Absolutely! Xenoblade released around the same time and it is getting a the love now while this game is slowly being forgotten. The last story is on that same tier level and deserves a remake or sequel.
Lol, here I am with a HDMI cable from Hyperkin and Marseilles Mclassic graphics upscaler with pixel smoothing software! 😂 I'm at the pinnacle of Wii quality!
Just finished this game last night. It was totally worth my time and money. great music, interesting battle system and likeable characters. Ninendo was dumb for not bringing it early to the west with a big marketing campaign.
A truly masterpiece that should be placed by anyone who enjoys any kind of fantasy adventure dressed with an excellent story, memorable characters, a superb soundtrack, an outstanding art direction and wonderful characters design. Thanks Nintendo for bringing such jewel to Europe and to the crew for reviving a genre that has been suffering so much in the current generation.
Please, all of you : Go Play this. And if it's 60 bucks, it doesn't matter. I played so many great Games but story-wise, this game is the best game I think I've ever played. I wasn't prepared for all the emotional stuff going on and the depth of it all. Do yourself a favor and pick this up.
It seems like it'll be a great game, I'm not that thrilled with the combat mechanic where you run up and auto attack everyone but I'm sure it will expand once I've played more. The music and voice acting are outstanding and the story seems like it's going to be a classic.
This is the 1st JRPG i've ever played and the 1st RPG i play in a home console, AND I FUCKING LOVE IT!!!!!!!!. It's all perfect, all!!!! A 10 out of 10 hands down!!! BUY IT!!!!!!
You can compare the turn-based system to strategy games. You don't win by having the best reflexes and timing, you win by preparing for battle and reading the situation. When you're up against a tough boss, or low on health and looking for the next save point, the battle system proves to be just as thrilling as real time.
The art book and special box aren't pre-order bonuses. All first edition releases will come with them. However, XSEED has said they are doing a limited print, so if you really want those items, your safest bet would be to pre-order. Also, if you haven't heard yet, the mini-soundtrack will be a pre-order bonus to those who pre-order from Gamestop, EB Games Canada, and Amazon. You should receive all the extras if you pre-order from one of the places mentioned above.
This is my favorite game now, or it at least qualifies. It didn't focus on this huge adventure that, when you think about it tends to just pad hours played. Instead it focused on the story and developing the characters. One of the best games ever.
@UltimateIllz Keep in mind, that's not 20 hours of 'gameplay' - that's 20 hours of story. There's the meaty online multiplayer, side-quests (about 10 hours worth according to some forum posts I saw when the Japanese version came out)...not to mention some good old fashioned exploration. Still not too lengthy for an RPG, I agree, but it's still longer than most games nowadays and it's not like it costs more because it's a JRPG and so should be longer. I say judge by quality, not quantity =)
Quick question: Does the length of the game (or the game itself) justify a purchase. I hear it's only 30 hours long. Xenoblade lasted about 100. I don't have an online connection for the Wii either.
Bought a wiiu windwaker bundle last week been looking for good rpgs from the wii. Picked up this and xenoblade chronicles, really loving xenoblade hadn't started the last story yet. Gonna get the metroid trilogy and both zelda's. But some recommendations would be nice
It's 20 hours if you rush through the story without taking the time to explore and do quests. The developer has said that the game will run 30 hours with side quests included(course, the game can run around 40+ hours if you take the time to fully explore, level up weapons, revisit dungeons for items, battle in the arenas, etc., etc.)
Being a Nintendo IP isn't why XSEED kep the NoE translations/voices. They kept them because XSEED felt it was extremely done well. They could have changed the voices/translations if they wanted to. Xenoblade's sales did not have a direct affect on what XSEED wanted to publish because Xenoblade has nothing to do with XSEED. They said in an interview that TLS fit what they look for when choosing titles to publish and some of the team member who played the game said they loved it.
I had no idea Nobuo was still making music! This makes me ridiculously excited, and I am officially sold on the Wii U. Yes I know this is a Wii game but it'll play on it :P
Well, If you preorder the game at Gamestop, you get a free soundtrack CD featuring seven memorable tracks from the game. In addition, all first edition copies come in a special box with a 40 page soft cover art book featuring concept art and all that jazz. So if you want both, I suggest preordering the game and buy it at launch.
I must be slow because I'm only halfway through and I have collected about twenty hours of gameplay. Maybe it's because I take my time with everything.
Interesting fact about this game. The creator of Final Fantasy originally said that Last Story would be his "Last" game, similar to how he said Final Fantasy would be his "Final" game, but again he retracted his statement but now you know where he got the title idea from.
It's also waay more combat oriented, like mass effect, so the shorter play time is rather warranted, plus you get a new game+ when you're done (It's even chrono trigger style)
Maybe sales didn't affect TLS's release directly, but the sales of Xenoblade showed that there is still indeed a market for good JRPG's in North America; more specifically on the Wii. That(probably)encouraged TLS's release. Anyways, my point was that Xenoblade and TLS aren't in competition with each other since the release dates are almost two months apart. If they were both released within the same month, then I could have seen the competition. But two months apart? That's a bit of a stretch.
You are not forced to explore the whole field you know, you can just follow the arrow and then come back and explore for secret spots, quests, items and such later. I see no problem with it at all.
I recently bought the game. I'd say I'm around halfway through at this point. Last major game I sat through was Xenoblade. I'd highly recommend Last Story as well. Only thing I would change at this point is how easy combat can be at times. Each party member has 5 lives per fight-sequence, including the protagonist you control. This allows for plenty of mistakes in fights. I'm hoping for some sort of difficulty increase option once I've beaten the game. So tl;dr, they're both amazing games.
Sure, you can play the game and beat it in perhaps 10 hours or more, but you will be missing side quests which helps you understand other characters in the game. Plus, the game does give rewards for you exploring places like the city which continually leaves stats upgrades lying around the grounds in certain places. There is no real reason to rush the main story if there are other things to do.
I agree with your theory makes since to me. But I think it's safe to say Jrpgs don't sell on 360 anywhere not just in Japan they don't sell well in the US either. The western rpgs are the ones that sell on the 360 in the US. PS3 though I have no clue what sells on that.
Maybe, but sadly, it hasn't been confirmed if Pandora's tower will make it in America. They're a bit more hesitant with that one since it hasn't sold that well in Japan. I hope it does because it's the most appealing of the three games, at least for me.
I suppose it depends on what you like. If you're a fan of RPG's (and JRPG's in particular) this game is an absolute no brainer. It suffers from a little bit of linearity but the game gives you the option of re-visiting places and doing sidequests which help break it up. The story isn't really groundbreaking, but the characters are really solid and help completely glaze over any of the plot's shortcomings. The game looks beautiful for a Wii game, too. I'd definitely recommend. :) Hope you enjoy.
For some reason, I think it would be fun if JRPGs went the massive battles route. By massive battles I mean, 6-10 people involved in the fight, and the battles themselves hard as hell. It would be an action RPG of course. Couldn't imagine turn-based with something like that.
fancy lighting and particle effects and high resolution does not make up for bad art direction however, according to some comments that all people care about in games
Aid the meele not just attack but make sure you leave rings for them to power up their weapons for their attacks and heal them if you have the power to. Like when your fighting the Krakken its weak to fire. If your playing Yurick then stand back and blast it with your fire magic. You can get 5000 or 7000 or more Damage to the boss
Yeah, I get it. But "Final Fantasy" was Square Enix's last attempt to make a profitable game. Hironobu Sakaguchi, in interviews, said that "The Last Story" was a very similar situation, which is why it has the title it does. The naming was intentional because he wanted to put as much energy into TLS as possible, like it was actually his last game.
It's funny because most reviews talk about slowdown, but I rarely experienced it - Maybe once or twice with more action going on on-screen than most PS3/Xbox games which have shortcomings in the same area. I'll take a hiccup a couple times to play a game this beautiful and detailed.
Hmm, any technical issues? Broken controls/ai? How do you control your ai party or if they do that themselves are they any good? Uses motion controls/are they any good?
I didn't say they aren't important, I just said they aren't as important as things like story and game play. Like I know some people who only like judge a game by it's graphics alone, and when I ever ask them "Whats the story" or " How's the game play", and they always say, and I quote, "Who cares, it just needs to look good". I try to tell them that story and game play are more important than graphics, but they never listen.
Such an incredible freakin' game. The 20 hour JRPG should be a new design form. While this game is nowhere near as deep as Lost Odyssey, Xenoblade or Final Fantasy XII; it is extremely streamlined, playable and joyful. It is undoubtedly one of the best battle systems I have played in a while and it takes great features from FFXII, Vagrant Story, Valkyria Chronicles and cover based games. If it weren't for the slowdown it would be a 10/10. It is just a bit ahead of its time.
yes you do it clicks off that it does it but it does not give money nor exp till you go back to the person that gives you the quest. Not one of the quests that I have done gave me the rewards auto only clicked it off my quest lists. Not one auto gave me a thing. And you can look at the missions online and even they tell you where to find your quest giver and when they appear. I got at least ten quests done that ive not gotten the reward for and have a hard time finding the giver.
The voice actors and combat are all great, IMO. There are so many different elements involved with the battle system that I don't feel it's necessary to need 10 different combat moves for each characters. The game is chaotic and busy enough without all that. I will agree the character models look a bit stiff at times. However, the graphics are nicely polished and, in general, it's one of the best looking wii-games. Only complaints I have is the slow frame rate and the camera being too close.
@zigugu Mistwalker didn't team up with Monolith Soft on this one. It's a Mistwalker game. They designed the game then chose AQ interactive to do all the programming. Nintendo gets some credit for publishing and funding the game. Monolith Soft has nothing to do with TLS.
@woskis9161 You can barely consider it a console when you like at the games they've released. How many good games did you get in 2011 aside from zelda?
wait so does the items unlock after hours of play or is that just saying that far into the story? Like if i play for 3 hours but am not far in will it be the same as someone who plays 3 hours and is farther?
I would imagine that the experience would be a bigger driving point for the value of a game, rather then its length. NiGHTS, Metal Gear Solid, Super Mario World, and Resident Evil 1 could all be completed in a matter of a few hours. If its longevity you're looking for, try FPS multiplayer matches and MMOs. However, I wouldn't say only those specific genres deserve a 60 dollar price tag, though. With the exception of RPGs, most game are typically short, especially the action adventure titles.
Could be wrong but I think they're referring to the setting of this game. TLS takes place on an island and doesn't involve the entirety of a world. That would be my guess. That doesn't bother me though, personally.
The slow down is a problem, but like you said its not gamebreaking. The game is stil great on the wii and honestly I feel it wouldn't benefit at all except no FPS problems and slightly clearer visuals. As for the controller style, it's preferenctial. I actualy prefer the nunchuk over classic controller because the game was made for the normal style of control and it just feels much more fluid and natural.
How is the tutorial/opening? Are there a bunch of pauses to read long text boxes that explain deep mechanics only once, or is there a gradual getting accustomed to the systems?
I'm halfway through my game(chapter 26) and I've put in about 22 hours. By the time I'm done, I'll probably be over 40 hours. Believe me, it is only 20 hours long IF you rush straight through the story and don't do anything else. There are actually many things to do from exploring the city to collecting ink dyes, playing mini games, arenas, optional quests, etc, etc. It's not open-world exploration like Xenoblade(which is actually too big for me) but it's not linear like XIII either.
Control: great Ai: you can control their magic, moves, and targets but they do well on their own. Tech issue: sometimes slows up when there is too much going on. No motion control Hope this helps ^-^
The 360 or PS3 could handle some of the game's bigger sequences better. I've noticed some slow down during a chase scene and during some of the bigger battles. It's not terrible or game breaking, but it is there and wouldn't be on the HD systems. Other than that though, I agree it wouldn't make the game much better. It still plays fine on the Wii, people just need to make sure to use the classic controller pro.
I'm buying this purely as a collectors item. I feel like 10 years from now the limited edition will be a commodity. But I'm sure I will enjoy playing it.
I can say as a long-time RPG fan that this is one of my favorite games ever. It proves that even a linear, 20-hour RPG can be powerful and inspiring. The Last Story makes all those 80-hour open-world RPGs seem utterly useless by comparison.
I don't see how this game could be any better if they put it on either those two consoles aside from graphics. Besides, part of the hype for this game is the the fact that it's ON the Wii.
Esp if your higher lvls in the main game. Dont rush in at the boss you will get yourself killed and make for weak meele attacks. Work together and do your job right either meele or magic and you will get through the tough boss fights better and win important items for your main game.
I don't think that's the problem. Two genre's are played most in this generation; RPGs and Shooters. Millions of them play RPGs. The problem is that its on the Wii and it released when a lot of people don't care for the Wii anymore. Great game though.
I beat this game from start to finish in 18:45:22 without stopping but to use the bathroom and to restock on snacks it was an amazing gaming experience I give it 9.5 out of 10 grate game
Also, the problem with the more recent FF games is that they've lost their core engagement. They try to dazzle us with strikingly beautiful cutscenes, however the story is less than stellar, so they don't mean jack. They've forgotten what was originally important-- The story. Not how it was presented. The presentation is just a tool.
the game's quite different from xenoblade,so comparisions shouldnt be too prevalent I dont know,I just feel like pandoras tower is a nice way to end off the rainfall trilogy,and to me at least,its ending(s) lingered in my mind longer than xenoblade's plus its cool to look back on pandoras tower being the wii's last great game before it stopped being supported
Playing Wii games on the Wii U will still make you use the original Wii controls. You can get a classic controller for the for about 20 bucks now and use that instead.
Let's change the subject then. What would be your rating of The Last Story? Also, give a brief explanation why you would give it that rating...if you don't mind of course.
Because J-RPGs typically don't sell well on the Xbox 360 in Japan. They probably sell very well in Japan on the PS3, but not so well on the PS3 in NA. So, I imagine the Wii is a happy medium for J-RPG sells worldwide. I could be way off base here, but that's basically my theory.
@wishingwell24 Final Fantasy was known by its name because it was during a time where Squaresoft (at the time) was pretty much on its last leg. it was the be the final game released by square, but the game became a hit. idk why Sakaguchi named this game the last story, probably because he loved his work on the original final fantasy games. it comes off as being a clone in a sense though, in name and logo styling.
The GameStop where I live told me that this comes out anywhere from August 15 or 16. I told them that there website says it comes out tomorrow yet they say they were told otherwise. It will come out tomorrow for sure right?
The controls took a lot of getting used to but this is an extremely likeable game. It's kinda like Valkyria Chronicles and Dynasty Warriors in one package.
The story was great. I think people really only complained about the new battle system. I loved it though; it was much more interactive than previous ones, since shifting paradigms at the right times was thought provoking.
The Last Story needs to be remastered in HD for the Switch.
Absolutely! Xenoblade released around the same time and it is getting a the love now while this game is slowly being forgotten. The last story is on that same tier level and deserves a remake or sequel.
@@DarkFlame0wns Playing it on dolphin emulator, looks great!
Wii u bigs it up
"HD for the Switch"?
PFFT!!
@@dale3852 what do you mean bigs it up?
it could look better? It's on the wii. it's at it's limit yo
Lol, here I am with a HDMI cable from Hyperkin and Marseilles Mclassic graphics upscaler with pixel smoothing software! 😂 I'm at the pinnacle of Wii quality!
@@esk8jaimes that or a gaming pc with a dolphin elmutor lol
But it will still looks lacking compared to the current modern games
I would love for this thing to have an hd remastered version.
TamaskanLEM a portable hd version on the Switch would be godlike.
Yes please
sadly, no mistwalker's games ever got remastered.
At the beginning: Holy shit! Is that Ganondorf?!
Haha me and my older brother called him "Wanna be Ganondorf" while we were playing the game XD
Ha! Special guest host the evil Ganderp!
That was my first reaction too.
This really needs an HD update for Switch.
"It could look better [...]" "[...] Sometimes you can hear the wii growning under the strain"
Uh huh, that makes perfect sense !
Oh wait...
Just finished this game last night. It was totally worth my time and money. great music, interesting battle system and likeable characters. Ninendo was dumb for not bringing it early to the west with a big marketing campaign.
That's great to know. After watching this IGN review and taking you up on your experience with the game, gonna pick this up sometime this week.
A truly masterpiece that should be placed by anyone who enjoys any kind of fantasy adventure dressed with an excellent story, memorable characters, a superb soundtrack, an outstanding art direction and wonderful characters design. Thanks Nintendo for bringing such jewel to Europe and to the crew for reviving a genre that has been suffering so much in the current generation.
BRING THIS TO THE SWITCH
Please, all of you : Go Play this.
And if it's 60 bucks, it doesn't matter.
I played so many great Games but story-wise, this game is the best game I think I've ever played.
I wasn't prepared for all the emotional stuff going on and the depth of it all. Do yourself a favor and pick this up.
it costs around 50p here xD
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It seems like it'll be a great game, I'm not that thrilled with the combat mechanic where you run up and auto attack everyone but I'm sure it will expand once I've played more. The music and voice acting are outstanding and the story seems like it's going to be a classic.
This is the 1st JRPG i've ever played and the 1st RPG i play in a home console, AND I FUCKING LOVE IT!!!!!!!!. It's all perfect, all!!!!
A 10 out of 10 hands down!!!
BUY IT!!!!!!
agree
You missed the golden age of JRPGs. I'm so sorry
yep. nut i like action RPGs, tunr based get me damn bored :B i've been playing a lot of rpgs, but i just like action. Pokemon is the only exception.
That red haired dude looks an awful lot like Ganon...:p
I thought it *was* Ganon when I first saw him.
@@obitwokenobi9808 dorf
You can compare the turn-based system to strategy games. You don't win by having the best reflexes and timing, you win by preparing for battle and reading the situation. When you're up against a tough boss, or low on health and looking for the next save point, the battle system proves to be just as thrilling as real time.
The art book and special box aren't pre-order bonuses. All first edition releases will come with them. However, XSEED has said they are doing a limited print, so if you really want those items, your safest bet would be to pre-order. Also, if you haven't heard yet, the mini-soundtrack will be a pre-order bonus to those who pre-order from Gamestop, EB Games Canada, and Amazon. You should receive all the extras if you pre-order from one of the places mentioned above.
TIME FOR A SWITCH HD REMASTER
This is my favorite game now, or it at least qualifies. It didn't focus on this huge adventure that, when you think about it tends to just pad hours played. Instead it focused on the story and developing the characters. One of the best games ever.
@UltimateIllz Keep in mind, that's not 20 hours of 'gameplay' - that's 20 hours of story. There's the meaty online multiplayer, side-quests (about 10 hours worth according to some forum posts I saw when the Japanese version came out)...not to mention some good old fashioned exploration. Still not too lengthy for an RPG, I agree, but it's still longer than most games nowadays and it's not like it costs more because it's a JRPG and so should be longer. I say judge by quality, not quantity =)
Yep. There are different types of options where you can customize the controls. Look in the manual for more details.
Quick question: Does the length of the game (or the game itself) justify a purchase. I hear it's only 30 hours long. Xenoblade lasted about 100. I don't have an online connection for the Wii either.
Bought a wiiu windwaker bundle last week been looking for good rpgs from the wii. Picked up this and xenoblade chronicles, really loving xenoblade hadn't started the last story yet. Gonna get the metroid trilogy and both zelda's. But some recommendations would be nice
Fire Emblem Radaint Dawn
Tomas Caceres good luck finding it!!!
I WANT THIS TO BE PORTED TO THE NEW 3DS (along with Pandora Tower)
The New 3DS would not be able to handle this game. Dolphin can barely handle this and it runs Xenoblade perfectly fine.
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It's 20 hours if you rush through the story without taking the time to explore and do quests. The developer has said that the game will run 30 hours with side quests included(course, the game can run around 40+ hours if you take the time to fully explore, level up weapons, revisit dungeons for items, battle in the arenas, etc., etc.)
Being a Nintendo IP isn't why XSEED kep the NoE translations/voices. They kept them because XSEED felt it was extremely done well. They could have changed the voices/translations if they wanted to. Xenoblade's sales did not have a direct affect on what XSEED wanted to publish because Xenoblade has nothing to do with XSEED. They said in an interview that TLS fit what they look for when choosing titles to publish and some of the team member who played the game said they loved it.
I had no idea Nobuo was still making music! This makes me ridiculously excited, and I am officially sold on the Wii U. Yes I know this is a Wii game but it'll play on it :P
Well, If you preorder the game at Gamestop, you get a free soundtrack CD featuring seven memorable tracks from the game. In addition, all first edition copies come in a special box with a 40 page soft cover art book featuring concept art and all that jazz. So if you want both, I suggest preordering the game and buy it at launch.
"alongside Lost Odyssey as Mistwalker's best work"? That's a heavy claim, I'll definitely have to try this one out.
I must be slow because I'm only halfway through and I have collected about twenty hours of gameplay. Maybe it's because I take my time with everything.
"It could look better". No, not on a Wii. The game looks like an early 360 title, actually.
Interesting fact about this game. The creator of Final Fantasy originally said that Last Story would be his "Last" game, similar to how he said Final Fantasy would be his "Final" game, but again he retracted his statement but now you know where he got the title idea from.
It's also waay more combat oriented, like mass effect, so the shorter play time is rather warranted, plus you get a new game+ when you're done (It's even chrono trigger style)
In that case, what are your first impressions of the game?
Maybe sales didn't affect TLS's release directly, but the sales of Xenoblade showed that there is still indeed a market for good JRPG's in North America; more specifically on the Wii. That(probably)encouraged TLS's release.
Anyways, my point was that Xenoblade and TLS aren't in competition with each other since the release dates are almost two months apart. If they were both released within the same month, then I could have seen the competition. But two months apart? That's a bit of a stretch.
You are not forced to explore the whole field you know, you can just follow the arrow and then come back and explore for secret spots, quests, items and such later. I see no problem with it at all.
I recently bought the game. I'd say I'm around halfway through at this point. Last major game I sat through was Xenoblade.
I'd highly recommend Last Story as well. Only thing I would change at this point is how easy combat can be at times. Each party member has 5 lives per fight-sequence, including the protagonist you control. This allows for plenty of mistakes in fights.
I'm hoping for some sort of difficulty increase option once I've beaten the game.
So tl;dr, they're both amazing games.
@3000whateverman You can't really judge that from a couple of gameplay clips. What makes you think it's boring?
Sure, you can play the game and beat it in perhaps 10 hours or more, but you will be missing side quests which helps you understand other characters in the game. Plus, the game does give rewards for you exploring places like the city which continually leaves stats upgrades lying around the grounds in certain places. There is no real reason to rush the main story if there are other things to do.
I agree with your theory makes since to me. But I think it's safe to say Jrpgs don't sell on 360 anywhere not just in Japan they don't sell well in the US either. The western rpgs are the ones that sell on the 360 in the US. PS3 though I have no clue what sells on that.
Playing it for the first time right now and i love it.
it holds up so well, just replayed it this week!!
FINAL Fantasy? The LAST Story? Even fantasy and story...cmon dude...
this game was directed by the original creator of Final Fantasy
It's not you're comment I'm talking about. It's my own. One of my comments came off as rude, so I deleted it and am apologizing for it.
I think what made me love this game so much was the characters and the style.
Maybe, but sadly, it hasn't been confirmed if Pandora's tower will make it in America. They're a bit more hesitant with that one since it hasn't sold that well in Japan. I hope it does because it's the most appealing of the three games, at least for me.
@GreatTherion just because its an rpg doesnt mean it cant have combos, you cant limit combos to just hack and slash games.
I suppose it depends on what you like. If you're a fan of RPG's (and JRPG's in particular) this game is an absolute no brainer. It suffers from a little bit of linearity but the game gives you the option of re-visiting places and doing sidequests which help break it up. The story isn't really groundbreaking, but the characters are really solid and help completely glaze over any of the plot's shortcomings. The game looks beautiful for a Wii game, too. I'd definitely recommend. :) Hope you enjoy.
6/10 doesn't mean it's bad. To me, it means "rent to see if you like it" or "buy if you're a fan of this kind of game". That kind of stuff.
For some reason, I think it would be fun if JRPGs went the massive battles route. By massive battles I mean, 6-10 people involved in the fight, and the battles themselves hard as hell. It would be an action RPG of course. Couldn't imagine turn-based with something like that.
Favorite game of all time no cap bro
fancy lighting and particle effects and high resolution does not make up for bad art direction however, according to some comments that all people care about in games
Aid the meele not just attack but make sure you leave rings for them to power up their weapons for their attacks and heal them if you have the power to. Like when your fighting the Krakken its weak to fire. If your playing Yurick then stand back and blast it with your fire magic. You can get 5000 or 7000 or more Damage to the boss
The editors themselves may not work for or at gamestop but GS controls the content in the mags.
Yeah, I get it. But "Final Fantasy" was Square Enix's last attempt to make a profitable game. Hironobu Sakaguchi, in interviews, said that "The Last Story" was a very similar situation, which is why it has the title it does. The naming was intentional because he wanted to put as much energy into TLS as possible, like it was actually his last game.
It's funny because most reviews talk about slowdown, but I rarely experienced it - Maybe once or twice with more action going on on-screen than most PS3/Xbox games which have shortcomings in the same area. I'll take a hiccup a couple times to play a game this beautiful and detailed.
Is this the Xseed translation or is there a different localization in the uk?
Hmm, any technical issues? Broken controls/ai? How do you control your ai party or if they do that themselves are they any good? Uses motion controls/are they any good?
I didn't say they aren't important, I just said they aren't as important as things like story and game play. Like I know some people who only like judge a game by it's graphics alone, and when I ever ask them "Whats the story" or " How's the game play", and they always say, and I quote, "Who cares, it just needs to look good". I try to tell them that story and game play are more important than graphics, but they never listen.
Such an incredible freakin' game. The 20 hour JRPG should be a new design form. While this game is nowhere near as deep as Lost Odyssey, Xenoblade or Final Fantasy XII; it is extremely streamlined, playable and joyful. It is undoubtedly one of the best battle systems I have played in a while and it takes great features from FFXII, Vagrant Story, Valkyria Chronicles and cover based games.
If it weren't for the slowdown it would be a 10/10. It is just a bit ahead of its time.
yes you do it clicks off that it does it but it does not give money nor exp till you go back to the person that gives you the quest. Not one of the quests that I have done gave me the rewards auto only clicked it off my quest lists. Not one auto gave me a thing. And you can look at the missions online and even they tell you where to find your quest giver and when they appear. I got at least ten quests done that ive not gotten the reward for and have a hard time finding the giver.
The voice actors and combat are all great, IMO. There are so many different elements involved with the battle system that I don't feel it's necessary to need 10 different combat moves for each characters. The game is chaotic and busy enough without all that. I will agree the character models look a bit stiff at times. However, the graphics are nicely polished and, in general, it's one of the best looking wii-games. Only complaints I have is the slow frame rate and the camera being too close.
@zigugu
Mistwalker didn't team up with Monolith Soft on this one. It's a Mistwalker game. They designed the game then chose AQ interactive to do all the programming. Nintendo gets some credit for publishing and funding the game. Monolith Soft has nothing to do with TLS.
There's a lot of framerate issues during cutscenes, anyone else experience this?
It has changed. It's being released in America this month on the 14th.
@woskis9161 You can barely consider it a console when you like at the games they've released. How many good games did you get in 2011 aside from zelda?
wait so does the items unlock after hours of play or is that just saying that far into the story? Like if i play for 3 hours but am not far in will it be the same as someone who plays 3 hours and is farther?
Release Date: Q3 2012
so all you guys did was take the old review and released it to the "american IGN"
I would imagine that the experience would be a bigger driving point for the value of a game, rather then its length. NiGHTS, Metal Gear Solid, Super Mario World, and Resident Evil 1 could all be completed in a matter of a few hours. If its longevity you're looking for, try FPS multiplayer matches and MMOs. However, I wouldn't say only those specific genres deserve a 60 dollar price tag, though.
With the exception of RPGs, most game are typically short, especially the action adventure titles.
Could be wrong but I think they're referring to the setting of this game. TLS takes place on an island and doesn't involve the entirety of a world. That would be my guess. That doesn't bother me though, personally.
The slow down is a problem, but like you said its not gamebreaking. The game is stil great on the wii and honestly I feel it wouldn't benefit at all except no FPS problems and slightly clearer visuals. As for the controller style, it's preferenctial. I actualy prefer the nunchuk over classic controller because the game was made for the normal style of control and it just feels much more fluid and natural.
@illyas1 That's why he said "The WiiU is coming out, which is why not a lot of great Wii games are getting released lately. Makes sense" =) I suppose
hey, how does it play with the nunchuk and wii mote, because from the footage i've seen it seem they only use the controller pro.
How is the tutorial/opening? Are there a bunch of pauses to read long text boxes that explain deep mechanics only once, or is there a gradual getting accustomed to the systems?
Jeffery Francis The combat System gets deeper and more detailed the further you get.
EonHSD Are there multiple wordy text boxes in the beginning of the game that explain game mechanics?
I'm halfway through my game(chapter 26) and I've put in about 22 hours. By the time I'm done, I'll probably be over 40 hours. Believe me, it is only 20 hours long IF you rush straight through the story and don't do anything else. There are actually many things to do from exploring the city to collecting ink dyes, playing mini games, arenas, optional quests, etc, etc. It's not open-world exploration like Xenoblade(which is actually too big for me) but it's not linear like XIII either.
Control: great
Ai: you can control their magic, moves, and targets but they do well on their own.
Tech issue: sometimes slows up when there is too much going on.
No motion control
Hope this helps ^-^
The 360 or PS3 could handle some of the game's bigger sequences better. I've noticed some slow down during a chase scene and during some of the bigger battles. It's not terrible or game breaking, but it is there and wouldn't be on the HD systems. Other than that though, I agree it wouldn't make the game much better. It still plays fine on the Wii, people just need to make sure to use the classic controller pro.
@DarlianSantander This game isn't in HD. What are you talking about?
Is this two player on the same system or do you have to link?
One thing i hate about jrpg is that there are too many effects flowing across the screen! its sometimes hard to make out whats happening
I'm buying this purely as a collectors item. I feel like 10 years from now the limited edition will be a commodity. But I'm sure I will enjoy playing it.
So, anyone has played this yet? Is it good? Comment & elaborate.
You know what? Let's end this here. You're not getting my point and I'm not getting yours. Let's stop this conversation before things get out of hand.
I can say as a long-time RPG fan that this is one of my favorite games ever.
It proves that even a linear, 20-hour RPG can be powerful and inspiring. The Last Story makes all those 80-hour open-world RPGs seem utterly useless by comparison.
I don't see how this game could be any better if they put it on either those two consoles aside from graphics.
Besides, part of the hype for this game is the the fact that it's ON the Wii.
Esp if your higher lvls in the main game. Dont rush in at the boss you will get yourself killed and make for weak meele attacks. Work together and do your job right either meele or magic and you will get through the tough boss fights better and win important items for your main game.
I don't think that's the problem. Two genre's are played most in this generation; RPGs and Shooters. Millions of them play RPGs. The problem is that its on the Wii and it released when a lot of people don't care for the Wii anymore. Great game though.
I beat this game from start to finish in 18:45:22 without stopping but to use the bathroom and to restock on snacks it was an amazing gaming experience I give it 9.5 out of 10 grate game
wow impressive 👌👍
playing with out stopping was the best way to play this game smoke a blow and have fun
+Stephen Eubanks good work .... you must be proud of that accomplishment....
My local Gamestop won't get this game in stock until Friday. Can't! Freaking! Wait!
The Last Story was revealed yesterday, in the US.
Also, the problem with the more recent FF games is that they've lost their core engagement. They try to dazzle us with strikingly beautiful cutscenes, however the story is less than stellar, so they don't mean jack. They've forgotten what was originally important-- The story. Not how it was presented. The presentation is just a tool.
The problem after playing Xenoblade Chronicles is that all JP RPGs will disappoint you :( ....
+MexicanRmz not this one.
it's actually for that reason I recommend this game be played first
***** actually,I'd advocate playing pandoras tower after xenoblade
the game's quite different from xenoblade,so comparisions shouldnt be too prevalent
I dont know,I just feel like pandoras tower is a nice way to end off the rainfall trilogy,and to me at least,its ending(s) lingered in my mind longer than xenoblade's
plus its cool to look back on pandoras tower being the wii's last great game before it stopped being supported
not this one
I prefer Original Audio but im quite happy with the Voice over it might be better than the Original
I would have thought that the music would at least rate a mention...
Playing Wii games on the Wii U will still make you use the original Wii controls. You can get a classic controller for the for about 20 bucks now and use that instead.
@DarlianSantander Wii games aren't in HD. Wii can only do 480p/480i
do you know where i could find a copy?
Let's change the subject then. What would be your rating of The Last Story? Also, give a brief explanation why you would give it that rating...if you don't mind of course.
Because J-RPGs typically don't sell well on the Xbox 360 in Japan. They probably sell very well in Japan on the PS3, but not so well on the PS3 in NA. So, I imagine the Wii is a happy medium for J-RPG sells worldwide. I could be way off base here, but that's basically my theory.
@wishingwell24 Final Fantasy was known by its name because it was during a time where Squaresoft (at the time) was pretty much on its last leg. it was the be the final game released by square, but the game became a hit. idk why Sakaguchi named this game the last story, probably because he loved his work on the original final fantasy games. it comes off as being a clone in a sense though, in name and logo styling.
The GameStop where I live told me that this comes out anywhere from August 15 or 16. I told them that there website says it comes out tomorrow yet they say they were told otherwise. It will come out tomorrow for sure right?
The controls took a lot of getting used to but this is an extremely likeable game. It's kinda like Valkyria Chronicles and Dynasty Warriors in one package.
The story was great. I think people really only complained about the new battle system. I loved it though; it was much more interactive than previous ones, since shifting paradigms at the right times was thought provoking.