I'm just sick of one day I can go from having games shooting 14/16, 9/10, 10/12 from three, then the next day with the same jumpshot I'm going 1/8, 3/12, 4/16 lmao.
You probably are just not consistently timing your jumpshot well all the time. Everyone has off days but it really is annoying when people just blame their own bad shooting on 2k. Just take the blame for it and move on to the next one and you’ll be so much more successful
Look it's simple, the opponents badges matter more than yours. Your badges are the constant. So you won't change. For example you shoot better against a bronze challenger than a HOF. You defend shots better against a bronze slippery/ set shoot combo than you do against a hof combo. (you can literally see the difference in your closeout animation speed). Try to think of it like this, badges work against you and your opponent than they do for you or your opponent. Ultimately, Just pass the ball more and the game will get easier
Love this comment quite simply explained and very true. Also I don't think it'll make people move the ball more cause 2k just doesn't reward playmakers as much as they encourage greedy ball hoggin ISO play.
My guy always complains like man I got legend whatever badge lets say layup Mixmaster I tell him what if the guy guarding you has hof or legend themselves that's gonna slice the percentage of making a contest tough as hell oppose to someone with low and 3 months of the game being out in everybody has the same builds at every position
Y’all just need to understand 2k is less about making sense and being practical but more about how to make the most money. How to get players to make the most builds . Thats it
@@nowhalewdym by off the dribble? Taking fades moving shots etc or you mean dribbling/combo moves and running behind screens. Because the shots are essentially the same, you still shooting open the only difference is your stamina which will speed up or slow your shot.
@@brandonfeliciano4615Naw man. He's talking about a Stand still shot vs moving/fading/dribbling shot. Those are definitely not the same and will be a huge difference from 94 vs 80 if they're both shooting on high-risk
@@iTROLLxTHExTROLLZ well I rhythm shoot and for me it’s essentially the same, especially if it’s but naked wide open and I only take open shots. I only feel the difference when people get lights contests and late close outs.
So my request since day one of playing 2k in 2k19 and every year since of them removing badges ( a variable ) hopefully makes more sense to people and they will start to agree and request things like badges being removed or left in a more arcade mode. Give us heavy weighted attributes that cost a lot in the builder to help with balance but provide a simpler algorithmic experience.
What I’ve noticed about shooting is that most players with a high 3pt rating, shoots a lower percentage simply because they take crazier shots expecting to automatically make everything. I shoot 45% on my PG with an 87 3pt rating and 43% on my big with a 78 3pt rating, and i have no midrange on any of them so i only have bronze and silver badges. And i’m not only shooting C&S jump shots, maybe 50% of my shots with the PG are off the dribble. And i don’t use rythm shooting either
can we discuss how bad pogo stick is? there’s so many moments where i jump to contest a layup, they miss, but i can’t recover fast enough to get the rebound
An intro to Psychology and stats would help tons of 2K players understand how your brain is unreliable at giving you correct information and how averages work
honestly playing MyTeam for awhile will show you how useful or useless a badge really is cuz you can apply it without any attribute change & directly see what kind of difference it makes. that’s how i figure out my most important badges pretty much every year
The game is just tooo dependent on animations and not actual gameplay. I learned it’s just depends on the animation that 2k EOMM AI system uses and choose for you. This game is soo inconsistent
@ well if I was an multi billion dollar video game company, I would implement an actual system to combat cheating and not put 3 thousand different jump shot speeds in the game. I wouldn’t make the game where it seems completely animation dependent because that causes unappealing gameplay. In what world after Anthony Edwards’s hits 2-4 shots in a row and then my next defensive decision is to leave him wide open. You cannot disagree with this statement: 2k24 is objectively better than 2k25 in gameplay however 2k25 has better quality of life options than 2k24. But that was the whole marketing strategy for 2k to begin with. And I’m actually good at the game, before I deleted the game I was shooting 55% from 3 and had an inside shaq build average 16.5 points and 17.8 rebounds. The contest system is completely useless and garbage. Literally if they even tried to build off of last year just at least 50%, this would be at least 5times a better game.
@@mccarthymorival6280You gave no actual answer or solutions to the problems you are complaining about. You just said you’d “do better” with no explanation of what that would be. The only resemblance of a solution was to build off 2K24 which was just as animation dependent.
@@mccarthymorival6280 Aye man you just rambled about a bunch of nothing with no solutions to the problems. I simply pointed out exactly what you did and how even though you typed a lot of words you didn’t say much of anything. Maybe have real solutions next time my guy or say nothing. Cause whatever you said the first time was not it.
I feel like 2k development team is silent quitting. Doing the bare minimum and probably auto pilot. Never seen a 2k where it felt like august after only being 2 months in. These sliders are awful, #RemoveRNG #BringBackSkill
Live vs 2K. Playing 2K has several variations. Online vs offline, 2v2/3v3 vs Rec, MyTeam vs MyCareer vs MyLeague. All are different gaming experiences. Live it’s the exact opposite. Live is Live. Online and offline had the same gameplay. Your opponents were the differences. No one can tell me Black Top on 2K is the same as 2v2/3v3/5v5. They’re not the same.
Thats not even the problem. The problem is the over reliance on too many badges that shouldn’t even be in the game. Iirc a 99 3pt rating is like only 2% better than an 85 with perfect in terms of fg%. If they got rid of the unnecessary badges like set shot specialist that do the same job as the shot ratings, both attributes and badges would feel more impactful and we would be in a much better position.
Tutes u dont talk enough about momentum/handicap/scripting… it’s more important than any rating or badges. Its the real reason you’ll make everything 1 game, then move like a snail 5 turnovers 0/7 the next game.
I see what you mean but as a stat-based channel, i need to have a reasonable evidence (which is hard to gather) first before I can speculate on that topic. The game has fluctuating latency so some could think that whatever you are describing is just because of that fluctuation.
servers bro servers. every huge sports game has the same problem online. the reality is most people arent as good as they think, which makes sense because most of us have jobs and lives.
I know this would be pretty hard to test, but can you test how frequently 2k updates sliders for online gameplay? I thought it was rng but one day I got on and my guy was fast asf and another day he was so slow. Part of me feels like they just switch the sliders often so there’s never a consistent meta.
I would like to see a video on how consistent challenger is or how to consistently activate it because you can get a jumping contest on a jumpshot and challenger will not activate but at times I run towards the shooter and get an open contest and challenger activates, Its frustrating to see my legend defending badges not activate consistently.
I know you already said challenger doesn’t work how we want it this year but it still urks me when I see my challenger legend pop up and they still make a green in my face 😂😭
Badges are useless and I just confirmed it tonight i got a 7'3 rebounding rim with a 96 shot close and I be greening post hooks without hook specialist smh. But with my post who has it on hof and has a 94 shot close I dont hit as consistent lmao.
I’m so sick of people complaining it’s not the badges it’s you bro in the video said pick dodger and rebound chaser don’t work 😂😂😂 like bro the only issue this year is shooting is super inconsistent
no badges are great you guys are just looking at it in the wrong way.. badges allow 2 players who have similar builds to make different kinds of players/playstyles based on badge choice
I was pretty.convinced that tutes test were totally legit amd not saying that his test are not but tutes you dont test online and most play online so do these stats really truthfully apply i mean tutes u urself have admitted.plenty of times that you dont test online. So with that said got do your own testing or research sometimes.
it doesnt matter where the testing is done as long as when youre testing you do it in a consistent environment. even if the exact percentages are not the same as online, the point is to see the change from one test to another. so even if you would shoot 10% better offline than online or wtvr, youll still see the same change from test a to test b. that percentage of change can be applied to the game as a whole even if your initial test results could vary depending on gamemode
This video is a proof that you should go and learn statistics. It will really help you analyze those things better. You are making statical mistakes in some of your video. Specifically i would suggest you to read about design of experiment (DOE), for your testings that you are doing. Hope you'll read this comment. Peace my friend.
Thanks for the feedback, but it doesn't need to be that deep. If my niche is about accounting, financing, etc. then yeah I probably need to focus on that part. I'm covering a basketball video game. To be honest there were some cases that my analytics were overkill to some viewers because i have some around 9 year old viewers that that haven't finished school yet. Even this simple explanation in this video could be overkill already to the younger side of my audience.
Right I guess that’s why every guard in stage, any pro am league or proving grounds is running a 70 3ball and 80 middy. You just to comp huh. If only the 2k league was still around you’d be the first draft pick bc you so comp.
I have a 75 3 ball guard and a 99, they are the same. Sometimes I shoot better with the 75. I do have a 94 midrange so I get good badges but there should be a difference from 75 to 99
@@ajchicago i mean what do you want out of it? 100% make rate at 99? why would anybody run anything else. the badges help, its proven. so what are you looking for? 75 and 99 are not the same lol
You just aren’t good at shooting and probably don’t have the right settings on. Use no meter and high risk and keep practicing. My lowest three point build is a 73 with silver and I shoot 65%and I almost only rhythm shoot on it unless it’s a super fast catch and shoot. You’ll get there just keep practicing.
@@zach4535Nah RNG be screwing with people. I admit i'm not a great shooter but tell me why my build with 66 three ball and hof set shot (because of 93 middy) can hit 3 triples a game but my pure sniper with 98 middy and 93 3 ball all legend shooting bricks every few games. Not a coincidence
I have the exact same 3pt rating, and once I found a shot I like, I have been hitting consistent greens. I'm using michael porter jr. No shot works for everyone though. Go through the preset jumpers you can use and find one you like
We beggining the arc of explaining how game mechanics work to 2K players
Its kind of sad and wild at the same time
Takes bad shots/dunks/layups “Game is ass” 😂
Most of them never played other rpg games or other games in general 😭😭
This was bound to happen.
@@MrZablon bad takes in this 2k go in more then good ones that's what makes this game trash lmao
I'm just sick of one day I can go from having games shooting 14/16, 9/10, 10/12 from three, then the next day with the same jumpshot I'm going 1/8, 3/12, 4/16 lmao.
😂 beginner
Timing stability is relevant and I do think 2k adds some daily updates to the sliders to keep players on their toes
You probably are just not consistently timing your jumpshot well all the time. Everyone has off days but it really is annoying when people just blame their own bad shooting on 2k. Just take the blame for it and move on to the next one and you’ll be so much more successful
You’re probs not that good as you think you are. Some people have been playing the game for over 10 years and still can’t time shit
Then your shot isn’t falling so do something else. A layup/dunk, assist, play defense. There’s other ways to have fun except shooting.
Look it's simple, the opponents badges matter more than yours. Your badges are the constant. So you won't change. For example you shoot better against a bronze challenger than a HOF. You defend shots better against a bronze slippery/ set shoot combo than you do against a hof combo. (you can literally see the difference in your closeout animation speed). Try to think of it like this, badges work against you and your opponent than they do for you or your opponent. Ultimately, Just pass the ball more and the game will get easier
U the goat for this comment
Facts. This game is all about ball movement and nobody seems to get that
Love this comment quite simply explained and very true.
Also I don't think it'll make people move the ball more cause 2k just doesn't reward playmakers as much as they encourage greedy ball hoggin ISO play.
This was better than whatever Tutes was rambling on about
My guy always complains like man I got legend whatever badge lets say layup Mixmaster I tell him what if the guy guarding you has hof or legend themselves that's gonna slice the percentage of making a contest tough as hell oppose to someone with low and 3 months of the game being out in everybody has the same builds at every position
Y’all just need to understand 2k is less about making sense and being practical but more about how to make the most money. How to get players to make the most builds . Thats it
The whole Take2 interactive company is useless at this point 💀💀💀
2k needs to do a event without badges. Just playing with your with attributes you have
This is a great idea
No the system pays them why sacrifice the bottom line when ppl will keep buying new builds
Then yall gone complain against that because players with 99 attributes are going to dominate as they should
Even attributes pass 80 feel like diminished returns. In game 94 and 80 3pt rating feel really similar
Only if you shot wide open standing shots. If you shot off dribble you will definitely feel the difference
@@nowhalewdym by off the dribble? Taking fades moving shots etc or you mean dribbling/combo moves and running behind screens. Because the shots are essentially the same, you still shooting open the only difference is your stamina which will speed up or slow your shot.
@@brandonfeliciano4615Naw man. He's talking about a Stand still shot vs moving/fading/dribbling shot. Those are definitely not the same and will be a huge difference from 94 vs 80 if they're both shooting on high-risk
@@iTROLLxTHExTROLLZ well I rhythm shoot and for me it’s essentially the same, especially if it’s but naked wide open and I only take open shots. I only feel the difference when people get lights contests and late close outs.
Besides if your rating it lower than an 85 you shouldn’t be taking them type of shots unless your really like that with the sticks
It’s kinda unfortunate you have to make this video
I feel you
@@nba2ktutes🤨
0:02 What pisses me off about unpluckable is I never see it pop up until after someone steals the ball from me because why add insult to injury?
Or like legend immovable popping up when you just get tossed out the way doesnt make any sense
So my request since day one of playing 2k in 2k19 and every year since of them removing badges ( a variable ) hopefully makes more sense to people and they will start to agree and request things like badges being removed or left in a more arcade mode. Give us heavy weighted attributes that cost a lot in the builder to help with balance but provide a simpler algorithmic experience.
What I’ve noticed about shooting is that most players with a high 3pt rating, shoots a lower percentage simply because they take crazier shots expecting to automatically make everything.
I shoot 45% on my PG with an 87 3pt rating and 43% on my big with a 78 3pt rating, and i have no midrange on any of them so i only have bronze and silver badges. And i’m not only shooting C&S jump shots, maybe 50% of my shots with the PG are off the dribble. And i don’t use rythm shooting either
Almost every single pg i face with a 99 three goes like 2/7 or worse in park and like 4/15 in rec.
@@1isoneskilled based matchmaking 💀
Been gold and purple plate all year, starter 4
can we discuss how bad pogo stick is? there’s so many moments where i jump to contest a layup, they miss, but i can’t recover fast enough to get the rebound
An intro to Psychology and stats would help tons of 2K players understand how your brain is unreliable at giving you correct information and how averages work
honestly playing MyTeam for awhile will show you how useful or useless a badge really is cuz you can apply it without any attribute change & directly see what kind of difference it makes. that’s how i figure out my most important badges pretty much every year
The game is just tooo dependent on animations and not actual gameplay. I learned it’s just depends on the animation that 2k EOMM AI system uses and choose for you. This game is soo inconsistent
How would you make the game?? Really interested in your solution
@ well if I was an multi billion dollar video game company, I would implement an actual system to combat cheating and not put 3 thousand different jump shot speeds in the game. I wouldn’t make the game where it seems completely animation dependent because that causes unappealing gameplay. In what world after Anthony Edwards’s hits 2-4 shots in a row and then my next defensive decision is to leave him wide open. You cannot disagree with this statement: 2k24 is objectively better than 2k25 in gameplay however 2k25 has better quality of life options than 2k24. But that was the whole marketing strategy for 2k to begin with. And I’m actually good at the game, before I deleted the game I was shooting 55% from 3 and had an inside shaq build average 16.5 points and 17.8 rebounds. The contest system is completely useless and garbage. Literally if they even tried to build off of last year just at least 50%, this would be at least 5times a better game.
@@mccarthymorival6280You gave no actual answer or solutions to the problems you are complaining about. You just said you’d “do better” with no explanation of what that would be. The only resemblance of a solution was to build off 2K24 which was just as animation dependent.
@ nah bro you just wanna argue 😂😂😂😂and it’s okay
@@mccarthymorival6280 Aye man you just rambled about a bunch of nothing with no solutions to the problems. I simply pointed out exactly what you did and how even though you typed a lot of words you didn’t say much of anything.
Maybe have real solutions next time my guy or say nothing. Cause whatever you said the first time was not it.
Take a shot for every "Ah Tutes" every video lol. Good work man
Keep up the hard work you’re doing great. This channel is headed to the top.
Attributes and badges go hand in hand, meaning you can’t have legend with low ratings but defense boost and others factor in to effectiveness…
Bro gonna be doing maths lessons soon teaching weighted averages and expected values soon. If you need a stats professor call me 😂😂
I feel like 2k development team is silent quitting. Doing the bare minimum and probably auto pilot. Never seen a 2k where it felt like august after only being 2 months in. These sliders are awful, #RemoveRNG
#BringBackSkill
Ngl interior defense needs to be nerfed for out of position defense
Live vs 2K. Playing 2K has several variations. Online vs offline, 2v2/3v3 vs Rec, MyTeam vs MyCareer vs MyLeague. All are different gaming experiences. Live it’s the exact opposite. Live is Live. Online and offline had the same gameplay. Your opponents were the differences. No one can tell me Black Top on 2K is the same as 2v2/3v3/5v5. They’re not the same.
HONESLTY, we need to get back to the bronze-gold phase. That’s it. It’s to many levels at this point
Thats not even the problem. The problem is the over reliance on too many badges that shouldn’t even be in the game. Iirc a 99 3pt rating is like only 2% better than an 85 with perfect in terms of fg%. If they got rid of the unnecessary badges like set shot specialist that do the same job as the shot ratings, both attributes and badges would feel more impactful and we would be in a much better position.
@@Kdar088legendary badge encourage toxic low iq builds.
Tutes can you test if a 6’4 guard gets contested less and or makes more a higher percentage of contested shots than a PG with mini marksman
Tutes u dont talk enough about momentum/handicap/scripting… it’s more important than any rating or badges. Its the real reason you’ll make everything 1
game, then move like a snail 5 turnovers 0/7 the next game.
I see what you mean but as a stat-based channel, i need to have a reasonable evidence (which is hard to gather) first before I can speculate on that topic. The game has fluctuating latency so some could think that whatever you are describing is just because of that fluctuation.
servers bro servers. every huge sports game has the same problem online. the reality is most people arent as good as they think, which makes sense because most of us have jobs and lives.
I never liked the idea of badges.
They need to get rid of badges for 26.
Let the attributes, animations, in game skill & iq speak for itself.
Does anything really matter at this point? Lol. RNG makes it an even playing field. Even when ya win it’s gonna be dramatic af for the most part
Can you do a test to see how much wingspan affects rebounding even with the same attributes?
Does wingspan affect dunking? For instance a 7’0 standing dunk w max/min ws
I know this would be pretty hard to test, but can you test how frequently 2k updates sliders for online gameplay? I thought it was rng but one day I got on and my guy was fast asf and another day he was so slow. Part of me feels like they just switch the sliders often so there’s never a consistent meta.
They’re worthless? Cool. Post up on the Auction House cheap, I’m looking to buy up useless things.
I would like to see a video on how consistent challenger is or how to consistently activate it because you can get a jumping contest on a jumpshot and challenger will not activate but at times I run towards the shooter and get an open contest and challenger activates, Its frustrating to see my legend defending badges not activate consistently.
I activate challenger every time I put my hands up without jumping.
Challenger activates everytime you put
A hand up or jump and mine is only gold rn but I get it legend your just bad 😂
I know you already said challenger doesn’t work how we want it this year but it still urks me when I see my challenger legend pop up and they still make a green in my face 😂😭
interior defense vs block rating
Badges are useless and I just confirmed it tonight i got a 7'3 rebounding rim with a 96 shot close and I be greening post hooks without hook specialist smh. But with my post who has it on hof and has a 94 shot close I dont hit as consistent lmao.
I’m so sick of people complaining it’s not the badges it’s you bro in the video said pick dodger and rebound chaser don’t work 😂😂😂 like bro the only issue this year is shooting is super inconsistent
Basically your saying its rocket science just to shoot decently in 2k25 and play casual
🔥 video once again . I want RNG out of the game .
Thanks for the love
The game is just depressing.
Try shooting with a 99 3 but ZERO badges. Good luck
Can you try 90 speed vs 85 speed
Just play basketball. It’s really that simple.
Conclusion: the average 2K player is useless
Aka Badges ended the game era
??? Probably the stupidest comment i’ve seen yet
@@shmeepurtbro thought he cooked too lol
no badges are great you guys are just looking at it in the wrong way.. badges allow 2 players who have similar builds to make different kinds of players/playstyles based on badge choice
Tutes we need a free throw video. We can't even practice those. How are 100% free throws ends in a missed attempt?? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Hey tutes how you doing
plis test legend strong handle with 84 strenght vs 93 strenght
Test challenger, it doesn’t pops up to me
I was pretty.convinced that tutes test were totally legit amd not saying that his test are not but tutes you dont test online and most play online so do these stats really truthfully apply i mean tutes u urself have admitted.plenty of times that you dont test online. So with that said got do your own testing or research sometimes.
it doesnt matter where the testing is done as long as when youre testing you do it in a consistent environment. even if the exact percentages are not the same as online, the point is to see the change from one test to another. so even if you would shoot 10% better offline than online or wtvr, youll still see the same change from test a to test b. that percentage of change can be applied to the game as a whole even if your initial test results could vary depending on gamemode
@@alexbranham1847shooting and shit is completely different when playing online 😂
My badges don't feel useless
Also, Steve Kerr? Please
Okay so I have 75 three and 95 middy and shoot over 50% from the arc on my 6'6 slasher
yes everyones saying since you get good badges just from the high 3 those basges also help your middy so its more like you have an 80 something 3
Why you used that old nba live when they have nba live 18 that does have badges lol
because that's the game where ratings have more impact
This video is a proof that you should go and learn statistics. It will really help you analyze those things better. You are making statical mistakes in some of your video.
Specifically i would suggest you to read about design of experiment (DOE), for your testings that you are doing.
Hope you'll read this comment. Peace my friend.
Thanks for the feedback, but it doesn't need to be that deep. If my niche is about accounting, financing, etc. then yeah I probably need to focus on that part. I'm covering a basketball video game. To be honest there were some cases that my analytics were overkill to some viewers because i have some around 9 year old viewers that that haven't finished school yet. Even this simple explanation in this video could be overkill already to the younger side of my audience.
You're making spelling mistakes bud
@@nba2ktutesthank you lol it’s a video game it’s not that deep 💀
@@ushallN0tpass sorry bro English is not my native language 😁
@@nba2ktutes makes sense, keep up the good work anyway
Going high 3 is pointless, you can shoot consistently with a 70 3pt 80 mid range. Guaranteed, if you can’t do that you’re not comp sorry 😂
Right I guess that’s why every guard in stage, any pro am league or proving grounds is running a 70 3ball and 80 middy. You just to comp huh. If only the 2k league was still around you’d be the first draft pick bc you so comp.
well thats certainly one of the takes of all time.
i dunno about that, im pretty sure most "comp" guards in pro am or whatever have high shooting
Hell nah I got no shame, I’m just not built like that, I need an 83 minimum for the jump shots i utilize the most
Lol pg without a 99 3 is a bum pg, this is a trash take
So basically with a high rating 3pt you dont need all those boosts. The boost is valuable only for low 3pt.
2k is a scam😂😂
No bap that gold set shot have my versatile enforcer shooting like a stretch
2K25: 🚮
I have a 75 3 ball guard and a 99, they are the same. Sometimes I shoot better with the 75. I do have a 94 midrange so I get good badges but there should be a difference from 75 to 99
You probably don't take the same kind of shots with those builds either.
@@iTROLLxTHExTROLLZ bingo
@ Probably not as aggressive with shot selection but still, it should feel like a much bigger gap from 75-99
@@ajchicago i mean what do you want out of it? 100% make rate at 99? why would anybody run anything else. the badges help, its proven. so what are you looking for? 75 and 99 are not the same lol
Should have kept it at 5 to 6 badges u can equip on your player from 2k13-14 and also allow u to buy your badges to the highest level thru VC
Good points
HOF Setshot Specialist... 86 three and i brick using rhythm shooting. EVEN with excellent timing.
You just aren’t good at shooting and probably don’t have the right settings on. Use no meter and high risk and keep practicing. My lowest three point build is a 73 with silver and I shoot 65%and I almost only rhythm shoot on it unless it’s a super fast catch and shoot. You’ll get there just keep practicing.
@ that’s the thing, it’s not every game. I’ll score like crazy one week and the next brick everything . And that’s for multiple builds
@@zach4535Nah RNG be screwing with people. I admit i'm not a great shooter but tell me why my build with 66 three ball and hof set shot (because of 93 middy) can hit 3 triples a game but my pure sniper with 98 middy and 93 3 ball all legend shooting bricks every few games. Not a coincidence
@@frankeldios1542Im tired of "skill issue" nonsense. Skill dont even matter at this point. If the game wants you to miss a green, it'll happen
I have the exact same 3pt rating, and once I found a shot I like, I have been hitting consistent greens. I'm using michael porter jr. No shot works for everyone though. Go through the preset jumpers you can use and find one you like
As a software engineer I love this introduction to programming 🫡
Keep up the hard work you’re doing great. This channel is headed to the top.🎉
Thanks for the love