This is an excellent video to share along with your great insights. I was someone who always knew I wanted to go to college: For the experience, the education, and with the plan to make a better future for myself. It paid off tremendously on all counts. However, and as you state, it's not for everyone. Also as you state, there is high value in all trades, especially now. I'm with you about having a work ethic. It matters now more than ever. Things can't get done if no one cares or has follow through. Thank you for taking the time to share your very practical/common sense observations. Cheers, Ardith
I commented the same thing. The OP actually responded to my comment saying something essentially to the effect of well that sounds like a personal problem, it never happened to me
I am currently being bullied out of quitting trade school bahaha Its batshit insane just how personal these godforsaken people get when their actions don't even help their cause
@@Kawhisexual So I work in the fire sprinkler field. It's part of construction. However I am in the service side of the field. Meaning we do repairs and inspections. 8 months ago, while doing an inspection, I found several sprinkler heads that weren't compliant with fire sprinkler code. They basically had to be replaced. This creates money for the company if the building owner wishes to use us to correct the problem. One of the sprinkler heads that I reported was going to be a tough repair. It was just in a "tight spot", but it still needed to come out. One of the guys within my company that was sent out to do the repair, was pissed that he had this hard repair. Guy was convinced that I deliberately set him up to look bad. So for 3 months this guy started a smear campaign against me to make me look bad to management. Keep in mind, in all of this. That guy never fixed the deficient sprinkler head. He just wanted an easy job to do for that day. He basically lied to the building owner about the sprinkler head being okay and that it didn't need to be replaced just to get out of a difficult repair.
@@nicholasevans9627 thank you for sharing your experience.. its just really funny how the personnel in the trade industry goes out of their way to kick out people who care and are eager to do right things and they turn around and complain about how they don't have enough skilled people.. its just so ironic
Trade unions are hard to get into also you usually have to know someone to get in. I tried back in 2017 and they told me there was 4 year wait in my area for any apprentice. Which is surprising when all you hear on the news is we don't have enough people in the trades. I had experience in framing, drywalling and fences/decks.
That’s what I’ve been told by the carpenters union and the iron workers union. Put in applications at companies and not a single call back or want someone with 5 years worth of experience.
@@beltedsleet It’s because all middle-upper management in all jobs, white collar or blue collar consists of boomers who, as you should know, are the most selfish, entitled generation in the past 100 years
Worked my ass off for a small construction company of 3 dudes, was the gopher, 128lb 5’5 tiny man carrying floor Joyce’s and cinder blocks all day. The bullying was quite frankly to the point where I was about to do something that would have me in prison if I didn’t leave, the pay was 12$ an hour, and I was a 1099. The trades suck ass even my boss said I was the hardest working 18 year old he’s ever seen and still treated me like shit. 7 months in I left, now work a sales job making 150k a year, the money is in sales work.
I hear a good amount of stories like yours. Sorry you had that experience in the trades. Heard many horror stories in sales as well. I tried to point people towards a skilled trade rather then general construction.
@@ThePasturedHomestead sales has been amazing, I don’t care if I deal with angry people at a door, I never see them again. But getting yelled at all day actually makes me work worse not better because I’m just worried about getting yelled at and not the work 🤣 get to meet lots of types of people and actually bring in enough money for the company to where I am not treated like a resource or a replaceable, not for everyone you gotta be a bit hoohoo to do a good job as it is a bit manipulative and requires a ton of ambition and people skills. Still I miss putting siding up that actually was so fun.
@@Managementsheltontactical The worst part about the trades is we have to do sales and hard manual labor. Im a polite and well spoken journeyman electrician and all of my customers are stingy and disrespectful. If i said no to their lowballing i lose the work and dont eat. My mom pulls probably 100-150k a year selling high end furniture in a nice air-conditioned building stocked with an espresso machine, drinks, and frequently catered lunches. I told her i have to do her job on top of my own job while getting paid significantly less. I also asked " how would you feel if after you made the sale on that $2000 couch you had to speed down to the warehouse, disassemble it, load it up, and move it three floors up in the customers mansion without damaging anything?". The guys doing it are paid 15-20 an hour.
People always talk about plumbers and welders. Mechanics get paid shit and treated even worse. Other trades are not appealing to gen z and millennials, either because of two simple reasons: You don't get paid and you don't get laid.
@@unc1221exactly this. Gen z guy here and I worker with all older guys no matter where I go and both ages young and old men would prosper so much if we could just pay and be done and go back to our work and life but nope that takes control away from them. World is too corrupt
The same Boomers that told us that a college degree was the key to financial prosperity are now telling us to drop everything and go into the trades cause that’s where the money is at… is it really any surprise why we’re skeptical?
No one is telling you to do anything. You have a brain between your ears. Figure it out, make a decision, and take responsibility for your life regardless of how unfair life is. Even if we paid everyone exactly the same, why would it be fair some get to work in easy jobs and others in hard jobs? Why is it fair some people live in cold winter cities and others in nice places with beaches and warm weather? Life is not fair, so suck it up and get on with it.
I keep hearing how great the trades are and how great the pay is, and yet most of the tradespeople i see in the comments are always complaining about work culture conditions, low pay, and toxic environments to work in. So it appears to me all these pro-trade videos are propaganda.
@user-cc5wm3ps4f Truth. I'm gen z and the work culture I'd horrible. I keep getting bullied despite showing up in time every day, always willing to learn. I rarely make mistakes too. Regret educating me for this trade.
Define "treated like shit"? If you are looking for a feminine office like work environment with daily meetings for hugs, sing alongs, etc. then you probably should be applying for an office job.
@@ickster23they probably mean vulgarity and verbal/physical abuse. Most people want to show up to work, shut up, do work, and go home. Most people don’t want to deal with other people’s BS.
@@Quafuple_Bonjular You define a sterile communist style of workplace. Building and other traditionally masculine jobs often require teamwork. Men also traditionally "chuck shit" at each other as a way of cementing a team. Yes, it can go too far, but conversely, eliminating it so as to not offend a few people is a greater negative. Same as pranks. There are malicious pranks and there are inclusive pranks. Those who are hyper sensitive and those on the left focus on malicious pranks and work to create a dour, miserable workplace. Here is a great example of an inclusive prank. We had a young sailor on our ship and it was his birthday. We made up a story that work needed to be done on the mast, and for safety to those below he needed to empty his pockets of cell phone, wallet, keys etc. Once up the mast in the bosn's chair, we then lowered him down, but not to the deck. Instead, we dipped him into the ocean then hauled him out and presented him with a gift and a cake for his birthday. The smile on his face was amazing. Many today would have PTSD for life over this, and the victimhood cult would have a temper tantrum, but this "harrassment" helped cement the team and was a very position be experience.
I will speak about the trades in my country. Here it seldom pays a good salary. The work is hard and sometimes backbreaking with a lot of heath issues as you get older (I've seen 65 year olds in office jobs, but never in trade jobs). You also have more chances of getting a crappy boss/employer and colleagues who, not only will not teach your or help you, but they'd also let you make mistakes just to see you getting fired. Trades are only good if you: 1) learn a few tricks and go abroad 2) do freelancing while also having the job (and stealing some of the clients from your trade company)
You can make a living as a self- employed tradesman doing private work - as long as you don't mind no holiday or sick pay, no pension, and having to provide your own van and tools. I've avoided site work like the plague.
Well said. A friend of mine took over the HVAC company his father started and recognized what he had. He always says, "People look down on the trades, but without them they'd be living in a hot, dark house crapping in buckets."
Not always. Many appreciate the workers in hard jobs in the same way they appreciate those in dirty jobs. They're happy someone's doing the job because the person knows they couldn't operate a saw all day or stomach handling garbage 5 days a week.
Because apprenticeships are hard to get, and we all didn't have fathers teaching us these things as teenagers. They kept saying go to college so we wouldn't have aching back and knees in our 30s and 40s. I had to learn how to pressure wash on my own. No mentor whatsoever. The guys that i reached out to were selfish and condescending. Most of the older guys in the trades are bullies.
There's barely any apprenticeship where I'm at in Montreal, they expect people to have at least a year or 2 worth of experience to be an apprentice. 10 job postings for most trades and you're telling me there's a shortage. Good thing I did the research rather than just going in.
Having a father (or equivalent male role model) to mentor you is huge: most of the successful tradesmen that I've met were guided into it by their dads starting in childhood -- not necessarily in the same trade, but something adjacent (e.g. an electrician father guiding his son into plumbing or roofing, or even just a handy father giving his son the confidence to work with tools & self-teach). It's why there's such a hazing culture, because to them everything about it is "obvious" since they've been doing it forever & they've forgotten what it was like not to know it.
@@ryh5169 I mean, just say that they didn't have daddy to baby them into it like the mentor did. Since their boomers it will probably induce a lead induced rage but that's a win.
As a Gen Z/Millenial/Zillenial who did get into auto mechanics and auto repair, its just not worth it anymore. Inflation sucks and it has made it to where the pay just doesn't justify the cost of your health and labor.
I transitioned from agriculture to construction (carpentry). Here in Canada, there are just as many toxic people in the industry as the USA. Were it possible, I'd get my training in Germany, Switzerland, or Japan. At least tradespeople (for the most part) actually care in those countries. They want to focus on their job and foster the healthy relationships in their lives. Thankfully, I have found good people to learn under.
I'm 52. My dad was in construction and told me not to go into it. You're correct in your assessment, but in my dad's day, wives weren't working jobs with health benefits. Nowadays, households have someone with benefits which allows for someone to be in a trade that doesn't provide benefits.
Bad advice. The profit you made working dawn until dusk was better then what I'm getting the SAME thing. Profit margins have been decreasing forever. Why the hell do you think so few companies are taking apprentices?
Actually it’s great advice. There’s two types of tradesmen. Those that show up and go home and those that show up to learn, grow, and strive for greatness, then go home. Doesn’t matter what kind of economy exists, the guy that wants to show up and go home isn’t going to be successful. You sound like that kind of guy. I made 120k a year working for a company from 8-4, 5 days a week while some guys made $40k a year putting in the same amount of time. The only person at fault is the one not working hard, expanding their knowledge and striving for greatness. Some guys like to complain about the world and others like to grip the world by the horns and succeed.
@@ThePasturedHomestead 🤣 I own the company, and I work close to 70 hours a week in the busy season and will move 35ish grand in materials a month on average by myself. There's a reason trades are dying. The replacement ratio is 7:1 in the USA. The wages are shit outside of union and large cities. You can grab all the horns you want. If you can't find quality employees you're just as stuck as the next schmuck.
This video isn’t entirely accurate when it comes to depicting the trades. I went to school and got a degree in electric/electronics. The only job I was able to land was at my local school system as an electrician making $16.84/hr…trades are not always a guarantee for a good paying job. At least not here in southeastern Kentucky
I worked in construction (carpentry) for 15 years, I got out of the trades because of No retirement No health benefits competition with illegals who work for way less Debilitating/fatal injury risk No unions No sick days "if you do it right" actually applies to contractors and employers making the job market viable, which they don't You can be self employed if you are a good -salesman -accountant -hiring manager -Estimator -Collector If you're not ALL these things, your self-employment will be upside down within 2 years The trades used to be good because of unions, but without leverage, they become extremely risky. Getting out of the trades and moving into something else if you get hurt is extremely difficult. This is why the trades aren't pursued.
Dude average pay for a plumber in my area... 25.64 an hour... Software sales average pay rate 50.48 an hour... I won't even lookup the difference in injuries or lifetime earnings.
@@rustym.shackelford5546 exactly! Yet they complain about the trades needing more workers to replace the older fellas retiring. We went and learned the basics to get the job and now no one will hire us…sounds just like what happens when folks attend a 4 year university or college and doesn’t get hired for years on end.
If I’m 50 and still crawling around u made some poor decisions in my life. Don’t go into the trades to be a grunt till you’re 50 and broken. Go into the trades, learn the trade well, start a business and eventually run it while everyone does the work. It’s not the trades fault that a 50 year old didn’t plan their life out.
@@ThePasturedHomestead Fair point but honestly what's the percent of tradesmen in this situation at 50(i mean with a business and who don't have to do "grunt" work at 50) ? I'm probably wrong, but i feel like the majority don't have this possibility.
@@edouard9867 they absolutely have this possibly. But I agree, a lot of people don’t aspire to own a business. That’s not the trades fault though. The same could be said for a desk job, after 50 years of never moving your body, you’re going to have pains in other areas. The problem is in the attitude of the employee, and that extends to all fields, including those that went to college.
@@edouard9867 even if that 50 year old still works for the same company for 25 years, that’s fine. But hopefully by then they’ve at least worked their way up in the company to be a manager, assistant manager, etc. But that takes a plan from the start, some people just don’t do that. They don’t think about the fact that they’ll be old some day and should build their skill set to grow or that they should save money and invest so they don’t have to rely on the little social security money they will receive.
I was a tradesman for over 35 years, and your damn right. I told my kids to stay away. It's a dead-end job for most. Sure, there can be a lot of money. But there are many times when there is no money and no job. 200,000 a year? Maybe some do, but that is the exception, not the rule. If you are not self-employed or in management at a good company by 50 to 55, you get thrown out with the bathwater. You use up your body in the performance of your job and most tradesmen over 55 are only working on a drinking problem.
5 years as a carpenter. I started late at age 28 after having worked dead-end jobs. Now I get good money to build beautiful things out of trees all day. It's peaceful and I'm proud of what I do.
I'm 29 leaving the warehouse scene, I got excepted into the construction ready program here in Atlanta. Start class after labor day, im super excited and willing to put in the work to find out what exactly i want to do in the fields. Main goal is heavy machinery. But I'm willing to learn just about what ever until that time comes. I love that there's so many avenues that I don't even know where to start. Wish me luck and God bless 🙌
For real! I own my own electrical business and between too much competition, not enough work, and the current state of the economy, I haven’t had a full week’s work in nearly 4 months. Builders are weary of building because houses aren’t selling. Thing no one mentions about trade work is it’s feast or famine.
Glad i studied Chemistry and got a Bachelor's in it. Its like a "high end trade." I have an office space and use my hands. I never sweat. AC on blast, no sweat, good benefits, near 6-figures, all good.
You are correct. In the trades if you apply yourself you can excel at a very fast rate. You also are around other trades and that has many benefits in the long run. When a man balances his mind and hands he can go along ways and is less dependent on others.
I'm glad that young man had a good experience in the trades. My experience was the complete opposite. I owned a business, but hard times forced me to pivot. At the advice of a relative, I joined the glazier trade. I worked hard, was punctual, and eager to learn. Unfortunately, most of the guys in the trades are pos. They're more interested in being an asshole than getting the work done. After a couple of years of that nonsense, I pivoted again. This time, I made the right choice. I now work in the aerospace industry. At my new career, the pendulum swung in the opposite direction. My co-workers are educated and eager to teach new hires. I no longer work with toxic people in a toxic environment. I love it.
It does seem the happy medium of trades is somewhere that requires more than a fourth grade education so you’re not working with drug addicts, felons, or just straight up bitter losers
After checking the comments. Everyone agrees. Your crazy! My friend was a Plummer for 4 years. Never made more than 24 an hour. Now he sells plumbing equipment. As a business owner I can assure you… your numbers are for OWNERS not WORKERS. Your family owned their own companies so you had a leg up from your peers from their education and guidance.
This dudes a nepobaby, he makes some points but his experience has been way more positive because of his early experience with tools and the fact his parents own their own businesses in the trade already, he has such a leg up it’s not even funny.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 first spell right plumber if you are self employed plumber you can easily make 80 to 100 a hour depending on what job it is . Don’t work for someone work for yourself
You are so right! Around us there are not many schools that have vocational training. The push is to go to college or be good at sports and get scholarships to college. My brother still farms the family farm in Pennsylvania, but there isn't anyone to take it over. My son is a general contractor at 31 that not only builds and renovates houses, apartments and farms and can also do tree work. He has moved to South Carolina to his fiancee's beef and horse farm. The one thing about going into trades is there are always jobs. Thank you! Hopefully young people heed your advice! You are very mature and practical for your generation!
Sorry man the statistics don't match the incomes you are shooting out there for wages the average plumber makes NO WHERE NEAR 200,000$ let alone 100,000$ year that is utter bs. If you are the owner of a decent sized plumbing company yeah but most plumbers don't own the company. Also to make money in the trades you HAVE to work a ton of OT that's when you actually make decent money. My friend made 80,000$ a year as an electrician running the entire job working 70 to 80 hours a week. Well guess what he burned out and now only works 40 hours a week and makes no where near that kind of money. Most trades afford you a very average middle class wage that's why nobody wants to go into them. Also most guys that work in the trades are pretty physically broke down by the time they retire. You are talking about people who OWN companies not the workers. If it were true that plumbers make 100,000 dollars a year people WOULD go into the trades. Look it up yourself the average wage for plumbers is like 50 to 60K which is average.
I strongly disagree with you and hope no one sees your comment as truth. You must not have watched my video very closely. I said “that you could easily make upwards of $200k a year as a plumber, and most of the guys I worked with were making $100-120k a year with benefits/time off etc”. That’s too bad about your electrician buddy. I’ve worked with guys that made $50k a year while I was making $120k working for the same company. It all depends on your drive and the amount of effort you put into your job. If your buddy was making $80k a year working 70 hours a week that would be an hourly pay of around $23/hr. I’m sorry to say but your buddy needs to go get a different job, or start his own company. Also, when I owned my business I was grossing $500k a year, and profiting $250k a year by myself with one van. I’m telling you, if I can do it, anyone can. It all depends on how hard you want to work and how smart you are. My advice to anyone working an underpaid job is to go find a better one and if you can’t find a job that will make you more then start your own business. That’s the quickest way to being a millionaire 👍
Also… my local plumbing union here in Kentucky is paying a two year journeyman plumber $56 an hour. That’s over 100k for someone that’s only done this for 2 years. All the local residential plumbing companies are paying $80-120k a year to start for two year journeyman plumbers.
@@ThePasturedHomestead You can make any numbers you want. Yes UNION tradesmen make big money I'm not going to argue with you on that. Please do yourself a favor and look up the statistics in your state for what an average plumber makes in my state the average plumber makes 26 dollars an hour. The average master makes 37 dollars an hour. And that's OK but those are real numbers not these pie in the sky numbers your throwing out there. The union jobs in the trades are sweet no argument hear but most plumbers aren't lucky enough to land the union job. Also where I live the guys who own the plumbing companies say there business is really slow like repairs only nobody doing home improvements they aren't making 200k a year. Also they won't hire you as an apprentice here unless you've done trade school it is really really hard to find someone who will take you on as an apprentice off the street. Great for you that you have done so well but that's absolutely an exception as are those sweet union jobs. But advice for anyone in the trades get into Union absolutely like in the trades thats where the good money is. I live in a richer state then you In think you'll find the average pay for a plumber in your state is lower than here. Not to mention in the trades you work with a lot of alcoholic trumptards for real thats my friend who is a commercial electrician's biggest complaint. Ok he makes 60 a year 30 an hour which is decent but no fan of his co workers. Your looking at this from only your situation and point of view. Look up the real numbers the trades are very middle class jobs. Is the pay trending upward absolutely. But I looked the NUMBERS up I didn't make them up or use only the highest paying example like your doing.
@@ThePasturedHomestead CT and we are not enjoying the housing boom that the southern states are so for the tradesmen business can be a struggle to come by at the moment. So for your state it says the average licensed plumber makes 23 an hour. But I believe you that companies are paying that much because it's really hard to find enough tradesmen in the places that are enjoying a housing boom. But facts are facts are for your state 23 an hour is the average. And as you know like most industries the trades really enjoy booms and there are are also busts. So when things are booming pay is good and OT is plentiful and when there is a bust your collecting unemployment. Like my buddy who is a commercial electrician is busy right now but residential can be challenging to find jobs and keep steady work coming in.
I made more money in the trades than most people I know. Wages are great, just have to be a hard worker work good wages. Also can’t settle for crappy jobs with crappy wages.
@ThePasturedHomestead your full of shit and I got house truck dirtbike land etc. Trades suck ass and the wages are dog shit. All stem field degrees pay more and the average debt to get em is like mid 30k which is nothing when your early 20s making six figures.
I used to work commercial HVAC, and the foreman there wouldn’t wanna give the chance to learn. They had me sweeping and picking up stuff just because i looked young and had no experience. Long story short I got let go for refusing to drive 48 miles to a job to pick up trash and sweep. After that I quit the trade, after not finding a job since most jobs require “experience” and went back to my old job in healthcare.
Electrical apprenticeship here in FL is $13.62 to start and tops at $24.40. You’re making way more off these videos than I would in the electrical field. Check your facts bud
Apprenticeship is what you do while learning. Compare that to the negative income you get while going to college. Journeyman and master electricians make good money and they don't go into debt to acquire their skills.
I remember the Florida economy. Shitty built on tourism. If you are not a salesman and a good one, you ain't eating. I will say, if you own the company, you can pay yourself better than any other employer will.
Great message! I grew up in the auto collision repair business, I worked in the industry for fifteen years and then taught it for twenty seven years. Hundreds of my students went into the industry. I retired six years ago and I now homestead. And because my dad instilled in me "never pay someone to do what you can easily do". I've taught myself to garden, raise animals for meat, eggs, and milk. Learned to to make cheese and soap from my goat milk. Along with that you have to learn to do things around your property like carpentry, plumbing and electrical as well as landscaping. I've literally learned more in the last eight years than I did the previous twenty.
Homesteading is a great thing. You have to be “everybody” to get the job done. Great for teaching kids too! I told ashlyn “we are buying lots of land so we never get old on the couch” lol
Talk to successful blue collar workers who are older than 50 or so and you will find that the vast majority of them did something similar to this....they worked in their trade until they were 40 or so and then had to find a way to use that experience outside of doing the work to earn a living....because it is simply too physically demanding and employers simply will not hire or retain older workers in the trades. It works out great for the few who can parlay their experience into another career path like teaching but those positions are few and far between meanwhile many tradesmen too old to do the work are not few and far between
I tried, they wouldn't take me for apprenticeships because I'm too old (26). Everyone offered low money, warned me not to get into the trades, and offered much less than I make in my current linguistics career path. I think if you have family or friends who can get you in, it's a great and sustainable career. But why would I pay to go to trade school and restart my life, when they don't WANT us in the trades? As someone else said, propaganda.
As a millennial I'd say it's two main reasons we don't get into the trades or if we do we don't stay long. 1 when we were growing up in the 90s and 00s we were all told by these same older people who are complaining now that you need to go to college and if you don't you'll be a homeless bum. I remember in 7th grade when someone said they wanted to be a plumber because their dad was one and the teacher told him it wasn't a good idea. 2 when you get into the trades there is a culture of hazing and unnecessary BS. I've been on jobs and wanted to learn and I would ask questions on things I didn't know or would just ask for clarification on how to do certain job and the older employees that were supposed to teach you either flat out refuse to tell you or scream at you when you come to them respectfully. Then they would get mad when you mess up. If they would have cut the BS from the jump and just advised me we could have saved time and money.
Thanks for sharing this, my son is 17 and is worried about what he wants to do. But like you said his dad's side the family is all about university and college being the only way to success. But I keep telling him that if he wants trades you can be trained for a quarter of the price and the starting pay is well above what some college level careers pay. This is a great perspective, for our young people!!!!
Great advice! You are a very mature and practical thinking twenty-six year old. All trades are in high demand where we live. Unfortunately many, thankfully not all, members of the younger generations don’t want to do manual labor. We have five grandsons, no granddaughters, and we will be sharing this video with them. Also, I want to let you know that we will continue following you and Ashlyn on your journey. We have watched all the videos you’ve created thus far. Wishing you all the best in life! Dave and Lin Harvey
Thank you so much Dave and Lin! What a wonderful comment. I hope I can help inspire your grandsons to get into a trade if that’s the route that they want to take. They have really improved my life and opened up a world of opportunities! I hope you enjoy any future videos, thank you for watching 😃
I'm Gen Z and really happy I went into the trades. I went to college early when I was 16 and graduated early at 19. I came out and was set up to go to medical school. But i wasn't happy. The people are all depressed going to class and half of them, myself included, just wanted to make enough money to have a family and enjoy life. I then to the shock and horror of my family and friends turned down going to medical school and decided to go into HVAC and appliance mechanics. Went to "school" for a year at 20. Got a job and worked there till I was 24. It sucked the first year and a half as I made almost nothing. Was still living with my disappointed parents. But eventually got a raise and promotion and suddenly made the same as my mom at the time. Then a year later made as much as my dad. Now at 26, i have my own company and I make more then all my siblings and parents make combined. It's hard work, but eventually I think I'll sell my company after a few more years and who knows? Start another trade or maybe go back to trying for medical school?
Two of my neighbors were plumbers and you are right, they make great incomes. Both owned their own businesses. One commercial & one residential. 6 years ago it cost $175 just to show up at the door before any labor or parts
It sucks around here. I really wanted to do one, maybe follow in my father's footsteps and go to school to be a carpenter, but trades here are horrendous. Pay nothing, hard to get work, yet apparently we have a shortage in our area. Only one you might luck into even finding work is a CDL, other than that, even electrician, which my brother in law did, couldn't get anything. Same goes for all the others.
@ThePasturedHomestead In Canada, so may not be as applicable, but Newfoundland and Labrador, specifically Newfoundland. Seems everywhere else in the country has better prospects for it though. Healthcare is the main thing here. Trade school (all employers want here) is around 16k on average here.
@@bradystuckey3813 I can’t speak on Canada. Seems the economics in Canada are very hard on the trades and in general. The US has a lot of opportunity in the trades
I had a job opportunity to be trained and do roofing for $55/hr, then I was told, upon receiving the application, that I would be started out at $18-$20. No. Now they can call me back when they'll start me at $58-$60.
Why the hell would I work in the trades at 17 an hour when target is hiring at 23 an hour. I can also just use my time at target to work at my degree with a more flexible schedule than a trade.
@@Redawesomeoby not everything is about money, especially in the beginning of learning a valuable skill. There will come a day when our lively hood will be decided by our skill set. You may start at 17 an hour in any given trade but you will finish at 40+ an hour and hopefully if you were smart, owning your own business as a multi millionaire
@@ThePasturedHomestead There's no guarantee of that though. Alongside that you've also got the health risks, toxic culture, and other things that will probably push you out of work in a few years with little to show for it aside from something else to put on your resume.
@@Redawesomeoby every job has health risks, toxic culture etc. it’s about how YOU treat your body in that certain job and finding a company that has a good culture. To work at a trade where you don’t take care of your back is just as bad as sitting at a desk where you don’t move all day. I’ve worked for a lot of companies, including owning my own. There were some that didn’t have a good culture, others were wonderful. I’ve had times in my career where I didn’t take care of my body and now I do because I have that knowledge. Your success in any career isn’t define by the “culture” it’s defined by how you maneuver through said culture. Contrary to popular belief (especially this generation) like ain’t happening to you, you have the choice, you have the free will, you have the audacity.
Amen! I encouraged all for of my children to go to trade schools. Both of my boys are roofers, plumbers, construction..they are in their 30's. Both my girls are nurses.
Not only does it pay well, it pays you every time you can do a project, repair, install. My husband saved us hundreds of thousands of dollars with all of his skilled knowledge.
Go to community college for a couple of years and do some trade work part time if so inclined. You can get into trades at 20-22 years old, but most adults struggle to go back to school. Your more likely to regret not getting a “degree you’ll never use” than to regret not jumping into a trade at 18.
I've been a plumber for 5 years and I've never made more than 50k a year. I bought into the "trades pay great" my experience has been wholly different. The money in the trades at least in my state is terrible.
Great video man. Your good character and pride in your work really shows through. I think that's what lacking for many in the industry, and judging by the comment section here, people haven't experienced those types of people in their workplace. Our society loves to tribalize. It's always us vs them, one better than the other, rather than mutual respect and recognizing we needs all kinds of work to make a vibrant society function. Hope you continue your success, and hopefully more like you enter the trades.
You really need to put on knee pads otherwise like me in later life you’ll have knee problems. Just stumbled upon your channel it’s great. Good luck in your new venture. From Devon England.
I grew up in the trades. All my family continues to work within the trades, making very good money. My nephew, in his mid thirties made over 300k last year. My youngest son (11) will start working summers this year.
Dude plumbing and electrical are heavy labor during apprenticeship. That 1st 5 years is rough in terms of tax on the body and overall health. Plumbing, HVAC, and electrical are not as rough as framing, concrete work, or carpentry but still detrimental on the body in a way that can't be compared to say software sales.
Most trade jobs won't hire without experience. I applied to a hvac company that said they badly needed people. They wouldn't hire me without at least 2 years experience.
I worked as an installer for an HVAC company and the pay still sucked 24 dollars an hour to destroy your body, no thanks. I’m in really good shape too but that crap is hard on your entire frame
People always say in these videos how great trades are and how much of a "shortage" there is but doesn't go on to say how hard they are to actually get hired into, even as an apprentice.
They are EXTREMELY easy to get into. One of the easiest jobs to start. You need 0 experience. All you need to start in a trade as an apprentice is a good work ethic and the willingness to learn.
@@maximusthegreatest every residential plumbing company and Union outfit in my area is hiring constantly and offering HUGE incentives to work for them. Washington state was the exact same as well.
Where are you? I’m Grand Rapids area applied to ibew a year or two ago, haven’t heard anything. Maybe just me but my research points to it being common.
@@maximusthegreatest I’m in KY. Brother lives up by you though. I’ve been in the trades since I was 12. Grandpa, dad, uncles, cousins all in the trades. The trades are suffering with a lack of work. I would recommend applying to multiple places. Not everyone is hiring apprentices at that moment in time
Im on the opposite side im 27 and just about everyone in my family has college and graduate degrees and even doctorates but i went into the trades. i went the college for 2 years right after highschool and spent a lot of money not going anywhere i got into cooking for almost 10 years and now i am a merchant mariner (sailor on cargo ships takners roro's ect) the trades can offer you a lot of money at a fraction of the tuition most trades even give you ojt and its a skill that if cultivated will stick with you for the rest of your life. there is definitely a lot of stigma with trade jobs from parents who see college as the only path to success but im happy and im part of a union so i get all the health and retirement benefits and make enough money in 6 months to support myself an a family if i decide to have one. I may go back to college some day but im happy where i am now
The skills learned will stick with you as an earning tool as long as your body is physically able to do the work. For all but a select few this begins to slow at 35 and by 50 almost no one can still do the work at a rate that is acceptable to contractors. Union contractors have to sign an agreement that about 20% of their workforce wil be 50 years old or older because most humans simply can not do the work past 50 at an acceptable pace and will struggle to earn a living for the last 20% of their careers. These are facts that are easily verified through DOL stats.....the trades are great for young folks but most young folks eventually become old folks...
I'm 43 and the last generation of tradesman for sure it's very rare to see anyone younger then me on job sites and if you do see a kid around there normally useless and don't want to work even the least little bit and surely not learn to advance themselves
Where i currently work as a carpenter we have tons of accidents. Almost no safety at all and i hate seeing the foreman treat me a guy his own age like junk because i try to stress safety to the young guys. In seven months at this place i was there during 3 lost time accidents, countless minor injury accidents and a few property damage accidents. Heck today we had a guy close an overhead door on a moving forklift. Made one heck of a bang. Just a month or so ago a guy a few feet from me lost some of his eyesight permanently. Hes young around 26 but wasn't taught any safety so thought safety glasses slowed him down and were a waste of time. He got a screw stuck in his eye in a freak accident and in a panic he yanked it out. When you hear someone scream in pain like that it sticks with you. Oh and in this video i would love to know where this guy is working. I have never had a trade job with holiday pay until my new job. And we get 2 weeks a year. If we stay at the company for 20 years we still only get 2 weeks a year vacation. The trade off is its regular employment not temp untill the job is completed then you get laid off. Trade off is lower pay. So overall the trades are brutal on the body, most companies pay low wages (unions are near impossible to get into but they pay well), little to no job stability, very few companies will give you holiday pay and zero paid sick days like office staff can normally get. And as many said... Lots of bullies, lots of drug addicts, lots of thieves in the trades. So be prepared to buy new tools if you cant watch yours closely. Oh, did i mention you supply your own hand tools on most jobs... Or get supplied busted up junk to use by the company.
My son is in retail management and I wish he would explore a trade because I know he would make much more money and enjoy it more than what he is doing now. It would suit his personality better. My oldest daughter is a teacher and loves it. my youngest daughter is a PA , also loves it but has a boatload of student debt. I am proud of how hard they work but would be just as proud if they had gone into a trade.
Uh, one reason we aren’t going into the trades is because in the next few years we will all be 30 and over. I am over forty. Yes, people, realize that the millennials are now getting older. Most of us are past the point of GOING into anything else. It isn’t easy to totally change your life’s direction and do something completely new for a job or career when you are right in the middle of life, with a marriage, kids, scraping to have a house for them to live in, etc. we aren’t college age anymore, why do people keeps acting life we are? Maybe because they aren’t really paying attention.
I almost went into the trades, but had a college opportunity I couldn't turn down. I've spent my career as a hand on engineer, and can say you are definitely right about the quality of work in the trades. If someone will follow instruction, and can pass a drug/background check, there are many employers who will gladly hire them. Drugs is the worst problem. I've seen so many people fired for drug/alcohol use. Government suppliers of "safety critical"components must drug test. Other employers can't allow anyone failing a drug drive anything (like a man lift).
A) If you're an Engineer, please be a good one. I'm a Pipefitter/Plumber and I see so much bad Engineering on a daily basis and I tell the jobsite Engineers that something won't work, and they tell me that it will...then I install it properly and it fails (just like I predicted it would), then they blame me for installing it wrong. 2) Yes, there is a drug/alcohol problem in the Trades. It is quite unfortunate. To be fair, I think that there is a drug/alcohol problem in society in general. I know people from childhood who would have never done drugs then, now are super into them. It's just the culture that we live in.
I agree with everything that you said except for the trade school bit. Some states require Apprentices to complete schooling AND work hours in order to become a Journeyman. My home state of Idaho is. The state of Idaho requires 576 hours of Schooling at a regionally accredited trade school (minimum) and 8000 hours of working hours in said field (minimum) in order to become a Journeyman. States like California don't have the schooling requirement, you can simply work for a shop for four years, and then you're a Journeyman. Each state is different. Also if people go the Union route, schooling is required there.
My father was a Navy Seabee for 20 years and became a general contractor after he retired from the US Navy. He worked in construction until his 80's. I was adopted by him when I was 5 years old and he was 50 years old. The only thing he taught me was basic labor stuff that had no long term value other than knowing how to be a laborer. I joined the US Army when I was 18 years-old then I went to college when I got out. I started a business.
Everyone complaining about pay don’t get it. When they say get into the trades you’ll make tons of money, no, you’ll make an alright amount of money. When they refer to high pay that’s if you do side jobs or start your own company. Very little tradesman make $100,000 or more by being hourly.
I experienced the same thing when I was a teenager. My Father was a Plumber and he constantly discouraged me from pursuing a career in blue collar trades. I’m 54 years old, this mentality existed before I was born.
The reason no one wants to go into the trades is a pure economic issue. The money simply isn't that good. I know it seems great but in a 54 year career (from 18-72) the ages earned will not be what the wages earned in a career with a similar amount of training and experience will be because the trades do not want you past the age of 45 or so when other industries actually start paying top dollar. For every electrician who is still earning a good living at 55 in the trade, working with their tools and not in management, there are 1000 who worked in the trade until they were about 35 or so and their body started to slow down and suddenly contractors wanted nothing to do with them. Working in the trades is a great way to earn a living between the ages of 18 and 50, if you're lucky and don't get hurt on the job or have some health issues but what are you going to do from 50-67 or 72 and retirement age? You are going to grow old and bitter if youre not able to go into management or parlay your experience and knowledge into a less physically demanding career. Wages have not kept up with demand, period, that is why there is a shortage of tradesmen. Wages have failed to keep up with demand because the industry has no use for most people after age 50 or so when they are at the top of the earning potential because they are no longer able to do the demanding work. If you going to gamble at 18 on a being able to earn a living beyond age 50 the trades are a LOUSY option.....they are far better from 18-50 than just about any career but the drop off when the body starts to slow down, and it will, is dramatic and very devastating. Not everyone is going to make it working for themselves....in fact almost no one who goes into the trades will. The math is there....
I’m not sure where you get these stats that you’re referring to or if maybe this was your experience in the trades. Anybody over 50 who doesn’t seem “fit” to do the job planned poorly for their career. There are so many options for someone that’s “slowing down” at an older age. You can be an instructor, project manager, branch manager, business owner, and inspector. I worked right along side guys 50-65 who kept up with me no problems. Maybe not as fast or flexible but they did a great job. Some of those guys were content staying as a worker and others worked their way up to management. You are generalizing and taking a small portion of people who didn’t plan out their career and got left on the back burner when their body failed them. I worked as a plumber for 7 years and finally decided to start my own business. My uncle worked for a company for 10 years and eventually because a project manager for 10 years, and eventually started his own successful business. My other uncle work construction his whole life, led crews, invested his money into a construction product and now doesn’t have to work. My grandpa worked at Boeing, decided to start a construction business and retired from that business to start building laundromats and storage centers. My point is that no job will give you success if you stay stagnant. Some of the population will never work their way up and will never plan our their career, that’s not the trades fault, that’s their fault. If you get into the trades, learn the skills, plan a career, you will be very successful and happy. I know because all the people above did it, and so did I. We are normal people who planned out a career. Like my grandpa always says “you better make a plan”.
Many oldtimers,fathers and uncles/grandfathers dont teach the younger generations anymore. And idc what job i have i refuse to be treated like trash lifes to short. Self employed is only way no matter what you do.
I agree with almost everything you said. My dad just retired from a lifetime of carpentry and then as a business owner building cold storage units for table grapes. He started out union then went non union pretty early in his career. My husband has been a union pipefitter for the last 25 years. It didn't cost him anything to go through the union. He got paid to work right away as a first year apprentice, and went to night school a couple nights a week for free. The benefit that he has is a paid for retirement, vacation and medical. The detrimental aspects of being union is that you can't take non union jobs on your own. My dad had much more flexibility in that aspect. Now, we have a 17 year old son who I honestly think would do better as tradesmen than going to college, knowinghis strengthsand weaknesses. Your video was really helpful to me, on looking at it from a perspective of a younger person in the workforce today. Of course it's my son's decision, but I plan on sharing your video with him. There is just so much pressure on teens to go to college today. I really appreciate your point of view. Thank you!
I Do Commercial HVAC in Arizona and I'm gonna be honest it doesn't pay well. I'm also forking out money to buy tools monthly because non union work you've gotta provide that, On top of that theres also expenses to jobsites. I'm having to pay for travel because companies love bidding on jobs on the opposite side of town so i.m sometimes commuting over an hour away unpaid paying for my own gas and mileage and still making base pay on top of paying for my own benefits out of pocket so thats like $280 a month i lose on top of $500 on gas and maintenance. It's not worth it. Companies want to pay you as little as possible and demand the most out of you. Id say if you have to sure do construction but if theres other ways to make money without going to college and spending a ridiculous amount on a degree thats the best way to go. I can see why someone wouldn't to do this line of work after doing it for 5 years now. Then the talk becomes "You can start youre own company" Not everyone should be in business for themselves nor wants to.
My Biggest regret is apply to mall jobs because I'm a teenager, I should just done trades especially with me being a technician fixing self check out machines
That’s amazing. It is art. I’ve heard that from ppl b4. Driving past a big building & able to stop & say “ my hands helped make that”. Furthermore, I’d like to emphasise on “skilled” labor, not your Home Depot under the table. Learning codes & regulations & just get experience. U can grow into management or even owner operator. Good job bro!
I'm tail end of gen x and glad to see someone in your gen who has been taught well to have a good work ethic and not afraid to do some hard work like has to be in the trades. I worked in manufacturing and was a trainer and have seen both those who have good work ethic and those who didn't from your generation around your age. They got to a point that they'd switch some younger employees to my dept and have them train with me especially those in the cooperative education program. Some of them didn't have the knowledge that it could be a good job and thought they needed to go to college in order to make good money. Much of the basics that you were talking about I explained to them as well as thinking about if it was their business how would they want employees to work. Would they want employees who showed up and worked hard doing their best to do their part in their position or would they want employees who either didn't show up or showed up late and didn't want to do the job required? There were many of these student workers who the company was ready to let go but after training with me learning work ethic while making it fun we got more done which ended up having these students not only finish their school training to get their credits but ended up giving them a job after school. It's also a matter of pairing them up with people who might be a bit older than them but willing to train them being patient and showing them how great the job can be while teaching them how to do it.
If you start out early in highschool, it can be good but once you are in your mid 20s with responsibilities, there's no point because there is no way to scale upwards faster than the typical path(Its an experienced based industry) But with school, you can go from 0 to 6 figures or close to 6 figures just by having a degree.
@@kendrickf-d6695 degrees don’t mean what they once did but only half of all the students that graduate college go into a field associated with their degree. Which means that half of the students wasted their time in college. It takes 4 years to be a licensed plumber and electrician. Usually you start at around $15-$18/hr and by the end of the 4 years you’d be making $30-$60/hr. From there you should get good at the trades, learn the business and eventually start your own business where you’ll make the most money yet. Now I’m not saying that the trades are right for everyone. I’ve worked with a lot of guys that were terrible in the trades and had 0 work ethic and wanted to skate in life, but for the people that grip the bull by the horns and work hard, the trades can be extremely lucrative
In England if you do really good at exams youre mocked for wanting to go into a trade In fact students in my school who didnt drop out & decided to go into gardening, building & plumbing were constantly ridiculed & attacked I hope you didnt have a hardtime from your peers for wanting to get into the trades because I admire what youre doing
Im 25, trades have been good to me, my 20 year old helper would disagree with me, likes to complain, doesnt like the long hours (we work 10 hours or less) or getting dirty, he has no previous experience so he gets paid helper wage, always talking about leaving and going to college, so why would i bother teaching him anything just for him to leave
@@alexchambers3034 there’s a lot of those out there. There’s a big of a plague going around the youth of this county that makes them feel like they deserve everything without giving anything in return. There are some of us out there that believe in hard work and don’t make excuses. You sound like you got your head on straight
My dad was a stationary engineer. I joined the Navy and then got out to get a bachelors in CIS. For how "short " the trades report to be of people, there is simply way too much hoop-jumping for union apprenticeships. All that effort would/has better served me in my current field. Its still overall a good idea for people who aren't going to university.
As an Externinator, I fully agree with the idea that it is satisfying to use your mind and body to contribute something meaningful to society. I don’t build houses, but I keep rats and termites away with the knowledge learned from my trade work. Very satisfying job that isn’t as gross or scary as people think it is.
the trades are still masively underpayed, seven figure salary should be the bare minimum. Just conpare the earnings of the IT people from cushy climatised offices or from home. No, you get it all wrong, theres no tradesmen because pay suck. Its a lot easier to be a doctor, programmer, lawyer etc than tradesman when you are over 50, you didnt take that into consideration. Its shitty dirty unapriciated and miserably payed careers.
I made $20 an hour when I started my plumbing career... no experience at all. Worked my way up to $120k a year working for a company, running my own truck, full benefits. Then I started my own company and did $250k profit a year. I promise you, the trades aren't the issue, its the workers. There working class that goes into trades is a much different working class that goes into being a doctor, programmer, lawyer etc. The trades take 0 experience and schooling and those other jobs require degrees. There's a lack of tradesmen because we live in a tech world. I made more money then most people I did work for, and that included a lot of google, Microsoft people.
@@Iamabot4708 You’re dead wrong and the lack of knowledge shines through. People want experience and they want local. I made more money as a plumber than the majority of people I worked for. that was in a very high end area as well. The majority of people won’t be rich and won’t be successful. That’s not the trades fault, thats the people’s fault. There’s plenty of people in the tech industry making barely 6 figures. I would recommend you do some research
@ThePasturedHomestead At the end of the day, you have to do far more work to become a successful person. If you're a skilled tradesman, then if you were to just go to college and get a degree. both physically and mentally. And since we both agree that most people aren't willing to put in the amount of effort, it is to become very successful. Why would I take the harder route. If you look at the upper quartile of both skilled tradesmen and bachelor's degree holders. Bachelor degree holders make more and work less. You can tell people what you want. But I'll be telling my kids to go to college.
Your so right bro. Coming from immigrant family my mom and dad always will tell me to go to college and get a office job. My dad is a mechanic and told me everyday when I was working with him. To not get into trades because hard labor. Went to college and wasn’t for me. I went straight to HVAC college school and got me a good starting pay for apprentice and used my skills that I learned being around my dad to get where I’m at. The trades is wide open whoever wants to get into. High demand high pay. Because nobody wants work with their hands and mind.
I work as a home remodel carpenter. Im not in a union, Ive worked for some small, mom n pop type remodel companies. The money is ok, but I’m in a HCOL area and it doesn’t add up to homeownership unless I commute 90 minutes. The coworkers are hit and miss, a few good ones, many idiots. I’m good at what I do, and lots of days I can put in my headphones and install doors or windows or cabinets or whatever and it’s totally fine and I go home and can pay my bills. What I’m worried about is the future. Most of the places I’ve worked for are terrible about benefits. No 401k matching, no assistance with health insurance, no PTO, little paid sick leave,etc. Then I look at all the guys who have been doing this for years… bad backs, bad knees, bad attitudes. Like, the money was decent when I was in my 20’s, but the long term outlook shitty. My body will be broken with 20 more years of this stuff and I’m gonna be fucked with basically no retirement plan and no assets. I’m seriously considering going to college to get an engineering degree.
I started out in trades and evolved into a desk job. I did welding and fabrication. Yeah, I made more at the desk, but you hold on to the trade stuff when it comes time to work on a house. You learn it all and also learn about permits. After doing a few projects you might think you are contractor material.
Good perspective and points. I did notice that there was not much mention on longevity. A good degree allows people to the ability to do a job even till they're 70, and they won't be exposured to as many environmental exposures. Additionally, the example with the doctor is true, but after 15, 20 years, the doctor, banker, engineer, etc. will make more over the long-term. That said, we need or tradesmen and traditional educations should not be pushed to everyone as heavily as it is. Thanks for the video.
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This is an excellent video to share along with your great insights. I was someone who always knew I wanted to go to college: For the experience, the education, and with the plan to make a better future for myself. It paid off tremendously on all counts. However, and as you state, it's not for everyone. Also as you state, there is high value in all trades, especially now. I'm with you about having a work ethic. It matters now more than ever. Things can't get done if no one cares or has follow through. Thank you for taking the time to share your very practical/common sense observations. Cheers, Ardith
Where is the high pay?
There's a lot of toxic culture in the trades. I've seen a lot of dudes get bullied into quitting. And these were dudes that were eager to learn.
I commented the same thing. The OP actually responded to my comment saying something essentially to the effect of well that sounds like a personal problem, it never happened to me
@@Thelazybaboon-kn3dc you are lucky
I am currently being bullied out of quitting trade school bahaha
Its batshit insane just how personal these godforsaken people get when their actions don't even help their cause
@@Kawhisexual So I work in the fire sprinkler field. It's part of construction. However I am in the service side of the field. Meaning we do repairs and inspections. 8 months ago, while doing an inspection, I found several sprinkler heads that weren't compliant with fire sprinkler code. They basically had to be replaced.
This creates money for the company if the building owner wishes to use us to correct the problem. One of the sprinkler heads that I reported was going to be a tough repair. It was just in a "tight spot", but it still needed to come out. One of the guys within my company that was sent out to do the repair, was pissed that he had this hard repair. Guy was convinced that I deliberately set him up to look bad. So for 3 months this guy started a smear campaign against me to make me look bad to management.
Keep in mind, in all of this. That guy never fixed the deficient sprinkler head. He just wanted an easy job to do for that day. He basically lied to the building owner about the sprinkler head being okay and that it didn't need to be replaced just to get out of a difficult repair.
@@nicholasevans9627 thank you for sharing your experience.. its just really funny how the personnel in the trade industry goes out of their way to kick out people who care and are eager to do right things and they turn around and complain about how they don't have enough skilled people.. its just so ironic
Trade unions are hard to get into also you usually have to know someone to get in. I tried back in 2017 and they told me there was 4 year wait in my area for any apprentice. Which is surprising when all you hear on the news is we don't have enough people in the trades. I had experience in framing, drywalling and fences/decks.
The Trades: "WE ARE DYYYYYYYYYYYIIIIIIIIIINNNGGGGG!!!!!!!11111!!!"
Also The Trades: "4 year wait pwetty pwease"
Gate keeping, trying to keep their wages high
@@MADMOGtheFrugalExactly, it’s all lies.
That’s what I’ve been told by the carpenters union and the iron workers union. Put in applications at companies and not a single call back or want someone with 5 years worth of experience.
@@beltedsleet It’s because all middle-upper management in all jobs, white collar or blue collar consists of boomers who, as you should know, are the most selfish, entitled generation in the past 100 years
Worked my ass off for a small construction company of 3 dudes, was the gopher, 128lb 5’5 tiny man carrying floor Joyce’s and cinder blocks all day. The bullying was quite frankly to the point where I was about to do something that would have me in prison if I didn’t leave, the pay was 12$ an hour, and I was a 1099. The trades suck ass even my boss said I was the hardest working 18 year old he’s ever seen and still treated me like shit. 7 months in I left, now work a sales job making 150k a year, the money is in sales work.
I hear a good amount of stories like yours. Sorry you had that experience in the trades. Heard many horror stories in sales as well. I tried to point people towards a skilled trade rather then general construction.
@@ThePasturedHomestead sales has been amazing, I don’t care if I deal with angry people at a door, I never see them again. But getting yelled at all day actually makes me work worse not better because I’m just worried about getting yelled at and not the work 🤣 get to meet lots of types of people and actually bring in enough money for the company to where I am not treated like a resource or a replaceable, not for everyone you gotta be a bit hoohoo to do a good job as it is a bit manipulative and requires a ton of ambition and people skills. Still I miss putting siding up that actually was so fun.
Also run a side hustle which is what my RUclips account is for! Side hustles are more for fun than money though.
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@@Managementsheltontactical The worst part about the trades is we have to do sales and hard manual labor. Im a polite and well spoken journeyman electrician and all of my customers are stingy and disrespectful. If i said no to their lowballing i lose the work and dont eat. My mom pulls probably 100-150k a year selling high end furniture in a nice air-conditioned building stocked with an espresso machine, drinks, and frequently catered lunches. I told her i have to do her job on top of my own job while getting paid significantly less. I also asked " how would you feel if after you made the sale on that $2000 couch you had to speed down to the warehouse, disassemble it, load it up, and move it three floors up in the customers mansion without damaging anything?". The guys doing it are paid 15-20 an hour.
People always talk about plumbers and welders. Mechanics get paid shit and treated even worse. Other trades are not appealing to gen z and millennials, either because of two simple reasons: You don't get paid and you don't get laid.
Big facts
That is why it makes sense to hire a sex worker, pay for the love-making and you can move on with live.
@@jediD20 We used to have that but that would mean more free willed men. To control a man you need to control his sexual appetite, aka marriage.
@@unc1221exactly this. Gen z guy here and I worker with all older guys no matter where I go and both ages young and old men would prosper so much if we could just pay and be done and go back to our work and life but nope that takes control away from them. World is too corrupt
@@blursithflow9442 Go re- observe all the married older men at work. Defeated, out of shape, low morale, essentially a neutered dog.
The same Boomers that told us that a college degree was the key to financial prosperity are now telling us to drop everything and go into the trades cause that’s where the money is at… is it really any surprise why we’re skeptical?
No one is telling you to do anything. You have a brain between your ears. Figure it out, make a decision, and take responsibility for your life regardless of how unfair life is. Even if we paid everyone exactly the same, why would it be fair some get to work in easy jobs and others in hard jobs? Why is it fair some people live in cold winter cities and others in nice places with beaches and warm weather? Life is not fair, so suck it up and get on with it.
@@ickster23 Sir, this is a Wendy's.
@@ickster23”No one is telling you to do anything.” And then you go on to tell me to use my brain, make a decision and suck it up lol oh the irony
@@karlstrauss2330 True that, but you don't have to follow my advice. That's the angle I was highlighting.
@@OmegaF77 Sorry, I don't do fast food. 😉
I keep hearing how great the trades are and how great the pay is, and yet most of the tradespeople i see in the comments are always complaining about work culture conditions, low pay, and toxic environments to work in. So it appears to me all these pro-trade videos are propaganda.
And they are both true at the same time
@@Apost0345 People can't understand that contradictions exist practically in reality all the time.
@user-cc5wm3ps4f Truth. I'm gen z and the work culture I'd horrible. I keep getting bullied despite showing up in time every day, always willing to learn. I rarely make mistakes too. Regret educating me for this trade.
Facts
It's like everything else. The pay is great if you are in the top 10%. And you get to.the top by sacrificing family, and by kissing ass to the bosses
The one complaint I keep hearing about the trades is apprentices are treated like shit by bosses and especially coworkers. Why?
Because that’s the American way.
Define "treated like shit"? If you are looking for a feminine office like work environment with daily meetings for hugs, sing alongs, etc. then you probably should be applying for an office job.
Gatekeeping
@@ickster23they probably mean vulgarity and verbal/physical abuse. Most people want to show up to work, shut up, do work, and go home. Most people don’t want to deal with other people’s BS.
@@Quafuple_Bonjular You define a sterile communist style of workplace. Building and other traditionally masculine jobs often require teamwork. Men also traditionally "chuck shit" at each other as a way of cementing a team. Yes, it can go too far, but conversely, eliminating it so as to not offend a few people is a greater negative. Same as pranks. There are malicious pranks and there are inclusive pranks. Those who are hyper sensitive and those on the left focus on malicious pranks and work to create a dour, miserable workplace. Here is a great example of an inclusive prank. We had a young sailor on our ship and it was his birthday. We made up a story that work needed to be done on the mast, and for safety to those below he needed to empty his pockets of cell phone, wallet, keys etc. Once up the mast in the bosn's chair, we then lowered him down, but not to the deck. Instead, we dipped him into the ocean then hauled him out and presented him with a gift and a cake for his birthday. The smile on his face was amazing. Many today would have PTSD for life over this, and the victimhood cult would have a temper tantrum, but this "harrassment" helped cement the team and was a very position be experience.
I will speak about the trades in my country. Here it seldom pays a good salary. The work is hard and sometimes backbreaking with a lot of heath issues as you get older (I've seen 65 year olds in office jobs, but never in trade jobs). You also have more chances of getting a crappy boss/employer and colleagues who, not only will not teach your or help you, but they'd also let you make mistakes just to see you getting fired. Trades are only good if you: 1) learn a few tricks and go abroad 2) do freelancing while also having the job (and stealing some of the clients from your trade company)
Yep my uncle worked a trade job ow at 60 he's in constant pain and on med for it's not worth it in the long run
You can make a living as a self- employed tradesman doing private work - as long as you don't mind no holiday or sick pay, no pension, and having to provide your own van and tools. I've avoided site work like the plague.
Well said. A friend of mine took over the HVAC company his father started and recognized what he had. He always says, "People look down on the trades, but without them they'd be living in a hot, dark house crapping in buckets."
HAHA, yes they would!
I don't think people look Down on tradesmen. I think people realize that there's easier ways to make more money
Not always. Many appreciate the workers in hard jobs in the same way they appreciate those in dirty jobs. They're happy someone's doing the job because the person knows they couldn't operate a saw all day or stomach handling garbage 5 days a week.
Because apprenticeships are hard to get, and we all didn't have fathers teaching us these things as teenagers. They kept saying go to college so we wouldn't have aching back and knees in our 30s and 40s. I had to learn how to pressure wash on my own. No mentor whatsoever. The guys that i reached out to were selfish and condescending. Most of the older guys in the trades are bullies.
There's barely any apprenticeship where I'm at in Montreal, they expect people to have at least a year or 2 worth of experience to be an apprentice. 10 job postings for most trades and you're telling me there's a shortage. Good thing I did the research rather than just going in.
Having a father (or equivalent male role model) to mentor you is huge: most of the successful tradesmen that I've met were guided into it by their dads starting in childhood -- not necessarily in the same trade, but something adjacent (e.g. an electrician father guiding his son into plumbing or roofing, or even just a handy father giving his son the confidence to work with tools & self-teach). It's why there's such a hazing culture, because to them everything about it is "obvious" since they've been doing it forever & they've forgotten what it was like not to know it.
Tell em
@@ryh5169 I mean, just say that they didn't have daddy to baby them into it like the mentor did. Since their boomers it will probably induce a lead induced rage but that's a win.
Facts. They not honest. Its for Whyte people. They got a documentary on how unions kept blk people out. Ain't nothing change but the weatger
They don't pay enough to eat.
Plumbing sucks sometimes but the thought of looking at a computer screen all day literary sounds like hell.
Plumbing looks fkn awful I’m just going to keep it a Buck
As a Gen Z/Millenial/Zillenial who did get into auto mechanics and auto repair, its just not worth it anymore.
Inflation sucks and it has made it to where the pay just doesn't justify the cost of your health and labor.
I transitioned from agriculture to construction (carpentry). Here in Canada, there are just as many toxic people in the industry as the USA. Were it possible, I'd get my training in Germany, Switzerland, or Japan. At least tradespeople (for the most part) actually care in those countries. They want to focus on their job and foster the healthy relationships in their lives.
Thankfully, I have found good people to learn under.
I'm 52. My dad was in construction and told me not to go into it. You're correct in your assessment, but in my dad's day, wives weren't working jobs with health benefits. Nowadays, households have someone with benefits which allows for someone to be in a trade that doesn't provide benefits.
Bad advice. The profit you made working dawn until dusk was better then what I'm getting the SAME thing. Profit margins have been decreasing forever. Why the hell do you think so few companies are taking apprentices?
Actually it’s great advice. There’s two types of tradesmen. Those that show up and go home and those that show up to learn, grow, and strive for greatness, then go home. Doesn’t matter what kind of economy exists, the guy that wants to show up and go home isn’t going to be successful. You sound like that kind of guy. I made 120k a year working for a company from 8-4, 5 days a week while some guys made $40k a year putting in the same amount of time. The only person at fault is the one not working hard, expanding their knowledge and striving for greatness. Some guys like to complain about the world and others like to grip the world by the horns and succeed.
@@ThePasturedHomestead 🤣
I own the company, and I work close to 70 hours a week in the busy season and will move 35ish grand in materials a month on average by myself. There's a reason trades are dying. The replacement ratio is 7:1 in the USA. The wages are shit outside of union and large cities. You can grab all the horns you want. If you can't find quality employees you're just as stuck as the next schmuck.
This video isn’t entirely accurate when it comes to depicting the trades. I went to school and got a degree in electric/electronics. The only job I was able to land was at my local school system as an electrician making $16.84/hr…trades are not always a guarantee for a good paying job. At least not here in southeastern Kentucky
I worked in construction (carpentry) for 15 years, I got out of the trades because of
No retirement
No health benefits
competition with illegals who work for way less
Debilitating/fatal injury risk
No unions
No sick days
"if you do it right" actually applies to contractors and employers making the job market viable, which they don't
You can be self employed if you are a good
-salesman
-accountant
-hiring manager
-Estimator
-Collector
If you're not ALL these things, your self-employment will be upside down within 2 years
The trades used to be good because of unions, but without leverage, they become extremely risky. Getting out of the trades and moving into something else if you get hurt is extremely difficult.
This is why the trades aren't pursued.
Did you work in a "right to work" state?
Succinctly stated
Dude average pay for a plumber in my area... 25.64 an hour... Software sales average pay rate 50.48 an hour... I won't even lookup the difference in injuries or lifetime earnings.
Considering what these jobs can do to your body and our terrible healthcare system I don't blame them it not worth it in the long run.
No kidding, I did hvac and six months into my feet felt like crap and my back would kill by the end of the day. It’s hard on you body
Me - A NCCER Certified Welder: "Hey, I just applied to this position, when can I start?"
Welding shops I applied to: ***LITERAL CRICKETS***
Problem with welding is that's one of the trades every young guy ran too. It's a flooded trade.
That was me with HVAC…not a peep from any of the companies I reached out to got back to me.
@saintseer9578 It's so ridiculously difficult for a Trade that takes ONE YEAR to learn.
@@rustym.shackelford5546 exactly! Yet they complain about the trades needing more workers to replace the older fellas retiring. We went and learned the basics to get the job and now no one will hire us…sounds just like what happens when folks attend a 4 year university or college and doesn’t get hired for years on end.
When you are 50 and still crawling around with bad knees/hips/back. You will tell your kids to go to college, like the rest of us...
If I’m 50 and still crawling around u made some poor decisions in my life. Don’t go into the trades to be a grunt till you’re 50 and broken. Go into the trades, learn the trade well, start a business and eventually run it while everyone does the work. It’s not the trades fault that a 50 year old didn’t plan their life out.
@@ThePasturedHomestead Fair point but honestly what's the percent of tradesmen in this situation at 50(i mean with a business and who don't have to do "grunt" work at 50) ?
I'm probably wrong, but i feel like the majority don't have this possibility.
@@edouard9867 they absolutely have this possibly. But I agree, a lot of people don’t aspire to own a business. That’s not the trades fault though. The same could be said for a desk job, after 50 years of never moving your body, you’re going to have pains in other areas. The problem is in the attitude of the employee, and that extends to all fields, including those that went to college.
@@edouard9867 even if that 50 year old still works for the same company for 25 years, that’s fine. But hopefully by then they’ve at least worked their way up in the company to be a manager, assistant manager, etc. But that takes a plan from the start, some people just don’t do that. They don’t think about the fact that they’ll be old some day and should build their skill set to grow or that they should save money and invest so they don’t have to rely on the little social security money they will receive.
@@ThePasturedHomestead bro, your system is build on population growth
I was a tradesman for over 35 years, and your damn right. I told my kids to stay away. It's a dead-end job for most. Sure, there can be a lot of money. But there are many times when there is no money and no job. 200,000 a year? Maybe some do, but that is the exception, not the rule. If you are not self-employed or in management at a good company by 50 to 55, you get thrown out with the bathwater. You use up your body in the performance of your job and most tradesmen over 55 are only working on a drinking problem.
5 years as a carpenter. I started late at age 28 after having worked dead-end jobs. Now I get good money to build beautiful things out of trees all day. It's peaceful and I'm proud of what I do.
I'm 29 leaving the warehouse scene, I got excepted into the construction ready program here in Atlanta. Start class after labor day, im super excited and willing to put in the work to find out what exactly i want to do in the fields. Main goal is heavy machinery. But I'm willing to learn just about what ever until that time comes. I love that there's so many avenues that I don't even know where to start. Wish me luck and God bless 🙌
@@Freeblood100buckswishing you the best brother
Recession proof?? Yeah, you'll learn about that one young one.
Industrial capable 3D printing lurks for the future
For real! I own my own electrical business and between too much competition, not enough work, and the current state of the economy, I haven’t had a full week’s work in nearly 4 months. Builders are weary of building because houses aren’t selling. Thing no one mentions about trade work is it’s feast or famine.
Glad i studied Chemistry and got a Bachelor's in it. Its like a "high end trade." I have an office space and use my hands. I never sweat. AC on blast, no sweat, good benefits, near 6-figures, all good.
They'll be an AI bot for everything. You just sit tight.
@@wolfbeans dumbest way of thinking. They’ll be robots made to do trade jobs eventually too.
You are correct. In the trades if you apply yourself you can excel at a very fast rate. You also are around other trades and that has many benefits in the long run. When a man balances his mind and hands he can go along ways and is less dependent on others.
I'm glad that young man had a good experience in the trades. My experience was the complete opposite. I owned a business, but hard times forced me to pivot. At the advice of a relative, I joined the glazier trade. I worked hard, was punctual, and eager to learn. Unfortunately, most of the guys in the trades are pos. They're more interested in being an asshole than getting the work done.
After a couple of years of that nonsense, I pivoted again. This time, I made the right choice. I now work in the aerospace industry. At my new career, the pendulum swung in the opposite direction. My co-workers are educated and eager to teach new hires. I no longer work with toxic people in a toxic environment. I love it.
It does seem the happy medium of trades is somewhere that requires more than a fourth grade education so you’re not working with drug addicts, felons, or just straight up bitter losers
After checking the comments. Everyone agrees. Your crazy! My friend was a Plummer for 4 years. Never made more than 24 an hour. Now he sells plumbing equipment. As a business owner I can assure you… your numbers are for OWNERS not WORKERS. Your family owned their own companies so you had a leg up from your peers from their education and guidance.
This dudes a nepobaby, he makes some points but his experience has been way more positive because of his early experience with tools and the fact his parents own their own businesses in the trade already, he has such a leg up it’s not even funny.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 first spell right plumber if you are self employed plumber you can easily make 80 to 100 a hour depending on what job it is . Don’t work for someone work for yourself
Dang I wish I could take my time on the job like you do
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You are so right! Around us there are not many schools that have vocational training. The push is to go to college or be good at sports and get scholarships to college. My brother still farms the family farm in Pennsylvania, but there isn't anyone to take it over. My son is a general contractor at 31 that not only builds and renovates houses, apartments and farms and can also do tree work. He has moved to South Carolina to his fiancee's beef and horse farm. The one thing about going into trades is there are always jobs. Thank you! Hopefully young people heed your advice! You are very mature and practical for your generation!
It sounds like you’ve done a fine job with your son! I hope the family farm stays in the family. We need more small farmers in this country 🤞
Sorry man the statistics don't match the incomes you are shooting out there for wages the average plumber makes NO WHERE NEAR 200,000$ let alone 100,000$ year that is utter bs. If you are the owner of a decent sized plumbing company yeah but most plumbers don't own the company. Also to make money in the trades you HAVE to work a ton of OT that's when you actually make decent money. My friend made 80,000$ a year as an electrician running the entire job working 70 to 80 hours a week. Well guess what he burned out and now only works 40 hours a week and makes no where near that kind of money. Most trades afford you a very average middle class wage that's why nobody wants to go into them. Also most guys that work in the trades are pretty physically broke down by the time they retire. You are talking about people who OWN companies not the workers. If it were true that plumbers make 100,000 dollars a year people WOULD go into the trades. Look it up yourself the average wage for plumbers is like 50 to 60K which is average.
I strongly disagree with you and hope no one sees your comment as truth. You must not have watched my video very closely. I said “that you could easily make upwards of $200k a year as a plumber, and most of the guys I worked with were making $100-120k a year with benefits/time off etc”. That’s too bad about your electrician buddy. I’ve worked with guys that made $50k a year while I was making $120k working for the same company. It all depends on your drive and the amount of effort you put into your job. If your buddy was making $80k a year working 70 hours a week that would be an hourly pay of around $23/hr. I’m sorry to say but your buddy needs to go get a different job, or start his own company. Also, when I owned my business I was grossing $500k a year, and profiting $250k a year by myself with one van. I’m telling you, if I can do it, anyone can. It all depends on how hard you want to work and how smart you are. My advice to anyone working an underpaid job is to go find a better one and if you can’t find a job that will make you more then start your own business. That’s the quickest way to being a millionaire 👍
Also… my local plumbing union here in Kentucky is paying a two year journeyman plumber $56 an hour. That’s over 100k for someone that’s only done this for 2 years. All the local residential plumbing companies are paying $80-120k a year to start for two year journeyman plumbers.
@@ThePasturedHomestead You can make any numbers you want. Yes UNION tradesmen make big money I'm not going to argue with you on that. Please do yourself a favor and look up the statistics in your state for what an average plumber makes in my state the average plumber makes 26 dollars an hour. The average master makes 37 dollars an hour. And that's OK but those are real numbers not these pie in the sky numbers your throwing out there. The union jobs in the trades are sweet no argument hear but most plumbers aren't lucky enough to land the union job. Also where I live the guys who own the plumbing companies say there business is really slow like repairs only nobody doing home improvements they aren't making 200k a year. Also they won't hire you as an apprentice here unless you've done trade school it is really really hard to find someone who will take you on as an apprentice off the street. Great for you that you have done so well but that's absolutely an exception as are those sweet union jobs. But advice for anyone in the trades get into Union absolutely like in the trades thats where the good money is. I live in a richer state then you In think you'll find the average pay for a plumber in your state is lower than here. Not to mention in the trades you work with a lot of alcoholic trumptards for real thats my friend who is a commercial electrician's biggest complaint. Ok he makes 60 a year 30 an hour which is decent but no fan of his co workers. Your looking at this from only your situation and point of view. Look up the real numbers the trades are very middle class jobs. Is the pay trending upward absolutely. But I looked the NUMBERS up I didn't make them up or use only the highest paying example like your doing.
@@mattm9619 what state do you live in?
@@ThePasturedHomestead CT and we are not enjoying the housing boom that the southern states are so for the tradesmen business can be a struggle to come by at the moment. So for your state it says the average licensed plumber makes 23 an hour. But I believe you that companies are paying that much because it's really hard to find enough tradesmen in the places that are enjoying a housing boom. But facts are facts are for your state 23 an hour is the average. And as you know like most industries the trades really enjoy booms and there are are also busts. So when things are booming pay is good and OT is plentiful and when there is a bust your collecting unemployment. Like my buddy who is a commercial electrician is busy right now but residential can be challenging to find jobs and keep steady work coming in.
One word. Wages
I made more money in the trades than most people I know. Wages are great, just have to be a hard worker work good wages. Also can’t settle for crappy jobs with crappy wages.
@@ThePasturedHomesteadarent we jist so special work for a year making $13 an hour and comeback and say that
@@ThePasturedHomestead Can't care. What you say is fundamentally untrue for my situation, and everyone my age as well. Not enough.
@ThePasturedHomestead your full of shit and I got house truck dirtbike land etc. Trades suck ass and the wages are dog shit. All stem field degrees pay more and the average debt to get em is like mid 30k which is nothing when your early 20s making six figures.
@@ThePasturedHomesteadyou got in with family that owned business so ofc it was different for you
I used to work commercial HVAC, and the foreman there wouldn’t wanna give the chance to learn. They had me sweeping and picking up stuff just because i looked young and had no experience. Long story short I got let go for refusing to drive 48 miles to a job to pick up trash and sweep. After that I quit the trade, after not finding a job since most jobs require “experience” and went back to my old job in healthcare.
Is healthcare just as toxic ?
Electrical apprenticeship here in FL is $13.62 to start and tops at $24.40. You’re making way more off these videos than I would in the electrical field. Check your facts bud
He's delusional, straight up.
Apprenticeship is what you do while learning. Compare that to the negative income you get while going to college.
Journeyman and master electricians make good money and they don't go into debt to acquire their skills.
Dude no way. I do trim carpentry and we aren’t even talking for less than $80hr.
Bay Area california. I work for myself.
I remember the Florida economy. Shitty built on tourism. If you are not a salesman and a good one, you ain't eating.
I will say, if you own the company, you can pay yourself better than any other employer will.
I always say “You don’t meet a lot of old roofers.”
The trades has SUCKED my whole live....................
why though?
Great message! I grew up in the auto collision repair business, I worked in the industry for fifteen years and then taught it for twenty seven years. Hundreds of my students went into the industry.
I retired six years ago and I now homestead. And because my dad instilled in me "never pay someone to do what you can easily do". I've taught myself to garden, raise animals for meat, eggs, and milk. Learned to to make cheese and soap from my goat milk. Along with that you have to learn to do things around your property like carpentry, plumbing and electrical as well as landscaping. I've literally learned more in the last eight years than I did the previous twenty.
Homesteading is a great thing. You have to be “everybody” to get the job done. Great for teaching kids too! I told ashlyn “we are buying lots of land so we never get old on the couch” lol
Talk to successful blue collar workers who are older than 50 or so and you will find that the vast majority of them did something similar to this....they worked in their trade until they were 40 or so and then had to find a way to use that experience outside of doing the work to earn a living....because it is simply too physically demanding and employers simply will not hire or retain older workers in the trades. It works out great for the few who can parlay their experience into another career path like teaching but those positions are few and far between meanwhile many tradesmen too old to do the work are not few and far between
I tried, they wouldn't take me for apprenticeships because I'm too old (26). Everyone offered low money, warned me not to get into the trades, and offered much less than I make in my current linguistics career path. I think if you have family or friends who can get you in, it's a great and sustainable career. But why would I pay to go to trade school and restart my life, when they don't WANT us in the trades? As someone else said, propaganda.
As a millennial I'd say it's two main reasons we don't get into the trades or if we do we don't stay long.
1 when we were growing up in the 90s and 00s we were all told by these same older people who are complaining now that you need to go to college and if you don't you'll be a homeless bum. I remember in 7th grade when someone said they wanted to be a plumber because their dad was one and the teacher told him it wasn't a good idea.
2 when you get into the trades there is a culture of hazing and unnecessary BS.
I've been on jobs and wanted to learn and I would ask questions on things I didn't know or would just ask for clarification on how to do certain job and the older employees that were supposed to teach you either flat out refuse to tell you or scream at you when you come to them respectfully. Then they would get mad when you mess up. If they would have cut the BS from the jump and just advised me we could have saved time and money.
Thanks for sharing this, my son is 17 and is worried about what he wants to do. But like you said his dad's side the family is all about university and college being the only way to success.
But I keep telling him that if he wants trades you can be trained for a quarter of the price and the starting pay is well above what some college level careers pay.
This is a great perspective, for our young people!!!!
Absolutely! Learning the trades is free! Just have to go apply for a job and everyone is hiring. Best of luck to your son!
You have some old wisdom for a gen z person - your skills and trade look and sound like a person from gen x 💯
Thank you very much! I learned from my father, Grandfather, and uncles!
Great advice! You are a very mature and practical thinking twenty-six year old.
All trades are in high demand where we live. Unfortunately many, thankfully not all, members of the younger generations don’t want to do manual labor. We have five grandsons, no granddaughters, and we will be sharing this video with them.
Also, I want to let you know that we will continue following you and Ashlyn on your journey. We have watched all the videos you’ve created thus far.
Wishing you all the best in life!
Dave and Lin Harvey
Thank you so much Dave and Lin! What a wonderful comment. I hope I can help inspire your grandsons to get into a trade if that’s the route that they want to take. They have really improved my life and opened up a world of opportunities! I hope you enjoy any future videos, thank you for watching 😃
Tell them to go to college and be a PM if they want to be in trades.
9:00 if we didnt have plumbers and electricians we would be shitting outside in the dark
That's true. The top 1% will have electricity though. They'd hire a Theoretical Physicist and Electrical Engineer to get it done.
Like they did for ALL of human history, minus the last 100 years or so.
Ypu don't need electricity to survive
I'm Gen Z and really happy I went into the trades. I went to college early when I was 16 and graduated early at 19. I came out and was set up to go to medical school.
But i wasn't happy.
The people are all depressed going to class and half of them, myself included, just wanted to make enough money to have a family and enjoy life.
I then to the shock and horror of my family and friends turned down going to medical school and decided to go into HVAC and appliance mechanics.
Went to "school" for a year at 20. Got a job and worked there till I was 24. It sucked the first year and a half as I made almost nothing. Was still living with my disappointed parents. But eventually got a raise and promotion and suddenly made the same as my mom at the time. Then a year later made as much as my dad.
Now at 26, i have my own company and I make more then all my siblings and parents make combined. It's hard work, but eventually I think I'll sell my company after a few more years and who knows? Start another trade or maybe go back to trying for medical school?
Hey, good for you AJ! Im glad you chased your dream. Owning a business is one of the quickest ways to wealth!
I so agree. How would any of us survive without the trades?
Two of my neighbors were plumbers and you are right, they make great incomes. Both owned their own businesses. One commercial & one residential. 6 years ago it cost $175 just to show up at the door before any labor or parts
Its a great business to get into. I was very fortunate to have a succesful business in such a short amount of time!
It sucks around here. I really wanted to do one, maybe follow in my father's footsteps and go to school to be a carpenter, but trades here are horrendous. Pay nothing, hard to get work, yet apparently we have a shortage in our area.
Only one you might luck into even finding work is a CDL, other than that, even electrician, which my brother in law did, couldn't get anything. Same goes for all the others.
What area?
@ThePasturedHomestead In Canada, so may not be as applicable, but Newfoundland and Labrador, specifically Newfoundland. Seems everywhere else in the country has better prospects for it though. Healthcare is the main thing here. Trade school (all employers want here) is around 16k on average here.
@@bradystuckey3813 I can’t speak on Canada. Seems the economics in Canada are very hard on the trades and in general. The US has a lot of opportunity in the trades
this guy needs to stop lying to people
I had a job opportunity to be trained and do roofing for $55/hr, then I was told, upon receiving the application, that I would be started out at $18-$20.
No. Now they can call me back when they'll start me at $58-$60.
Was the pay going to 55 in 6 months after the probation and training was done? If so you screwed up big time.
@@ADobbin1 No. They said 55 starting. They lied. Fuck em.
Why the hell would I work in the trades at 17 an hour when target is hiring at 23 an hour. I can also just use my time at target to work at my degree with a more flexible schedule than a trade.
@@Redawesomeoby not everything is about money, especially in the beginning of learning a valuable skill. There will come a day when our lively hood will be decided by our skill set. You may start at 17 an hour in any given trade but you will finish at 40+ an hour and hopefully if you were smart, owning your own business as a multi millionaire
@@ThePasturedHomestead There's no guarantee of that though. Alongside that you've also got the health risks, toxic culture, and other things that will probably push you out of work in a few years with little to show for it aside from something else to put on your resume.
@@Redawesomeoby every job has health risks, toxic culture etc. it’s about how YOU treat your body in that certain job and finding a company that has a good culture. To work at a trade where you don’t take care of your back is just as bad as sitting at a desk where you don’t move all day.
I’ve worked for a lot of companies, including owning my own. There were some that didn’t have a good culture, others were wonderful. I’ve had times in my career where I didn’t take care of my body and now I do because I have that knowledge. Your success in any career isn’t define by the “culture” it’s defined by how you maneuver through said culture. Contrary to popular belief (especially this generation) like ain’t happening to you, you have the choice, you have the free will, you have the audacity.
Amen! I encouraged all for of my children to go to trade schools.
Both of my boys are roofers, plumbers, construction..they are in their 30's. Both my girls are nurses.
It sounds like you have done a fine job!
@@ThePasturedHomestead thank you
@@ThePasturedHomestead and my oldest daughter & youngest son are homesteaders
Not only does it pay well, it pays you every time you can do a project, repair, install. My husband saved us hundreds of thousands of dollars with all of his skilled knowledge.
That is wonderful!
Go to community college for a couple of years and do some trade work part time if so inclined. You can get into trades at 20-22 years old, but most adults struggle to go back to school. Your more likely to regret not getting a “degree you’ll never use” than to regret not jumping into a trade at 18.
I've been a plumber for 5 years and I've never made more than 50k a year. I bought into the "trades pay great" my experience has been wholly different. The money in the trades at least in my state is terrible.
Start your own business
Great video man. Your good character and pride in your work really shows through. I think that's what lacking for many in the industry, and judging by the comment section here, people haven't experienced those types of people in their workplace. Our society loves to tribalize. It's always us vs them, one better than the other, rather than mutual respect and recognizing we needs all kinds of work to make a vibrant society function. Hope you continue your success, and hopefully more like you enter the trades.
You really need to put on knee pads otherwise like me in later life you’ll have knee problems.
Just stumbled upon your channel it’s great.
Good luck in your new venture.
From Devon England.
I know youre right, gotta take care of the knees and back.
I grew up in the trades. All my family continues to work within the trades, making very good money. My nephew, in his mid thirties made over 300k last year. My youngest son (11) will start working summers this year.
Your nephew is a rock star! I love reading these comments!
Dude plumbing and electrical are heavy labor during apprenticeship. That 1st 5 years is rough in terms of tax on the body and overall health. Plumbing, HVAC, and electrical are not as rough as framing, concrete work, or carpentry but still detrimental on the body in a way that can't be compared to say software sales.
Most trade jobs won't hire without experience. I applied to a hvac company that said they badly needed people. They wouldn't hire me without at least 2 years experience.
I worked as an installer for an HVAC company and the pay still sucked 24 dollars an hour to destroy your body, no thanks. I’m in really good shape too but that crap is hard on your entire frame
People always say in these videos how great trades are and how much of a "shortage" there is but doesn't go on to say how hard they are to actually get hired into, even as an apprentice.
They are EXTREMELY easy to get into. One of the easiest jobs to start. You need 0 experience. All you need to start in a trade as an apprentice is a good work ethic and the willingness to learn.
@@ThePasturedHomestead Thats not true, it is common to be out on a waitlist for years to get into a union for example.
@@maximusthegreatest every residential plumbing company and Union outfit in my area is hiring constantly and offering HUGE incentives to work for them. Washington state was the exact same as well.
Where are you? I’m Grand Rapids area applied to ibew a year or two ago, haven’t heard anything. Maybe just me but my research points to it being common.
@@maximusthegreatest I’m in KY. Brother lives up by you though. I’ve been in the trades since I was 12. Grandpa, dad, uncles, cousins all in the trades. The trades are suffering with a lack of work. I would recommend applying to multiple places. Not everyone is hiring apprentices at that moment in time
Im on the opposite side im 27 and just about everyone in my family has college and graduate degrees and even doctorates but i went into the trades. i went the college for 2 years right after highschool and spent a lot of money not going anywhere i got into cooking for almost 10 years and now i am a merchant mariner (sailor on cargo ships takners roro's ect) the trades can offer you a lot of money at a fraction of the tuition most trades even give you ojt and its a skill that if cultivated will stick with you for the rest of your life. there is definitely a lot of stigma with trade jobs from parents who see college as the only path to success but im happy and im part of a union so i get all the health and retirement benefits and make enough money in 6 months to support myself an a family if i decide to have one. I may go back to college some day but im happy where i am now
The skills learned will stick with you as an earning tool as long as your body is physically able to do the work. For all but a select few this begins to slow at 35 and by 50 almost no one can still do the work at a rate that is acceptable to contractors. Union contractors have to sign an agreement that about 20% of their workforce wil be 50 years old or older because most humans simply can not do the work past 50 at an acceptable pace and will struggle to earn a living for the last 20% of their careers. These are facts that are easily verified through DOL stats.....the trades are great for young folks but most young folks eventually become old folks...
Are you a trade worker on the merchant ships? I'm seriously considering going to school to become a merchant marine officer.
I'm 43 and the last generation of tradesman for sure it's very rare to see anyone younger then me on job sites and if you do see a kid around there normally useless and don't want to work even the least little bit and surely not learn to advance themselves
Where i currently work as a carpenter we have tons of accidents. Almost no safety at all and i hate seeing the foreman treat me a guy his own age like junk because i try to stress safety to the young guys.
In seven months at this place i was there during 3 lost time accidents, countless minor injury accidents and a few property damage accidents. Heck today we had a guy close an overhead door on a moving forklift. Made one heck of a bang.
Just a month or so ago a guy a few feet from me lost some of his eyesight permanently. Hes young around 26 but wasn't taught any safety so thought safety glasses slowed him down and were a waste of time. He got a screw stuck in his eye in a freak accident and in a panic he yanked it out.
When you hear someone scream in pain like that it sticks with you.
Oh and in this video i would love to know where this guy is working. I have never had a trade job with holiday pay until my new job. And we get 2 weeks a year. If we stay at the company for 20 years we still only get 2 weeks a year vacation. The trade off is its regular employment not temp untill the job is completed then you get laid off. Trade off is lower pay.
So overall the trades are brutal on the body, most companies pay low wages (unions are near impossible to get into but they pay well), little to no job stability, very few companies will give you holiday pay and zero paid sick days like office staff can normally get. And as many said... Lots of bullies, lots of drug addicts, lots of thieves in the trades. So be prepared to buy new tools if you cant watch yours closely. Oh, did i mention you supply your own hand tools on most jobs... Or get supplied busted up junk to use by the company.
My son is in retail management and I wish he would explore a trade because I know he would make much more money and enjoy it more than what he is doing now. It would suit his personality better.
My oldest daughter is a teacher and loves it. my youngest daughter is a PA , also loves it but has a boatload of student debt. I am proud of how hard they work but would be just as proud if they had gone into a trade.
If I could recommend a trade, it would be electrical! It’s very fascinating a technical. It’s also not very dirty, compared to being a plumber 😂
Uh, one reason we aren’t going into the trades is because in the next few years we will all be 30 and over. I am over forty. Yes, people, realize that the millennials are now getting older. Most of us are past the point of GOING into anything else. It isn’t easy to totally change your life’s direction and do something completely new for a job or career when you are right in the middle of life, with a marriage, kids, scraping to have a house for them to live in, etc. we aren’t college age anymore, why do people keeps acting life we are? Maybe because they aren’t really paying attention.
I almost went into the trades, but had a college opportunity I couldn't turn down. I've spent my career as a hand on engineer, and can say you are definitely right about the quality of work in the trades. If someone will follow instruction, and can pass a drug/background check, there are many employers who will gladly hire them.
Drugs is the worst problem. I've seen so many people fired for drug/alcohol use. Government suppliers of "safety critical"components must drug test. Other employers can't allow anyone failing a drug drive anything (like a man lift).
Drugs/booze are a big problem in the trades... Its too bad.
A) If you're an Engineer, please be a good one. I'm a Pipefitter/Plumber and I see so much bad Engineering on a daily basis and I tell the jobsite Engineers that something won't work, and they tell me that it will...then I install it properly and it fails (just like I predicted it would), then they blame me for installing it wrong.
2) Yes, there is a drug/alcohol problem in the Trades. It is quite unfortunate. To be fair, I think that there is a drug/alcohol problem in society in general. I know people from childhood who would have never done drugs then, now are super into them. It's just the culture that we live in.
No one is hiring young people in the trades
I agree with everything that you said except for the trade school bit. Some states require Apprentices to complete schooling AND work hours in order to become a Journeyman. My home state of Idaho is. The state of Idaho requires 576 hours of Schooling at a regionally accredited trade school (minimum) and 8000 hours of working hours in said field (minimum) in order to become a Journeyman. States like California don't have the schooling requirement, you can simply work for a shop for four years, and then you're a Journeyman. Each state is different. Also if people go the Union route, schooling is required there.
My father was a Navy Seabee for 20 years and became a general contractor after he retired from the US Navy. He worked in construction until his 80's. I was adopted by him when I was 5 years old and he was 50 years old. The only thing he taught me was basic labor stuff that had no long term value other than knowing how to be a laborer.
I joined the US Army when I was 18 years-old then I went to college when I got out. I started a business.
Everyone complaining about pay don’t get it. When they say get into the trades you’ll make tons of money, no, you’ll make an alright amount of money.
When they refer to high pay that’s if you do side jobs or start your own company.
Very little tradesman make $100,000 or more by being hourly.
I experienced the same thing when I was a teenager. My Father was a Plumber and he constantly discouraged me from pursuing a career in blue collar trades. I’m 54 years old, this mentality existed before I was born.
The reason no one wants to go into the trades is a pure economic issue. The money simply isn't that good. I know it seems great but in a 54 year career (from 18-72) the ages earned will not be what the wages earned in a career with a similar amount of training and experience will be because the trades do not want you past the age of 45 or so when other industries actually start paying top dollar. For every electrician who is still earning a good living at 55 in the trade, working with their tools and not in management, there are 1000 who worked in the trade until they were about 35 or so and their body started to slow down and suddenly contractors wanted nothing to do with them. Working in the trades is a great way to earn a living between the ages of 18 and 50, if you're lucky and don't get hurt on the job or have some health issues but what are you going to do from 50-67 or 72 and retirement age? You are going to grow old and bitter if youre not able to go into management or parlay your experience and knowledge into a less physically demanding career. Wages have not kept up with demand, period, that is why there is a shortage of tradesmen. Wages have failed to keep up with demand because the industry has no use for most people after age 50 or so when they are at the top of the earning potential because they are no longer able to do the demanding work. If you going to gamble at 18 on a being able to earn a living beyond age 50 the trades are a LOUSY option.....they are far better from 18-50 than just about any career but the drop off when the body starts to slow down, and it will, is dramatic and very devastating. Not everyone is going to make it working for themselves....in fact almost no one who goes into the trades will. The math is there....
I’m not sure where you get these stats that you’re referring to or if maybe this was your experience in the trades. Anybody over 50 who doesn’t seem “fit” to do the job planned poorly for their career. There are so many options for someone that’s “slowing down” at an older age. You can be an instructor, project manager, branch manager, business owner, and inspector. I worked right along side guys 50-65 who kept up with me no problems. Maybe not as fast or flexible but they did a great job. Some of those guys were content staying as a worker and others worked their way up to management. You are generalizing and taking a small portion of people who didn’t plan out their career and got left on the back burner when their body failed them. I worked as a plumber for 7 years and finally decided to start my own business. My uncle worked for a company for 10 years and eventually because a project manager for 10 years, and eventually started his own successful business. My other uncle work construction his whole life, led crews, invested his money into a construction product and now doesn’t have to work. My grandpa worked at Boeing, decided to start a construction business and retired from that business to start building laundromats and storage centers. My point is that no job will give you success if you stay stagnant. Some of the population will never work their way up and will never plan our their career, that’s not the trades fault, that’s their fault. If you get into the trades, learn the skills, plan a career, you will be very successful and happy. I know because all the people above did it, and so did I. We are normal people who planned out a career. Like my grandpa always says “you better make a plan”.
I'm not sure of a job that enjoys hiring people over 50 when they can get a 20 year old. How many programmers, scientists, doctors, start at 55?
Yes your so right Zac it's happening here in Australia as well there's not enough tradies around and we are making good money
Great video! It all started with having a good foundation. 😊
Excellent perspective and spot on!! You’re very wise for your young age. God bless you for sharing your journey with us!
You are so welcome
If you don't go to college, you don't acquire debt. That alone is a huge advantage.
Thanks man, I really needed to hear this. I work on the railyards and someday it’s really tough for me.
Many oldtimers,fathers and uncles/grandfathers dont teach the younger generations anymore. And idc what job i have i refuse to be treated like trash lifes to short. Self employed is only way no matter what you do.
I agree with almost everything you said. My dad just retired from a lifetime of carpentry and then as a business owner building cold storage units for table grapes. He started out union then went non union pretty early in his career.
My husband has been a union pipefitter for the last 25 years. It didn't cost him anything to go through the union. He got paid to work right away as a first year apprentice, and went to night school a couple nights a week for free. The benefit that he has is a paid for retirement, vacation and medical. The detrimental aspects of being union is that you can't take non union jobs on your own. My dad had much more flexibility in that aspect.
Now, we have a 17 year old son who I honestly think would do better as tradesmen than going to college, knowinghis strengthsand weaknesses. Your video was really helpful to me, on looking at it from a perspective of a younger person in the workforce today. Of course it's my son's decision, but I plan on sharing your video with him. There is just so much pressure on teens to go to college today. I really appreciate your point of view. Thank you!
I Do Commercial HVAC in Arizona and I'm gonna be honest it doesn't pay well. I'm also forking out money to buy tools monthly because non union work you've gotta provide that, On top of that theres also expenses to jobsites. I'm having to pay for travel because companies love bidding on jobs on the opposite side of town so i.m sometimes commuting over an hour away unpaid paying for my own gas and mileage and still making base pay on top of paying for my own benefits out of pocket so thats like $280 a month i lose on top of $500 on gas and maintenance. It's not worth it. Companies want to pay you as little as possible and demand the most out of you. Id say if you have to sure do construction but if theres other ways to make money without going to college and spending a ridiculous amount on a degree thats the best way to go. I can see why someone wouldn't to do this line of work after doing it for 5 years now. Then the talk becomes "You can start youre own company" Not everyone should be in business for themselves nor wants to.
Paying to work is beyond stupid. Id give em the finger and dip out
My Biggest regret is apply to mall jobs because I'm a teenager, I should just done trades especially with me being a technician fixing self check out machines
That’s amazing. It is art. I’ve heard that from ppl b4. Driving past a big building & able to stop & say “ my hands helped make that”.
Furthermore, I’d like to emphasise on “skilled” labor, not your Home Depot under the table. Learning codes & regulations & just get experience. U can grow into management or even owner operator.
Good job bro!
I'm tail end of gen x and glad to see someone in your gen who has been taught well to have a good work ethic and not afraid to do some hard work like has to be in the trades. I worked in manufacturing and was a trainer and have seen both those who have good work ethic and those who didn't from your generation around your age. They got to a point that they'd switch some younger employees to my dept and have them train with me especially those in the cooperative education program. Some of them didn't have the knowledge that it could be a good job and thought they needed to go to college in order to make good money. Much of the basics that you were talking about I explained to them as well as thinking about if it was their business how would they want employees to work. Would they want employees who showed up and worked hard doing their best to do their part in their position or would they want employees who either didn't show up or showed up late and didn't want to do the job required? There were many of these student workers who the company was ready to let go but after training with me learning work ethic while making it fun we got more done which ended up having these students not only finish their school training to get their credits but ended up giving them a job after school. It's also a matter of pairing them up with people who might be a bit older than them but willing to train them being patient and showing them how great the job can be while teaching them how to do it.
That is wonderful! It sounds like you are really making a difference!
The trades aren't hiring young people, I tried to get into one for years. And the wages are low on top of it. Most never even break 30/hr
If you start out early in highschool, it can be good but once you are in your mid 20s with responsibilities, there's no point because there is no way to scale upwards faster than the typical path(Its an experienced based industry)
But with school, you can go from 0 to 6 figures or close to 6 figures just by having a degree.
@@kendrickf-d6695 degrees don’t mean what they once did but only half of all the students that graduate college go into a field associated with their degree. Which means that half of the students wasted their time in college. It takes 4 years to be a licensed plumber and electrician. Usually you start at around $15-$18/hr and by the end of the 4 years you’d be making $30-$60/hr. From there you should get good at the trades, learn the business and eventually start your own business where you’ll make the most money yet. Now I’m not saying that the trades are right for everyone. I’ve worked with a lot of guys that were terrible in the trades and had 0 work ethic and wanted to skate in life, but for the people that grip the bull by the horns and work hard, the trades can be extremely lucrative
In England if you do really good at exams youre mocked for wanting to go into a trade
In fact students in my school who didnt drop out & decided to go into gardening, building & plumbing were constantly ridiculed & attacked
I hope you didnt have a hardtime from your peers for wanting to get into the trades because I admire what youre doing
that's really sad...
blue collar workers
are crucial for society。
Idk why you would make a lot more if you start your own business plumbing then some idiot in a office
I clean at restaurants at 10.00 an hour,,,I'm 34 years old,,,I'm unemployed right now,,,but i think there is hope,,,
Thank you for this video. Well done.
Im 25, trades have been good to me, my 20 year old helper would disagree with me, likes to complain, doesnt like the long hours (we work 10 hours or less) or getting dirty, he has no previous experience so he gets paid helper wage, always talking about leaving and going to college, so why would i bother teaching him anything just for him to leave
@@alexchambers3034 there’s a lot of those out there. There’s a big of a plague going around the youth of this county that makes them feel like they deserve everything without giving anything in return. There are some of us out there that believe in hard work and don’t make excuses. You sound like you got your head on straight
@ThePasturedHomestead I started working when I was 15, had old school parents, they told me if I wanted something, work for it
Because you make more getting certifcates for tech and not risking your spine. Its more of a work smarter not harder type of thing
My dad was a stationary engineer. I joined the Navy and then got out to get a bachelors in CIS. For how "short " the trades report to be of people, there is simply way too much hoop-jumping for union apprenticeships. All that effort would/has better served me in my current field. Its still overall a good idea for people who aren't going to university.
As an Externinator, I fully agree with the idea that it is satisfying to use your mind and body to contribute something meaningful to society. I don’t build houses, but I keep rats and termites away with the knowledge learned from my trade work. Very satisfying job that isn’t as gross or scary as people think it is.
the trades are still masively underpayed, seven figure salary should be the bare minimum. Just conpare the earnings of the IT people from cushy climatised offices or from home. No, you get it all wrong, theres no tradesmen because pay suck. Its a lot easier to be a doctor, programmer, lawyer etc than tradesman when you are over 50, you didnt take that into consideration. Its shitty dirty unapriciated and miserably payed careers.
I made $20 an hour when I started my plumbing career... no experience at all. Worked my way up to $120k a year working for a company, running my own truck, full benefits. Then I started my own company and did $250k profit a year. I promise you, the trades aren't the issue, its the workers. There working class that goes into trades is a much different working class that goes into being a doctor, programmer, lawyer etc. The trades take 0 experience and schooling and those other jobs require degrees. There's a lack of tradesmen because we live in a tech world. I made more money then most people I did work for, and that included a lot of google, Microsoft people.
@@Iamabot4708 You’re dead wrong and the lack of knowledge shines through. People want experience and they want local. I made more money as a plumber than the majority of people I worked for. that was in a very high end area as well. The majority of people won’t be rich and won’t be successful. That’s not the trades fault, thats the people’s fault. There’s plenty of people in the tech industry making barely 6 figures. I would recommend you do some research
@ThePasturedHomestead At the end of the day, you have to do far more work to become a successful person. If you're a skilled tradesman, then if you were to just go to college and get a degree. both physically and mentally. And since we both agree that most people aren't willing to put in the amount of effort, it is to become very successful. Why would I take the harder route. If you look at the upper quartile of both skilled tradesmen and bachelor's degree holders. Bachelor degree holders make more and work less. You can tell people what you want. But I'll be telling my kids to go to college.
Dont listen to this guy he had an in for good trade job most suck I was a machinist for a year pay 13 an hour
Your so right bro. Coming from immigrant family my mom and dad always will tell me to go to college and get a office job. My dad is a mechanic and told me everyday when I was working with him. To not get into trades because hard labor. Went to college and wasn’t for me. I went straight to HVAC college school and got me a good starting pay for apprentice and used my skills that I learned being around my dad to get where I’m at. The trades is wide open whoever wants to get into. High demand high pay. Because nobody wants work with their hands and mind.
It sounds like our dads felt the same way. I'm glad you found your way; it sounds like you're doing very well for yourself!
I work as a home remodel carpenter. Im not in a union, Ive worked for some small, mom n pop type remodel companies. The money is ok, but I’m in a HCOL area and it doesn’t add up to homeownership unless I commute 90 minutes. The coworkers are hit and miss, a few good ones, many idiots. I’m good at what I do, and lots of days I can put in my headphones and install doors or windows or cabinets or whatever and it’s totally fine and I go home and can pay my bills.
What I’m worried about is the future. Most of the places I’ve worked for are terrible about benefits. No 401k matching, no assistance with health insurance, no PTO, little paid sick leave,etc. Then I look at all the guys who have been doing this for years… bad backs, bad knees, bad attitudes.
Like, the money was decent when I was in my 20’s, but the long term outlook shitty. My body will be broken with 20 more years of this stuff and I’m gonna be fucked with basically no retirement plan and no assets.
I’m seriously considering going to college to get an engineering degree.
I started out in trades and evolved into a desk job. I did welding and fabrication. Yeah, I made more at the desk, but you hold on to the trade stuff when it comes time to work on a house. You learn it all and also learn about permits. After doing a few projects you might think you are contractor material.
Good perspective and points. I did notice that there was not much mention on longevity. A good degree allows people to the ability to do a job even till they're 70, and they won't be exposured to as many environmental exposures. Additionally, the example with the doctor is true, but after 15, 20 years, the doctor, banker, engineer, etc. will make more over the long-term.
That said, we need or tradesmen and traditional educations should not be pushed to everyone as heavily as it is. Thanks for the video.
Very, very refreshing. Fixing up your little slice of heaven, and raising your own animals, love it. God bless you and your family.
Thank you! We still have a long journey ahead of us!
A real pleasure to see young man who has gained a lot and has a lot to offer exemplary role model