This is how you fly in Battlefield 4

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  • Опубликовано: 14 янв 2025

Комментарии • 365

  • @stevenseagal4987
    @stevenseagal4987 4 года назад +374

    So this is the nerd that’s clapping my cheeks when I’m just trying to be an infantryman

  • @cosairfps
    @cosairfps 4 года назад +311

    Playing as a team in the heli is probably the most fun that can be had in BF4! Well worth trying out with friends :)

    • @IllllllIIIIIIIIlllllll
      @IllllllIIIIIIIIlllllll 4 года назад +4

      It's an honor being farmed by you in E4GL hahahahaha

    • @kaolee3270
      @kaolee3270 4 года назад +3

      You are a true pilot bro. I see all these other so call pilots never fly outside of Shanghai.😑

    • @charlieallen6120
      @charlieallen6120 4 года назад

      Truly impressive flying, Corsair, and great gunning as well, AKA! This was a great watch!

    • @digital107-_-
      @digital107-_- 4 года назад +1

      I would but none of my friends can fly a helicopter.

    • @KasperDC_MW
      @KasperDC_MW 4 года назад +1

      Yes i would like to report a case of agressive farming

  • @jona_886
    @jona_886 4 года назад +138

    12:35 You just killed COVID-19. With a TV missile.

  • @skylosfoxtrot2350
    @skylosfoxtrot2350 4 года назад +71

    I remember being annoying in battlefield 3, good times. Non-stop support for infantry and armor. Plus orbiting is the most op thing ever. Though I miss my gunner.
    Hope you are doing good Russell, the best copilot I've ever had.

    • @sisamusudroka3000
      @sisamusudroka3000 4 года назад +38

      F for all the great teammates we played with but lost contact with over the years

    • @100GTAGUY
      @100GTAGUY 4 года назад +1

      @@sisamusudroka3000 I feel bad, I haven't played with some of my BF2 buddies in almost two years now. Just the four of us would wreck a team of twelve a lot of times lol. Its amazing what you can do with communicating and strategy.

  • @RouletteRider
    @RouletteRider 4 года назад +32

    0:35 this dude really got taken out by a TV missile while parachuting...
    Oof Meter: *MAX CAPACITY*

  • @alkis5307
    @alkis5307 4 года назад +55

    imagine how annoying it would be playing against these guys

    • @AmazingMojo2567
      @AmazingMojo2567 4 года назад +4

      @Irving Ceron until lock on are banned in the server

    • @inbaconwetrust4519
      @inbaconwetrust4519 4 года назад +6

      Not for me, I specialise in Anti Air. 30mm cannons, autolock missile, Zoom, Active protection and then i place a trophy system and flares down. Locate myself in a covered spot between the centre of map and deployment to use the base AA cannon spotter when things get hot.

    • @inbaconwetrust4519
      @inbaconwetrust4519 4 года назад

      @Irving Ceron engineer with repair tool works as well however since the vehicle repairs itself. The trophy system along with active protection acts as a constant recharged shield.

    • @RogerNbr
      @RogerNbr 3 года назад +3

      @@inbaconwetrust4519 never seen anyone use that with an AA gun specially
      what are the flares for? won't they just draw attention to your position?

    • @holeindanssock156
      @holeindanssock156 2 года назад

      @@RogerNbr flares blind infared chopper scopes and just blinds enemies in general

  • @nicolaspangalos7642
    @nicolaspangalos7642 4 года назад +2

    At 6:56 you can see the chat box in the top left of the screen and the enemy player is so mad that he said “VIPER FUCK YOU HACKER”😂😂😂

  • @grosslyincandescentgaming5130
    @grosslyincandescentgaming5130 4 года назад +1

    The first half is you talking about technical stuff and how successful you can be. But then the 2nd half is you and you're friend panicking about everything. I love it.

  • @xtod9892
    @xtod9892 4 года назад +4

    Reminds me of the bf3 days when me and a dude from my clan would play like this with the attack heli... Was awesome!
    One game which I remember was god tier was when we were waiting for the Heli to spawn after someone got lucky with an RPG... Both the enemy jets came to attack us in spawn while we waiting for the next chopper... We simultaneously took them both down with an RPG each!

  • @john_808_za9
    @john_808_za9 4 года назад +34

    Cosair is your dream pilot xD

  • @justin-os4xp
    @justin-os4xp 4 года назад +6

    I mustve encountered you before when i used to play bf4. I remember one match just getting absolutely destroyed by the helicopter the whole game. It was unfair lol.

  • @boogerCPT
    @boogerCPT 4 года назад +12

    I miss this game sooo much...havnt played since lockdown started here! Love from South Africa

    • @tavim5481
      @tavim5481 4 года назад +1

      seems to be a pretty big south african bf4 community, i only see US, Brazil, Germany, and South African servers. interesting

  • @GhostGamingg
    @GhostGamingg 4 года назад +13

    Nothing like a fantastic duo in an Attack Heli on BF4! Absolute Domination.

  • @ErikAdalbertvanNagel
    @ErikAdalbertvanNagel 4 года назад +6

    0:34 RIP, I felt bad for him it was brutal

    • @RamRam-jp2kc
      @RamRam-jp2kc 4 года назад +1

      I have been there, it sucks. U got dominated totally, after that i just jump till its last sec and then release chute.

  • @Edwardmadethis
    @Edwardmadethis 4 года назад +1

    I loved using the fire extinguisher in the Scout Helo. Tied with the fast reload perk the cool down on fire extinguisher went from 16.2 seconds to 8.1 seconds. Making the Scout Helo harder to knock out as long as the pilot is breaking lock-ons often and flying low.

  • @thomaswilliamson625
    @thomaswilliamson625 4 года назад +3

    When ever my team can’t kill an AH I camp IGLA. If a server says “no IGLA” I make sure to get permed.

  • @BiggDx
    @BiggDx 4 года назад +2

    I like running attack heli in hardcore personally because I feel like going third person not only breaks immersion but makes the game a lot easier.

  • @IKightTrooperI
    @IKightTrooperI 4 года назад +31

    If DICE claims to want fast-paced gameplay for BF6, they really need to remove the animations for getting in/out of vehicles and changing seats. At the very least they could speed them up because in BF1 and BFV it is just... So. Damn. Slow.

  • @TheBarez91
    @TheBarez91 4 года назад +2

    What an amazing video
    I just love the classic AKA art chopper and raw TANK game play on BF4 please make more videos like this it brings back so much nostalgia great job.

  • @ChillinWithBrody
    @ChillinWithBrody 4 года назад +15

    Love this channel bro. Battlefield is my all time favorite game. BF3 was the best but I still love BF4. Not happy with anything after that but really hoping they redeem themselves with BF6. Let's all hope. I've been playing BF3 with some friends lately and still have a ton of fun.

    • @LasooRagheed
      @LasooRagheed 4 года назад +3

      Battlefield 1 was a masterpiece. Battlefield 5 was Alright but overall trash compared to other Battlefields. BF6 will be the best one so far in my opinion.

    • @Hans_Lex
      @Hans_Lex 4 года назад +2

      @@LasooRagheed lol idk about that prediction. Nobody who created the amazing BF3 and the pretty good BF4 still works for dice.

    • @yohanbeck8172
      @yohanbeck8172 4 года назад +1

      You are speaking on my behalf!

    • @Navhkrin
      @Navhkrin 4 года назад +1

      @@LasooRagheed Agreed. I enjoyed BF1 alot. I think BF6 will be good because they are taking their time with it

  • @Kelynch-09
    @Kelynch-09 4 года назад +2

    12:35 You killed the virus!!!!! Hail AKA-ART!!!

  • @saimonldable
    @saimonldable 4 года назад +5

    One try one of those moves and next thing you see it is the floor. Amazing skills

  • @Azrael_wings
    @Azrael_wings 4 года назад +38

    This is battlefield, this is what we all loved to play, we have spended hours and hours to reach a high level. On this trash that they calling bf5 there is no skill there is noting. A trash game for sure

    • @Thawhid
      @Thawhid 4 года назад +13

      The decline of my love for battlefield started at bf1.
      I started by playing bad company 2 at a young age > bf3 > bf4... Those games were 10/10s I swear. I enjoyed bf1 for the first few months but something about historic themed warfare put me off, I prefer modern shi.
      Ive switched to Rainbow six siege, I've tried bf5, I enjoyed the beta but I don't plan on ever buying it.
      R6 is as tactical as ever when it comes to fps, so it was a pleasing transition from bf to r6. I've started to play bf4 again I missed the large scale combat.... I hope the next installment is decent or else icba

    • @dillondraper467
      @dillondraper467 4 года назад +1

      Preach

    • @pummelu3423
      @pummelu3423 4 года назад

      I bet you haven’t even played it

    • @Azrael_wings
      @Azrael_wings 4 года назад +5

      @@pummelu3423 o yes I played it a lot that's why i have my opinion about this thrash bf5.

    • @SoftyWalterGames
      @SoftyWalterGames 4 года назад +1

      @@Thawhid rainbow 6 has gone downhill youve started when the game is at its worst

  • @moazzamfarhan2206
    @moazzamfarhan2206 4 года назад

    I used to play bf4 infantry only back in 2017/18 (lost of locker and metro) but I always had an appreciation for vehicles. I love watching your videos because its just fun to watch, you commentate on other players videos and in your own gameplay vids you talk about what you are doing, your thoughts and make it interesting. Hoping the next bf is along the same lines as bf4/3 and would love to watch more of your content. Really makes me wanna re-download bf4 hahaha. ♥

  • @satoriwabisabi
    @satoriwabisabi 4 года назад +1

    3:35 cosair is such beast pilot!

  • @I.Fumblebee.I
    @I.Fumblebee.I 4 года назад +4

    For me I don't like bf5/bf1 vehicle gameplay is because there just arent enough vehicles to fight. When I'm in the LAV I take on jets, helis, tanks, AAs and jeeps
    when I'm in a tank on bf1 I kill the other tank and now I have to wait 5 minutes before another one spawns on their team. Fun.

  • @BigE1293
    @BigE1293 4 года назад +2

    17:35 a bit over the top there boys

  • @mr.shazam2739
    @mr.shazam2739 4 года назад

    6:45 ingame chat loves you

  • @dpreston8831
    @dpreston8831 4 года назад

    I was an amazing little bird pilot on bf4. Used to do insertions on points and help from above. If you can fly lower in beginning and to a further point it helps the game.

  • @bestgem
    @bestgem 4 года назад

    Amazing editing! I loved the transition into the next clip along with the changing perspective! Just absolutely beautiful! ❤️

  • @BecomeStemceldonor
    @BecomeStemceldonor 4 года назад +2

    6:41 check the chat hahahahah

  • @natusMCMII
    @natusMCMII 7 месяцев назад

    I'm more than happy if I manage to hit another heli with my attack heli TOW missile, hitting a laterally moving jet is crazy.
    I'm also more of a gunner and not bad at it, but you guys as a duo are on another level, props to you!

  • @nicolarighetto3767
    @nicolarighetto3767 Год назад +1

    Unpopular opinion: This is the only kind of thing i would kick people for, and i'm a jet/helicopter pilot and fan myself, two people in this veichle can shift the balance of the game by themselves

  • @felipeedu7980
    @felipeedu7980 4 года назад

    He is not just a pilot, he is one of the craziest zouzou jumpers i have ever seen

  • @oukn6293
    @oukn6293 4 года назад +4

    That's op the trees and wall do no damage.

  • @JoeShmoe376
    @JoeShmoe376 4 года назад +5

    Recently played a rush match in Battlefield 3 against a couple of sweaty tryhards who were pretty much just farming kills effortlessly while their gunner just casually shot down every single chopper we tried to bring up against them with TV missiles, from very long range mind you. It was pretty aggravating to watch their kill counters reach 3 digits knowing they were the sole reason we lost the defense. Soul crushing stuff, but there's nothing you can do about it unless you have equally talented pilots on the other team.

  • @II-SierraBravo-II
    @II-SierraBravo-II 4 года назад +1

    Even my dreams don’t grant me the power to hit shots like these xD great job!

  • @MadMo-VFR
    @MadMo-VFR 4 года назад +1

    the random pilot's i spawn with usually like to find pennies around the map smh

  • @AreaBlackk
    @AreaBlackk 4 года назад +1

    i really appreciate the guys for sending these videos and u putting them together... 👏🏾

  • @mdwilson94
    @mdwilson94 4 года назад +1

    great vid, would love to see more of the live comms with dual perspective-- wish cosair posted more gameplay

  • @proevo1502
    @proevo1502 4 года назад +8

    As much as I appreciate the skill and communication between yourself and the pilot, I would hate to be on the opposite side as you're way too good and more frustrating been on your side there wouldn't be anyone e else to kill.
    I try the helis but am really useless at it & don't think I've ever killed any infantry or other helis whilst flying one,what confuses me is what options / gadgets to have.

    • @xloltimex38
      @xloltimex38 4 года назад +2

      i can help you what do you want to know

  • @lumizera1700
    @lumizera1700 4 года назад +5

    YOu guys are good, holy shit, never seen this high level play on attack helis

  • @dmrc43
    @dmrc43 4 года назад +1

    Flying helis in bf was my jam, ever since bc1 .

  • @stefanmodigh7897
    @stefanmodigh7897 4 года назад +1

    Thought they would be fully tactical when speaking to each other...it was more like "lets go for a walk in the park" lol....But now I know why I suck so bad at bf4.

  • @sephirothprudiise1865
    @sephirothprudiise1865 4 года назад +1

    I was playing BF4 on Xbox yesterday and I met a damn good recon player XzVenom SnakezX on Golmuund Railway. Nobody else wanted to use the vehicles on the map except the tanks so he jumped into the Apache an I spawned on him then we took out ground tanks an I shot down some helicopters. We went from loosing the match to winning it cause of it. Most fun I have had

    • @Covert_Arrangements
      @Covert_Arrangements 4 года назад +1

      I’ve literally played with that guy too. He is excellent at evasive maneuvering.

    • @sephirothprudiise1865
      @sephirothprudiise1865 4 года назад

      MELLO MELLO Seriously! Wow that is so cool, I only play BF4 once in awhile cause usually I am on PS4 playing GT Sport but I started Battlefield on Xbox when Bad Company 2 was THE game an I can't play any BF title on anything but Xbox. I still remember this moment on Siege Of Shanghai he had spawned on the support chopper and I was side passanger repairing. Our pilot had jumped out to snipe across from D , so were free falling an this guy switched seats so fast to pilot an saved the heli from crashing INCHS from the ground sweeping an wide left angle around to the side of D's point. Its the 2 floor department store with the roof elevator. Pulls it stable to the front side of E base and starts circling around the middle C building that you can destroy.

  • @BRACIAKSERO
    @BRACIAKSERO 4 года назад

    6:26 look at that sneaky turn, wow, never seen something like that

  • @ABLYamimash3
    @ABLYamimash3 4 года назад

    That shockwave at 8:37! The graphics still hold up

  • @justinrita7793
    @justinrita7793 4 года назад

    When you get in a helicopter you know you can jump in and jump out then jump back in and lift off pretty much immediately. I use to do this all the time when stealing enemy helicopters and needing to get up quickly when in a pinch.

  • @anxietyebriety6553
    @anxietyebriety6553 4 года назад

    Fantastic synchronicity

  • @MartyFriedmanJr
    @MartyFriedmanJr 4 года назад

    been flying in battlefield for 10+ years and just learned the different choppers actually have statistical differences and arent just skins

  • @ak-1271
    @ak-1271 4 года назад

    Goddamm
    I've never seen such accuracy with both tow and tv missiles. You guys rock at playing heli.

  • @mosconioni4523
    @mosconioni4523 4 года назад +1

    Amazing Heli Pilot, requires much more skill than people think... I was one on PS3

  • @ivanhorvat1995
    @ivanhorvat1995 4 года назад +4

    I consider myself a pretty good Heli pilot in BF4, my brother is always the gunner and usually has between 50 and 100 kills per round... However... I can't get a grip of the TOW. For hundreds of hours, I've been only able to hit either static or slow moving targets, and when I shoot jet or helicopter it's mostly luck. Followed tutorials, practiced... But it seems you also need talent for that...

    • @xloltimex38
      @xloltimex38 4 года назад

      the only way i really improved is while playing airsupperiority on guillin with helis.

  • @atonxment2868
    @atonxment2868 Год назад

    So there comes the most expensive part of the setup: a friend

  • @Commander-lh6ey
    @Commander-lh6ey 4 года назад

    yo my man did you just jump out of a chopper and back into it somehow at 4:50?

  • @ArkFisted
    @ArkFisted 4 года назад

    I love flying helicopters when half the team is targeting you

  • @The_Andy_H
    @The_Andy_H 4 года назад

    In this map stingers and iglas hit through countermeasures the most for some reason.
    it also happened to me on ps4.

  • @romandogan8049
    @romandogan8049 4 года назад

    Was that a cod hitmarker sound at 9:07?

  • @_genesis_5283
    @_genesis_5283 4 года назад +1

    Me. Starting video
    Me. noooo wayyy

  • @MrMrtommy
    @MrMrtommy 4 года назад +4

    I really miss entering and exiting vehicles without animatations. It saved you a lot

  • @VinhDemo
    @VinhDemo 4 года назад +2

    I have a big question, how can you or he can shoot tow mistle while turning around in the air and not falling down or lose your balance , because I have been practicing to do this a lot of times but I can't do it like way he do in your video bro?!

    • @VinhDemo
      @VinhDemo 4 года назад +1

      bradd 91- Bruh if u had play more than 1 thousand hours can u do IT?!
      Stop discriminating new players, it doesn't make you any more superior

    • @xloltimex38
      @xloltimex38 4 года назад

      what do you mean? the barrel roll or a 180 degree turn. you learn the behavior of the tow after some time. was never able to get a barrel roll kill on a heli but tbh i never trained it. but i was still decent with the tow. have 2 clips on my chanel

  • @Taanstafl12
    @Taanstafl12 4 года назад

    0:21 "Juul Gameplay"?

  • @AkaComeau
    @AkaComeau 4 года назад

    Cosair knows trees are the superior active armour

  • @kevarsa
    @kevarsa 4 года назад

    Where is the airwolf music

  • @mateocroatia2047
    @mateocroatia2047 4 года назад

    Man u guys are really killing it

  • @CTRLCriptx
    @CTRLCriptx 4 года назад

    Can you show the jump repair technique for a video ???

  • @carpfisherr9030
    @carpfisherr9030 4 года назад +13

    Nothing beats flying the heli in bf3 even bf4 was trash

    • @xloltimex38
      @xloltimex38 4 года назад

      wtf bf3 heli was garbage compared to bf4 especially with those heatseekers

    • @IlNamelessKinglI
      @IlNamelessKinglI 4 года назад

      @@xloltimex38 BF3 fan bois protectin no skill BF3 till they are in their tomb

    • @xloltimex38
      @xloltimex38 4 года назад

      @@IlNamelessKinglI thats sadly true

    • @IlNamelessKinglI
      @IlNamelessKinglI 4 года назад

      @@xloltimex38 The fact that BF4 has Tows and you can do those crazy stunt shots already makes BF4 better. Flying Helis in BF3 was just hovering with heat seekers while the gunner had a Thermal Scope and unlimited ammo farming ppl all day on all maps with 0 counters except for other Helis and Jets. Even Soflam + Javelin was useless because if you hover away from the lock you are 100% safe.

    • @xloltimex38
      @xloltimex38 4 года назад

      @Guilherme Oliveira wrong comment no one here stated that bf4 is the best battlefield

  • @johnhutton929
    @johnhutton929 4 года назад +19

    Jump seating is unrealistic. How about dice get rid of exploits as such.

  • @ABLYamimash3
    @ABLYamimash3 4 года назад

    Why is the Havoc worse? Is it the cockpit view or manoeuvrability?

  • @copperthedergy
    @copperthedergy 4 года назад

    why exactly is the havoc a bad helicopter? Big and unwieldy?

  • @eelkoderouw1432
    @eelkoderouw1432 4 года назад

    The thing is, I remember watching matimio and lvlcap in 2013/2014 and there would be regular comments in their mailbox series asking about animations when entering vehicles. So it's sort of the fault of the community for asking for it

  • @erwiin9725
    @erwiin9725 4 года назад

    every gunner has his dream pilot

  • @chrisdechiara9116
    @chrisdechiara9116 4 года назад

    I don't get how you jump in and out at will? How do you get back in while its flying away so fast

  • @dylanbrannon59
    @dylanbrannon59 4 года назад

    Bro Corsair was on my team about a week ago. Hell yeah man great video

  • @lorddeath6300
    @lorddeath6300 4 года назад

    I don’t know how to get the dlc, it says it’s not available in the PS4 store anymore 😢

  • @ChrisS-nj3ye
    @ChrisS-nj3ye 4 года назад

    This game was epic. Crazy flying there

  • @arkthefennecfox2366
    @arkthefennecfox2366 2 года назад

    the AA can be like the Eye of Sauron sometimes, you even peak a hilltop and you'll get a free haircut, same goes for the attack heli, both are fucking scary.
    Im trying to get better as a pilot.., its.., challenging.., would you advise i use controller? (Keyboard is too wonky for me..)

  • @1ofthelastrockers
    @1ofthelastrockers 4 года назад

    Why not vehicle animations with the ability to cancel so you can address incoming fire. Ex. Youre about to enter a vehicle, take incoming, press the crouch button, cut the animation and return fire, then if you kill said enemy, press the enter button, and the rest of the animation plays.

  • @gman8599
    @gman8599 4 года назад

    Do u use the arrows to fly an air vehicle or u use a mouse?

  • @needsomegoon5260
    @needsomegoon5260 4 года назад

    He just took out like 4 tanks and a helicopter in 30 seconds

  • @jacksonschit4018
    @jacksonschit4018 4 года назад

    0:38 is was nice.

  • @BradAce
    @BradAce 4 года назад

    Will your 360 stats carry on to Xbox one stats? if it does I was 5th in the world on Rush, my strategic game was madness.

  • @IIHerrKulesII
    @IIHerrKulesII 2 года назад

    Man, I miss your videos with Marius. I feel your pain with 2042 too, but the BF4 Community is still alive, and your Videos will give us a great inspiration for freaky only in Battlefield (4) moments...please come back with content

  • @fellowkg5715
    @fellowkg5715 4 года назад

    Pretty amazing, keep it up man you are great :D

  • @kurtemus
    @kurtemus 4 года назад

    Great TVs n teamwork!

  • @jorneggestad
    @jorneggestad 4 года назад +1

    Hey Aka! As an old bf player I wonder if u also played the good old game battlefield play4free? That was my first bf game that started my bf life :P

  • @tera.
    @tera. 4 года назад

    what does Cosair use to fly? some flight stick, kb&m?

  • @michaelgrossman1201
    @michaelgrossman1201 4 года назад

    Probably the best team I’ve seen

  • @Bush-Shark
    @Bush-Shark 4 года назад

    What are your graphics settings?

  • @ParaIyzer
    @ParaIyzer 4 года назад

    How to make aim speed of tv missle too much?

  • @TPFBaIls
    @TPFBaIls 3 года назад

    you both are amazing pilots and im jealous

  • @pedrosilva-di4lg
    @pedrosilva-di4lg 4 года назад

    I have a question, what are the more troublesome AA missiles (normal lock-on, passive or active radar) to deal with? I would assume if the heli pilot is very aggressive the active radar are better but if he keeps his distance the passive radar are better since you can re-lock the same missile again

    • @Lucas2Kay
      @Lucas2Kay 4 года назад +1

      Passives are the the worst to deal with because of the passive glitch, u fire the passives switch to ur guns then switch back and the enemy pilot doesmt even get a notification that they're being locked and ur passives just yeet him

  • @somerandom1839
    @somerandom1839 4 года назад +1

    I hope Battlefield 6 has a heli- or 2 been waiting since Battlefield 4..

    • @tavim5481
      @tavim5481 4 года назад

      lol yeah cant believe dice made 2 old warfare games in a row. A return to Vietnam would be awesome right?

    • @inbaconwetrust4519
      @inbaconwetrust4519 4 года назад

      @@tavim5481 I was hoping for Battlefield 2142 or 2143 to continue the Easter egg story of Battlefield 4.

  • @jacobdoolan4978
    @jacobdoolan4978 4 года назад

    soooo, should i get this for x box 1?

  • @Ito614
    @Ito614 4 года назад

    why the havoc is bad?

  • @whytewavestudios3039
    @whytewavestudios3039 4 года назад

    This looks like so much fun

  • @thicc-amer4869
    @thicc-amer4869 4 года назад +1

    Cosair is the reason why I play with the attack heli
    Am his number 1 fan 😝
    I remember when you said it in a live stream will playing bf1

  • @KGAnims
    @KGAnims 4 года назад

    Why do you consider Mi28 terrible? I thought all attack helicopters share same stats, just visuals being different.

  • @alexcloyd9620
    @alexcloyd9620 4 года назад

    What's your average k/d in matches like these shown?

  • @LeanChronicles
    @LeanChronicles 4 года назад

    Why is havoc worse than viper?