TOMBSTONE is My First Western and I loved it!
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2023
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This was such a fun film to kick of westerns for me!!! I had no Idea what was going on the whole time LOL!!! and I loved it!
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Val Kilmer deserved an Oscar for this .
He was UNREAL
Absolutely, incredible performance. I said the same thing in another reactors; comments and had like 300 thumbs up in 3 days. Many people agree with this statement.👍👍
Val got straight up ROBBED at the Oscars! A damn shame, which shows how corrupt the Motions Academy is. His Acting was not to the Moon, but straight into the Stars!
Tommy Lee Jones won that year for his role in "The Fugitive" which was also good, but ultimately not unforgettable. Val Kilmer is absolutely iconic as Doc Holliday.
Well yeah, it could have been worse. Tommy Lee is no slouch, lol!@@dat1d00dx17
Doc "I know, let's have a spelling contest"
This line is by far the most hilarious. Doc is a savage.
"I have not yet begun to defile myself..." is my fave. So many uses!
That whole scene is great..."Why, Ike; Whatever do you mean?"
Doc: "I have 2 guns, one for each of you."
Kate. You are not wearing a bustle
How Lewd!@@vernonhardapple6983
Kilmer deserved the academy award for his performance here. He and Russel really protrayed what a strong male friendship is like.
Robert Mitchum as the narrator was definitely a nice touch. Man's a legend.
I love the pride in Doc's voice when he says "Wyatt Earp is my friend". You could say Doc is the definition of ride or die in this movie.
Didn't Dennis Quaid say the same thing in "Wyatt Earp"?
Hell, I got lots of friends. ...
"I don't."
@eltorocal I believe he did ...
Or at least "Morgan, Wyatt Earp is my friend; but I believe I'm beginning to love you."
@@eltorocal "Do you believe in friendship Wyatt Earp?"
Kilmer as Doc Holliday is the purest encapsulation of a Ride-or-Die friend that has ever been captured on film. Despite his many obvious flaws, he is what every guy hopes to be and have as a friend. Pure unambiguous and unconditional loyalty to your chosen brother.
"Wyatt Earp is my friend."
"Hell I have lots of friends."
"...I don't."
Such a legendary performance.
I love how even through Doc is on the brink of death Johnny Ringo is still TERRIFIED of actually dueling him. Ringo was more than confident thinking he was going to get an easy kill against Wyatt and the look of him shitting his pants when Doc walks through the shadows is priceless.
If there is a greater duel in a movie i do not know it. That entire scene is brilliant.
@@PrometheanRising The entire movie is brilliant.
"Why, Johnny Ringo...you look like somebody just walked over your grave...."
one of my all time favorite lines
The real Doc's actual last words were "this is funny" because he always thought he'd die in a gunfight rather than in bed with his boots off. He provoked so many gunfights and was so reckless in them that some have theorized that he was intentionally trying to get himself killed because he was already dying of tuberculosis anyway
Yeah didn't he contract TB when he was a teenager? Like in real life he wasn't very old when he died
I actually think he saw a light, thinking that was ironic.
@@UraniumReaperActual No. He was diagnosed after he opened his dental practice in Dallas, Texas. He actually graduated from dental school at the age of 20 but, under the law at the time, couldn't practice dentistry until he was 21. He won several national awards for his dentistry capabilities. He died at 36 years old.
Although he was diagnosed later in life, he contracted the disease from his mother in his late teens in Valdosta, GA. His Mexican step brother also contracted the disease and died prior to Doc. Although Doc Holliday is credited with only five or six killings, he shot dozens because of his quickness. He was very quick to get is gun out of the holster, but usually started shooting before he could take proper aim. The wounds he inflicted upon opponents usually ended the gunfight. He sometimes found himself on the wrong side of the law, but he was fiercely loyal and, in every circumstance, maintained his southern gentleman persona.
Cowboy is always supposed to die with his boots on. I think he was so reckless bc he never wanted the TB to win. Kind of a going out on his terms not the diseases. Hell of a way to be!
“Western violence” is like regular violence, except you wear a wide-brimmed hat and there’s usually a horse nearby.
LOVE IT!
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Now you'll definitely want to watch the movie "Unforgiven" with Clint Eastwood!
Also a very high probability of mustaches being involved.
@@holddownaseriously what does HOLD DOWN A mean?
Y’all forgot some the most savage uses of the English language. Some of the greatest lines and cut downs of all time come from westerns.
The river scene is completely historic. There were several witnesses, on both sides, that said he just kept saying no an raining down fire, like a vengeful angel or something. Nothing hit him even though he had no cover in the middle of the river. This men were epic!
Yes, it is so unbelievable that it is actually true! His duster was full of holes, he had a bullet in his boot heel, and his saddle horn was shot off. Also, he had loosened his gun belt, not expecting trouble, and his gunbelt actually slipped down to his knees and almost got him killed.
It is said that on the scene where Kilmer played Doc's death, he had the crew fill the bed with ice, and he laid on top of it, to make his trembling on his last moments more genuine.
It's a bloody absurd how he didn't get an Oscar for his role as Doc Holliday.
My favorite movie interaction ever. To truly know and feel the lines and see them executed so perfectly and with such depth. "Wyatt Earp is my friend"...."Hell, i got lots of friends"......." i don't". So many reactors cut this from the edit, so glad you appreciated it enough to include it.
For me, that brief exchange of dialogue, is almost up there with "I'm your huckleberry." It gives you brief but deep glimpse into the real man behind Doc Holiday.
@@jessecortez9449 I'm ur huckleberry is catchy and compelling in the moment. Great line. The depth and meaning behind why he's out there helping while on deaths door, and simply saying "I don't" says so much without needing explanation for me.
@@jessecortez9449 Doc is actually saying "I'm your huckle bearer," ... as in one of the men carrying your casket to the grave.
@@wiseguy01 According to the script he says "I'm you're huckleberry", not the urban legend that it's "huckle bearer".
yes i feel its the best line in the whole movie.
Hi...quick detail in Val's performance trhat I do not see folks mention is the cup twirling thing. When Doc is mocking Ringo by spinning his cup like Ringo spun his pistol, Doc actually perfectly mimics Ringo's entire twirling routine move for move after only seeing it once...you can tell how much it freaks Ringo out by the look of fear that comes over his face.
Yes sooooo true!!!
@@holddowna For other westerns that you will love, I am guessing that others will have already mentioned some of these, but definitely check out Open Range with Costner and Duvall, as well as Silverado...which stars, well, everyone. LOL And others will definitely have mentioned the work that Clint Eastwood did with the great Sergio Leone...so check out the "Dollars Trilogy" when you can. Of course, Clint also made some of the best westerns ever on his own, like Unforgiven, with Morgan Freeman and Gene Hackman as well as Clint himself.
Apparently, when not on set and the twirling scene aside, Val was twirling that cup constantly. Not sure he's ever explained why.
yeah he repeats his every move!!! Awesome
It's not so much that Doc copied him perfectly. It's that Ringo realized he was in the presence of a true gunslinger with no fear. The gun twirling was something that cattle drivers did out of sheer boredom while moving cattle across the plains for weeks on end. It was essentially their fidget spinner. Ringo, and the Comboy gang, were just bullies scaring people to get there way. Despite what movies portray the true "Wild West" was remarkable peaceful and civilized. Ringo was used to scaring people that didn't want any trouble but Doc had no fear and he knew how to use his guns as weapons and not toys.
I'm old enough to have seen this film in theaters in 1993. I took this girl I had just started dating and she wasn't a fan of Westerns. She liked some of the actors that were in the film but just wasn't a fan of Westerns. When we were walking out of the theater, I asked her what did she think and she asked me if we could come back the following weekend and watch it again 🤣. I've seen this film countless times over the years and every time....that scene with Kilmer and Russell gets me every. single. time.
Sounds like someone got lucky that evening. I like to think that when she asked you if you want to come over her place you replied: "I'll be your huckleberry".
As you have probably gathered by now, Wyatt Earp, Morgan Earp, Virgil Earp and their families, Doc Holliday, and Ike Clanton and the Cowboys gang were actual, real-life historical figures in the Wild West. The shootout at the OK corral in Tombstone actually took place largely as portrayed, with Wyatt being the only participant who was not killed or wounded in the gunfight. The incident in which Doc and the Earps were caught in the crossfire ambush at the river, during which Wyatt Earp waded out into the water amidst a hail of bullets to confront Curly Bill, also really happened. Doc Holliday’s illness made him reckless, careless with his life. His mindset was that it would be better to die in a quick, clean gunfight than to suffer a long lingering death due to tuberculosis. His performance as Doc Holliday is Val Kilmer’s best role and greatest performance. (Laudanum is a mixture of opium and alcohol, and Wyatt's common-law wife was addicted to it, which led to her death from an overdose.)
The performances in this movie were insane.
Doc Holliday was raised by an upper class Southern family to be an educated Southern gentleman. He graduated from dental school and opened his own practice. When he was diagnosed with tuberculosis all his patients abandoned him. His doctor said that the dry southwest climate would prolong his life, so he went west. He lived fast and loose knowing that he had a terminal disease. His last words "That's funny" while looking at his feet showed his amusement at dying in bed instead of a violent death in a gunfight as he expected.
I was at tomstone a few weeks ago and was shocked at how small the area of the gunfight was. They were super close to each other.😮
51tet - Even down to the Belgian shotgun Doc carried at the OK.
Make and model.
Tuberculosis had the more common name in the 19th century of "Consumption", based on how it slowly consumed you life. Horrible way to die.
Love this movie, Russel and Kilmer gave career performances.
Totally!!
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For the most classic western, see "High Noon" with Gary Cooper and Grace Kelly
There were series issues during the production of the movie and Kirk Russell took over most of the directing(uncredited) during the filming and literally willed the movie into the classic it turned out to be.
@@fionnmaccumhaill3257and "Shane" with Alan Ladd
This was the first Western movie I saw growing up and it's also one of my favorites!
Kurt Russell, Val Kilmer, Sam Elliott, Bill Paxton, Micheal Biehn, Dana Delaney, Powers Boothe, Billy Bob Thornton, Joanna Pacula, Jason Priestly, Thomas Haden Church, Michael Rooker, Jon Tenney, Terry O'Quinn, Billy Zane, Frank Stallone, Stephen Lang, Harry Carey Jr, and Charlton Heston star in this epic western loosely based on a true story.
Narrated by Robert Mitchum.
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I remember watching this in the Movies, with my friends, as were amazed by how good it was. It was first after the Movie I realized that Jason Priestly was in it (he was very well known at the time because of Beverly Hills 90210).
One of the most amazing ensemble casts ever.
Val Kilmer's "Doc Holiday" was perfection, it is a crime of Fate that Cancer took his voice, such a good actor.
Such an amazing actor and I haven’t seen him in much!
Ironically yes a lot of this was history but it was also stories that were told from person to person via family members, it was known as the Morgan vendetta and there was several members of the earp family that were together on that doc Holliday was one of the members in that group and yes he because of his tuberculosis he literally was wanting to die with his boots on on his terms and nobody else's the creek incident is actually based on actual events that actually happened and Wyatt Earp never actually did get a single scratch in that attack
I saw the documentary about Val Kilmer that you referenced. It was unbelievably eye-opening. I never gave his acting the respect that he deserves for his work. The documentary made me feel as though I knew him, it was that honest & personal. I do believe that he would be the kind of person that I would like to be friends with. I think that it would be very rewarding to sit and talk with him about almost any subject at all.
For Doc Holliday's death scene, Val Kilmer had the art department fill the bed with ice so he'd shake more and express the pain of dying from tuberculosis better... Oh yeah, fantastic reaction, thank you!!!
This has been one of my comfort movies since I saw it opening night. Still remember the _entire_ crowd rising to their feet when Doc appears, 'I'm your Huckleberry.'
If you're interested in more recent Westerns, I'd definitely suggest _Unforgiven_ - just a masterwork of film-making.
I'm 55 and have watched this movie at least 30 times and ALWAYS gets a lump in my throat MULTUPLE times throughout and have come to tears myself quite a few times.....
I always loved that Doc got so offended when Wyatt told him he didn't have to get involved. You could tell how much Wyatt really meant to him
You picked a hell of a movie for your first Western. IMHO this is the best Western made in the last 40 years. And for the most part, pretty accurate, allowing for poetic license.
Doc was from a good family in Georgia. Highly educated he was a dentist before he got tuberculosis and went west for his health.
According to Jill Sobule, the late, great Warren Zevon told her "Tombstone was his favorite movie! He should know!
Ah-Ooooh! 👹
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Val Kilmer gave my single favorite film performance ever here, and my favorite single line reading with "I don't"
Val's performance is one of the great overlooked performances by the academy
This was Based on the Lives of Wyatt Earp. His Family. And of course his Close Companionship with his BF Doc Holliday! So many Fans of this Movie, including Myself, are OUT RAGED that Val Kilmer didn't Win An OSCAR 🏆 For his Amazing Performance in This! Great Reaction Dear! So Glad you Actually listened to the Movie! ✌️
18:54 It all starts with Doc's wink. Val Kilmer did such an incredible job in this role. He and Kurt Russell, among just a ton of other great performances.
Great reaction! I would like to recommend for a classic, "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" (John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart and Lee Marvin) is one of the best! Another classic is Clint Eastwood's "The Outlaw Josey Wales". First movie he directed. For something a little more recent, "Unforgiven" Clint's final western starring His self, Morgan Freeman and Gene Hackman. Any of these will entertain you!👍👍
"High Noon" and "The Ox-Bow Incident" should, also, not be forgotten!!
Yes, for sure!
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What do you think about True Grit? I love both versions myself.@@encrypter46
The Shootist is another good one.
Oh yes, how could I forget that one?🤔👍@@PrometheanRising
Loved the reaction Ames. This is my favorite western movie of all time. Val Kilmer played Doc Holliday to perfection and he deserved an oscar for his performance.
One of the greatest movies ever made. One of my favorites for sure. Val Kilmer played Doc Holidays character so well.
Val Kilmer as Doc and DDL as Bill the Butcher are my two favorite acting performances of all time. That being said, Tombstone is a masterpiece that was put together by an amazing cast that had to deal with a very messy and rough shoot. It's amazing how good of a movie came out of it all.
I'm still amazed at how well edited your reactions are! This WAS the movie to start your Western journey 💙
By well edited, I mean I've seen a lot of reactions that are good, but don't come close to what you're able to do!
Wow, thank you! 🥲 I have no idea what I’m doing just try to tell a story and put fave parts in 🤣🤣🤣 just trying to keep learning. I appreciate the support! It means a lot!
@@holddowna He's right. You do a good job of it.
@@holddowna It's hard to edit, but yes you are doing a great job of keeping in iconic lines.
@@holddownamy movie suggestion would be "Once upon a time in the West". It might be a bit slow for a reaction, but if anybody could pull it off I think it would be you.
Both my grandfather's where 101st airborne. And where both there on D day I know one if not both where part of the battle for Bastogne and market garden .both had purple hearts and rarely spoke about it.thsts really all the knowledge I have because they didn't want to discuss it.this movie gets me emotional every time because the old man version of Ryan reminds me so much of them both.and knowing while still In there teens they went through the hell this movie so marvelously depicts.and some how managed to come home and be the best grandfather's a kid could have possibly been blessed to have is so amazing to me. I'm so grateful to them and the thousands of others like them who fought and sacrificed so much to keep us free .
It's crazy that I'm a grown man, but I still cry when I see the death scene with Doc. What a great scene!
Thanks for reviewing a western movie. I watched a lot when I was a kid with my father ( good memories )
THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN is another classic western with Steve McQueen, and an all-star cast from back in the day lol.
It's got a very different feel from this movie, but it's a timeless classic that I think you would enjoy!
Thanks for the reaction and keep smiling🙂👍
The Gunfight at the OK Corral happened on Wednesday, October 26, 1881, at around 3:00 PM...and lasted 30 seconds. The way the fight went down was as close to the real thing in the movie as it could. One thing that probably didn't happen was Doc winking at Billy Clanton. Lawrence Kasdan's Wyatt Earp starring Kevin Costner, which came out the following year, gives more context to Wyatt, as it is more of a film bio. Most people love Val's performance in this and feel he deserved to be nominated for an Oscar (I do as well), but I am hard-pressed to say which is my favorite performance of Doc Holliday...Val's or Dennis Quaid's take in 'Wyatt Earp' (as Quaid underwent massive weight loss for the role, and has some real zingers of dialogue as Val did.).
You can take the word probably and put anything behind it. But the word definitely It's much harder to follow.
Wyatt Earp is a film masterpiece, and a great western, and get's over shadowed by Tombstone because of the the more "Hollywood" and "Macho" nature of it, which I enjoy and love btw... Especially Val Kilmer and Kurt Russell's performances. Wyatt Earp being a biopic is a bit more serious in my opinion and is more of a slow burn which really draws you in.
That's about the only thing they got right in this movie. The rest is all bull. Just Hollywood trying to teach history. And getting it all fantasy.
Every western I've seen with Kevin Costner has bored me to sleep. I like Costner too, but I just haven't enjoyed him as a western lead. Unless you can somehow technically count Highway Men.
@@michaelbush1374 Not even Silverado or Dances With Wolves?
Not just my fave western but one of the my favourite films ever! From the HUGE cast (Val steals the film and Kurt was born to play Wyatt) to the snappy dialogue and badass action and cool tone in general, this is one of those films that just knocks it out of the park.
The nostalgia, I remember being 8 years old watching this for the first time with my dad and hearing him quote nearly the entire movie word for word. To this day I believe it’s in the top 3 best westerns ever made.
Straight right.
As a descendant of the Earp's, it's an amazingly authentic film and pretty accurate, too. I saw it in theaters when I was a kid. A little more violent than expected back then but it was a moving experience. The soundtrack is amazing. The film still holds up today and I believe it will always do so. The best thing about westerns or any historical film is that it does tend to give interest to delve more into the whole story. Be it with any true event, there's always more to learn. I think that's important. Thanks for sharing your video. You made great points. 👍🏻
Im an Earp Descendant too. Wyatt is my 1st cousin 5 times removed. I love the movie Wyatt Earp even more than tombstone.
The only thing I don’t like about this movie is it doesn’t give you Wyatt’s back story. He lost his first wife tragically and sent him down a dark road before he ever became law enforcement. Watch Wyatt Earp with Kevin Costner. It really helps you understand him a little better!
Cool! Ya I have no idea about who Wyatt Earp is/was! Thanks for that nugget of info 😉
I understand your argument, but there’s a reason why the movie’s titled “Tombstone”, not “Wyatt Earp”. There’s no reason why it needs to tell Wyatt’s backstory. That’s like Spike Lee complaining that “Oppenheimer” doesn’t elaborate on stories of the Japanese people regarding the effects of the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, when the movie is specifically telling one story, Oppenheimer’s.
@@maxnorton1209if you really want to know who the historical Wyatt Earp is Tombstone does not accomplish that
@@jasonhager524 Fair enough, but that wasn’t this movie’s intention. It’s just a great movie with fantastic performances. If you’re looking for more, you’re watching the wrong movie.
@@maxnorton1209 I won't disagree with you that Tombstone is a fantastic movie...I'm just saying Wyatt Earp with Kevin Costner is a better portrayal of who Wyatt Earp in history was
28:54 Never fails to make me cry. Doc begging Wyatt to leave because he doesn't want Wyatt to watch him die.
Yup. This movie is amazing. There's so many other movies that aren't half the movie this one is and they get notoriety... this should be one of the 10 Greatest movies ever.
I'm not a huge fan of westerns, but this one is a MASTERPIECE!! I won't even start with how quotable it is. The mustaches were real, the lightning was real, the cast is amazing, and it is so rewatchable!!!
"YOU TELL 'EM I'M COMIN'!!! AND HELL'S COMIN' WITH ME YOU HEAR?! HELL'S COMING WITH ME!!!"
This is one of those movies that I watch at least once a year. Just packed to the brim with quotable lines. I love it.
Hi Ames, you'll have lots of people recommending Unforgiven and The Good, The Bad, The Ugly trilogy (Dollars trilogy) - but those films are best enjoyed after having watched some other Westerns to further familiarize yourself with the genre and Clint Eastwood's western archetype. A better introduction is something like *Hang 'Em High (1968)*
Watch "High Noon" next -- it's number 27 on the AFI list of greatest movies ever, the highest-rated Western on the list by far. It's the basis for so many Hollywood cliches.
You stole my thunder, I was just going to recommend Hang'em high
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"Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave." Best line in the film.
There are just soooo many great lines delivered so expertly in this movie but when Kurt has fury in his eyes and yells "You called down the thunder, well now you've got it!" Wow! And when he leaves Doc to die in bed and says "Thanks for always being there." So moving.
The movie is a pretty decent mix of historical accuracy and fiction. Some things (Wyatt's "NO" moment in the river, the conversation when Doc meets up with the Earps and dismisses Johnny Tyler, Wyatt's relationship with Josephine), they absolutely nailed. Other things (Curly Bill killing the marshal in the street, most of what happened with Wyatt's posse, a lot of what happened with Virgil and Morgan) were HEAVILY changed. Regardless, the movie is a masterpiece of both direction and acting. Also, Val Kilmer was absolutely robbed of an award for this.
The worst part wasn’t that Val Kilmer didn’t win an Oscar for playing Doc Holliday, it was that he wasn’t even nominated.
You picked a wonderful film as an introduction to the genre.
Other suggestions: Silverado, Pale Rider, Unforgiven, The Quick and The Dead, The Magnificent Seven (the Original, then follow it up with the Japanese cinematic masterpiece that it was based on: Seven Samurai), The Hateful Eight, El Dorado, Dances With Wolves.
DWW has always been on my list! Thanks for these!!
@@holddowna I live in the area where Dances was filmed. A great showcase to my State and a seriously great flick.
Silverado absolutely!
Don't forget the Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns. And Leone's masterpiece "Once Upon A time In The West".
@@holddowna Dances with Wolves has always been in my top three. It combines amazing scenery and iconic performances with one of the best character arcs for a lead I've ever seen. It's been called a Western Epic.
The weird trivia involved around the film is amazing. Wyatt Earp's grandson was one of the cowboys in the movie. The director wound up quitting part of the way through the movie, so Kurt Russel took control of it. The actor that played Ike Clanton reportedly couldn't figure out how to act as if he were drunk, so he was just completely drunk through the filming. The scene where Wyatt is in the shootout in the river, was actually documented as happening. The movie is absolutely brilliant. The acting was phenomenal.
Absolute Classic. I miss when movies were this good.
Wonderful reactions from Ames for this INCREDIBLE western.
Tombstone becomes even more powerful and amazing, every time you see it.
The writing, direction, design, sound and special effects are fantastic, but it is the acting, from everyone involved, that is mind blowing.
Agreed! When editing I had so much more understanding and appreciation for the film!
The "huckle bearer" line people keep mentioning is a modern urban legend. "I'm your Huckleberry" was a common expression of that time, and referred to the character of Huckleberry Finn in Mark Twain's wildly popular book, "The Adventures of Tom Sawyer" (1876). In the book, Finn was Tom's best friend, but also was ready at a moment's notice to get into some mischief. So "I'm your Huckleberry" could either mean, "I've got your back" or "I'm ready to get into some mischief when you are", depending on the context.
And yet a "huckle bearer" would be lifting up a coffin by the handle . Brilliant double play by Kilmer.
@@jryanp Even Kilmer refutes the "huckle bearer" theory. And it's not in the script.
If you don’t mind investing time in a western miniseries, Lonesome Dove with Robert Duval and Tommy Lee Jones is so, so good.
"You don't say"... says this 60 yo guy from Missouri.
@@jtWrenn-qd2re John Wayne and the The Cowboys
Big Jake
Lonesome Dove - about 8 hrs. long
Silverado
Open Range
...and The Missing
I loved your squeal of laughter at Doc's mocking of Ringo with his cup twirling!
One of my favorite little details is that Fabian (Billy Zane) shows appreciation for the creativity. Also.. when he delivers the Charles V speech without flinching among the gunfire..and the Cowboys show appreciation for that.
Excellent reaction! I'm a child of the 60's, so I pretty much grew up on westerns. There are a slew of classic westerns---the genre isn't as popular as it once was. A couple of the best 'newer' ones are "Unforgiven" and "3:10 to Yuma".
Good suggestions. Unforgiven is one of the best movies ever made and Clint Eastwood at his finest.
Open Range / True Grit / Old Henrie / Dances With Wolves / City Slickers are some other favorites for me 👍
Great choice to start your Western experience! Silverado is another excellent watch. As well as all of Clint Eastwood’s films, including the spaghetti westerns. Val Kilmer’s performance was masterful. Best Doc Holiday, ever!
This was actually very historically accute for the most part. Unfortunately doc and wyatt weren't friends anymore when doc died and supposedly when wyatt killed curbill he had dozens of bullet hiles in his jacket and was never hit. Also no one really knows how jonny ringo died in real life. Its suspected a suicide but he was found dead up against a tree with a guunshot in his temple
Tombstone is my favorite, but you can’t go wrong with Home on the Range or Unforgiven.
See my comments above for all the historical inaccuracies. It is still one of my all time favorite movies. Ringo was probably killed by Buckskin Frank Leslie and a suicide was staged. Although Wyatt claimed to have killed him in the 1915 Flood Manuscript, he never repeated that story. Doc was in Colorado and had a court appearance that week, so it wasn't him.
val kilmers acting is some of the best I've ever seen. I only discovered this movie recently and i've watched it a dozen time, it's just so darn good
Val as Doc gives the best acting performance in screen history, there maybe other performances that might be as good but it doesn't get better than Val in this movie. I love this movie.
HES unreal!
@@holddowna I agree. You have a good channel I liked and subbed. Another amazing Val performance that you could make a reaction video to is a movie called Willow. It's an Awesome movie:)
The fact that Val didn't even get nominated for an oscar, let alone win one, for this role - is an absolute travesty! Especially because it wasn't just great enough to deserve being nominated and winning, it's legit one of the best acting performances in film history, irrespective of the genre or the era of filmmaking! And imo was better than the winning performance for best lead actor, let alone the winner for best supporting-actor that he woulda been competing against that year if he had been nominated. He Unfortunately, being oscar-snubbed was pretty much the norm for his career, as he was snubbed for his performances in both "Heat" as well as in the phenomenal bio-pic "The Doors." Which imo is one of if not the single greatest bio-pic ever made, and Val was phenomenal in it. So much so - that one could argue that him not winning the oscar for best actor for his performance as Jim Morrison, may be an even bigger travesty than being snubbed for his Doc Holiday performance! You love Val and you haven't yet, you gotta go check out both "Heat" and "The Doors!" He wasn't easy to work with as an actor, so he was sorta black-balled in the early 2000's, if he hadn't been i think he woulda eventually won an oscar somewhere along the way.
But even with the prime of his career being unfairly shortened, he still managed to be in plenty of great movies where he delivered great performance after great performance. From the aforementioned "The Doors" and "Tombstone," and "Heat," to then "The Ghost and the Darkness," "Alexander," and finally to his ridiculously hilarious and underrated performance in "Kiss-Kiss, Bang-Bang." (Most people haven't seen 'Kiss-Kiss, Bang-Bang," it's absolutely hilarious, and the onscreen chemistry between him and Robert Downey Jr was just next level, so much so that i think that's RD Jr's best film.
I'm your hucklebearer
That is one big travesty in the history of the Academy Awards. The other, which I'll never get over, is Shakespeare in Love beating Saving Private Ryan for Best picture.
@@josephwalther5979 Good god! And to think, i had forgotten about such an utter crime, lol. I truly don't know why as late as the late 2000's i was still somehow invested in the Oscars and still thought that merit actually played a part in determining who was nominated and who would win awards. Shoulda known long before then just how bs the Academy is!!!
Next one needs to be Open Range! Kevin Costner, Robert Duvall, and the late Michael Gambon (played Dumbledore, passed within the last week or two, RIP). Great western!
Ahh!
Watch "High Noon" next -- it's number 27 on the AFI list of greatest movies ever, the highest-rated Western on the list by far. It's the basis for so many Hollywood cliches.@@holddowna
@@holddownayes, Open Range is another great movie.
Rio Bravo, McClintock and The Horse Soldiers are 3 of many John Wayne westerns that are great.
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly is a must watch Clint Eastwood western.
I'm a fan of Winchester 73 for one of many westerns with Jimmy Stewart
@@tosweet68 If you’re going to recommend a John Wayne-John Ford cavalry movie, “She Wore a Yellow Ribbon” is the best, followed by “Fort Apache”, followed by “Rio Grande”. “The Horse Soldiers” is weak beer by comparison. And there aren’t many John Wayne movies better than “Red River.”
Lonesome dove and broken trail!!!!
Definitely the best option ever to start youre western journey. Legendary classic film
Always love witching young people not only learning about movies but getting a small taste of history.
Hi Ames!😊 This is one of my favorite Westerns. Kurt Russell has been known as an underrated actor for many years. Doc's last words were "Isn't that funny?". He always thought he'd die with his boots on, but he was looking down at his bare in bed. Val Kilmer deserved an Oscar in my opinion! 🥇My other favorite Western film has a smaller main cast, but some exceptional performances. It is the remake "3:10 to Yuma" (2007). The two main stars are Christian Bale & Russell Crowe. But Ben Foster gives a great performance too. Great reactions to this very well-made film, Ames!!!🎬👏👏👏👏
" ... the Mysteries of the Roman Church."
It's so good to see more people finding the western genre. They hold some of the best acting and best stories you'll ever find. Personally, I'm hoping for a reemergence at some point.
Reemergence? What for? To be yet another platform to adress racism, transphobia, patriarchy, etc? Tombstone barely taps Western's legacy; there's an ocean to be discovered as it is, from Great Train Robbery to Unforgiven.
I lived in Tucson for 20+ years and took a tour of Old Tucson Studios where this was filmed. I was able to walk to same streets as these actors and others like John Wayne. Great place to visit.
I’ve seen many reactions of this movie. A lot of people butcher the editing & you don’t get to see the reaction of some good scenes. You pretty much nailed it…Thank You!! Great Reaction!!
This is a great genre to explore and don't sleep on the 'spaghetti' westerns they offer a unique take.
Glad you enjoyed this.
Give Silverado (1985) a try.
And then to get into classics.
Stagecoach 1939
High Noon 1952
The Searchers 1953
The Long Riders 1980
Dances With Wolves 1991
Unforgiven 1992
And I think No Country for Old Men (2007) qualifies.
I have mixed feelings about Westerns so my picks are idiosyncratic. There’s a lot of bad Westerns out there.
Good luck. Thank you for your thoughtful reactions.
Val Kilmer (who most people thought gave the most Oscar worthy performance of his career) said that the director that was brought in after the 1st one left, was not doing well. He kept going to Kurt for help and most of the actors felt Kurt was directing. Val said that although Kurt gave a brilliant performance having to practically direct and even do rewrites on the script probably hurt his performance. Val also said that if not for all that Kurt would have won the Oscar. The characters were real people. Most of what was shown (witha small allowance for literary license) was true. Wyatt once got into a gunfight with multiple bad guys. After which they counted nearly 20 holes in his coat, but not a single shot hit him. There is an old saw about guys like gunfighters and soldiers that they prefer to die with their boots on. Meaning doing what they do and on the battlefield or field of honor. That is what Doc was referring to when as he lay dying he looked at his bare feet and said "This is funny". A man who never backed down from anything. Taken down by tuberculosis. Great reaction by you. You were obviously engaged and in the story, and it showed. I am subbing and will get to catching up on your videos. For more good westerns you might try Silverado, The magnificent seven (the 1960 original), The Shootist or True Grit (again the original with John Wayne).
It's one of the greatest injustices in movie history that Val Kilmer didn't win an Oscar for that incredible performance as Doc Holliday. What an actor.
For classic westerns you can't beat John Wane unless its Johan Wain and Maureen O'Hara. My all-time Favret featuring them was McLintock. What a lineup of big names. You're in for some real treats and I envy you seeing them. Thanks for sharing your adventure with us. Bless and be well.
One of my absolute favorite movies, top 10. The irony is I just watched this last night, beginning to end. Great reaction, as always and like ive said before, you are my new favorite reactor!
I was a Production Assistant on this movie.
To get the emotion in Doc Holliday's death bed.... Val Kilmer laid on a mattress covered in crushed ice, to get the shivers.
So the shaking and discomfort was because of him freezing on the bed. He actually urinated during one of the takes !
For serious encounters Doc Holliday carried a 10 gauge sawed off double bbl.shotgun slung under his arm covered by his longcoat and two revolvers. Thanks for your reaction to this movie.👍👍👍👍
Good one, Ames! This is such a great movie. So, lots of really good westerns for you to catch up with. The original True Grit with John Wayne will tickle you. The Coen Brothers remake was really good too. Silverado is lots of fun with another super cast. Open Range is great and the Lonesome Dove mini-series with Robert Duvall...and the list goes on, LOL! Glad you enjoyed your first western. Thanks for sharing it! 🙂
This was really the first western I watched all the way through. Val Kilmer alone was more than worth the price of admission (this is tied for Real Genius for favorite performance), but the cast is so stacked, it’s an embarrassment of riches.
Then I saw Unforgiven and that opened removed any reason not to watch modern westerns.
It’s so stacked I had NO idea! Thanks so much for watching an leaving your comment!
I highly recommend The Doors. Val Kilmer plays the lead singer, and it's pretty dang good.
I've always loved this movie. My commentary:
1) That cemetery at the beginning actually exists, as does the Lester Moore tombstone.
2) Wyatt was asked if he considered himself a married man. "Yah, I guess so." They weren't legally married.
3) The gunslinging in the saloon. It was very educational for Curly Bill. Ringo should have paid better attention. Even as sick and as drunk as he was, Holliday was able to copy Ringo's movements perfectly with his shot glass.
4) Don't judge Doc's girlfriend too harshly. She already KNEW how Doc functioned. He'd do what he wanted and live and die on his own terms. She simply let him be who he was and accepted him as such. She wasn't a bad person.
5) You need to watch Dances with Wolves with Kevin Costner.
I’m a “The quick and the dead” man myself, but this isn’t bad
Cool! Can’t wait to watch it!
Because these are actually people from history lol
Even though the facts are up in the air. They don't know for sure doc killed Ringo and a good reason they probably gave him that weird shot when he shot ringo because in reality the entry of the bullet was at a spot more indicative of suicide from what I read long ago. but doc definitely was a gunfighter and to some considered a murderer. Quick and the dead. Not so much.
The quick and the dead is OK
this movie is just about one of the best movies ever made imo
@@msabccbscnnoanfoxnews well, while I don’t agree that it’s one of the best of all time, it is fantastic, and i agree. It’s a better made movie. Hardly means I can’t enjoy another movie better.
Man what are the odds, I also just recently watched Tombstone for my first Western and I love it too. Awesome reaction 👍🏼
Wonderful when ladies like westerns! Great job!
You definitely picked a good one to start your Western journey, Ames! This is one of my faves for all the reasons you mentioned. The acting, writing, and direction are top-notch and they got you to laugh and both cry so the film succeeded on so many levels. One of these days you must introduce us to your co-host who appeared at 6:32!! 🐺
Nice, moving reaction. Two underappreciated Val Kilmer films are "Spartan" and "Blind Horizon" (especially this one). Stellar cast mates who appeared in BH are Sam Shepard, Neve Cambell and Giancarlo Esposito of "Breaking Bad" and "Better Call Saul". Interesting fact: Kilmer turned down the lead for "Blue Velvet."
Never seen those!! Thanks for watching and the reccos!
I love Spartan
With its tight plot and Val Kilmer delivering dialogue penned by David Mamet, "Spartan" absolutely shines and is criminally underrated.
"I'm your huckleberry" will forever be the most iconic line spoken in cinema.
This actually is the, “shooting at the O.K. Coral,” that’s still talked about. The tombstone in the beginning is still really in Tombstone, AZ too.
Watch Clint Eastwood's UNFORGIVEN next.... won best picture 1992 and Best Director (Clint Eastwood) ; along with best supporting actor (I forget if it was given to Morgan Freeman or Gene ackman) 1992 it's the anti-western...Western.
Unforgiven is a classic
1 of my fave movies of all time... Unforgiven is a classique
This is the best recommendation of the century.
Listen to AE Wind, he is the kindest smartest man I ever met.
@@Starl1ghtPrincess you are a true sweetheart, I will enjoy the reaction when HOLD DOWN A get's around to Unforgiven.... I drank a bit 2 much tonight but I promise y'all that Unforgiven is arguably my favorite movie,
So glad you liked your first western and want to go deeper.
You’re gonna find a vast array of sub genres (Sci-fi, Spaghetti, Comedy, Thriller & many more) and differences in westerns and incredible stories. Please let us know if your taking suggestions, I’d love to throw some classic & modern westerns in the ring and maybe some oddities.
You could do a whole series of just OK Corral movies:
My Darling Clementine 1946
Gunfight at the O.K. Corral 1957
Hour of the Gun 1967
Doc 1971
Wyatt Earp 1994
For classic Westerns
Shane
The Searchers
The Man Who Shot Liberty Vallance
Rio Bravo
How The West Was Won
A Man Called Horse
Dances With Wolves
So many more…
To any list of great westerns add a few John Wayne films:
Stagecoach
Red River
Sons of Katie Elder
Big Jake (very violent)
The Shootist (Wayne’s last movie + Ron Howard)
McLintock (a great comedy western - John Wayne does “The Taming of the Shrew”)
In the sub genre of Cavalry movies you can’t beat John Ford’s Cavalry Trilogy: Fort Apache, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, and Rio Grande. John Wayne considered. “She Wore a Yellow Ribbon” to be one of his best movies.
As far as non-John Wayne westerns:
3:10 to Yuma (either version)
The Outlaw Josie Wales (great performance by Chief Dan George)
High Plains Drifter
High Noon
The Great Northfield Minnesota Raid
Kilmer truly deserved an Oscar for this.
Unreal!
Beautiful movie. It’s like a Fredric Remington painting come to life.
You'll love...
- 'Unforgiven' [1992] directed by Clint Eastwood (starred by Clint Eastwood, Morgan Freeman & Gene Hackman), 4 Oscar winnings (best picture included) of 9 Oscar nominations.
- 'True grit' [the 2010 remake] directed by the Coen brothers, 'The big Lebowski', remember? (starred by Hailee Steinfeld, Jeff Bridges, Matt Damon & Josh Brolin), no Oscar winnings but 10 Oscar nominations.
Bah! Been wanting to watch True grit for a long time!
#1 Western of all time
I played as an extra in this movie. We didn't get paid, but we got catering every day. I even got a piece of the set to take home with me. One of the red sashes and I still have it somewhere in the attic.
One of, if not the most quotable movies of all time. Surprisingly very accurate, depiction of events as well. What is really interesting is that it came out so good. Apparently, all the actors hated the director and there are rumors that Kurt Russell was the behind-the-scenes director.
One of my all time favorite movies!
Tombstone, one of my favourite westerns, but my all time favourite movie is "Dances with Wolves" which is one of the few big westerns viewed from a native american perspective. The feeling and scenery is simply stunning
After this had been in regular theaters, it made the rounds of Cinema-and-Draft house type theaters where they played movies a few months old and had cheaper ticket prices, and it really drew the fans. My buddies and I saw it there three or four times alone.
Then video and DVD sales furthered it's popularity.
Never tire of seeing it to this day.
Great script + great cast = incredible show!
Unforgiven, and The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, are both very much worth the watch.