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Thanks for the Rollout ! One of my favorite strategies ! Great explanation and rollout! Enjoyed watching! Godbless
Folks really love your strats! Keep em coming. Happy new year to you!
@@ColorUpHappy New Year brother
@@waylonswaycrapsit always amazes me how your strategies never lose in your videos. How many times do you have to record a new strategy session? Just curious
@@hey-o8949proper bankroll
@@hey-o8949don’t be an a$$ these strats have both positive and negative outcomes and he gives his opinion on every video. He can record every win video he gets to show his viewers what the possibilities of a successful win it can be, then to top it all off he compares them with other strats to show the difference. I’ve been spending the last 3 hrs playing this strat and it has been nothing but remarkable.
Wow -when the Roadrunner avoids the DC it cooks! Thanks Jeremy and Waylon. I like this one -a lot.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for rolling out the strategy. You always explain strategies clearly for us new guys.
I love to helping out the new guys
Any strategy could go bad real fast depending on the dice but the way it worked out for your live roll this seems like a good strategy for a low roller that wants to risk a little more money!
I love this strategy, great job Jeremy. I run a modified dark side version of this and hedge the risk even more. I add a $25 DP bet, then a smaller $50 DC bet. I used DP & DC odds to hedge / cover big red or point hits and if either the DP or DC requires replacement, then pull or reduce the odds once the replacement is made. Otherwise, continue the Roadrunner strategy as you outline it with the continuous $25 come bets. On a longer roll I'll add odds to the 6/8.
Been playing this on the table and virtually for the last week. I love it! The only adjustment I've made is playing the pass after the point is hit if I have an established don't.
So you're doing your line bit baccarat style as Mr Waylon would say. That's how you catch the line bet win streaks, but look out for the chop.
I think this is the first time, unfortunately, that I’ve watched the entire video that you made. I really like this one!! I’ll have to test it out a bunch of times on my table. Ty
Good to see the pumpkin on the color-up!👍
I like the Arnold better. No
place bets but you have a pass line bet, a 4x DC. Once a point is established then you come bet every roll, with no odds, until you seven out or win.
It been tried on bubble craps and works great.
Really good content here. This is the best system you've tried. Even though I normally play dont's, I tried Waylons Arnold in three different versions. Got beat on all three. This is very good. I'm a normally don't player and I may very well try this.
This is Waylon's strategy, not this copycat.
😱😱😱🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 That was fire, Win win win
This one and the quarter pounder was amazing 🤩
Waylon has some amazing straps and concepts
It's a don't come bet not a lay bet behind the 8. Distinction is important because of the difference in payouts. Lay bets has vig and pays opposite of a place bet but a don't come bet pays 1 to 1.
VERY important distinction -- especially on the 4 and 10 which is double the payout on a don't come bet VS a lay bet.
Looks like the best strategy yet
Happy New Year Jeremy!!!! Thanks I will definitely play this strategy
I like this strategy, I am going to try it
Nice strat. Used this earlier today to win a couple hundred. It has its limitations but still really solid. Taking odds on the Don't if a 4 or 10 rolls can help if you stagnate.
Trying to figure out the purpose of the Come bet in this strategy.
Since you're not playing any odds, it doesn't feel like it makes you any extra money by betting the Come. Every time you hit on one of the numbers where your come bet has moved up you take back your $10/$12 bet and replace it with the come that now pays 1:1. If you then hit that number again, you get paid $25 but you immediately take that $25 and put it right back as a new come bet. So you're never actually pocketing any extra money it's just breaking even every time you hit one of your Come bet numbers. The only time the Come bet ever makes you money is on a 7 or 11, but you lose it on a 2, 3, 12.
Wouldn't you just be better off puting $125 on the Don't Come, as you are still getting paid on a 7, and replacing your $10/$12 bets as you hit them since they are at least paying more than 1:1
Hey everyone, just make sure the dealers are booking the bets properly. I just had a dealer at the hard Rock in Atlantic City totally screw me. I told him three times my hard ways were working on the come out and I had a hard 10 come out and lost out on a buck 75. Beware of dishonest dealers and that particular location. I will not go back
VERY interesting strategy!!!!!
Gotta have the bankroll for it though!
2 or 1-hit regression strategies are STILL my favorites though!
This is like the perfect bubble craps strategy.
Interesting strategy.
Should it have been $23 in change after using three greens to go across for $52?
Got cheated out of $5 LOL
This is one of the best strategys ive seen.
glad you liked
It can definitely lose a lot quickly
Any strategy can..its craps.
@@hey-o8949 I disagree that "you can definitely lose a lot quickly." I'm a don't player and this is the best light side play i've ever seen. Incorporating the DC into play is the only way you have a chance. I see players press press press then 7 all the time which is why I only play don't (but I'm willing to try this).
good one. you've come a long way🙂
Appreciate the kind words!
This looks like a fun system! Perhaps a challenge to get it working on Dicer?
at least ..you can breathe ...with this strategy...7s no threat...just the dont #...which seems less stressful...Happy New Year 🎉 2025.🛸
God dang that looked pretty effective!
Why wait after the come out roll? Wouldn't a dont come bet work the same?
It would. Some people don’t like losing multiples times to a comeout 7 to same shooter. With dont come, can still just as easily lose but only once to a shooter. Mathematically no difference and a little superstition built into waiting.
That's a great point. Zero reason to not just play DP to make the game go much faster.
I was EXTREMELY unlucky using this strat. I started with 1000, and didn't even get to shoot as 3 players rolled the 7 right on my don't come and the one guy who let my DC bet through managed to hit a point and then establish another point he immediately 7'd out on
Jeremy I'm on board with this strategy but if you're not taking odds on each come, you should just play place/buy bets. Why would you take even money when box numbers pay better?
The purpose of come bets is to act as temporary hedge. When in come, it protects almost 3 place bets for that roll.
Also any time you're dropping a new DC you should turn any place/buy bets off.
miss your poker videos! hope you return to it!
Hi Jeremy. Instead of rolling for a point, then placing a DC bet on the next roll, why not just place a don't pass on the come out roll?
Strong as elevator rope!!!
If you’re going to be working the come-out, I recommend playing $25 on the pass line. During normal play you have $125 insuring your place/comes bets ($100 DC + $25 in the come), if you don’t play the pass line you’ll only have $100 in the DC for insurance against the 7. Plus, it’ll work just like a come bet once a point is established
I agree. Looks like a hole in the strategy.
This is a good one
Comparing this one to light in the darkness strategy for cruise comps. This has a $25 less initial comp value, has a constant hole for that $100,but then also has more opportunity to win. Might try alternating this one in.
Yeah, it's a bit different but still a strong strategy.
This looks like a fun one. I would love to see you run it in dicer for 1000 random shooters and see how it holds up long term (not that 1000 is a giant sample size). How would you adjust the Come and DC for $15 table? Just increase by 50%??
In a larger sample size nearly every strategy will lose, since craps is a losing game
@ of course, but i’d like to see if it’s wildly variant (which may or may not work in your favor). More of a curiosity thing
I wonder if it doesn't make more if you use the initial bet, or part of it, for the odds on the Come bet that replaces it.
Is the total math any better to go with $15 come bet then $10 odds? Longer rolls vs shorter rolls, I'm guessing. Shorter $25 is better, longer $15+$10 better? Plus the option of odds off on a come out making big red worth more?
Could you use the place bet as odds on the come bet?
Sure could
On a $15 table, does the don't come bet 1.5x as well so you need $150 on that?
Really like this strategy, only part I don't like is the big up from investment. Still, played it out on Aw, Craps and it seems like a big winner most of the time. Of course, on the real table it'll probably throw sevens all day on the don't...
thats the gamble!
When the Roadrunner keeps hitting your DC, your bank roll goes quick. I lost a grand this evening in a couple hours. 7's only came when I needed to avoid it.
Why no odds on the come bets? Instead of place bets get the odd
If we’re opening with a DC bet why not just put it on the DP and get moving faster?
Thanks for the rollout, definitely looks like a fun high action play if your table minimums support it (I wouldn’t want to play it at a 15 or 25 min, too easy to get whacked)
PSOs happen less than come out sevens.
@ that’s not how probability works.
i'm playing this strategy on my computer with a $500 starting bankroll and I'm up to over $1400 so you can play this with less than a $2500 bankroll
Can someone explain why we shouldn't use the Don't Pass on come out instead of the Don't Come after we have a point? Is there more risk on the come out?
No more risk, same 1 in 6 chance of 7 showing. you’d have to ask the original creator. maybe because the dont pass can lose multiple times to a 7 with same shooter. In the dont come, you can only lose once to a 7 by the shooter, then dice pass.
Is there a lighter bankroll option? Is the idea that between the DC and the Come that total should cover all five Come bets?
Yes, the initial place bet win pretty much covers the come bet. If you establish a come bet all the way across, you’ll lose $125 from the comes and then win $100 from the DC and $25 in the come. Any other come bets won in the mean time is a bonus
1. Always make your place bets work on all front line comeouts.
2. Make $10 come bets with $15 odds instead ($16 for the 5/9) (more profitable).
3. Also make your come odds work on all front line comeouts.
4. Agree?
10 come with 15 odds
Nice strategy
I love betting on the come but good lord did I get rocked by ace deuce and snake eyes the last time I was at the casino never seen anything like it before 🤣
I like this one. Live too far from real tables.
It is ironic that you chose not to use a "Ladder" system by saying something like I never bet more to cover a loss...reason being...is that is the most predominant part of most of Waylon's strategies. I have been watching Waylon for years and the "ladder" portion is critical. On the other hand I like your layout and description of what and how each roll results in including payouts. Good job, thanks.
Yep. I like what I’ve seen of Waylon ideas and strats, but never agree with martingale of loses, or the new term “laddering” it’s more expensive and will bite a player hard eventually.
Waylan says he has more strategies written down that he has not shown on his channel yet.
nice
Why not just directly lay the 4 or 10 instead of the dc? This way you’ll avoid a 6/8 dc and have max odds?
You’ll need to stake double the amount as a lay on the 4/10 to win the same even bet amount you would on a DC
First!!
Love your strats! Been watching for a few years. Have def won some money using your knowledge
Thanks for being here! Keep winning and enjoy!
So -- mathematically, not socially -- playing the don't pass instead of going through the DC with no line bet is the same, right?
Ya, I was thinking that waiting for a point and then playing the DC is just wasting time and rolls.
They are the same bets, just depends if the puck is on or off
With place bets on a DC you have a chance to win on the DC without losing your place bets. You don't get that option on the DP. That's the primary reason I use the DC.
@@MrGeldhart oh that does make sense actually, thank you very much!
I’m primarily a don’t player, once you lose a few DC bets you’ll probably never catch up without getting aggressive. I don’t have the bankroll to buy enough time to recover from an early loss. Fun to watch but way too rich for me 👍🏻
This is just like the Greatest Craps Strategy video, you should be using your place bets as odds on you Come bets
Why not just play the dont pass?
Where is the hedgehog video?
If you're going to bet a don't come, why not just bet a don't pass to start?
The point was hit quite often during the live roll. A DP would have lost. The DC only lost once
@@slickrick876 Right, in this instance its better. I just usually look at strategies that "wait for a point" and I wonder why you wouldn't just start. It seems like you may as well start on the don't pass. Similarly, strategies that don't put place bets before the point is established.
@@valkerse9476 this strategy works quite well in the times I've used it on apps and at the casino. Though it can be a bit grindy with PSO happening
I like this strat but why not just press the place bets and win more than 1:1 on your bets?
If your keeping with the strategy, I’m assuming you mean why don’t you add odds when the come bet travels. You could do this if you lowered your come bet to $10 and used the place bet for odds. Doing this would lower the amount won with a 7, which is the purpose of the come bet for this strategy.
I think they mean instead of placing come bets, keep your place bets that pay out better. The only thing the come bet gets you is a payout on the 7.
Glad for this strategy -- too expensive!
I play dark side and your going to be very unpopular at the table and I play it just like this but your still playing against the table
I do not like the $25 come bet. Better would be a $10 come bet then do 15 odds which you can take from your place bet wins. I think someone else said this below me.
Maybe but that defeats purpose of the come bet hedge, the one roll when it’s a 2:1 advantage is when it’s $25 bet,
If you do odds, it’s a bet that gets paid more, but only because it’s more likely to lose.
Why not just do like 108 across so you will make more on the place bet hits?
Jeremy could you do more roll to win machines and strategies plz
I played on the roll to win table last week (lake tahoe) and I rolled 42 rolls, and the shooter that followed me
rolled 38. This strategy probably would have made some serious cash with all of those $25 come bets.
Basically this is a strokers way of playing. Dealers will do everything in their power to make sure you leave quickly.
Continuing come bets is stroking now? This is super easy for dealers
Hmm think it could be allot to lose
Going from place bets to come bets always confuses me. You go from an odds payout to 1 to 1 payout.
If your goal is to get $25 on each number, then place it. You will win more than $25.
The whole idea with the come bets is the one roll hedge against the 7 to protect all the other place and come bets that get nailed by the seven. It also opens up the possibility of winning with an eleven (1 in 18) but losing to the 2, 3, 12 (1 in 9).