Many countries had learned the hard way. You don't privatize water, health and the police. The moment there is an incentive to change the terms of these to increase profit, it does not end well.
Correction. Water has been privatized globally to a frightening extent and will continue to be the case. Police will be next. They also have been privatized in certain places and it will only get worse with the present attitude of profit driven corporate interests.
I have Leukemia. The life saving drug I need is called Sprycel and it cost $400 per pill. $12,000 per month. $144,000 per year. I am a walking dead man. Please remind me of the name of the fellow I am suppose to feel sorry for.
I just looked up how much this medication costs in Mexico. Same brand, 60 tablets, 50 mg, $60,000 pesos or ($3,000 dollars) with IVA (taxes) included. That's $50 a pill. And that's without any insurance. Incredible how medication is expensive in the US.
@@2009polostar Thanks for give my message more context. I'm required to take 100mg daily, but even if the Mexican price is double the mark up is incredible. Pure Deadly Greed and they still call John Q public's anger unreasonable.
Chemo wiped out my mouth and medicaid told me that getting my teeth taken out is a luxury cause it's cosmetic. So I'm stuck going to the E.R for infections I can't get treated cause I can't afford a dentist all cause I didn't want to die from Lymphoma 😭😭
There’s nothing wrong with people petitioning the government. Anytime you ask your city council, Congressmen or Senator for something you want, YOU ARE LOBBYING them! Omg! So bad! 😱
@@reason6835 there is a difference between a person or people petitioning government and large corporations employing well-connected people, with huge expense accounts, promising multi-million dollar political donations. Night and day difference. Corporate lobbyists and greedy politicians = corruption. In fact, it has gotten so bad that if a key politician turns down a corporate lobbyist, the corporations fund their political opponents in the primaries.
@@jtnt4279: People donate too. Sounds like you’re just against it when “corporations” are doing it. But they have the right to petition and donate too!
FINALLY the media is addressing the issue here. The past coverage I’ve seen has been so tone-deaf, especially when compared with what I see people saying on social media
Maggie, Insurance only works if the majority of people pay more than they get out of Insurance. With that being said I'm sure they could operate better and more fairly.
The product is the payments they make to pay your medical bills (if they’re upholding their end of the deal). UHC obviously doesn’t do this 32% of the time. But I’m very happy with my insurance provider.
@@BudFudlacker There is no product! An insured pays the insurance company. For what? For nothing. The product is the healthcare. The insurance doesn't provide healthcare.
@@reason6835 a payment isn't a product. The insurance company is a middle man with no product. The product is the healthcare, and the insurance company doesn't provide healthcare. The medical provider does.
@@maggiereeder7121: It IS a product. That’s precisely what they’re selling you. Money can be a product, my friend. That’s why people invest. Because it PRODUCES money. A product is anything that gets produced.
Do not privatize health, education, the military, prisons. Other countries have already learned this. You can still have a robust free market system, especially if you stop monopolies.
@@jimeagle5509 It's the government's job to regulate industry, especially if you pay for insurance and then get denied coverage because shareholders need more money
@@jimeagle5509: It IS the government’s job to promote the general welfare of its citizens. That doesn’t mean we have to have government run healthcare, but they need to do a better job ensuring their people get the care they need.
@@jimeagle5509 I am a Veteran, the government makes me healthy. everyone should be treated like Veterans, especially the children who suffer because of these horrible people
United Healthcare refused to cover my daughter's asthma medication she was 3-4 years old. I paid over $300 cash because she HAD to have it. When I watch the video of Brian Thompson strolling down the sidewalk in the moments prior to his death, seemingly without a care in the world, it just makes me sick. Denying life-saving medication for young children, just to line his pockets. The level of greed is absolutely disgusting. They also rejected my Epi-Pen!
I'm so glad I live in Canada, where we have public healthcare; I had a heart transplant 24 years ago...totally at no cost & free meds ever since. At the time of surgery, the doctors told me that because the cause of my heart failure was so rare, the operation wouldn't have been done in the Staes, given it would be considered 'experimental'. All these years later, I'm still teaching & contributing to society.
Wow - I'm old enough to remember the very first heart transplant at Papworth Hospital in the UK - science is amazing. Milking it for profit is so immoral.
My Doctors had MRI's that showed I had two pinched nerves in my lower back which they never revealed to me as I worked at jumping through the hoops for almost a year and a half. Excruciating pain that didn't allow me to stand even 5 minutes to do my dishes. I would lay on my floor and my dog would spread his body across me, seemingly aware of the level of agony I was experiencing. I even laid down in the Walmart floor the pain became so great. My insurance company had rigid steps I had to take that burned up 2700 dollars jumping through those hoops! Long enough that when the surgery was finally done I was able to get that surgery for free! The American people deserve health care that does not involve the profit centers of insurance companies to override our needs, resulting in suffering, permanent damage to our bodies, or possibly for some, even death before our doctors are allowed to give us the care we pay for monthly to these companies!!!!!! I am surprised there haven't been more acts of violence against such leaders.
Aetna rejected a claim for a mammogram. Reason: pre-existing condition. Yes, I had breasts before I went in for the mammogram. Insurance comps need to go back to what they were-not for profits.
@@RefreshingShamrock I’m not the OP, but Aetna has been my health insurance company for more than 10 years. In my experience, Aetna has been one of the better companies for approving mammogram claims so long as preventive care guidelines are met or the doctor recommends the mammogram and the test is performed in-network. They even cover ultrasound and “3D” which some companies won’t cover. Going out of network is where coverage gets tricky and likely very costly for the patient. In network providers agree to a fee schedule. Out of network providers don’t have agreements, will charge what they like, and will look to the patient to pay the difference. Another issue is preventive versus diagnostic screening. The ACA says annual mammograms are covered 100% when done in network usually starting at 35 to 40 years old. The gotcha is that once something is found, the mammogram is no longer considered preventative, but is then considered diagnostic. As you might guess, because we’re talking about the insurance industry, diagnostic tests are not covered 100%. They’re covered after the deductible is met and then often also include coinsurance. I wonder if the claim was truly rejected or if it fell into the category of feeling like it was rejected because it cost a lot more than expected. Splitting hairs, in a way.
Give MSNBC some credit for even discussing this. Usually, mainstream corporate owned media defends all corporate interests. They fight even the thought of reform or change.
Others won't even mention it. Fox, Ben Shapiro, Megyn Kelly are saying it's some kind of commie - leftist issue. They deny that Americans are suffering. Don't believe their spin on it.
Our Government allows Insurance companies to get away with it. Corporations, greed and political ambition are to blame. Americans are sick of the spin. Why do other democratic countries have healthcare for all but we can’t? Not true. It’s political ambition.
It’s just like Isreal complaining about needing more money from the United States,nothing but a bunch of pigs at a feeding trough that are never satisfied
Ever heard of Bernie Sanders and Katie Porter? They and many others over DECADES have conducted MANY Congressional hearings.and on it goes and goes. The next president has VOWED to GET RID OF the only progress to health insurance EVER LEGISLATED....the Affordable Care Act. Almost immediately upon passing the ACA, INSURANCE COMPANIES BEGAN FINDING WAYS TO BREAK THE LAW! NEXT YEAR WE WILL HAVE NO PROTECTION AGAINST INSURANCE SCAMS, OR ADEQUATE BENEFITS...AT ALL!
I'm watching this from Canada. A lot of people I know are cheering for this guy as we look with gaping mouths at the American "health" system. I have cancer. Had an operation, and twice a week I have a nurse come to change dressing and more if necessary. Don't pay for anything. Don't pay for my GP or countless blood, xrays, cat scans. Just pay for taxi fare. And then the world must endlessly hear Americans tell us that their country is the greatest in the world.
Me too! I had chemotherapy, and the cost of each dose was about $5000. In the USA, my family would have been bankrupt. Yes, I paid taxes, and a provincial healthcare premium of about $3k per year for our family, including dependent kids. But I had excellent care, and my only out of pocket cost was for some anti nausea meds.
I see some people cursing on those who calls for an universal healthcare on other channels bc it's 'socialism', and socialism is the worst. So life-saving 'socialism' is worse than fatal 'capitalism', and meanwhile this people also tell me to show some sympathy for the victim in the shooting. I don't think I will ever meet more hypocrite and more ideology-addicted people than some americans.
It is a full time job being sick in America. When a family has multiple sick members, there is barely time to hold down a part time job managing healthcare. I'm surprised it has taken this long for something like this to happen. Condolences for the family.
Every developed country on earth has a universal healthcare system except the United States!! Why is that? Other countries treat healthcare like a right of their citizens, not like a commodity that is bought and sold.
I am from Japan and live in Washington area. I still visit Japan to see my family. Many year ago my mother had to have a brain surgery that was dangerous, and it took 4 hours. But It was a successful operation. When it came to pay for everything from staying in a hospital, surgery itself, my mother asked me to go pay for the hospital stay.(about 2 weeks)I was stunned because the bill was $1,200! I remember saying to her that something is wrong with the bill. “Mother! I think they made a mistake. It should have one more zero at the end.” But it was right. The most western countries offer a health care to people in the country same as Japan. Why in the world the richest countries like America wouldn’t do that? It is the biggest puzzle of the century.
Nothing will get done regarding the insurance industry until their lobbyists stop "influencing" our lawmakers. Otherwise, what is the incentive for lawmakers to do anything that will help benefit their constituents? Healthcare and Education are two things that all citizens of every nation should have. It is not about any political spectrum, it is about decency and what citizens deserve from the taxes they pay.
As Citizen United enabled Billionaires & Corporations continue to gain more control over government, & as government represents the interests of citizens less, we shouldn’t be surprised to learn that desperate people will do desperate things to reverse the trend.
I had to become homeless to eventually get Medicare. I contracted cancer at age 60. So thank goodness that highly expensive episode was covered. I really feel for people. I got "lucky" only after having to suffer. God bless America 🇺🇸
I’m from Vermont and have been listening to Senator Bernie Sanders speak about this issue for years. He has always been for the people and as a healthcare provider, I have always agreed with him. We need one nonprofit healthcare plan for all.
UHC expects me as an underpaid employee to cough up $3,000 before they will cover me but hey all them years of unused benefits means some pig has been pocketing all that money,now how does UHC plan on paying me back on all tgat money?
I feel that the american people need to start messaging as many lawmakers as possible to let them know that we will not stand for being taken advantage of by all by corporations, and especially with our healthcare. We need to demand universal healthcare. Other countries make it work, why can't we?? The answer to that is of course money, its literally a legal crime what they are allowed to do to us.
The opportunity to do what you ask was in November. Unfortunately, I'm in Georgia and my U.S. House representative is MAGA. In the email newsletter I received from him last week he was actu a lly bragging about the Republicans implementing their plan to get rid of Obama care once Trump takes office. He was overwhelmingly reelected this past November. Politicians shouldn't have to be inundated with letters to know good vs evil or health vs sickness. But they've been bought and paid for to gaslight us to keep us from having good things.
Anyone eligible for Medicare should NEVER get a Medicare replacement plan. United Healthcare is one of the biggest in the Medicare replacement plan business. Get straight Medicare and a supplement. You'll get better healthcare.
It was my understanding that companies were beholden to their shareholders. Why are THESE insurance companies CEO’s making this kind of money? Maybe if they made a reasonable salary of a CEO, the company could have operated differently. Maybe even think of their customers more.
In regards to them saying that the other CEOs are going to hide their place of work is terrible. If you have to hide what you are doing for a living...maybe your job is not good.
For-profit healthcare is fundamentally at odds with the very essence of its purpose: providing care. When profit becomes the priority, the focus shifts from serving patients to serving shareholders. This creates a system where cutting costs, denying claims, and maximizing revenue often take precedence over delivering quality care. Healthcare should be about healing, not profiteering. Yet, in a for-profit model, the interests of patients and providers are routinely undermined, as corporations prioritize their bottom line over the well-being of those they claim to serve. This contradiction lies at the heart of why our healthcare system fails so many. Furthermore, Doctors in the U.S. are earning significantly less today than they did 20-30 years ago, even when adjusted for inflation. This decline is largely driven by insurance companies, which have slashed reimbursement rates while increasing administrative burdens. Despite rising healthcare costs, much of the revenue is absorbed by insurers and corporate entities, leaving physicians with shrinking salaries and less control over their profession. This trend not only devalues doctors’ work but also threatens the quality of patient care in the long run.
Way back in the day, the insurance people had to work extra hard to get people to sign up for insurance. Rightly so, some, a lot of people back then saw it as a scam, and so it was. And it still is. The only difference now is that the government forces us to get the insurance...
Physicians are now the middle man in this authoritarian construct of healthcare. And often little more than workers on an assembly line. Trained to do and offer more than they can reasonably deliver on the average work day. This is also a bad situation getting worse. 🍃✨
UHC is the worst insurance to have. I went an appt to pay my copay only as usual. They told me because I had "crappy" UHC I would have to pay up front, not just my copay. They said UHC denies claims and is a mess to deal with..I changed plans immediately through my employer.
The insurance industry in America is getting on the last nerves of Americans. We’re tired of our claims being denied, our polices being cancelled for no reason, and when a claim does get approve oh well here’s $5 for your fence.
The money you pay to the insurence, could be paid in tax and getting universal health care for everybody without deny and delay. That is how it works in Europe
Our trickle-down economic system has proven that a company cannot make a profit if they actually pay the cost of the health care of their customers. That is why virtually every other advanced country chooses to use government to administer health care. It is about values. What do you value more, money or people? If someone could make money ending poverty and homelessness, we would have no poverty or homelessness. The reason we do is because you can"t make money and we have a culture that values money over people. Greed and selfISHness over generosity and selfLESSness.
I've been fighting for over ten years for the medical intervention to help me walk. I can't get disability. I can't get pain relief. I lay in bed most of the time now.
Luigi's father was the person who ahd back cancer and this is why that X ray of his lower back on his person. United healthcare refused his treatment and Luigi's family had to do a crwd funding to pay for his medical and health bills . I can a understand why he did it and he is probably the only one with te brains brains and guts to carry it thru. Citizens need to squeeze their Congressman tight because they are supported by health care executives.
When will we come to understand that health insurance should not be for profit? Reminds one of the threats about Social Security running out of money when the government has been dipping into the fund for years.
My father just got charged a $500 co-payment from Kaiser Permanente...let that amount sink in, after knowing he spends $1,000 per month on their premium.
It's not just health insurance it's car it's apartment rent all these corporations .make it hard to survive rent goes up every year car insurance goes up every year .greed is big in america. and other countries are laughing at us.
I just started an insurance plan and making monthly payments!! Oh goodie, i get to deal with being denied when i need the plan i am paying for! Yeah!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
If you want to express your anger to Healthcare executive but can't get into their corporate headquarters, then go Vail or Aspen. You can have a personal conversation with the executive while sharing a chairlift ride to the top of the mountain.
Security detail would cost him about $1 million a year, which is a drop in the bucket compared to the money they make. It’s not going to affect them at all.
Excellent discussion about an intrinsic issue that affects most Americans. There are many components, one the money that influences lawmakers. Unchecked corporate & Wall Street profits. Some politicians don't like regulations, but restraint of breed & exploitatiobn are hallmarks of a genuine democratic government.
This is just another proof of how Insurance comes before medical care: THEY DECIDE--NOT THE DOCTOR. THIS IS THEIR SERVICE TO THE RICH AND WELL-CONNECTED.
If they stopped spending so much money on propaganda they would be able to pay for more care. People and companies feel that they are pouring money in a hole that only fills the pockets of the insurance companies.
Interesting what it took for this issue to actually get legitimate discussion. So how do we get lobbying, PACs, and other private interests some spotlight?
These CEOs better NOT to try to make Luigi pay as an example for all Americans. It can backfire on you, CEOs, and I don't think you want anything "firing" near you. You better behave and be VERY humble and less greedy. Just sayin...
This great country of ours will one day privatize the highway, drive thru, All education, search engines. No low for the rich that owned everything. That's why Luigi is a freaking hero.
The top 2 issues that need change in this country were addressed by this shooting. 1 Heath Insurance reform and not what the Republicans have in mind and 2 HELLO. GUN CONTROL. Why can u buy a 3D-printed gun that is untraceable? If you can not register 3D guns or kit guns,why the FUDGE are they legal? My prayers are for the children who lost their dad with this case. Even though I agree with massive change
Finally some decent reporting on the real issue and not the self-righteous blathering of Cumo and Banfield telling us how to feel and reprimanding us for how people feel. Boycott their channels.
RFK Jr. supports universal healthcare with private options. He has talked about the difficulty of getting universal healthcare passed. Ted Kennedy tried to get universal healthcare (RFK Jr. supported Ted and campaigned for him). The problem has been big businesses fighting against universal coverage, lobbyists affecting politicians, and the public being swayed with the fear tactics of big business. Obamacare, was a small step forward, but it was a small step. RFK Jr's goal is to solve part of our health through better regulation.
It's like this, guys: Luigi Mangione is a symptom, not a cause. He probably acted violently and publicly, as he did because of his OWN problems getting the coverage he needed. Moreover, bet he listened to endless stories of friends, loved ones, co-workers and comrades who paid monster fees for coverage they could in the end not use because after going for their lungs, so to say... they too were denied. Often on a whim, or a some boneheaded mis spelled AI caprice. I am not in favor of blowing away a CEO. But having been turned away myself from insurers paying for treatments (all of them quite minor)... I can totally relate. And now there has been this absolute TIDAL WAVE of 'me too stories", some of them incredibly tragic, where fellow citizens have actually died, after being told they do not qualify, or will not receive care, due solely to costs....Money is the bottom line. Hello? PATIENT CARE should be the bottom line. Hence, the rage...
Now we need a list of politicians who are receiving kickbacks from the healthcare insurance companies
Oh shut up!
Obama Care Failure. We need to pass it before we can read it, Pelosi.
@@keepingit8797 You know it's gonna be mostly Democrats, huh?
Ummm all of them?
so what you mean is you simply want a list of all politicisation.....
We need Medicare for all, but more than that, we need to get corporate money out of politics.
Yes! I second that!!
I third it
Good luck with that!
We need to stop the suits from practicing medicine without a license.
But the politicians love the money
Many countries had learned the hard way. You don't privatize water, health and the police. The moment there is an incentive to change the terms of these to increase profit, it does not end well.
Correction. Water has been privatized globally to a frightening extent and will continue to be the case. Police will be next. They also have been privatized in certain places and it will only get worse with the present attitude of profit driven corporate interests.
Also can't privatize education, highways, prisons. All that has to common out of the public purse.
@@chrislabonne1068 next time the air we breathe will be privatize. That's how the agent of Satan works..
We're all about to see if Americans have the stones to actually pursue reform privatized healthcare.
privatization of prison… Add that to the list🤦♀️
I have Leukemia. The life saving drug I need is called Sprycel and it cost $400 per pill. $12,000 per month. $144,000 per year. I am a walking dead man. Please remind me of the name of the fellow I am suppose to feel sorry for.
The sad part. Is they are so detached they probably think you could find a way to afford it or know someone with kind of money.
I just looked up how much this medication costs in Mexico. Same brand, 60 tablets, 50 mg, $60,000 pesos or ($3,000 dollars) with IVA (taxes) included. That's $50 a pill. And that's without any insurance. Incredible how medication is expensive in the US.
@@2009polostar Thanks for give my message more context. I'm required to take 100mg daily, but even if the Mexican price is double the mark up is incredible. Pure Deadly Greed and they still call John Q public's anger unreasonable.
I'm so sorry this is happening to you. Leukemia really takes the soul out of a person. This system needs to be changed. Millions of people are dying
Chemo wiped out my mouth and medicaid told me that getting my teeth taken out is a luxury cause it's cosmetic. So I'm stuck going to the E.R for infections I can't get treated cause I can't afford a dentist all cause I didn't want to die from Lymphoma 😭😭
Corporate Greed on every level.
Politicians greed
Side note: in every other country on the planet what we call lobbyists are known as corruption.
There’s nothing wrong with people petitioning the government. Anytime you ask your city council, Congressmen or Senator for something you want, YOU ARE LOBBYING them!
Omg! So bad! 😱
@@reason6835 there is a difference between a person or people petitioning government and large corporations employing well-connected people, with huge expense accounts, promising multi-million dollar political donations. Night and day difference. Corporate lobbyists and greedy politicians = corruption. In fact, it has gotten so bad that if a key politician turns down a corporate lobbyist, the corporations fund their political opponents in the primaries.
@@jtnt4279: People donate too. Sounds like you’re just against it when “corporations” are doing it. But they have the right to petition and donate too!
@@reason6835so corporations are people ? Let’s charge them for all the crimes they get away with than
Yup... it's normally called bribery
We need the list of politicians that take money from the insurance companies.
Are you prepared for how long a list that will be?
@@chrislabonne1068at least we will know. That’s a first good step towards a better future and smarter voting.
A shorter list would be the one or two not taking money from the corporate overlords
FINALLY the media is addressing the issue here.
The past coverage I’ve seen has been so tone-deaf, especially when compared with what I see people saying on social media
Insurance is a racket. There is NO product.
Maggie, Insurance only works if the majority of people pay more than they get out of Insurance. With that being said I'm sure they could operate better and more fairly.
The product is the payments they make to pay your medical bills (if they’re upholding their end of the deal). UHC obviously doesn’t do this 32% of the time. But I’m very happy with my insurance provider.
@@BudFudlacker There is no product! An insured pays the insurance company. For what? For nothing. The product is the healthcare. The insurance doesn't provide healthcare.
@@reason6835 a payment isn't a product. The insurance company is a middle man with no product. The product is the healthcare, and the insurance company doesn't provide healthcare. The medical provider does.
@@maggiereeder7121: It IS a product. That’s precisely what they’re selling you. Money can be a product, my friend. That’s why people invest. Because it PRODUCES money. A product is anything that gets produced.
Do not privatize health, education, the military, prisons. Other countries have already learned this. You can still have a robust free market system, especially if you stop monopolies.
It's the WORST NIGHTMARE of both GOP and Dem elected reps/senators for the PEOPLE to start demanding sane, humane, economically efficient healthcare.
It's not the government's job to make you healthy.
@@jimeagle5509 It's the government's job to regulate industry, especially if you pay for insurance and then get denied coverage because shareholders need more money
@@jimeagle5509: It IS the government’s job to promote the general welfare of its citizens. That doesn’t mean we have to have government run healthcare, but they need to do a better job ensuring their people get the care they need.
@@jimeagle5509 I am a Veteran, the government makes me healthy. everyone should be treated like Veterans, especially the children who suffer because of these horrible people
You worry too much. Your party squeezed 100’s of thousands … millions actually….of illegal immigrants to expect American people should pay for that.
United Healthcare refused to cover my daughter's asthma medication she was 3-4 years old. I paid over $300 cash because she HAD to have it.
When I watch the video of Brian Thompson strolling down the sidewalk in the moments prior to his death, seemingly without a care in the world, it just makes me sick. Denying life-saving medication for young children, just to line his pockets. The level of greed is absolutely disgusting.
They also rejected my Epi-Pen!
I'm so glad I live in Canada, where we have public healthcare; I had a heart transplant 24 years ago...totally at no cost & free meds ever since. At the time of surgery, the doctors told me that because the cause of my heart failure was so rare, the operation wouldn't have been done in the Staes, given it would be considered 'experimental'. All these years later, I'm still teaching & contributing to society.
Prayers to u and so glad you were able to have the surgery ❤
Wow - I'm old enough to remember the very first heart transplant at Papworth Hospital in the UK - science is amazing. Milking it for profit is so immoral.
Im very thankful to the deities that I was born in Australia 🦘
Corporate media needs to be asked why this issue was never brought up in the election just held????
I stand by MSNBC and the corporate media! You are here to watch the corporate media too!
It was an issue in the 2008 campaign. Dems said they’d take of it.
Investigative journalism. Ask Propublica how it's done.
Money
That’s what I want to know. It feels like Trump was installed by the corporations precisely to keep Wall Street in business.
My Doctors had MRI's that showed I had two pinched nerves in my lower back which they never revealed to me as I worked at jumping through the hoops for almost a year and a half. Excruciating pain that didn't allow me to stand even 5 minutes to do my dishes. I would lay on my floor and my dog would spread his body across me, seemingly aware of the level of agony I was experiencing. I even laid down in the Walmart floor the pain became so great. My insurance company had rigid steps I had to take that burned up 2700 dollars jumping through those hoops! Long enough that when the surgery was finally done I was able to get that surgery for free! The American people deserve health care that does not involve the profit centers of insurance companies to override our needs, resulting in suffering, permanent damage to our bodies, or possibly for some, even death before our doctors are allowed to give us the care we pay for monthly to these companies!!!!!! I am surprised there haven't been more acts of violence against such leaders.
Of course this will change the industry. They will deny more claims to pay for the increased security they give to their executives.
Idk, look how many people are mad….im not sure I’ve ever seen anything like it
Those execs got extended family. Can they protect them all?
Not sure security would stop a determined person...
Aetna rejected a claim for a mammogram. Reason: pre-existing condition. Yes, I had breasts before I went in for the mammogram. Insurance comps need to go back to what they were-not for profits.
They rejected you for a mammogram???
@@RefreshingShamrock I’m not the OP, but Aetna has been my health insurance company for more than 10 years. In my experience, Aetna has been one of the better companies for approving mammogram claims so long as preventive care guidelines are met or the doctor recommends the mammogram and the test is performed in-network. They even cover ultrasound and “3D” which some companies won’t cover. Going out of network is where coverage gets tricky and likely very costly for the patient. In network providers agree to a fee schedule. Out of network providers don’t have agreements, will charge what they like, and will look to the patient to pay the difference. Another issue is preventive versus diagnostic screening. The ACA says annual mammograms are covered 100% when done in network usually starting at 35 to 40 years old. The gotcha is that once something is found, the mammogram is no longer considered preventative, but is then considered diagnostic. As you might guess, because we’re talking about the insurance industry, diagnostic tests are not covered 100%. They’re covered after the deductible is met and then often also include coinsurance. I wonder if the claim was truly rejected or if it fell into the category of feeling like it was rejected because it cost a lot more than expected. Splitting hairs, in a way.
Must've been before Obamacare. Under the ACA preventive care must be covered, in fact mammograms are free.
You should change providers
it is simple, outrage about systemic corruption and greed. people are fed up.
Give MSNBC some credit for even discussing this. Usually, mainstream corporate owned media defends all corporate interests. They fight even the thought of reform or change.
Betting it'll last about another week.
Others won't even mention it. Fox, Ben Shapiro, Megyn Kelly are saying it's some kind of commie - leftist issue. They deny that Americans are suffering. Don't believe their spin on it.
Get private business insurance out of our health care.
Medicare for all. 🎉
Our Government allows Insurance companies to get away with it. Corporations, greed and political ambition are to blame. Americans are sick of the spin. Why do other democratic countries have healthcare for all but we can’t? Not true. It’s political ambition.
It’s just like Isreal complaining about needing more money from the United States,nothing but a bunch of pigs at a feeding trough that are never satisfied
The greed and lack of empathy of the insurance companies is mind boggling! Congressional hearings are in order….
Ever heard of Bernie Sanders and Katie Porter? They and many others over DECADES have conducted MANY Congressional hearings.and on it goes and goes. The next president has VOWED to GET RID OF the only progress to health insurance EVER LEGISLATED....the Affordable Care Act. Almost immediately upon passing the ACA, INSURANCE COMPANIES BEGAN FINDING WAYS TO BREAK THE LAW! NEXT YEAR WE WILL HAVE NO PROTECTION AGAINST INSURANCE SCAMS, OR ADEQUATE BENEFITS...AT ALL!
Bennefyyt logistics settled their corruption scandal in a civil court and were fined millions. They are all corrupt
I'm watching this from Canada. A lot of people I know are cheering for this guy as we look with gaping mouths at the American "health" system. I have cancer. Had an operation, and twice a week I have a nurse come to change dressing and more if necessary. Don't pay for anything. Don't pay for my GP or countless blood, xrays, cat scans. Just pay for taxi fare.
And then the world must endlessly hear Americans tell us that their country is the greatest in the world.
Me too! I had chemotherapy, and the cost of each dose was about $5000. In the USA, my family would have been bankrupt. Yes, I paid taxes, and a provincial healthcare premium of about $3k per year for our family, including dependent kids. But I had excellent care, and my only out of pocket cost was for some anti nausea meds.
Bless you. Am sending prayers and good vibes 💙🙏💙
@@katharinemichie2178sending good vibes
I see some people cursing on those who calls for an universal healthcare on other channels bc it's 'socialism', and socialism is the worst.
So life-saving 'socialism' is worse than fatal 'capitalism', and meanwhile this people also tell me to show some sympathy for the victim in the shooting.
I don't think I will ever meet more hypocrite and more ideology-addicted people than some americans.
We spent all that money on f35$
It is a full time job being sick in America. When a family has multiple sick members, there is barely time to hold down a part time job managing healthcare. I'm surprised it has taken this long for something like this to happen. Condolences for the family.
Glad someone is reporting on the real crime.
Crimes* there's cemeteries full by Health insurance denials
The United States of Greed.
Every developed country on earth has a universal healthcare system except the United States!! Why is that? Other countries treat healthcare like a right of their citizens, not like a commodity that is bought and sold.
Too many American psychoes
I hope he goes free.
I am from Japan and live in Washington area. I still visit Japan to see my family. Many year ago my mother had to have a brain surgery that was dangerous, and it took 4 hours. But It was a successful operation. When it came to pay for everything from staying in a hospital, surgery itself, my mother asked me to go pay for the hospital stay.(about 2 weeks)I was stunned because the bill was $1,200! I remember saying to her that something is wrong with the bill. “Mother! I think they made a mistake. It should have one more zero at the end.” But it was right.
The most western countries offer a health care to people in the country same as Japan. Why in the world the richest countries like America wouldn’t do that? It is the biggest puzzle of the century.
No. Its the crime of the century.
Nothing will get done regarding the insurance industry until their lobbyists stop "influencing" our lawmakers. Otherwise, what is the incentive for lawmakers to do anything that will help benefit their constituents? Healthcare and Education are two things that all citizens of every nation should have. It is not about any political spectrum, it is about decency and what citizens deserve from the taxes they pay.
As Citizen United enabled Billionaires & Corporations continue to gain more control over government, & as government represents the interests of citizens less, we shouldn’t be surprised to learn that desperate people will do desperate things to reverse the trend.
I had to become homeless to eventually get Medicare. I contracted cancer at age 60. So thank goodness that highly expensive episode was covered.
I really feel for people. I got "lucky" only after having to suffer.
God bless America 🇺🇸
Its just not health care insurance its all insurance
If someone gave you $400 a month and then $5000 down for you to render a service, and then you said no but kept the money. You'd get shot, too.
I’m from Vermont and have been listening to Senator Bernie Sanders speak about this issue for years. He has always been for the people and as a healthcare provider, I have always agreed with him. We need one nonprofit healthcare plan for all.
The United Nations should look into these human rights abuses in the US.
National Health Care Plan For Americans
Yeah its working great in Canada
Not gonna get that with Trump.
THANK YOU FOR THIS COMMENTARY. FINALLY SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT THE CRUX OF THE ISSUE.
Imagine getting back all the wasted hours back spent on hold with insurance companies.
Luigi‘s anger is justified. I pray he gets the best attorneys and found not guilty. The real murderer was Brian and he’s gone🙄
UHC expects me as an underpaid employee to cough up $3,000 before they will cover me but hey all them years of unused benefits means some pig has been pocketing all that money,now how does UHC plan on paying me back on all tgat money?
The USA has a lot to learn from Canada and Europe. The health care companies and their executives in this country are so soulless, so empty.
The investor meeting Thompson was supposed to attend went on as scheduled. Just a reminder of what really motivates these people.
I feel that the american people need to start messaging as many lawmakers as possible to let them know that we will not stand for being taken advantage of by all by corporations, and especially with our healthcare. We need to demand universal healthcare. Other countries make it work, why can't we?? The answer to that is of course money, its literally a legal crime what they are allowed to do to us.
The opportunity to do what you ask was in November. Unfortunately, I'm in Georgia and my U.S. House representative is MAGA. In the email newsletter I received from him last week he was actu a lly bragging about the Republicans implementing their plan to get rid of Obama care once Trump takes office. He was overwhelmingly reelected this past November. Politicians shouldn't have to be inundated with letters to know good vs evil or health vs sickness. But they've been bought and paid for to gaslight us to keep us from having good things.
We need additional choices in our elections so we are not limited to just 2 parties. Dems and Republicans are both self serving.
In the name of greed, all corporate CEOs are winners.
Especially GOP, they need to hear that it's a concern of the American people. Write, spam, and have them hear it. No one should die.
These CEO of insurance companies better do better or this might happen again. People are feed up with insurance companies
People are simply fed up with corporate America & AIPAC
"...these companies spend enormous amounts of money to influence how these politicians think and vote." They're called bribes, my dude.
There is inherent conflict of interest in making healthcare a for profit industry.
It’s an invention brought to you by the same exact people that has brought illegal diversity to this country
Anyone eligible for Medicare should NEVER get a Medicare replacement plan. United Healthcare is one of the biggest in the Medicare replacement plan business. Get straight Medicare and a supplement. You'll get better healthcare.
It was my understanding that companies were beholden to their shareholders. Why are THESE insurance companies
CEO’s making this kind of money? Maybe if they made a reasonable salary of a CEO, the company could have operated differently. Maybe even think of their customers more.
A portion for the shareholders, a portion for the CEOs and nothing for the insured.
In regards to them saying that the other CEOs are going to hide their place of work is terrible. If you have to hide what you are doing for a living...maybe your job is not good.
GO - FUND ME for Mangione. HERO.
For-profit healthcare is fundamentally at odds with the very essence of its purpose: providing care. When profit becomes the priority, the focus shifts from serving patients to serving shareholders. This creates a system where cutting costs, denying claims, and maximizing revenue often take precedence over delivering quality care.
Healthcare should be about healing, not profiteering. Yet, in a for-profit model, the interests of patients and providers are routinely undermined, as corporations prioritize their bottom line over the well-being of those they claim to serve. This contradiction lies at the heart of why our healthcare system fails so many.
Furthermore, Doctors in the U.S. are earning significantly less today than they did 20-30 years ago, even when adjusted for inflation. This decline is largely driven by insurance companies, which have slashed reimbursement rates while increasing administrative burdens. Despite rising healthcare costs, much of the revenue is absorbed by insurers and corporate entities, leaving physicians with shrinking salaries and less control over their profession. This trend not only devalues doctors’ work but also threatens the quality of patient care in the long run.
And yet the people voted for the pro insurance party in the Senate, House, and oval office.
The reason this CEO got shot is they are both pro insurance parties, wake up
Way back in the day, the insurance people had to work extra hard to get people to sign up for insurance. Rightly so, some, a lot of people back then saw it as a scam, and so it was. And it still is. The only difference now is that the government forces us to get the insurance...
The politicians and the health insurance companies are corrupt.
Physicians are now the middle man in this authoritarian construct of healthcare. And often little more than workers on an assembly line. Trained to do and offer more than they can reasonably deliver on the average work day. This is also a bad situation getting worse. 🍃✨
UHC is the worst insurance to have. I went an appt to pay my copay only as usual. They told me because I had "crappy" UHC I would have to pay up front, not just my copay. They said UHC denies claims and is a mess to deal with..I changed plans immediately through my employer.
The insurance industry in America is getting on the last nerves of Americans. We’re tired of our claims being denied, our polices being cancelled for no reason, and when a claim does get approve oh well here’s $5 for your fence.
The money you pay to the insurence, could be paid in tax and getting universal health care for everybody without deny and delay. That is how it works in Europe
the only it would be a lot less in tax, than for these serial killers from insurance cartels
Will this be a wakeup call for CEOS🤔?
Change is not possible in a for profit model. Reform is meaningless, reforms will be a brief bandaid.
So doctors and nurses shouldn’t make money?
Our trickle-down economic system has proven that a company cannot make a profit if they actually pay the cost of the health care of their customers. That is why virtually every other advanced country chooses to use government to administer health care. It is about values. What do you value more, money or people? If someone could make money ending poverty and homelessness, we would have no poverty or homelessness. The reason we do is because you can"t make money and we have a culture that values money over people. Greed and selfISHness over generosity and selfLESSness.
I've been fighting for over ten years for the medical intervention to help me walk. I can't get disability. I can't get pain relief. I lay in bed most of the time now.
Luigi's father was the person who ahd back cancer and this is why that X ray of his lower back on his person. United healthcare refused his treatment and Luigi's family had to do a crwd funding to pay for his medical and health bills . I can a understand why he did it and he is probably the only one with te brains brains and guts to carry it thru. Citizens need to squeeze their Congressman tight because they are supported by health care executives.
Luigi’s going to prison ❤
to heck with “luigi”
long live the CEO’s!
Luigi is toast
lol the kid is richer than the CEO
@@Cameron-Is-Right Not if a jury refuses to convict him.
Our Government won’t do ANYTHING! These corporations have both sides on the payroll. 💰
When will we come to understand that health insurance should not be for profit? Reminds one of the threats about Social Security running out of money when the government has been dipping into the fund for years.
Remember, January is when deductible start. Sooo delay all medical procedure until january ... best regard, Brian Thompson
My father just got charged a $500 co-payment from Kaiser Permanente...let that amount sink in, after knowing he spends $1,000 per month on their premium.
It's not just health insurance it's car it's apartment rent all these corporations .make it hard to survive rent goes up every year car insurance goes up every year .greed is big in america. and other countries are laughing at us.
DENY. DELAY. DEPOSE. JUSTIFIED
LOTS OF PEOPLE knew who this guy was, and never said a word, (as far as we know)
Lots of people have lauded this young man for what he has done!
I just started an insurance plan and making monthly payments!! Oh goodie, i get to deal with being denied when i need the plan i am paying for! Yeah!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Biden should pardon the suspect.
If you want to express your anger to Healthcare executive but can't get into their corporate headquarters, then go Vail or Aspen. You can have a personal conversation with the executive while sharing a chairlift ride to the top of the mountain.
Lol, fr.
The crazy part is some guy or gal on Medicare is the one who ratted him out at a McDonald's
And will not receive any award money
Crimes against humanity
Security detail would cost him about $1 million a year, which is a drop in the bucket compared to the money they make. It’s not going to affect them at all.
Excellent discussion about an intrinsic issue that affects most Americans. There are many components, one the money that influences lawmakers. Unchecked corporate & Wall Street profits. Some politicians don't like regulations, but restraint of breed & exploitatiobn are hallmarks of a genuine democratic government.
To thomson family, sorry... Led is a pre-condition.
Claim denied.
Sorry for any inconvenience.
Why would any politicians fight for us? Look at the huge amounts of money they get from healthcare companies, BOTH parties
This is just another proof of how Insurance comes before medical care: THEY DECIDE--NOT THE DOCTOR. THIS IS THEIR SERVICE TO THE RICH AND WELL-CONNECTED.
If they stopped spending so much money on propaganda they would be able to pay for more care. People and companies feel that they are pouring money in a hole that only fills the pockets of the insurance companies.
Interesting what it took for this issue to actually get legitimate discussion. So how do we get lobbying, PACs, and other private interests some spotlight?
First, you'll need to repeal legislation that allows corporate donations to politicians. It can be done, but it requires a strong political will
“Maybe even dying because of this” literally everyone you’re seeing on tv talking about this is out of touch with reality.
America is sick.
Healthcare is a right. We are supposed to be the greatest country on earth!
in what US' "the greatest?? In genociding 59 millions people and stealing their continent??
You guys have no idea! Millionaire pundits shaming the public is amazing!!!
These CEOs better NOT to try to make Luigi pay as an example for all Americans. It can backfire on you, CEOs, and I don't think you want anything "firing" near you. You better behave and be VERY humble and less greedy. Just sayin...
Don't forget the people buying all the homes and building fake cheap expensive rentals.
This great country of ours will one day privatize the highway, drive thru, All education, search engines. No low for the rich that owned everything. That's why Luigi is a freaking hero.
The top 2 issues that need change in this country were addressed by this shooting. 1 Heath Insurance reform and not what the Republicans have in mind and 2 HELLO. GUN CONTROL. Why can u buy a 3D-printed gun that is untraceable? If you can not register 3D guns or kit guns,why the FUDGE are they legal? My prayers are for the children who lost their dad with this case. Even though I agree with massive change
The world needs to know!!!!!!!!
Imagine if the jury find him Not Guilty.
They will otherwise.....
Finally some decent reporting on the real issue and not the self-righteous blathering of Cumo and Banfield telling us how to feel and reprimanding us for how people feel. Boycott their channels.
Don't call the ambulance if you haven't paid the latest insurence bill
NEXT IN LINE TO BE EDUCATE IS HOME 🏠 AND 🚗 CARS 🚙 INSURANCE CORPORATIONS, THOSE CR00KS TH3FTS NEED TO LEARN TO BE HONEST, 😡
Public health service like in Europe needed 🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺
Insurance is pure racketeering now. America is awake on both sides. It's not a wing, it's the body
RFK Jr. supports universal healthcare with private options. He has talked about the difficulty of getting universal healthcare passed. Ted Kennedy tried to get universal healthcare (RFK Jr. supported Ted and campaigned for him). The problem has been big businesses fighting against universal coverage, lobbyists affecting politicians, and the public being swayed with the fear tactics of big business. Obamacare, was a small step forward, but it was a small step. RFK Jr's goal is to solve part of our health through better regulation.
It's like this, guys: Luigi Mangione is a symptom, not a cause. He probably acted violently and publicly, as he did because of his OWN problems getting the coverage he needed. Moreover, bet he listened to endless stories of friends, loved ones, co-workers and comrades who paid monster fees for coverage they could in the end not use because after going for their lungs, so to say... they too were denied. Often on a whim, or a some boneheaded mis spelled AI caprice. I am not in favor of blowing away a CEO. But having been turned away myself from insurers paying for treatments (all of them quite minor)... I can totally relate. And now there has been this absolute TIDAL WAVE of 'me too stories", some of them incredibly tragic, where fellow citizens have actually died, after being told they do not qualify, or will not receive care, due solely to costs....Money is the bottom line. Hello? PATIENT CARE should be the bottom line. Hence, the rage...
I’m eating some spaghetti 🍝 in honor ⭐️ of Luigi.