I'm a BMW Fan boy, great lap record 🎉🎉well done BMW M division... I think BMW would get sub 7 minutes lap records if they work on Aerodynamics. BMW cars already have great mechanical grip so if only they do aerodynamics like the Porsche 992 gt3 rs and the new mustang gtd it will be a great car that will break and hold records for a long time
@@timothy6049 A CTR S Grade did this a second slower. BMW's main competition is Mercedes and Audi, and the RS3 was faster. Despite having AWD, the RS3 weighs less, and is down on power over the M2. This is a second slower than a 500hp Z28 Camaro from 2013 (10 years ago). The M2 weighs 3,800 lbs now, and is basically a SWB M4 with the same weight. Nothing special here.
Congrats on getting the lap record. I do have to say, is 1,8 tons considered a compact car now? I feel like there should be a weight limit to what the compact class is.
Actually do u really know what compact is? It’s about fitting a a lot in a small space, so if it’s weighs even more that means it’s even more compact, definitely makes it a worse car but compact doesn’t mean light weight
@@BMWROYAL perhaps not, but compact classed cars have always meant small (or to the smaller side), nimble and lightweight, let's not lie to ourselves here
That's why this is no longer an M2. An M2 is supposed to be a handful to handle - that is its character. This new version is quick but doesn't make it the best. Weighs more than a previous gen M5. BMW have the ingredients all wrong for this latest car (notice I didn't say M2 because its not one).
@@DannySarbs I had a manual 2023 Supra I didn’t like it Toyota doesn’t know to tune the suspension It was too twitchy no confidence while driving I bought because it seemed like the best BMW light small b58 sub 60k in reality it’s only good if you want to go fast in a straight line which it did made a lot of muscle cars mad
You can tell a great driver for making time look… easy and fluid between turns. Also great job BMW, for making a car that can be a daily driver AND beat yesterdays super cars.
But the suspension feels like shit on the road exactly because manufacturers like BMW tune the car for Nordschleife lap times and not for every day comfort. I bought a 2020 M2C but the ride was terrible, I sold it after only 5,000 miles. The older M cars were far more comfortable. The Nordschleife lap time tuning is ruining modern sports cars.
I have watched countless videos on boards, tutorials, 100s of laps i iracing, and i have to say this is some of the best and sharpest driving ive seen yet, taught me a few things!
@@BMWMyh nice car but what about making a sports car which ways less than 1500kg, ideally below 1400kg although that might be difficult with the regulations today
Tire size and power are the biggest differences for that lap time. Still a hideous rendition of an M car. I would take an f87 m2 over this a million times over. I own one anyways.
I along with many other people do not agree with the way M is going with their designs and just their cars overall, but the M2 is an exception. It looks really weird, but it’s pretty cool. And this lap is very impressive too.
I'm a BMW Fan boy, great lap record 🎉🎉well done BMW M division... I think BMW would get sub 7 minutes lap records if they work on Aerodynamics. BMW cars already have great mechanical grip so if only they do aerodynamics like the Porsche 992 gt3 rs and the new mustang gtd it will be a great car that will break and hold records for a long time
How dare you ask people to have common sense and actually read a description to have their question answered. Almost like that is what the description is for. 😂
@@BMWM I would have liked to see the exterior of the car at the start of the video to see if there were any mods. For example the pic of this video has an M2 with a wing, so i wonder if this was the case with this car you used for the lap record.
@@MarphyW In the world of electric cars. Proper 6 speed ( last gen for BMW ), rear wheel drive, loads of HP/torque, usable backseats/trunk, at the same time world class suspension. Maybe it needs to be spelled out for you to see 😂
It certainly packs a punch when it comes to performance. It's a testament to the M's engineering prowess and dedication to creating exhilarating driving experiences 🚗✈️🏁😄
wow very impressive speed! I am wondering about not hitting red line on upshifts but maybe the curves show that isn't necessary. in that way pretty low stressed result. congratulations ///M for such a heavy car! awesome!
What a time. BMW still delivers raw numbers Even though zf 8 speed is a great piece of equipment you can clearly see a noticeable shift lag in the track setting. It's a shame
@@BMWM In the BMW 7 Series advertisement, the BMW owner drives his car to the airport, gets into his plane and flies the plane. In the Mercedes advertisement the owner of the Mercedes has a private driver and a private plane pilot for him. The difference is clear, BMW is for professionals, Mercedes is for a rich donkey.
In the BMW 7 Series advertisement, the BMW owner drives his car to the airport, gets into his plane and flies the plane. In the Mercedes advertisement the owner of the Mercedes has a private driver and a private plane pilot for him. The difference is clear, BMW is for professionals, Mercedes is for a rich donkey.
Eh? The Type R did 7:44, and that was a stripped out version. Also, since when has track performance scaled perfectly with price? You're comparing a BMW with a Honda for a start.
Don't like the way it looks. Don't like the way it sounds. Don't like the fact it's turbocharged. Don't like the engine reving up to just 6.5k. And most of all, don't like the fact that it weighs more than 1.7 tons! BUT: I have to say, that performance is really impressive.
Although an impressive achievement, which I congratulate M for, this is as much of a compact car as the Toyota GT-One was a road car. "Yes, technically"
This car is amazing, but the people that drive this track are something else. Like these dudes do your best lap on the sim but in real life. Like what?!
All credits to BMW but you still gotta give it to the Civic Type R, A whole ass 135 HP Down (44%) but only 6 second slower than this as the M2 Pulled a whole 3 seconds Over the Civic on the last straight
The Civic Type R was actually a factory modified Type R S Grade that is stripped in the interior and is lighter than the regular Type R. It doesn't even have an infotainment system. And then you have a Civic that you spent over 50k on.
As these guys said, the civic wasn't stock. The CTR posted within 1 mph of a 400hp PDK Carrera 4S on the long straight. Sounds like a lot of extra boost to me!
You can clearly see the tires and suspension are doing all the work, and still its even clearer this car is too heavy, if it werent for those cup2’s the car would be understeering all over the place, it doesnt point its nose like any other F generation M model
Mostly tires made the difference between the Lambo, and @@B__L I think you mean 1 second slower. The Honda CTR S Grade did it in a second slower using the same tire (MPSC2) and some light weighting (probably less than 50lbs), but it really goes to show what 800lbs less weight can do for handling. Audi RS3 was faster too, which says a lot considering it is AWD and the M2 is not, yet the M2 is heavier. Back to the drawing room boys.
Always been curious with these new BMWs, especially M models, what is the thumping sound on upshifts particularly the higher rpm upshifts? May be a dumb question but certainly sounds different then other cars.
Very impressive. Sacrifice car's weight by adding half of M4's parts and with that ruining the whole idea of the 2 series just to beat a 15-yo 997 is a true testament.
Looking at the trees, I see no leaves. So when was this lap driven? Surely not during summer 2023. Maybe March 2023 ??? Why did you wait like 4-5 months to publish it?
Here we go again someone commenting about the weight who as probably only ever looked at one on line or in a showroom, regardless of the weight its a very fast compact(meaning small) car and it disguises its weight very well if pushed hard my wife's is one of the best cars I have driven for ages, a 718 wouldn't shake it off on a B road with 2 drivers of equal ability trust me.
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I'm a BMW Fan boy, great lap record 🎉🎉well done BMW M division...
I think BMW would get sub 7 minutes lap records if they work on Aerodynamics. BMW cars already have great mechanical grip so if only they do aerodynamics like the Porsche 992 gt3 rs and the new mustang gtd it will be a great car that will break and hold records for a long time
@@timothy6049 A CTR S Grade did this a second slower. BMW's main competition is Mercedes and Audi, and the RS3 was faster. Despite having AWD, the RS3 weighs less, and is down on power over the M2. This is a second slower than a 500hp Z28 Camaro from 2013 (10 years ago). The M2 weighs 3,800 lbs now, and is basically a SWB M4 with the same weight. Nothing special here.
Is not the oem bucket seat
@@jiraceJealous you're never gonna have one. 😢
@@timothy6049 ahahhahahahah rs3 is 735
Congrats on getting the lap record.
I do have to say, is 1,8 tons considered a compact car now? I feel like there should be a weight limit to what the compact class is.
yeah almost 2 tonnes for what's supposed to compete against Porsche 718 Boxster and the likes of that, really doesn't make sense
@@noah1179 i agree, even though there is a big difference between 2 tons and 1.8 (which is exxagerating a bit already)
Actually do u really know what compact is? It’s about fitting a a lot in a small space, so if it’s weighs even more that means it’s even more compact, definitely makes it a worse car but compact doesn’t mean light weight
@@BMWROYAL perhaps not, but compact classed cars have always meant small (or to the smaller side), nimble and lightweight, let's not lie to ourselves here
@@noah1179 not true watch any videos on compact cars and the last thing they will mention is the weight, what are you even talking about
An incredibly impressive lap time.
You can really see how well it handles.
Great job BMW M!
Thank you it really shows off it's power! 🙌 🔥
@@BMWM how old is this record? looks like its from march or early april the trees are not green
I'm assuming it's the 5th April record@@mariojakel5544
Edit: No.. That record was 7:38 not 7:33
It handles like shit, the only thing saving this car is the power
all great but too fugly !!!!
I've never seen such a 'easy' lap record haha! The way this guy drives the car almost looks relaxed. Congrats BMW!
A true champ 💪
That's why this is no longer an M2. An M2 is supposed to be a handful to handle - that is its character. This new version is quick but doesn't make it the best. Weighs more than a previous gen M5. BMW have the ingredients all wrong for this latest car (notice I didn't say M2 because its not one).
@@HTH88it's basically another M4
@@FenderUsa pretty much
@@HTH88it’s an M2
S58 getting people mad great job
Make the Z4M happen
with manual transmission and -300 KG
That's what the Supra is
@@DannySarbs I had a manual 2023 Supra I didn’t like it Toyota doesn’t know to tune the suspension It was too twitchy no confidence while driving
I bought because it seemed like the best BMW light small b58 sub 60k in reality it’s only good if you want to go fast in a straight line which it did made a lot of muscle cars mad
@@DannySarbs That's not Supra, plus even modern Z4 is more beautiful than supra.
No just bring back classic styling of Z3
The grip level is really impressive. Masterclass engineering once again and done by BMW
💪💪💪
Give credits to Michelin, they’re advancing faster than car manufacturers.
@@arapaimagold8088 ps cup 2 r is for real a very good tire. You definetly got a point there.
@@arapaimagold8088I read. Only cup 2s no r
The grip is all to do with advancements in tire technology, BMW with their 1.8 Tonnes behemoth of a compact sports coupe didnt do their best
You can tell a great driver for making time look… easy and fluid between turns. Also great job BMW, for making a car that can be a daily driver AND beat yesterdays super cars.
lol it can't beat anything, R35 GTR from 2013 get it done in 7:18
@@djchasingsummerjoan
Nobody meatrides the GTR this hard besides the latinx.
He defo pushed those last 2 corners because the boss was watching 😅
Very German to display lateral accel in m/s/s. To convert to the more common "G" force, divide by roughly 10 (or ~9.8). 🙂
Shame its a Mexican manufactured car then.
I think its still very obvious how many Gs it is considering a G is 9.81
@@blocksource41929.81meters/second²
aka the default gravity of earth
The suspension work is impressive, very good driving skill by the pilot. 👏👌👍
But the suspension feels like shit on the road exactly because manufacturers like BMW tune the car for Nordschleife lap times and not for every day comfort. I bought a 2020 M2C but the ride was terrible, I sold it after only 5,000 miles. The older M cars were far more comfortable. The Nordschleife lap time tuning is ruining modern sports cars.
@@richbuckinghamdon't buy a f*cking sports car if you want to have a comfortable ride stupid 🤦
@@richbuckinghamthat means you brought the wrong car if you're seeking for everday comfort
A vehicle you can pick up in the same configuration from the BMW dealership - wow! Congratulations, M division!
I have watched countless videos on boards, tutorials, 100s of laps i iracing, and i have to say this is some of the best and sharpest driving ive seen yet, taught me a few things!
That thing is a rocket, wow. Good job Bmw M as always
We do try 🚀
@@BMWM now try make it much lighter and break some more records
@@BMWMyh nice car but what about making a sports car which ways less than 1500kg, ideally below 1400kg although that might be difficult with the regulations today
all great but too fugly !!!!
Well done and congratulations on the lap time! 10 seconds or so faster than the F87 M2CS.
Tire size and power are the biggest differences for that lap time. Still a hideous rendition of an M car. I would take an f87 m2 over this a million times over. I own one anyways.
@@mr_squintz_4655sold my f87 for one!
But only 11 or so seconds better than a 20 year old E46 M3 CSL with a garbage SMG slush box, much older/inferior tires and an NA engine.
@@mr_squintz_4655 same, I’m keeping my M2CS 😃
@@KosmicHRTRacingTeam17 seconds, the E46-time was for the 20.6km-layout
Amazing driving as always. Love to see BMW still keeping ICE exciting and fun. Congratulations.
Only the best for our fans 💪
I like that the M2 in the bottom right is looking at the red dot most of the time
Hats off to the team and the driver, they made a fast car
Fast, yeah.
But REALLY ugly. Holly shit!
Thanks to Michelin that they make tires to cruise the ship over the Nürburgring.
I along with many other people do not agree with the way M is going with their designs and just their cars overall, but the M2 is an exception. It looks really weird, but it’s pretty cool. And this lap is very impressive too.
Pls bring back the 1200-1300 kg BMWM Ty
nobody would want to daily those anymore. And probably due to regulations a car of that weight is not possible in this class.
@peterhammer6915 Yep that's what people don't realize.
I'm a BMW Fan boy, great lap record 🎉🎉well done BMW M division...
I think BMW would get sub 7 minutes lap records if they work on Aerodynamics. BMW cars already have great mechanical grip so if only they do aerodynamics like the Porsche 992 gt3 rs and the new mustang gtd it will be a great car that will break and hold records for a long time
For people asking the same question about which record. Please read the description. It’ll help.
How dare you ask people to have common sense and actually read a description to have their question answered. Almost like that is what the description is for. 😂
Still, nonsense!!! This car doesn’t belong to the “compact class segment” in any stretch of the imagination weighting 1,7 ton!
@@flavioc5389when did weight matter when it comes to the DIMENSIONS of a vehicle? It’s compact genius
Or you could have said "compact class. it's also in the description", instead of being a condescending prick
No thank you. The title says it all.
If you slow the playback to 1/2 or 1/4 and watch the brake and throttle bars, you can really see how he uses trail braking to max effect!
God I’m so lucky to be working for this company
If they make the same dials as on this video, I’ll get one 😂
Damn today the M2 was the first
And this with a car you can buy exactly the same from your local dealer. Bravo M!
Need still theses tires PS Cup 2 ;-)
That is truly impressive considering the size. Great job to the driver and the car!
Driver was Jörg Weidinger - no date provided on the official Nürburgring website, which is unusual. According to BMW it was some day in april.
The Master performance...
The top notch of engineering.
It's my quote for BMW
That's a good looking lap around the green hell
Pushing that throttle every corner to get that boat to rotate lol
As a 1series owner and I love it. But One day I will own this car, Such a beautiful work of art. Bravo team BMW!
Thank you, we aim to please 💙
Beautiful???hardly!! the E46CSL was beautiful , the 635 coupe was beautiful , this is not!
@@Kiwigold-on7mc to each their own, brother. I’m Sorry you don’t like this M2.
Incredible performance in a car that pretty much does everything amazingly well! This is an absolute home run from BMW. Instant classic.
He shoots, he scores! That's BMW M for you 🤪
@@BMWM I would have liked to see the exterior of the car at the start of the video to see if there were any mods. For example the pic of this video has an M2 with a wing, so i wonder if this was the case with this car you used for the lap record.
Instant classic? In which world? 😂
@@MarphyW In the world of electric cars. Proper 6 speed ( last gen for BMW ), rear wheel drive, loads of HP/torque, usable backseats/trunk, at the same time world class suspension. Maybe it needs to be spelled out for you to see 😂
@@arymonem Well you get all of that and more in the M4 already at the same weight. Let me guess, instant classic as well? 😜
the m2 is a beast. and kudos to the driver.
Yes, that's beast mode for sure 😎
I’m more impressed with the Michelin pilot sport 4s tires you made
Cant believe its the baby M-car, it just flies through the track like an airplane! Good job M team
It certainly packs a punch when it comes to performance. It's a testament to the M's engineering prowess and dedication to creating exhilarating driving experiences 🚗✈️🏁😄
wow very impressive speed! I am wondering about not hitting red line on upshifts but maybe the curves show that isn't necessary. in that way pretty low stressed result. congratulations ///M for such a heavy car! awesome!
A Korean G87 owner praises you🎉
Holy f*ck the sound of the upshift is just magnificent peek sound
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What a time. BMW still delivers raw numbers
Even though zf 8 speed is a great piece of equipment you can clearly see a noticeable shift lag in the track setting. It's a shame
106° position on the list of the production cars, that is quite impressive
even as a Mercedes guy, this is still pretty awesome. Congrats M!
That's music to our ears 🤍
Mercedes don't have manual transmission cars
@@BMWM In the BMW 7 Series advertisement, the BMW owner drives his car to the airport, gets into his plane and flies the plane. In the Mercedes advertisement the owner of the Mercedes has a private driver and a private plane pilot for him. The difference is clear, BMW is for professionals, Mercedes is for a rich donkey.
In the BMW 7 Series advertisement, the BMW owner drives his car to the airport, gets into his plane and flies the plane. In the Mercedes advertisement the owner of the Mercedes has a private driver and a private plane pilot for him. The difference is clear, BMW is for professionals, Mercedes is for a rich donkey.
@@CELERITYZENITH bro went on a rant 💀 its called a difference in taste
Such a fine machine. Well done, BMW M team!
Well, thank you ❤️
WOW, what a finish
Spoken like a true fan! 💙
Very impressive lap. Almost a second faster than a Civic Type R for only double the price! Still.. very nice car :)
Eh? The Type R did 7:44, and that was a stripped out version. Also, since when has track performance scaled perfectly with price? You're comparing a BMW with a Honda for a start.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@@gw7624 actually honda is the only one who did not stripped the car, also bmw did it on semislicks
@@mihakumar5570 What are you talking about? They were both on Cup 2s.
I wouldn’t drive the Civic even if it was a minute faster.
Not a bad time for a 2 ton car!
Thankfully the car runs better than it looks.
Perfect pilot, heavy M2 but best time than RS3 ! good job BMW
Only 2sec with a difference of 66hp
@@Олег-ь5ч8б and how much kilogrammes? And 460-407 = 56, no?
Don't like the way it looks. Don't like the way it sounds. Don't like the fact it's turbocharged. Don't like the engine reving up to just 6.5k. And most of all, don't like the fact that it weighs more than 1.7 tons! BUT: I have to say, that performance is really impressive.
You sound like fun at piss ups..🫵
@@krazy2094hes just honest and way more relatable than other who are just dicc riding🤷♂️
What a great driver, Racing this car through green hell seems like effortlessly
💙💙💙
The thumbnail is so much cooler than the road car.
The inside camera would be better from rear seats ✌
This car looks great from the inside
Would look better with you in it 😈
Although an impressive achievement, which I congratulate M for, this is as much of a compact car as the Toyota GT-One was a road car. "Yes, technically"
This car is amazing, but the people that drive this track are something else. Like these dudes do your best lap on the sim but in real life. Like what?!
Waiting for the Misha stamp of approval ;)
Thanks BMW M GmbH for such Videos and Cars like the M2. Also a Masterpiece and impressive Car. Thanks a lot.
+RobertCekus That's BMW for you! 😉 🔥
blistering lap! the section at the end of the two minute mark was a flyer!
Certainly impressive! 🔥
the standards used to collect fuel and co2 data better be up to par for 2023
Cool, but the weight is absolutely ridiculous for such car. Any plans of making sub 1400kg cars soon?
Buy a porsche
@hpickettz34 but I don't want Porsche, I want FR platform. Besides, modern Porsches aren't lightweight either.
All credits to BMW but you still gotta give it to the Civic Type R, A whole ass 135 HP Down (44%) but only 6 second slower than this as the M2 Pulled a whole 3 seconds Over the Civic on the last straight
Any thoughts about the weight difference? 😉
Google type r nurburgring cheat. It's been pointed out by numerous experts that Honda likely ran a modified car to achieve that time.
The Civic Type R was actually a factory modified Type R S Grade that is stripped in the interior and is lighter than the regular Type R. It doesn't even have an infotainment system. And then you have a Civic that you spent over 50k on.
As these guys said, the civic wasn't stock. The CTR posted within 1 mph of a 400hp PDK Carrera 4S on the long straight. Sounds like a lot of extra boost to me!
It would be interesting to also see times for the m240i xdrive.
So, about the same time as a e46 m3 coupe on cup 2 tyres with the seats removed?
Yup. A 20 year old car.
Simply the best 4 seater sports car ever built. Bravo BMW
Thank you for the appreciation!
Super Runde!🎉
che mezzo ragazzi !!! Che manico !!! 👋👋👋👋👋
people who saw gran turismo at 0:55 😳
That is wild, as an Audi guy I kinda want an M2
YOLO 😁
Pssst...2025 rs3 just beat this by 5 seconds.
the last corner looked very very close man haha
Amazing lap! I’m expecting mine in a few days! What settings did you use for this lap? MDM or DSC off with 5 traction control?
You can clearly see the tires and suspension are doing all the work, and still its even clearer this car is too heavy, if it werent for those cup2’s the car would be understeering all over the place, it doesnt point its nose like any other F generation M model
A real stock M2 with a real record, nice job BMW.
Behave. How the fu** do you know it's actually stock? All manufacturers play games
No narration by Jörg? Not watching.
Please try this one: ruclips.net/video/EzIyoYF5JB0/видео.htmlsi=lXkblZUzaXK9JDSt 😎
A full lap of 7:38 doesn’t sound too impressive, until you realize that the Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 did it in 7:40!
The Murcy never was a fast track car.
You're talking about a 2 decades old car. Nothing is impressive about beating an old shell with old technology
A Mid 2000's (maybe 2006/7) GSX-R 600 did a 7.10 BTG, the equivalent of a 7.30 full lap.
Until you realize that a civic is only 6 seconds slower
Mostly tires made the difference between the Lambo, and @@B__L I think you mean 1 second slower. The Honda CTR S Grade did it in a second slower using the same tire (MPSC2) and some light weighting (probably less than 50lbs), but it really goes to show what 800lbs less weight can do for handling. Audi RS3 was faster too, which says a lot considering it is AWD and the M2 is not, yet the M2 is heavier. Back to the drawing room boys.
My grandson is performing really well
I am very impressed
We wouldn't expect anything else 🔥
Haven't any of you noticed that it's currently summer and the video was apparently shot in winter?
The gauges for the data logger look 100000x better than the awful cluster that comes in the car.
Bravo BMW !
Thank you, we try! ❤️
Cant wait for the Bentley continental to set the next record in the compact class🤯
The audio being out of sync w/ the on screen tach is a bit odd from such a large company. Cool car and track driving though.
Impressive car. Give the chassis and engine team a raise and fire the design team.
The version of the M2 in the Thumbnail looks like the car the M2 was destined to be. What we got looks like someone described it on the phone.
I wish you guys brought back the e46 m3 GTR as a 50th year anniversary edition that would of been so cool
Dream car, amazing job
Always been curious with these new BMWs, especially M models, what is the thumping sound on upshifts particularly the higher rpm upshifts? May be a dumb question but certainly sounds different then other cars.
👍Auf Die Dauer... Hilft Nur M-Power
You almost feel sea sick watching that heavy car go round the bends
A heavy car that knows how to turn.
@@erik9108 that wasn't my point 😂
It seems fine?
@@fifteen8850 you don't know much about centrifugal forces
@@Draconian8 ok? The car’s still flat around corners
I'll be sure to pick one of these up when I tire of my e82 1m :)
Grande máquina M2 top🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Very impressive. Sacrifice car's weight by adding half of M4's parts and with that ruining the whole idea of the 2 series just to beat a 15-yo 997 is a true testament.
Such a great car… I would love to drive it ❤
Looking at the trees, I see no leaves. So when was this lap driven? Surely not during summer 2023. Maybe March 2023 ??? Why did you wait like 4-5 months to publish it?
Listen if you could insure that I wouldn’t die I could beat this lap time 😂 otherwise I ain’t trying. great work
Great car!
You know it ❤️
nice car !
Here we go again someone commenting about the weight who as probably only ever looked at one on line or in a showroom, regardless of the weight its a very fast compact(meaning small) car and it disguises its weight very well if pushed hard my wife's is one of the best cars I have driven for ages, a 718 wouldn't shake it off on a B road with 2 drivers of equal ability trust me.
Could save some weight if they got rid of that giant TV in the middle.