Taliban Returns |William Darlymple on what the world gets wrong on Afghanistan | Barkha Dutt
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
- William Dalrymple, author and historian, wrote Return of a King, on the failure of military intervention in Afghanistan and how British invaders were humiliated and sent packing after the First Anglo-Afghan War.
As the Taliban returns to Kabul and the Americans are confronted with abject defeat after a 20-year war, the parallels with the present are stark. The author talks to Barkha Dutt
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This guy is one of my favorite authors ever.
Barkha should be fined 100 Rs every time she interrupts someone speaking their mind.
Only 100 rupees?
This was so insightful, thank you for the interview.
Brilliant William. A thorough understanding of Afghanistan history and articulate. Well done Barkha. So much depth in Mojo!
Beautiful, picturesque, .... WD has such a 🌈 rainbow way with words .... He paints a canvas for all to see!
Great interview!
Superb ! How does William churn out so many books, which all a great to read ?
I count him among the best historians and writers.
Fantastic interview, Barkha. So much perspective & so many lessons for Indians.
Gracias
Thx for this report
India is weak and spineless.... isliye nhi bulaya India ko....warna Afghan government khud bol rahi thi India ko bulane ko....par Russia ne mana kar diya .... because wo jaante hain India Kitna spineless hai , same haal USSR ke division ke time hua tha, jab India ko jaroorat thi toh USSR ne india ki bohut help ki par jab unko jaroorat padi toh India non align movement pakad ke baith gaya ??????
Watching this discussion made me wanting to read the book. Bought from Kindle, just starting reading, couldn't help noting even after few pages only how prophetic Dalrymple in 2012 had been.
"It won’t be long, one can be certain, before a few shot-up American Humvees and British Land-Rovers are added to the collection." (from "Return of a King: The Battle for Afghanistan" by William Dalrymple)
I love his book. Great work inked .
William fails to mention that Maharaja Ranjit Singh subdued Afghans much before the British failed in doing so. That's the reason why statue of Ranjit singh was attacked in Pakistan. Afghans feel humiliated every time they see how an Indian king conquered Afghanistan.
Sikhs Rulers and more so Marathas had potential & much better chance of being lasting empire after Mughals. Infact weakened Mughals had accepted Maratha Supremacy. But Alas, they both settled for cheap with British instead of fighting them. Even Nizams cut a better deal with British got the biggest Princely State. All these people fought against Tipu Sultan to Jhansi Ki Rani instead of fighting the british.
Sikhs I think conquered only till North western frontier and then Baluchistan which initially was considered as part of Afghanistan & later went to British then became part of pakistan. Mainland Afghanistan couldn't be conquered.
@@aleemunMaratha & Nizam should have backed tipu in fighting off British. History would have been so different.
He never conquered Afghanistan. He only reached and had Peshawer in his control. Which is far away from Afghanistan
@@zarvanali888 as per the current boundaries, peshawar is in Pakistan. Then it was eastern citadel of Afghans who were defeated by Ranjit Singh. Like I said, it is very hard for some to accept that afgans were decisively defeated by an Indian king.
Tremendous class, very interesting
Isn’t it ironic that a Brit takes the time and effort to be well versed in our history and the history of the region?
No, they looted us for 200 years, all Brit industrial revolution was funded by Indian money. They left us destitute, of course they want to know how the victims are doing,.
william darlympal is great historian.i have read his books ,very good and balanced writer. worth listening.his book Buhadar shah zafar a great book.
Gurkha wonderful you allow the guest to opine freely. You are on of the best interviewer
The most important lesson for Indians from US debacle in #afghanistan is this - our country is OUR responsibility to build, maintain & protect. Don't take our freedom lightly & definitely don't give it up to the hands of hate inciting bigots. #Reclaim our secularism, reclaim our civil society, reclaim our decency,. Vote Better India.
Well said Nina Bhagat. Let us create civilised thinking amongst our people, not a bunch of bigots.
Very interesting interview
Your last few Mojo stories have been great and well presented.Kindly do continue on same lines appearing to be less partisan.
Modi has substantial effect on communist party of India they decided to celebrate Independence Day after 75 years
When Modi came to power in his first meeting at Gujarat he said I will be pra dhan Seva work 24/7 /365
I will run incessantly to turn the country around
With a chuckle he added Others also will run after me !!
Urge for Just to exist is human !!
Murali Gopal. He has certainly turned the country around for the benefit of the corporates and he is certainly working hard for them.And we can all live in lala land.
The Taliban's, indeed the average Kilzai's antipathy, fed almost entirely by jealousy, towards the so-called westernised elite, is highly reminiscent of the constant cribbing in a section of the Indian middle class towards the so-called Lutyen's Delhi crowd. Same destructive narrow mindset.
Interesting history of Afghanistan.
At 3:45, he got butt hurt to learn British lost in Afghanistan and insisted India lost.
Everyone has their weakness. He exposed his weakness :-) . leaving that aside, it was a good interview to watch
Don't believe opinions, believe real news. A news which is doctored will be fed to you indirectly with lots of justifications, ifs & buts.
He wasn't hurt. He put facts. He clearly elicited how British exploited india. He said it was indian money, indian bankers but British decision and game to go to war. Please stop seeing unnecessary things
He is a historian, not given to personal weaknesses for empires and governments. He is just stating facts
The good thing about writing a book about the violent places of earth is that you keep getting called to TV interviews ever so often
Barkha we want some live reporting like u did in Kargil..... When r you reaching Kabul 😕😕
Why should she go to Afghanistan?
@incognito Indian Army is not rulling the country right now. As far as the current government is concerned, the less said the better.
Kargil & Pathankot - she reported live and gave away our army positions and a second by second movement of our troops. Hope you know what is freedom of speech, she used it to the fullest.
To report live. She loves to do that. Best would be to see her do that wearing a burka, after all, as she claims, Burka is worn by choice & saree signifies oppression. Best wishes to you & her.
Talib govt vs Indian Govt. I think taliban favour freedom of speech. Indian govt are fascist nazis. Barkha should report live from there, she is free to do so. What r u & Barkha scared of, Af is a free country.
Well done
Typically, both Barkha and Darymple do not discuss in detail the role of Pakistan. The Taliban is merely a front for Pakistan as Imran Khan's "victory" speech revealed
China behind the arms & funding.
"There are more cock ups in history than conspiracy" - epic 😂😂
William really played spoiler about his book, Return Of The King, when he spilled the beans on Dost Mohammad and his return as ruler of Afghanistan! I have the book, but haven't read it!
He must be serious, he kept her quiet for most of it, which is a monumental achievement.
I wish Barkha let him finish his thoughts without interruption. sigh ..
Absolutely agree with you.
She really can be annoying.
This man should be knighted for his works on south Asian
History. So listen to him barka. He is the one who
Knows.the rest of us are informed.
Bakrah Dutt should go to Afghanistan to talk to Taliban. She is a very smart person and she can live there without fear.
Same with William Dalrymple.
Totally agree.. she din brought ground report this time 😂
@@kratikasrivastava2804 Their brother Danish Siddiqui, went to Afghanistan to capture the report on camera and was hallaled by his peaceful taliban brothers.
@@akalrove4834 she should have also gone to the peaceful, women rights guardians coverage. Already india is not safe for them 🤣
Barkha is one of the most sensible journalists. She is less noice and more objective information. I agree with Bill. He does not speculate and has a positive mind. I hope the world assists & encourages the Taliban to bring in peace in Afghanistan instead of demonising them.
Barkha Americans wanted it that way girl. A huge army outnumbering the Taliban armed to the hilt and trained (LOL). TALIBAN are the most seasoned and trained army ever guess Why? They trained Hands on combat with worlds best armies of all countries. Barkha, with all due respect to you, its their country that welcomed them by not even raising a single finger at them. We sent our troops to Sri Lanka we lost our most respected PM and Indian troops got booted out. Had we been in Afghanistan we would have faced the shame of a filthy defeat. I REQUEST YOU TO FOCUS ON THE BURNING ISSUES IN INDIA instead of a Third country which is not even bordering us.
Expecting next book,Return of the Taliban , explaing all about the present situation!
Still, one can never predict what the Taliban could do. Maybe right now, Saad Moseni feels he is not being persecuted, but in time to come, he will be made to change his tune, slowly but surely
India with the help of the US used the Ashraf Ghani govt and Afghan land against Pakistan. India was very successful to squeeze and encircle Pak from both East and West side. And now, after the Taliban takeup of Kabul, Pak has successfully put an end to India's role in Afg. It's a game of state interest. AFG was always a strategic depth for Pak and Pak in any way can not allow any country to have endangered the Pak interests in AFG.
I will call him William ‘Tell’…tell tell…😜
The USA was never interested in ensuring peace in Afghanistan, just in ensuring their market for arms. Till the Russians were around, this was threatened, so the USA stayed. Now, it seems they've got a contract for arms from the Afghan government, whoever might be leading it: Karzai or the Taliban. So makes no sense (to them) to stay any longer
Before Ahmad Shah Abdali Peshwa Raghunathrao Peshwa had taken troops to Attock.
The world was talking about how the Taliban was winning against the Ghani govt military forces without a fight, but did anyone consider that Ghani's govt might have been sabotaging itself from the inside? I wonder what message was being communicated in the administration of those places that fell without a fight. In India, no one blames the administration, it is the politicians that are blamed. No nation must make it's administration fall into such apathy like perhaps the Ghani administration was in.
The Taliban needed Pakistan to win Afghanistan, and I think it's doubtful that the Taliban can survive where it is without Pakistan in the future too. There could be truth in the perception that the leadership of the Taliban is not either close, or friendly with Pakistan, though, and vice versa. However, it is necessary for both the Taliban and Pakistan, to carry this relationship forward.
Interessante.
The questions didn't really do justice to the knowledge of interviewee.
Ms.dutt, you may consider changing the background (behind you,) .... The mustard yellow is disturbing!! .... Do consider it!!!
It matches the interviewers abrasive, crude style. Watch the way she keep talking over the interviewees answers. So yeah, garish mustard is the right colour!!!
@@nishadass6960 .....YOU GUYS REALLY HATE INTELLECTUALS, DONT YOU???? IS IT TOO CHALLENGING FOR YOUR BRAIN????
What a rude , personal comment Nisha Dass . Totally uncalled for. Give people the freedom of choice to wear any colour they like.
@@nishadass6960 .... Nope .... Ms.dutt does great programs .... The set-up, a seperate suggestion
The super grit abration left to arnab-da & co .... As to the flap-overs into conversations, very few can master it, karanT does it, Arnab is a master
(he does not let anyone speak)
She sounds exactly like Family Guy's Trisha takinawa. 🤣🤣
Pathans never forget the people who betray them.
There was nothing wicked about The Company using Indian troops. The company was the highest feudal lord, of a region that was split into hundreds of feudal domains. These feudal domains were or made to become minions of the company, and also loved it.
Why is she looking like Chamunda from Jajantaram mamantaram movie 😂
The Kabul bazaar goes West.
13:16 ‘ 2021 version of Taliban’? …Taliban is the same as it was 20 yrs ago
The Taliban will say India treats women in the most horrific way given the fact of women raped and killed and beaten in india. And female infanticide, this is the most barbaric Indian practice. What moral right does India have to question Taliban
Get your point.quite agree with you.
all more so when these rapists belong to higher classes or have political connections,their crime seems no crime at all.horrific!
No one get it wrong.
Complacent is one of qualities that prevail in modern diplomacy.
Look in the animal world ,they kill out of fear or hunger,These 02 factors determine most of their day today routine.
The Afghan army was Complacent all the way help by other Arab intelligence agencies.
And another problem, Afghans men take for granted the mere calm that was installed by the US army.
And their attitude of no matter what the US army will be here.
They are to be blamed for
Is any journalist covering Taliban live in Afghanistan just like Mumbai terrorist attack was covered live?
RSS/ BJP considers Afghanistan as part of Akhand Bharat but chickens out on putting boots on the ground to peruse that goal.
Because before doing this we have to economically stable
And we will some day soon
Jai Hind Jai sri ram
We have to worry about people like you. Who are ready to join Taliban. First we have to clear our land with people like you and then your wish will come true.
All that talk is just hot air....
@@ayushranjan4439, You are right we have to become economically stable but In 7 years Modi has taken us downhill
@@Oceansta Modi jee has given us lot of hot air
is Barkha interested to go to Kabul? She can hug her sharia law and enjoy the rest of her life with the peacefuls
First great description of the taliban issue...it is a class issue, western elite vs the middle class and the rural was well as Pashtun vs Tajiks . Barkha duty then gives the old and tired line of terror networks bla bla bla
But France 🇫🇷 also curbs women’s rights and forces them to conform to their dress codes or else women would be deprived of education.
Barkha please report of France’s abuses of women and stopping them from getting an education
They want bikinis in class
France is in trouble .they now have so many Islamic people ..
@@bonzoandfamily9091 thats bevause they looted north africa and treated north africa worse then British treatmrnt of Hindustan. France is built on the back of North African subjugation and unlike the britisher carried out social engineering by killing educated class and mass genocide. France is still actively looting parts of Africa and involved in various coups. When you have a habbit of interefering, its affect eventually felt outside your house.
Egality, liberty freternity ....is applicable if one believs in France propganda. Politician life is above scrutiny in France and having mistress is perfectly normal...stench of hypocracy knows nobound. Lets not forget genocide by Deguile in North Africa in 50s and 60s.
@@mrnomad1737 I agree ...
America is trying to play a brilliant chess game with India. America brought the Taliban, now they announce their modern weapons are in the hands of Taliban, thereby signaling India to come closer to USA and purchase weapons from America. A beautiful chess game by the USA.
Wouldn’t doubt it
Yes , let us spend our money on expensive American weaponry and become bankrupt .
Interesting view point
And the dinosaurs once ruled the earth !!!
Waste of time.
History repeats itself, first as tragedy then as farce _ Karl Marx
Genuinely jealous of this man's knowledge..time to read..
O-thered!
Please send Barkha datta to Afganistan 🙏 india don’t deserve a divine soul like her .
Central Asia known in history known as Mongolia consists of nomads,tribals including chenghis khan who did not adhere to a religion.all this terrain hard and mountainous became haven for drugs, crime and free for all including kajskhd, ujbeks, turkmenistsn ,.kurguiz ...Especially after dis integration of erstwhile USSR with not so religious dictators and those few dis gruntled religious extremists finding refuge in Afghanistan.also,by now,it's apparent that democracy & freedom cannot be either exported or imported .It's the natives who should yearn and struggle to get them more than all this ,as Sir Bertrand Russell puts it ad long as social , economic and gender inequalities thrive in a society ,sure Religion will take the drivers seat
US’s Vietnam moment 2.0
Barkha dutt, you have fear in modi regime, you need to go Afghanistan.
Along with her brigade and allies and if possible like minded fellows too who feel unsafe.🤣👍
Just because taliban is worst does not mean that one cannot point out the bigotry of Modi and his party.
It's become more pertinent that this bigotry should be criticized as to stop bringing our own Taliban on the scene.
A country's head can't stop & stoop to media demands. This govt has ensured Leftist media get their news briefings & don't run the govt as was happening under MMS. If you fail to comprehend search Radia tapes, you will hear Barkha talking to Neera Radia. They were discussing which cabinet ministry should be given to which politician. It shows how weak was that govt. Now you decide whom you want to run the country, Lutyens or your elected representative.
Vedantic Enterprise: One thing you can say about Barkha; Like Kate Adie , she is fearless.
Winks K. : Neither. Just collect all the intelligent men ( India has plenty) and let them run the govt. All the well educated people instead of ignorant , medieval thinking people. Courageous , well educated , well informed people.
Let Allah sort out the mess in Afghanistan
A bit too late for Allah to do so.
The sod let the horrible event to
Happen without intervening
He or she could have stopped it.
Darymple is dead right on future Taliban Pakistan relationship
Expansionism of China is another issue Barkha ji...!!
Shariya laws were written in 7th century, why they are so obsessed ? I mean its 21st century , right ?
The one these people are following was written in 21st century. No where in the 7th century one is it written to do what these people are doing.
Manusmriti was written in 2nd century BCE and why are villages in India still infested with caste system..?
Sad, same like casteism, 5000yrs ago
@@adity126 Infested? Hello Karen! Is caste system Indian law, you imbecile??
@@neildutta nothing "imbecile" about it.what he's probably saying is the prevalence;even in 21st century.
It is now Taliban i-Chini bhai bhai.
Barkha ko Kabul bejho... India became Asahisnu
Nonsense debate
Mullah Dalrymple has lived as in India s never written for ages and ha
Never written a thing about Indic philosophy , he supported the suppression of a book . I doubt that he would be open to a debate
Headmaster ka baccha...yaad hai sabko😎😎
They have changed the goal now, ealier it used to be go to Pakistan now it is go to Afghanistan
william apni kitab par kaafi mehnat karte hai isliye unki kitaba padne may maza bhi aata hai . mere favorite writers may say ek hai.
So the Norman’s conquered England, as did the Vikings, what is their relevance today? French boots on the UK? Why are you harping on pre Islamic history, it has no relevance. With Pakistani help Hindutva troops will be mincemeat . Karzai is a turn coat. Dalrymple, with a soft corner for Hindutva, trivializes the struggle of the entire Afghan people . Were the first and second world wars tribal? Germans, French and English? What nonsense !
William knows what he’s talking about
great authors can't talk
EVEN TALIBAN RETURNED... BURKHA DUTT WILL NEVER RETURN? 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
I m sure Barkha hates hearing about barberic rules of islamists this author is repeatedly citibg.
shit man, 20 years and the afghan army didnt know how to use their american weapons???? what sort of analysis is this
He said the weapons contractors have left. It's sort of like the tv 📺 company support has left or is defunct and they are complex weapons.
I find Bharkha to be highly irritating..just personal opinion
Great to have Hindutva troops on the ground in Afghanistan. With Pakistani help they will be mincemeat.
All told ... Hindutva RSS Bharat Baniya has lost its moolah in Afghanistan ...
As a Loser, penniless, Gambler its been thrown out on to the street by the bouncers ... Can't show his face at home ... It is now sitying on the side-walk throwing tantrums, hoping for some miracle ...
That is what all the MOJO-Dutt invective, vitriol, crying, shrieking ins all about ...
Inshalulla TTP will bring shari'ah in Pakistan 😭
Super knowledgeable author. Super dumb interviewer. She needs to let the guest speak. The limelight is not on her.
Can u go to hindu houses in Afghanistan n report brutalness to them ? Or atleast go to Muslim houses n report ???
Why don't you go and report if you have so much sympathy for them?
@@kushanshah8040 wish I could..but I never went even in kashmir..barkha usually goes everywhere around the world...hence giving her few tips if it helps her ?
America is like a school kid who failed all his school exams, and was hiding this fact from his parents. America never ever passed a single subject. Sham on you wasting all those years.
@@mr.gaming6277 now china is the most successful, they have lifted 700 million out of poverty, their infrastructure is way superior than America, they have emerged as a world power in the world and in our region.
@@mr.gaming6277 yes, what I said is true, as your competitor it has done way better than you. Now, after America gone from this region. You will have to fend for yourself. What it means is you have to do what China say. That includes Pakistan.
@@mr.gaming6277 yes, but Pakistan will use this oppertunity to settle old scores, China has and will squeeze India.
@@mr.gaming6277 I live in Sydney, everyone is learning Chinese. And chines have learned Urdu. India better get ready for some pain for next 50 years.
When America left Afghanistan, Taliban attacked Kabul just like India had attacked state of Deccan when British left lol. 'Nizaam' ruler of Deccan ran away just like Ashraf Ghani ran away hehe. Natha Singh (Afghans) and Prem Singh (India) r one and same thing. Only Pak r nice people hehe.
asking a british guy the history of the region is like asking a nazi to talk about "what really happened in WW2" What nonsense...
The fact that he's a historian, researcher, widely travelled, empathetic & a remarkable scholar doesn't count for anything? Just that he's british is of utmost importance. Maybe look in the mirror to see who is the one with the narrow bigoted mind.
This women looklike 👽 alien
if it is legitimate for BJP for trying to make India into a Hindu rashtra based on Manu Smriti than why it not ok for Taliban to make Afghanistan into a muslim nation based on Sharia?
The speed of Taliban taking over Afghanistan also proves they have greater legitimacy among Afgan population then the previous regime had.
Are you insane ?? I think your brain is in your knees. .you are compareing a duely elected bjp govt with terrorist group Taliban? If you think bjp is making india hindu rashtra then go to Afghanistan..don't be oversmart
Good point raised.the big difference is that with taliban it's sheer force while with bjp it's deceit and falsehood and lies.
@@cheekukoul6432: Wining an election is no justification for the merit of a plociy
@@senguptasaynTrue, means are different
Dalrymple, where do you get your information? Just spinning theories manufactured in UK think tanks. Have you talked to the Taliban? Did they say they were a Pashtun movement ? Or fighting occupation because of their etnicity?
Hindu woman interviewer should look at the state of misogyny and rape culture with deep roots in Hindu culture, the lynching and cultural genocide of minority Muslims. The terrible atrocities and occupation of Jammu and Kashmir should have you hang your head in shame for all times
Charkha butt
🐕🐕😀😀😀
U r doing discussion & analysis with prejudice. Plz do as modern civilised journalists.
Why is India so paranoid about Taliban.? It is a powerful country, with such strong arm forces plus all powerful present Govt....so ' WHY.
Then, you go to Afghanistan in taliban regime if you feel safe.
@@Santoshbandagi81 ...
THATS ALL YOU GUYS SAY ALL THE TIME.....WHY DONT YOU GUYS TAKE AWAY THE INDIANS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD??? THERE ARE SO MANY HERE IN SOUTH AFRICA
Overstating the role of ISI to please his Indian readers. The guy is a businessman, not a historian.
Barkha dutt the worst journalist.. paison ke liye kitne bhi niche gir sakti hai..
They are given women rights barkha should stay there for 2 months and settle there ministereal births