Yeah, it’s the perfect event to be able to do this: you know exactly what you’re going to jump, and you’re so much better than everyone else that you know exactly where you’ll need to stop jumping. You couldn’t really do this in a running event even if you were on Mondo’s level because timing in your head is unreliable (although maybe you could with the pace lights they use now?)
he doesnt even have to control the jump that much. Its based off of the pole height. So dude can jump 6.3 all day. They only cound where he sets the bar@supdawg7811
That rule in the CFL can make for some interesting plays, like I saw Darrin Flutie, Doug Flutie's brother, try to kick a ball through the endzone in the dying seconds of the first half. He saw that he had no chance of running it in, and there was no time left for another play, so kick the ball as a wide receiver and hope for the best.
in the CFL, anything that we NFL'ers would call a touchback... falls under a 1 pt play... part of the much bigger endzone. One of the reasons I liked watching CFL over the NFL when I lived on the border. That and only 3 downs rather than 4... makes the game more interesting.
@@ronpeacock9939 It's also the much bigger field. CFL fields are 110 yards long, 65 yards wide, and the endzones are 20 yards deep. Another play you can see in the CFL that's impossible under NFL rules is the missed field goal return for a touchdown. While the normal play is to concede the point and get the 35 yard line, if it's a situation like this and that 1 point means a loss, or the receiver sees a seam open up and thinks he can make a long return, he can go for it, risking a Rouge for 2 points and kicking the ball away, or terrible field position, for the chance to not give up any points and maybe go all the way for a touchdown (though on a point after attempt, a missed PAT return counts as a 2 point conversion for the defending team, I found that rule out when that play actually happened once. Gave the D a chance to steal a couple of points back from the team that had just scored on them and stifle their momentum a bit, even if it wasn't a full 6 points plus the point after attempt. This rule also worked out hugely for my team (the BC Lions) advantage when I was at the 94 Grey Cup game, when we witnessed the strangest thing in Canadian football, a Lui Passaglia missed field goal attempt in the last minute. Baltimore had to try and run it out though, as a concede would have tied the game up. That proved pivotal as they were stopped inside the 10 and the Lions' D forced a quick 2 and out, with the punt leaving the Lions still within long Passaglia range, and on the longer attempt, with no time on the clock, LOO kicked it through for the Grey Cup win. If it were the present day NFL Baltimore, they'd have just taken the 20 free yards and burned up 3 downs to run out the clock before kicking it too far away for even prime Passaglia to get it through.
@@ronpeacock9939 minor distinction, it's only associated with kicking plays. An interception in the endzone would not score a point in the CFL even though it's a touchback in the NFL
@@Seriously_Unserious You can return field goals for touchdowns in the NFL. And it has happened. It's just rarer. CFL goalposts are on the end zone line, so they can miss laterally and still be returned (helps that the end zones are also larger, so more room to return). That combined with the kicking team getting points if it's declared dead in the end zone makes it worth it to return a miss in the CFL. NFL goalposts are in the back of the end zone, so missing laterally is an immediate touchback. It has to be missed short to have that chance. And if they're missing short, they're probably kicking from very far. With no risk of giving up points if you don't return it, it's usually more worth it to let the play die and take the field position. As a result, most teams only really return it when time is expiring.
@@Falcon4224 In the CFL, most teams would rather concede in the end zone and keep the ball and get better field position then risk getting tackled either in or near the endzone and be in a much worse position. Usually, they'll only attempt a return if either they can't afford to give up that point, or they have a really good kick returner who sees a seem he can get deep through. Though I hadn't thought of the short miss possibility in the NFL, that is a thing. In the game Jomeboy showed, if the kick had been catchable by the receiver in the end zone, he'd most certainly have tried to run it out in the last play of a tie game. He's got a good chance of preserving the tie, and if he's lucky and picks up some good blocks and finds a good hole, he may even go end to end for the win. Nothing to lose there to try, and the game to lose to not try.
It's called a rouge. You can score 1 point if the other team can't return the ball out of the end zone from a kick (punt or field goal attempt). The CFL field is 12 yards wider 10 yards deeper than the NFL. A missed FG in many cases can be returned. There's some strategy as well. You purposely don't run it out of the end zone. Concede the point, but get the ball back from on the 40 yard line (or where it was kicked) or run it out, but you could be pinned near your own goal line. It seems like a dumb way to lose the game, but it's a different mentality. It's not that the Argos failed the FG attempt, it was the Roughriders failing to get the ball out of their side of the field or at least far enough that it could be run out of the end zone. In general, it does make special team plays more exciting.
Honestly, I think the CFL is a better game, but with inferior players compared to the NFL. The rules they play with makes for a much more exciting and dynamic sport. NFL obviously get's their pick of the best athletes, but the CFL players are still pretty good.
Thanks for describing it lol. Was hoping I wouldn't have to type out a paragraph. The thing is that Americans will hear that and think it's stupid and doesn't make sense, but a Canadian who watches cfl will think that Saskatchewan didn't do enough. It's a different game with different rules and with the bigger field you need things like the Rouge. I love the CFL!
Actually a Rouge is when you get tackled in the endzone (NFL calls that a Safety for some weird reason), and is 2 points plus you have to do a kickoff to the other team. If you concede, that's called a Safety and it's just 1 point and you get to keep the ball on your own 35. If you run it out, you play the ball from wherever the returner was tackled as per any other kick return. The main change that makes to strategy is do you concede the single to keep the ball and get guaranteed field position? Or do you risk getting tackled for the Rouge, giving up 2 points instead of one, plus the ball, or getting tackled just outside the end zone and having a very long field. That decision, for example, came up for Baltimore Vs the BC Lions for the Grey Cup. It was in the last minute of the game, Baltimore up by 1, and Hall of Famer Lui Passaglia kicking from around the 35. For Loo that was an automatic field goal, but that one time he missed, and a Baltimore kick returner caught it in the end zone and had to try to run it out to avoid letting the game get tied. he made it out, only just, but got tackled inside the 10, and left his offence to kill the clock from almost tin their own endzone. Any little mistake, a fumble, getting sacked in the end zone, an interception, a 2 and out, anything, would result in a loss. The Leo's D managed to force a 2 and out, with the punter kicking from deep in his own end zone, and failed to get it past mid field, so before time expired, out came Loo for a 2nd chance, on a longer 40-something yard attempt, and this time he made no mistake, right down Broadway for the win. I had a good view of that Grey Cup winning field goal from a corner seat lower bowl, of the end zone Lui kicked the winning field goal into.
That tennis player showed tremendous grace in the face of that ridiculous call. He was right. The call is obviously trash. A really good example of not blowing your top over something you can’t control
Agreed, and part of that grace is baked into the comment he said to the official: that this was gonna look really bad the next day. Credit Draper, too - he immediately said he was willing to replay the point because he was pretty sure it was a blown call. In fact, Draper had the best sense of it: he could certainly hear the ball bounce AFTER he made contact .To anyone else, including the judges, it was plausible that the pop-pop sound was the ball bouncing first followed by the racquet. I would imagine most Jomboy Media fans are baseball fans, as that's the majority of the content on here. It's worth noting that Greg Allensworth has become the Angel Hernandez of the tennis world, at least lately. (Overall, he seems to be one of more respected umpires.) This continued a string of botched calls, often in key situations, in the last couple of months.
@@6thwilbury2331 - if you watch the replay, Draper’s racquet hits the ball, the ball hits the ground and bounces up, and Draper’s racquet hits the ball a second time with that second hit clearing the net. A bad call sums it up.
@@6thwilbury2331 I recall several incidents at major tournaments (including Wimbeldon) where the player has overruled the ump and ceded the point. e.g. player runs for the net to return a drop shot, seemingly hits it over, but then halts play saying their ball went around the pole, not over the net. Or player doesn't swing at a lob which they're sure is going to land out, line judge calls it out, but player then says it hit the line. Apparently you're allowed to do that in tennis if it results in you conceding the point. Draper definitely felt a double contact. But he may have thought his racket hit the ground then the ball (or ball then the ground), instead of hitting the ball twice. The fact that he offered to replay (instead of conceding) suggests he wasn't sure himself. I've been in situations like this where I think I probably lost the point. But then the umpire says I won it and I begin second-guessing myself.
4:38 yeah it's a rouge for a single point. It's kinda weird. Also if it doesn't clear the field of play it's considered a live ball and can be taken out of the end zone in an attempt to run to the end zone for a TD. It's kinda weird but can result in some exciting football.
if it goes through the end zone it is automatically a single point, and Jomboy actually identified this in his commentary. He should probably watch more Canadian football, he'd find lots of stuff for his channel. Given the shorter play clock (20 seconds), bigger field and freedom of pre-snap motion, you will often have multiple lead changes in the last three minutes of the game. Not "better" than US pro football but definitely much different, and really pretty exciting compared to simply draining the clock at the end of a game if you get the ball back with a lead after the 2 minute warning.
I remember seeing the Montreal-Toronto game where they just kept kicking it to each other after a field goal attempt to stop the rouge, which I thought was a logical way of scoring a single point (tackled in your own endzone), but to be able to just kick all the way through seems a bit off to me
Growing up I watched mostly CFL games. IMO the Canadian rules are more exciting than the American Rules, but the NFL has better players. We always used to say "The CFL is a better game with worse players than the NFL". It's just a much more dynamic sport compared to the NFL.
Re: CFL highlight - the end zone is 2 times deeper than in the NFL, so it can still takes a lot of power to kick through it, dependant on field position.
@@jet5757 Sorry but end zones in Canadian footballs are 20 yards deep. Look it up. Make a big difference in possible plays when you're close to the end zone and loger possible kick return.
CFL end zones are 20 yards deep while NFL end zones are only 10 yards deep. The entire CFL field is also bigger than an NFL/American rules football field. CFL Fields are 110 yards long with a 55 yard mid field line and are 65 yards wide, the NFL is 100 yard long and 53 & 1/3rd yards wide.
That CFL rule reminds me of how in Aussie Rules Football you get a point for missing the main post. It's 6 points otherwise but if you still get a point for putting the ball through the little posts next to the big posts.
I think Duplantis gets a “bonus” each time he breaks a record. So why go all the way in one shot? Get a bonus each increment. (Thought I read that somewhere)
You get a cash bonus everytime you break a world record so Mondo beats it by as little as possible each time to maximize the bonuses. Work smarter, not harder.
Plenty of examples in the CFL where teams would try long field goals, hoping that they could get a single point even if they missed, but the opposing team would have their punter in the endzone and punt it back out. Here's an example in OT: ruclips.net/video/CXxiI4PSORo/видео.htmlsi=RG_9PMUyyO6i6Kkp
There's also plays where the FG receiver would try to run it out and return it for a TD. Some of them even get it, especially some of the legends like Gizmo Williams or Pinball Clemmons.
I’m pretty sure he gets a 100 grand bonus from Sweden every time he breaks the record, if he only did it once he’d only get paid once. Bro is playing chess and we think we’re watching checkers
The CFL Rule is called a Rouge, Think of it more like a safety, if you punt it into the endzone, and the "receiving" team can't get it out of the end zone. If you intercept it in the end zone, it is not a rouge, only off a kick. There have been plays where it is kicked in, and then kicked back out, and then back in. Great rule.
I like the Canadian football rouge rule for the most part - but I would like if they would NOT award a point for the ball sailing right through the endzone without touching the ground. I would think the ball would need to touch the ground (or be fielded) in the end zone to get the 1 point. More fair for the return team.
The CFL has some cool rules, I like the differences and somewhat like the CFL games better. I started watching as a kid when we first got cable tv in 1980.
Watching a few footsoccer games in England and baseball games in Japan are numbers one and two on my bucket list. (A cricket match and Aussie football in Oz are tied for the number three slot.) Another great one, Jimmy and Co.
They do have replay in tennis, in the US open, a double bounce no call was challenged, and somehow they gave the umpire the wrong replay and the challenge was unsuccessful
I DO like the CFL rule for punting, the Rouge (or single) is in play there as well, so if they punt it, it goes into the endzone, and they either go down on one knee or get tackled without getting out of the endzone, it's 1 point as well. So you're penalized for not making an attempt to get the ball out, but you then get to start on the 40 yard line. I like that part of the rule. I think it's very silly when it's something like this, a tie game and a missed field goal wins the game.
Yeah I guess I would prefer that to get the point the ball would have to hit the ground or a player in the end zone, forcing you to give the receiving team a fighting chance to prevent the point if they don't want to concede it.
Not "can't-o" it's more like "Kon-toe". It's the region of Japan that has Tokyo in it. A little bit more background on this game. This wasn't just "Kyoto", it's "Kyoto International High School". This high school has a student body of...138 students. In a city with a population of over 1.5 million people. Winning the national high school tourney. When it was founded, it was founded primarily as a school for Koreans in that part of Kyoto, because that part of Kyoto was known for having a lot of Koreans in it. It only became an approved high school 20 years ago, and its school anthem is still in Korean, which is why this team's title run was making headlines in Korea.
I'm now picturing the scene in Hoosiers when Shooter Flatch (Dennis Hopper) is ranting to the nurses, "NO SCHOOL THIS SMALL HAS EVER WON THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP BEFORE!" It's still something I do in any David-Goliath matchup in sports.
As a Rider fan i can tell you that losing the game by 1 point on a missed field goal is going to pretty much sum this season up if we keep going this direction.
Yep, I knew about the rouge! I love the CFL rule, it adds an element of strategy to the decision to run a ball out of the endzone on a kick. However it's generally not something you try to do, for the same reason that field goals aren't generally something you try to do instead of scoring a touchdown: because *having the ball* means you have an opportunity for more points, and after a rouge the opponent gets the ball at the 20 yard line same as an NFL touchback. It's not just missed field goals either, it's also any situation a touchback would be awarded.
If.....the kick misses but isn't long enough to clear the 20 yard deep end zone.......the receiving team can catch or retrieve the ball and KICK IT BACK out of the end zone......at which point the kicking team can retrieve or catch the ball and kick it back into the end zone......and on and on. This occurs every few years when the game is tied at the end of the game. The onside punt is also excellent. The CFL rules are outstanding.
CFL Rouge. I'd never want rid of it, it really keeps the kicking game interesting (same with the halo rule, so every kick/punt/missed-fg is always played)... but I do think a rule needs to be added where "out the back" rouge requires it to be playable (bounce in bounds), but will still force playable kicks to be ran out of the endzone for defense to not submit the point. Worst thing about NFL is the kicking game, always touch backs and fair catches.
Hey Jimmy - lots of folks have talked about the rouge already but here’s the kicker- if a FG attempt hits the upright and stays out (doink!) the ball is dead and it’s zero points. So if you’re going to miss a FG, miss it big! Also, Felix is also Canadian…. And his last name is pronounced oh-ZHAY ah-lee-ah-SEEM.
Hey jomboy it's called a single or rogue. Thing is receiving team could have received that field goal and returned it to not let the one point happen by them not touching it and going to The end zone it was a point. It's kind of bad D the other team
@@HandGrenadeDivisionit's a game of field position the D needed to have a better punt and stop the return. Slightly different that a game of possession like the NFL.
CFL Rouge rule is great, you have to take in that there is a LOT more FGs in CFL rules mainly because of 3 downs. SO kicking it out the end zone (20 yards deeper for 1 pt) makes sense. It does kill any tension at the end of tie game though. So they are considering no Rouge's at the 3 minute mark, which would solve it.
I still think you could keep it if the ball had to strike the ground or a player in the end zone (maybe even just a player, like with kickoffs). Airmailing it out of the endzone for the win doesn't feel sporting
Hey @Jomboy, someone once explained to me that the NFL is a game of ball possession, whereas the CFL (Canadian Football League) is a game of field position. This makes sense when you think that the Canadian game has a longer and wider field, and only three downs instead of four. Also, in the CFL the goalposts are at the back of the end zone, not the goal line, and the end zones are 20 yards deep instead of 10. I know a lot has been made about a team winning the game on a "missed field goal", but the single-point "rouge" is meant to reward a team for their field position, and for not allowing the other team to return the ball out of their end zone.
I like the CFL Rouge. In this instance, yeah kind of a lame way for the game to end. But overall this and the other rugby-esque kicking options are great. The same Rouge rule can also be one of the more exciting ways to end a game too. If it doesn't clear the endzone it becomes a returnable kick. The returner now needs to fight his way free of the endzone to avoid giving up what may be a game winning point. This can create some fantastically chaotic plays haha I for one hope they don't go changing rules because on rare occasion it can look silly to people who don't understand. It's not like the NFL doesn't have some real dud endings at times too
CFL.... I like a cpl rules like the clock stops in the last 2 minutes instead of killing time with time outs. And... bigger field. (Not really a rule) Other than that....yeah
CFL fan here, there's nuances to that rule that makes it make more sense when you know them. Basically any kick into the end zone, if it's in play, forces the receiving team to have to make a decision, do they try to run it out and risk getting tackled in the endzone for a "Rouge" where they have to give up 2 points and a kickoff back to the other team (also risk geting tackled just outside the end zone for terrible field position), or do they take the Safety, by conceding in the endzone and move the ball to the 35 yard line, but they have to give up a point in exchange for those 35 yards, they're not free. From my understanding of American rules, if any kick enters the end zone, it's an automatic 20 free yards for the receiving team, rather then a strategic decision on the fly. That's why you saw a kick returner in the end zone for that field goal attempt. If it had not only missed, but been short of the back line of the end zone, that kick returner could have caught or picked it up and attempted to run it out of the end zone to preserve the tie and decide it in overtime. As long as he can make it past the goal line, they're safe and can try again in OT. There's also a shot he can break through everyone for a touchdown return, a play you'll never ever see in American rules.
That CFL ending is so Canadian. The pole vaulter might have a deal with his sponsor that gives him an incentive to break the WR, so he increments in the smallest amount. The Russian pole vaulter had such a deal 'way back, he broke the record a smidgen each meet.
The single is a great rule. It's exciting when a player has to return it out of the end zone to avoid the point. I would concede that it would be a better rule if the rouge doesn't count when kicked past the end zone.
Yeah if the ball misses its also live and theres 20 yard endzones so you can run it back for a touchdown. You should cover goal line plays in the cfl they are crazy because of the motion and big endzones We also like kicking a lot more because our fields are usually in rough conditions by the time playoffs come around so it results in a lot of fucked up plays in the snow
The rule isn't that if the ball goes through the endzone you get a point. It is that missed kicks must be returned out of the end zone or the kicking team gets a point. A kick which goes past the end zone cannot be returned so it's a point. The end zones are 20 yards deep in the CFL so it's harder to do than it first might seem. But it can happen and does. The uprights are at the front of the end zone, so if you can kick it through the end zone probably you are close enough you should be able to get it between the posts too! I like the rule in terms of returns. I like that missed kicks are live and that the team must return it out of the endzone. Sometimes the team feels they won't get far out of the zone and doesn't want to risk starting from the 1 or 2 and so just gives up a point strategically to get the ball out at the 35 (30?). Live missed FGs instead of a turnover at the line of scrimmage means you see a lot fewer punts. Teams will just try a FG if they are close enough and if it misses then it's basically a punt. This is great. Unfortunately none of this works without the goal posts at the front of the end zone (on the goal line). And let's just be real, that is a ridiculous place for goal posts. So we'll never see it in gridiron football anywhere else.
That is called a Rouge. It's basically if it's goes out of bounds on a missed FG or if the Recieving team fails to get a Kick or a missed FG out of the end zone you score a point Which is why they have a guy in the end zone (Which is possible for it to be returned for a TD). However the catch is the Receiving team gets the ball on the 40 yard line. So It's entirely situational on if they go for it rouge or not. Rouges are not awarded if the Ball downed in the endzone after an interception, the ball is fumbled outside of the endzone, the FG attempt hits the goal posts or the Kickoff goes into the endzone and out of bounds without being touched.
4:33 you should do a break down of the Montreal Alouettes vs Toronto Argonauts kick out play from 2010. Any ball kicked into the end zone is a rouge or single worth 1 point and must be returned or kicked out to avoid conceding one point except on kickoffs not fielded by the receiving team. Because of this when there is a field goal attempt that’s long enough that it will likely be too deep to return out of the end zone but there’s good chance it won’t be kicked straight out in a tie game teams will have a kick out team that will attempt to punt the ball back out of the end zone (the CFL also allow for the ball to be kicked from anywhere on the field at any time by any player on either team).
My dad was a CFL coach and I have nothing but love for the Canadian game… however- getting a point for failing has never sat well with me (or him) - if you pay attention to who is in the end zone when this situation happens you’ll see the punter - who is allowed to punt the ball out of the end zone to prevent giving up the point…. I can become a cartoon kicking back and forth. RIP Coach Ves❤
The rouge (single) is an interesting aspect of CFL football. To say you "get a point for a missed FG" doesn't fully explain the rule. Any time a ball is kicked into the endzone (except on a PAT), the defending team must bring the ball back out of the endzone or else they surrender a point. Thus, if the ball is kicked far enough on a punt or FG that it is impossible to return, the kicking team automatically gets the one point (unless there was a successful three-point FG, of course). This also means the kicking team has to be prepared to defend a run back and the defending team must be ready to bring the ball out on every kick. Sometimes the receiving team (such as on a punt) will surrender the point to avoid poor field position. It might be anti-climactic to see a game end on a "missed FG" but there are many scenarios where the rouge makes the game more exciting and adds to the strategy.
If you don't want to lose by a rouge then make sure you defence stops the other team before the place kicker can clear the endzone. Every Canadian knows this! :)
Heard it about the Benjamin's, not sure if it is him, or a polevaulter from the past and he has the same type of deal. Everytime he breaks the world record, he get a money bonus. So him breaking the record by going as high as he can, he will get the bonus once, but if slowly breaks the record by 1 cm each time, he gets the bonus times each 1 cm improvement.
A little late to the video, but the one point field goal isn't an actual rule but more or less the consequence of a different rule. In the CFL any kick or punt is live. (Excluding made field goals). If the receiving team catches the ball in the endzone, and are downed in the endzone, it is not considered a touchback but rather a "rouge". This gives the kicking team one point. This means that a missed field goal is live and therefor when the ball travels out of the endzone, it has the same effect as a touchback. However, considering the rule, the kicking team is then awarded a singular point, because the ball was downed in the endzone.
One point for putting it through the end zone, or one point if the receiver takes a knee or tackled in the end zone. That one point also includes a ball that goes out the side of the end zone. Another rule that might make American's crazy is that had the play clock fell to zero, the play still takes place. They could have snapped that ball on zero. Back to the end zone rule - often you will see the defending team, late in game, stick a punter in the end zone for that field goal attempt. If they miss, you might see the punter blast the ball back out of the end zone. AND the original kicking team might then receive, and still try to punt it through the end zone. It's wild. FYI - unlike NFL, the ball is live on every kick. And anyone that's lined up behind the kicker is eligible to receive the ball. So this useless "touch back" in NFL when they kick off and let the ball land in end zone and play is dead? That doesn't exist in CFL. You leave the ball - everyone on kick team can receive that ball. A punt? You can line a back (or two) behind the punter, and they become legally able to obtain the ball. Same as the kicker - he can always run down and grab a ball that's laying free.
Hey Jimmy have a look at the AFL mark by Isaac Heeney. Incredible grab but he would have then fallen on his neck if the opposition player didn't catch him
Being from Montreal, the 1 point rule on a missed kick that goes through the endzone is ridiculous... On long missed field goal attempts, they usually put a kicker in the end zone who needs to kick the ball back out to prevent the point, and it just makes it even weirder to watch... There's also a rule where a receiver can catch a pass behind the line of scrimmage, kick it in front of him 1 yard, catch it, and he gets the first down 😅
7:23, jomboy, i believe the reason Mondo keeps only breaking his pole vault record by barely is cus if he breaks a world record in a professional tournament, he gets $100k. So yes he can break it by a lot, or he can just keep winning more money. I think its pretty smart
That shot he lined up basically straight on with his knee and caught it in the air for basically sinker spin, with some right fade as he came across it. Truly nasty. And off the full volley is a super hard shot to time.
Re: CFL Rouge Rule, ultimately it rewards field position. & with 3 downs a wider field, a longer field, unlimited pre-snap movement, a bigger ball, one more dude per team & a short play clock… CFL rules with the NFL talent pool /marketing budgets would be the best version of the sport.
If I’m not mistaken, the defending team can also get a point on a missed field goal if they catch the ball in the end zone and return it outside of the end zone.
In the CFL if you miss a field goal and the opposing team picks up the ball they can run it back for a touchdown against special teams defenders who aren't used to tackling
And almost certainly not in the best position for it, since they were in position to block for a field goal, not chase down either a cornerback, or possibly a wide receiver or running back if they were REALLY banking on a miss. If you give those guys a head of steam, and you are out of position, that's a tough tackle.
It looked like he was going for the FG but he should have made a better effort to miss, maybe kick toward the back corner of the end zone. He risked hitting the upright (which would result in a dead ball, play over, and the game goes OT).
One thing I don't mind about the rouge is that it's harder to make than we Americans might think because the uprights are at the front of the end zone which itself is 20 yards long, so you still gotta boot it.
@@adamleblanc5294 The difference in the ball size was true back when Warren Moon was in the league, but nowadays, the CFL ball and NFL ball are the same size: 28.0-28.5 inches around the long axis, 21.0-21.5 inches around the middle, with the same weight (14-15 ounces). The inflation regulations, Tom Brady notwithstanding, are the same. As for the drag, that would largely come down to the grain and the surface material. I can't speak for that because the CFL rules don't seem to have anything codified about the texture. That said, the CFL ball still looks a little fatter than the NFL ball to me. The short circumference might be the same, but that doesn't speak for other circumferences, such as those around the end of the laces. I've been told that the stripes give off that illusion, and they might be right, but it also feels fatter. I know I can grip the NFL ball much better than the CFL ball.
@@6thwilbury2331 Weird. I have two footballs that I bought a couple years ago. One NFL and one CFL ball. The CFL ball definitely seems bigger and feels heavier when I throw it around. Plus it seems like it has less "bounce" than an NFL ball. Maybe it's just an illusion though.
Just when you thought three downs was the most confusing thing about Canadian football, this happens. I've seen a rouge happen when it goes in the end zone from a kick or a punt, but though I've seen plenty of CFL, I don't think I've ever seen this happen.
In this scenario it seems to me to be safer to intentionally miss wide by a large margin to avoid the possibility of doinking the goal post and remaining tied. Just kick it over the end zone well clear of the goal posts.
Kickers in the CFL don't always go for the rogue (one point), because it's pretty hard to pull off. The kicker in this clip had a chance at it since the actual Field goal kick wasn't all that far.
The single point in the CFL is a commonly known rule, so much so that so that Saskatchewan once elected to try and kick it out the back of the end zone instead of aiming for the uprights (much harder to do, CFL end zones are larger than NFL end zones and you have to kick it in the air, all the way out the back) he didn’t have enough leg and it’s one of the many things you can make fun of Roughriders fans for
If you can have an open mind to some non-traditional rules that differ to the NFL, then the CFL is fantastic. In all honesty, there’s a huge argument to make to say that the CFL is better than the NFL.
Better than the NFL how? Honestly curious. I think we can objectively say the NFL has much more talent and much better presentation. What does the CFL do better? (apart from missed field goals giving you an extra point, which is borderline ridiculous).
@@MovieGuy808 I dunno. I find CFL better in terms of pace of play. NFL is like watching paint dry sometimes, even if the talent is a few levels above CFL. Better sizzle to steak ratio in the CFL.
@@MovieGuy808CFL is a slightly larger field, 3 down instead of 4 makes every play seem slightly more important, you get more players in motion pre-snap to increase the offence’s chance to progress the ball. Better talent is fair, it’s also a different enough game that not necessarily all the skills are interchangeable. The joke is that the CFL is where NFLers who can’t handle the bigs anymore play in the CFL as if it was a retirement league, which it just isn’t. Many NFL players couldn’t hack it in the CFL, the few that tried also failed. Absolutely the NFL has better representation, but that’s also because it’s been around for a lot longer and is based in a country with almost 10x the population of the CFL’s based country. The Super Bowl is seen as this spectacle to the point where it’s almost like a holiday, here in Canada football is not on the top of many people’s lists as the most entertaining sport and therefore there’s a lot less interest by association.
@@MovieGuy808so CFL field is 12 yards wider, 10 yards longer, and the end zones are 20 yards instead of 10 making it possible to return missed field goals for touchdowns etc. much more passing plays, and runs are often longer than NFL runs. also 3 downs instead of 4. give it a try to watch. the game is honestly a lot more fun to watch as someone who watches both. (Still love the NFL though)
@@StarForgedTCGalso because there are only 3 downs, by necessity quarterbacks are about 10% more accurate in the CFL compared to the NFL. This is also achieved by allowing as many players to be in motion pre snap which makes the plays pre snap much more exciting.
You got the Japanese names close to right, the one tiny complaint is that the Japanese "a" sound is closer to the A in Khan (as in star trek the wrath of khan) or the o in monster.
Auger can be pronounced in two ways... the American english way is "aw-ger"(hard 'g'), like the huge drill. a decent amount of folks in the New England area that have french lineage will pronounce it the same way. and the french way is hard for me to explain... the "au" is said like "oh", and then the 'g' is soft, like the word "massage". or how the french say "je" in "je suis". and the "er" is said like an 'a'... so if i use "/j/" to represent that soft g sound, it's "oh/j/ay".
The CFL rouge comes from the earliest days of soccer rules making in England, when they wanted a way to deal with ties, so they had several different methods of counting near-goals, only to count if the real goals were tied. There is documented evidence of players involved in the committees fighting over the various codes of soccer rules in the middle of the 19th century in England, and the Aussie Rules behind is believed to have emerged as a result, possibly suggested by players who emigrated there after playing soccer in England as the rules were being debated over and things like the rouge were being tried. Later on, when rugby further split into separate codes for the American and Canadian gridiron games, the memory of the rouge was still recent enough for it to be part of the Canadian rules from the beginning. Both teams certainly knew about the possibility and Saskatchewan probably did everything they could to prevent Toronto from getting down the field into rouge territory, which I guess is 25 yards or so further out than field goal range. This Toronto team a few years back scored a last minute TD against heavy favorite and current champs Winnipeg to get within one point. There is no rouge on converts, but you can go for two in the CFL, and it seemed like the best option, since if you tie the game with a convert, Winnipeg, by far the better team, would have 30 seconds to find a way to get a rouge, or if not, they would likely prevail in the overtime, which is like the US college version. Toronto’s coach did not see this and chose to tie the game with a kick. The kick missed.
The pole vaulter gets a bonus from his country every time he breaks the record at a sanctioned event, so he's just milking them for their money.
Yeah, it’s the perfect event to be able to do this: you know exactly what you’re going to jump, and you’re so much better than everyone else that you know exactly where you’ll need to stop jumping. You couldn’t really do this in a running event even if you were on Mondo’s level because timing in your head is unreliable (although maybe you could with the pace lights they use now?)
was gonna say the same thing cause it seemed like jimmy didnt know the reason for it
Sergei Bubka sis this first because he got a bonus every time he broke the WR
he doesnt even have to control the jump that much. Its based off of the pole height. So dude can jump 6.3 all day. They only cound where he sets the bar@supdawg7811
Also, life needs more celebrations not fewer!
That rule in the CFL can make for some interesting plays, like I saw Darrin Flutie, Doug Flutie's brother, try to kick a ball through the endzone in the dying seconds of the first half. He saw that he had no chance of running it in, and there was no time left for another play, so kick the ball as a wide receiver and hope for the best.
in the CFL, anything that we NFL'ers would call a touchback... falls under a 1 pt play... part of the much bigger endzone. One of the reasons I liked watching CFL over the NFL when I lived on the border. That and only 3 downs rather than 4... makes the game more interesting.
@@ronpeacock9939 It's also the much bigger field. CFL fields are 110 yards long, 65 yards wide, and the endzones are 20 yards deep.
Another play you can see in the CFL that's impossible under NFL rules is the missed field goal return for a touchdown. While the normal play is to concede the point and get the 35 yard line, if it's a situation like this and that 1 point means a loss, or the receiver sees a seam open up and thinks he can make a long return, he can go for it, risking a Rouge for 2 points and kicking the ball away, or terrible field position, for the chance to not give up any points and maybe go all the way for a touchdown (though on a point after attempt, a missed PAT return counts as a 2 point conversion for the defending team, I found that rule out when that play actually happened once. Gave the D a chance to steal a couple of points back from the team that had just scored on them and stifle their momentum a bit, even if it wasn't a full 6 points plus the point after attempt.
This rule also worked out hugely for my team (the BC Lions) advantage when I was at the 94 Grey Cup game, when we witnessed the strangest thing in Canadian football, a Lui Passaglia missed field goal attempt in the last minute. Baltimore had to try and run it out though, as a concede would have tied the game up. That proved pivotal as they were stopped inside the 10 and the Lions' D forced a quick 2 and out, with the punt leaving the Lions still within long Passaglia range, and on the longer attempt, with no time on the clock, LOO kicked it through for the Grey Cup win. If it were the present day NFL Baltimore, they'd have just taken the 20 free yards and burned up 3 downs to run out the clock before kicking it too far away for even prime Passaglia to get it through.
@@ronpeacock9939 minor distinction, it's only associated with kicking plays. An interception in the endzone would not score a point in the CFL even though it's a touchback in the NFL
@@Seriously_Unserious You can return field goals for touchdowns in the NFL. And it has happened. It's just rarer. CFL goalposts are on the end zone line, so they can miss laterally and still be returned (helps that the end zones are also larger, so more room to return). That combined with the kicking team getting points if it's declared dead in the end zone makes it worth it to return a miss in the CFL.
NFL goalposts are in the back of the end zone, so missing laterally is an immediate touchback. It has to be missed short to have that chance. And if they're missing short, they're probably kicking from very far. With no risk of giving up points if you don't return it, it's usually more worth it to let the play die and take the field position. As a result, most teams only really return it when time is expiring.
@@Falcon4224 In the CFL, most teams would rather concede in the end zone and keep the ball and get better field position then risk getting tackled either in or near the endzone and be in a much worse position. Usually, they'll only attempt a return if either they can't afford to give up that point, or they have a really good kick returner who sees a seem he can get deep through.
Though I hadn't thought of the short miss possibility in the NFL, that is a thing.
In the game Jomeboy showed, if the kick had been catchable by the receiver in the end zone, he'd most certainly have tried to run it out in the last play of a tie game. He's got a good chance of preserving the tie, and if he's lucky and picks up some good blocks and finds a good hole, he may even go end to end for the win. Nothing to lose there to try, and the game to lose to not try.
By rule, Duplantis gets $50k every time he breaks the record. That's why he breaks it 1cm at a time.
It's called a rouge. You can score 1 point if the other team can't return the ball out of the end zone from a kick (punt or field goal attempt). The CFL field is 12 yards wider 10 yards deeper than the NFL. A missed FG in many cases can be returned. There's some strategy as well. You purposely don't run it out of the end zone. Concede the point, but get the ball back from on the 40 yard line (or where it was kicked) or run it out, but you could be pinned near your own goal line.
It seems like a dumb way to lose the game, but it's a different mentality. It's not that the Argos failed the FG attempt, it was the Roughriders failing to get the ball out of their side of the field or at least far enough that it could be run out of the end zone. In general, it does make special team plays more exciting.
Honestly, I think the CFL is a better game, but with inferior players compared to the NFL. The rules they play with makes for a much more exciting and dynamic sport. NFL obviously get's their pick of the best athletes, but the CFL players are still pretty good.
Plus, the field goal uprights are at the front of the endzone in the CFL, instead of at the back like in the NFL.
Thanks for describing it lol. Was hoping I wouldn't have to type out a paragraph. The thing is that Americans will hear that and think it's stupid and doesn't make sense, but a Canadian who watches cfl will think that Saskatchewan didn't do enough. It's a different game with different rules and with the bigger field you need things like the Rouge. I love the CFL!
This. Agree wholeheartedly. Signed: A U.S. American with Argonauts season tickets.
Actually a Rouge is when you get tackled in the endzone (NFL calls that a Safety for some weird reason), and is 2 points plus you have to do a kickoff to the other team. If you concede, that's called a Safety and it's just 1 point and you get to keep the ball on your own 35. If you run it out, you play the ball from wherever the returner was tackled as per any other kick return. The main change that makes to strategy is do you concede the single to keep the ball and get guaranteed field position? Or do you risk getting tackled for the Rouge, giving up 2 points instead of one, plus the ball, or getting tackled just outside the end zone and having a very long field.
That decision, for example, came up for Baltimore Vs the BC Lions for the Grey Cup. It was in the last minute of the game, Baltimore up by 1, and Hall of Famer Lui Passaglia kicking from around the 35. For Loo that was an automatic field goal, but that one time he missed, and a Baltimore kick returner caught it in the end zone and had to try to run it out to avoid letting the game get tied. he made it out, only just, but got tackled inside the 10, and left his offence to kill the clock from almost tin their own endzone. Any little mistake, a fumble, getting sacked in the end zone, an interception, a 2 and out, anything, would result in a loss. The Leo's D managed to force a 2 and out, with the punter kicking from deep in his own end zone, and failed to get it past mid field, so before time expired, out came Loo for a 2nd chance, on a longer 40-something yard attempt, and this time he made no mistake, right down Broadway for the win. I had a good view of that Grey Cup winning field goal from a corner seat lower bowl, of the end zone Lui kicked the winning field goal into.
That tennis player showed tremendous grace in the face of that ridiculous call. He was right. The call is obviously trash. A really good example of not blowing your top over something you can’t control
Between them and Japanese baseball, more respect shown than I've seen in sports for a while.
Agreed, and part of that grace is baked into the comment he said to the official: that this was gonna look really bad the next day. Credit Draper, too - he immediately said he was willing to replay the point because he was pretty sure it was a blown call. In fact, Draper had the best sense of it: he could certainly hear the ball bounce AFTER he made contact .To anyone else, including the judges, it was plausible that the pop-pop sound was the ball bouncing first followed by the racquet.
I would imagine most Jomboy Media fans are baseball fans, as that's the majority of the content on here. It's worth noting that Greg Allensworth has become the Angel Hernandez of the tennis world, at least lately. (Overall, he seems to be one of more respected umpires.) This continued a string of botched calls, often in key situations, in the last couple of months.
It's also a lot easier when you have slow motion replay. It was a bad call, but it happens.
@@6thwilbury2331 - if you watch the replay, Draper’s racquet hits the ball, the ball hits the ground and bounces up, and Draper’s racquet hits the ball a second time with that second hit clearing the net.
A bad call sums it up.
@@6thwilbury2331 I recall several incidents at major tournaments (including Wimbeldon) where the player has overruled the ump and ceded the point. e.g. player runs for the net to return a drop shot, seemingly hits it over, but then halts play saying their ball went around the pole, not over the net. Or player doesn't swing at a lob which they're sure is going to land out, line judge calls it out, but player then says it hit the line. Apparently you're allowed to do that in tennis if it results in you conceding the point.
Draper definitely felt a double contact. But he may have thought his racket hit the ground then the ball (or ball then the ground), instead of hitting the ball twice. The fact that he offered to replay (instead of conceding) suggests he wasn't sure himself. I've been in situations like this where I think I probably lost the point. But then the umpire says I won it and I begin second-guessing myself.
4:38 yeah it's a rouge for a single point. It's kinda weird. Also if it doesn't clear the field of play it's considered a live ball and can be taken out of the end zone in an attempt to run to the end zone for a TD. It's kinda weird but can result in some exciting football.
if it goes through the end zone it is automatically a single point, and Jomboy actually identified this in his commentary. He should probably watch more Canadian football, he'd find lots of stuff for his channel. Given the shorter play clock (20 seconds), bigger field and freedom of pre-snap motion, you will often have multiple lead changes in the last three minutes of the game. Not "better" than US pro football but definitely much different, and really pretty exciting compared to simply draining the clock at the end of a game if you get the ball back with a lead after the 2 minute warning.
@@HandGrenadeDivision not to mention 3 downs in the CFL compared to 4 in the NFL
I remember seeing the Montreal-Toronto game where they just kept kicking it to each other after a field goal attempt to stop the rouge, which I thought was a logical way of scoring a single point (tackled in your own endzone), but to be able to just kick all the way through seems a bit off to me
Growing up I watched mostly CFL games. IMO the Canadian rules are more exciting than the American Rules, but the NFL has better players. We always used to say "The CFL is a better game with worse players than the NFL". It's just a much more dynamic sport compared to the NFL.
Now imagine Super Bowl XXV with the CFL rules.
Re: CFL highlight - the end zone is 2 times deeper than in the NFL, so it can still takes a lot of power to kick through it, dependant on field position.
@@jet5757 No it was true, the CFL does have the goal posts on the goal line but the CFL end zone is much deeper than the NFL endzone
@@Tombobreaker didnt know that. how much deeper is it??
@@jet5757 Sorry but end zones in Canadian footballs are 20 yards deep. Look it up. Make a big difference in possible plays when you're close to the end zone and loger possible kick return.
CFL end zones are 20 yards deep while NFL end zones are only 10 yards deep. The entire CFL field is also bigger than an NFL/American rules football field. CFL Fields are 110 yards long with a 55 yard mid field line and are 65 yards wide, the NFL is 100 yard long and 53 & 1/3rd yards wide.
@@Tombobreaker yes i know the field is bigger i just didnt know the end zones were also that much longer
That CFL rule reminds me of how in Aussie Rules Football you get a point for missing the main post. It's 6 points otherwise but if you still get a point for putting the ball through the little posts next to the big posts.
Yeah, they call that one a "behind" which I thought was a funny name. Love that sport!
Yeah a goal vs a behind
Aussies and Canadians having rules for participating, is funny.
I think Duplantis gets a “bonus” each time he breaks a record. So why go all the way in one shot? Get a bonus each increment. (Thought I read that somewhere)
Yep boebka did it too back in the days
He gets paid each time he breaks the record. So he’s a genius 8:39
You get a cash bonus everytime you break a world record so Mondo beats it by as little as possible each time to maximize the bonuses. Work smarter, not harder.
Everyone knows this. Jomboy is being dense? Doesn't want to look it up?
@@Redmenace96 I didn't
@@Redmenace96 I think most people don't know this, unless you closely follow pole vaulting? Which I think most people don't.
he gets $100K every time he breaks the world record
Sergei Bubka did the same thing back in the day as I recall.
Plenty of examples in the CFL where teams would try long field goals, hoping that they could get a single point even if they missed, but the opposing team would have their punter in the endzone and punt it back out. Here's an example in OT: ruclips.net/video/CXxiI4PSORo/видео.htmlsi=RG_9PMUyyO6i6Kkp
There's also plays where the FG receiver would try to run it out and return it for a TD. Some of them even get it, especially some of the legends like Gizmo Williams or Pinball Clemmons.
8:10 nothing wrong with celebrating every inch…especially if you don’t have many to begin with.
I’m pretty sure he gets a 100 grand bonus from Sweden every time he breaks the record, if he only did it once he’d only get paid once. Bro is playing chess and we think we’re watching checkers
World Athletics gives athletes $100K each time they break a world record. He's incentivized to break it as many times as possible.
The CFL Rule is called a Rouge, Think of it more like a safety, if you punt it into the endzone, and the "receiving" team can't get it out of the end zone. If you intercept it in the end zone, it is not a rouge, only off a kick. There have been plays where it is kicked in, and then kicked back out, and then back in. Great rule.
I like the Canadian football rouge rule for the most part - but I would like if they would NOT award a point for the ball sailing right through the endzone without touching the ground. I would think the ball would need to touch the ground (or be fielded) in the end zone to get the 1 point. More fair for the return team.
The CFL has some cool rules, I like the differences and somewhat like the CFL games better. I started watching as a kid when we first got cable tv in 1980.
First of all. Montréal's Alouettes won the last Grey Cup. And yes, it's called a rouge. With deeper (20 yd) end zone it's not necessarily a given.
Watching a few footsoccer games in England and baseball games in Japan are numbers one and two on my bucket list. (A cricket match and Aussie football in Oz are tied for the number three slot.)
Another great one, Jimmy and Co.
They do have replay in tennis, in the US open, a double bounce no call was challenged, and somehow they gave the umpire the wrong replay and the challenge was unsuccessful
I DO like the CFL rule for punting, the Rouge (or single) is in play there as well, so if they punt it, it goes into the endzone, and they either go down on one knee or get tackled without getting out of the endzone, it's 1 point as well. So you're penalized for not making an attempt to get the ball out, but you then get to start on the 40 yard line. I like that part of the rule. I think it's very silly when it's something like this, a tie game and a missed field goal wins the game.
Yeah I guess I would prefer that to get the point the ball would have to hit the ground or a player in the end zone, forcing you to give the receiving team a fighting chance to prevent the point if they don't want to concede it.
Canadian here. I once heard the 1-pt for missing a field goal out of bound being called "the point of shame". I've been calling it that ever since
Not "can't-o" it's more like "Kon-toe". It's the region of Japan that has Tokyo in it.
A little bit more background on this game. This wasn't just "Kyoto", it's "Kyoto International High School". This high school has a student body of...138 students. In a city with a population of over 1.5 million people. Winning the national high school tourney. When it was founded, it was founded primarily as a school for Koreans in that part of Kyoto, because that part of Kyoto was known for having a lot of Koreans in it. It only became an approved high school 20 years ago, and its school anthem is still in Korean, which is why this team's title run was making headlines in Korea.
I'm now picturing the scene in Hoosiers when Shooter Flatch (Dennis Hopper) is ranting to the nurses, "NO SCHOOL THIS SMALL HAS EVER WON THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP BEFORE!" It's still something I do in any David-Goliath matchup in sports.
It would be cool if jomboy pins this comment
Do you over-annunciate your order at a Mexican restaurant? "Quesadilla." Lmao just funny to me, correcting a slight mispronounciation.
@@Guntherbabies The word you're looking for is spelled "enunciate".
@@OhJustSomeRandomGuy thanks, exactly my point, nerds.
As a Rider fan i can tell you that losing the game by 1 point on a missed field goal is going to pretty much sum this season up if we keep going this direction.
Yep, I knew about the rouge! I love the CFL rule, it adds an element of strategy to the decision to run a ball out of the endzone on a kick. However it's generally not something you try to do, for the same reason that field goals aren't generally something you try to do instead of scoring a touchdown: because *having the ball* means you have an opportunity for more points, and after a rouge the opponent gets the ball at the 20 yard line same as an NFL touchback. It's not just missed field goals either, it's also any situation a touchback would be awarded.
After a rouge the ball comes to the 40 (it was the 35 until the 2023 season). Very strategic for the return team.
If.....the kick misses but isn't long enough to clear the 20 yard deep end zone.......the receiving team can catch or retrieve the ball and KICK IT BACK out of the end zone......at which point the kicking team can retrieve or catch the ball and kick it back into the end zone......and on and on.
This occurs every few years when the game is tied at the end of the game.
The onside punt is also excellent.
The CFL rules are outstanding.
that first goal was great❤
Love your commentary even in sports I don’t understand or follow 😂
CFL Rouge. I'd never want rid of it, it really keeps the kicking game interesting (same with the halo rule, so every kick/punt/missed-fg is always played)... but I do think a rule needs to be added where "out the back" rouge requires it to be playable (bounce in bounds), but will still force playable kicks to be ran out of the endzone for defense to not submit the point. Worst thing about NFL is the kicking game, always touch backs and fair catches.
Got to love the rouge.
The intro "music" was everything!
Hey Jimmy - lots of folks have talked about the rouge already but here’s the kicker- if a FG attempt hits the upright and stays out (doink!) the ball is dead and it’s zero points. So if you’re going to miss a FG, miss it big!
Also, Felix is also Canadian…. And his last name is pronounced oh-ZHAY ah-lee-ah-SEEM.
Hey jomboy it's called a single or rogue. Thing is receiving team could have received that field goal and returned it to not let the one point happen by them not touching it and going to The end zone it was a point. It's kind of bad D the other team
It went through the end zone so there was no chance of a return, and Jomboy correctly identified this in the video.
@@HandGrenadeDivisionit's a game of field position the D needed to have a better punt and stop the return. Slightly different that a game of possession like the NFL.
CFL Rouge rule is great, you have to take in that there is a LOT more FGs in CFL rules mainly because of 3 downs. SO kicking it out the end zone (20 yards deeper for 1 pt) makes sense. It does kill any tension at the end of tie game though. So they are considering no Rouge's at the 3 minute mark, which would solve it.
I still think you could keep it if the ball had to strike the ground or a player in the end zone (maybe even just a player, like with kickoffs). Airmailing it out of the endzone for the win doesn't feel sporting
Hey @Jomboy, someone once explained to me that the NFL is a game of ball possession, whereas the CFL (Canadian Football League) is a game of field position.
This makes sense when you think that the Canadian game has a longer and wider field, and only three downs instead of four. Also, in the CFL the goalposts are at the back of the end zone, not the goal line, and the end zones are 20 yards deep instead of 10.
I know a lot has been made about a team winning the game on a "missed field goal", but the single-point "rouge" is meant to reward a team for their field position, and for not allowing the other team to return the ball out of their end zone.
I like the CFL Rouge. In this instance, yeah kind of a lame way for the game to end. But overall this and the other rugby-esque kicking options are great.
The same Rouge rule can also be one of the more exciting ways to end a game too. If it doesn't clear the endzone it becomes a returnable kick. The returner now needs to fight his way free of the endzone to avoid giving up what may be a game winning point. This can create some fantastically chaotic plays haha
I for one hope they don't go changing rules because on rare occasion it can look silly to people who don't understand. It's not like the NFL doesn't have some real dud endings at times too
CFL.... I like a cpl rules like the clock stops in the last 2 minutes instead of killing time with time outs. And... bigger field. (Not really a rule) Other than that....yeah
CFL fan here, there's nuances to that rule that makes it make more sense when you know them. Basically any kick into the end zone, if it's in play, forces the receiving team to have to make a decision, do they try to run it out and risk getting tackled in the endzone for a "Rouge" where they have to give up 2 points and a kickoff back to the other team (also risk geting tackled just outside the end zone for terrible field position), or do they take the Safety, by conceding in the endzone and move the ball to the 35 yard line, but they have to give up a point in exchange for those 35 yards, they're not free. From my understanding of American rules, if any kick enters the end zone, it's an automatic 20 free yards for the receiving team, rather then a strategic decision on the fly. That's why you saw a kick returner in the end zone for that field goal attempt. If it had not only missed, but been short of the back line of the end zone, that kick returner could have caught or picked it up and attempted to run it out of the end zone to preserve the tie and decide it in overtime. As long as he can make it past the goal line, they're safe and can try again in OT. There's also a shot he can break through everyone for a touchdown return, a play you'll never ever see in American rules.
🤣🤣🤣just effing do it !!😂.hey great video as always !!
The Rouge is an old rule from the 50s. Its older than the Super Bowl. And the Grey Cup (the championship trophy) is 111 years old.
"The 50s"? Perhaps you mean the 1850s!
Gotta love the rouge
Greatest show on the internet!!!
Love the rouge in the CFL it’s harder to get than you’d think, makes the 2 pt convert into play more often
That CFL ending is so Canadian.
The pole vaulter might have a deal with his sponsor that gives him an incentive to break the WR, so he increments in the smallest amount.
The Russian pole vaulter had such a deal 'way back, he broke the record a smidgen each meet.
love these so much lol
The 1 point kick also comes into play on punts. If the receiving team does not return the kick out of the end zone, the kicking team gets a point.
That goal is insane!
The single is a great rule. It's exciting when a player has to return it out of the end zone to avoid the point.
I would concede that it would be a better rule if the rouge doesn't count when kicked past the end zone.
5:38 finally a segment I’ve actually seen. Glad it was explained cause I didn’t get it
Yeah if the ball misses its also live and theres 20 yard endzones so you can run it back for a touchdown. You should cover goal line plays in the cfl they are crazy because of the motion and big endzones
We also like kicking a lot more because our fields are usually in rough conditions by the time playoffs come around so it results in a lot of fucked up plays in the snow
The rule isn't that if the ball goes through the endzone you get a point. It is that missed kicks must be returned out of the end zone or the kicking team gets a point. A kick which goes past the end zone cannot be returned so it's a point.
The end zones are 20 yards deep in the CFL so it's harder to do than it first might seem. But it can happen and does. The uprights are at the front of the end zone, so if you can kick it through the end zone probably you are close enough you should be able to get it between the posts too!
I like the rule in terms of returns. I like that missed kicks are live and that the team must return it out of the endzone. Sometimes the team feels they won't get far out of the zone and doesn't want to risk starting from the 1 or 2 and so just gives up a point strategically to get the ball out at the 35 (30?).
Live missed FGs instead of a turnover at the line of scrimmage means you see a lot fewer punts. Teams will just try a FG if they are close enough and if it misses then it's basically a punt. This is great.
Unfortunately none of this works without the goal posts at the front of the end zone (on the goal line). And let's just be real, that is a ridiculous place for goal posts. So we'll never see it in gridiron football anywhere else.
That is called a Rouge. It's basically if it's goes out of bounds on a missed FG or if the Recieving team fails to get a Kick or a missed FG out of the end zone you score a point Which is why they have a guy in the end zone (Which is possible for it to be returned for a TD). However the catch is the Receiving team gets the ball on the 40 yard line. So It's entirely situational on if they go for it rouge or not. Rouges are not awarded if the Ball downed in the endzone after an interception, the ball is fumbled outside of the endzone, the FG attempt hits the goal posts or the Kickoff goes into the endzone and out of bounds without being touched.
4:33 you should do a break down of the Montreal Alouettes vs Toronto Argonauts kick out play from 2010. Any ball kicked into the end zone is a rouge or single worth 1 point and must be returned or kicked out to avoid conceding one point except on kickoffs not fielded by the receiving team. Because of this when there is a field goal attempt that’s long enough that it will likely be too deep to return out of the end zone but there’s good chance it won’t be kicked straight out in a tie game teams will have a kick out team that will attempt to punt the ball back out of the end zone (the CFL also allow for the ball to be kicked from anywhere on the field at any time by any player on either team).
love this series.
My dad was a CFL coach and I have nothing but love for the Canadian game… however- getting a point for failing has never sat well with me (or him) - if you pay attention to who is in the end zone when this situation happens you’ll see the punter - who is allowed to punt the ball out of the end zone to prevent giving up the point…. I can become a cartoon kicking back and forth. RIP Coach Ves❤
The rouge (single) is an interesting aspect of CFL football. To say you "get a point for a missed FG" doesn't fully explain the rule. Any time a ball is kicked into the endzone (except on a PAT), the defending team must bring the ball back out of the endzone or else they surrender a point. Thus, if the ball is kicked far enough on a punt or FG that it is impossible to return, the kicking team automatically gets the one point (unless there was a successful three-point FG, of course). This also means the kicking team has to be prepared to defend a run back and the defending team must be ready to bring the ball out on every kick. Sometimes the receiving team (such as on a punt) will surrender the point to avoid poor field position. It might be anti-climactic to see a game end on a "missed FG" but there are many scenarios where the rouge makes the game more exciting and adds to the strategy.
If you don't want to lose by a rouge then make sure you defence stops the other team before the place kicker can clear the endzone. Every Canadian knows this! :)
What's with those slides into 1st base? Isn't that just slower than running through the base?
I was confused by this also.
Auger-aliassime is pronounced o-jhey-a-lee-a-seem
Heard it about the Benjamin's, not sure if it is him, or a polevaulter from the past and he has the same type of deal. Everytime he breaks the world record, he get a money bonus. So him breaking the record by going as high as he can, he will get the bonus once, but if slowly breaks the record by 1 cm each time, he gets the bonus times each 1 cm improvement.
A little late to the video, but the one point field goal isn't an actual rule but more or less the consequence of a different rule. In the CFL any kick or punt is live. (Excluding made field goals). If the receiving team catches the ball in the endzone, and are downed in the endzone, it is not considered a touchback but rather a "rouge". This gives the kicking team one point. This means that a missed field goal is live and therefor when the ball travels out of the endzone, it has the same effect as a touchback. However, considering the rule, the kicking team is then awarded a singular point, because the ball was downed in the endzone.
One point for putting it through the end zone, or one point if the receiver takes a knee or tackled in the end zone. That one point also includes a ball that goes out the side of the end zone.
Another rule that might make American's crazy is that had the play clock fell to zero, the play still takes place. They could have snapped that ball on zero.
Back to the end zone rule - often you will see the defending team, late in game, stick a punter in the end zone for that field goal attempt. If they miss, you might see the punter blast the ball back out of the end zone. AND the original kicking team might then receive, and still try to punt it through the end zone. It's wild.
FYI - unlike NFL, the ball is live on every kick. And anyone that's lined up behind the kicker is eligible to receive the ball. So this useless "touch back" in NFL when they kick off and let the ball land in end zone and play is dead? That doesn't exist in CFL. You leave the ball - everyone on kick team can receive that ball. A punt? You can line a back (or two) behind the punter, and they become legally able to obtain the ball. Same as the kicker - he can always run down and grab a ball that's laying free.
Hey Jimmy have a look at the AFL mark by Isaac Heeney. Incredible grab but he would have then fallen on his neck if the opposition player didn't catch him
And the final 5-10 minutes of that game. Genuinely one of the most exciting AFL finals ever.
As a Canadian, I think the one point for a long kick is kinda lame 🤷♂️
COVER THE PLL FINAL NEXT WEEKEND PLEASE
The most bizarre things happen in the CFL
Being from Montreal, the 1 point rule on a missed kick that goes through the endzone is ridiculous... On long missed field goal attempts, they usually put a kicker in the end zone who needs to kick the ball back out to prevent the point, and it just makes it even weirder to watch... There's also a rule where a receiver can catch a pass behind the line of scrimmage, kick it in front of him 1 yard, catch it, and he gets the first down 😅
I'm a Roughriders fan, and I was at the game. It was heartbreaking.
2:33 SWORD!!! ⚔
7:23, jomboy, i believe the reason Mondo keeps only breaking his pole vault record by barely is cus if he breaks a world record in a professional tournament, he gets $100k. So yes he can break it by a lot, or he can just keep winning more money. I think its pretty smart
Tennis ball hit the ground and the guy's racket at the same time. Not sure how that's supposed to be ruled..
That shot he lined up basically straight on with his knee and caught it in the air for basically sinker spin, with some right fade as he came across it. Truly nasty. And off the full volley is a super hard shot to time.
Re: CFL Rouge Rule, ultimately it rewards field position. & with 3 downs a wider field, a longer field, unlimited pre-snap movement, a bigger ball, one more dude per team & a short play clock… CFL rules with the NFL talent pool /marketing budgets would be the best version of the sport.
If I’m not mistaken, the defending team can also get a point on a missed field goal if they catch the ball in the end zone and return it outside of the end zone.
Not quite. If they run it out, they deny the other team the single. They don’t score one themselves.
In the CFL if you miss a field goal and the opposing team picks up the ball they can run it back for a touchdown against special teams defenders who aren't used to tackling
And almost certainly not in the best position for it, since they were in position to block for a field goal, not chase down either a cornerback, or possibly a wide receiver or running back if they were REALLY banking on a miss. If you give those guys a head of steam, and you are out of position, that's a tough tackle.
It looked like he was going for the FG but he should have made a better effort to miss, maybe kick toward the back corner of the end zone. He risked hitting the upright (which would result in a dead ball, play over, and the game goes OT).
One thing I don't mind about the rouge is that it's harder to make than we Americans might think because the uprights are at the front of the end zone which itself is 20 yards long, so you still gotta boot it.
Plus the CFL ball is larger, draggier and heavier. So it's harder to kick for distance.
@@adamleblanc5294 The difference in the ball size was true back when Warren Moon was in the league, but nowadays, the CFL ball and NFL ball are the same size: 28.0-28.5 inches around the long axis, 21.0-21.5 inches around the middle, with the same weight (14-15 ounces). The inflation regulations, Tom Brady notwithstanding, are the same. As for the drag, that would largely come down to the grain and the surface material. I can't speak for that because the CFL rules don't seem to have anything codified about the texture.
That said, the CFL ball still looks a little fatter than the NFL ball to me. The short circumference might be the same, but that doesn't speak for other circumferences, such as those around the end of the laces. I've been told that the stripes give off that illusion, and they might be right, but it also feels fatter. I know I can grip the NFL ball much better than the CFL ball.
@@6thwilbury2331 Weird. I have two footballs that I bought a couple years ago. One NFL and one CFL ball. The CFL ball definitely seems bigger and feels heavier when I throw it around. Plus it seems like it has less "bounce" than an NFL ball. Maybe it's just an illusion though.
Just when you thought three downs was the most confusing thing about Canadian football, this happens. I've seen a rouge happen when it goes in the end zone from a kick or a punt, but though I've seen plenty of CFL, I don't think I've ever seen this happen.
In this scenario it seems to me to be safer to intentionally miss wide by a large margin to avoid the possibility of doinking the goal post and remaining tied. Just kick it over the end zone well clear of the goal posts.
Kickers in the CFL don't always go for the rogue (one point), because it's pretty hard to pull off. The kicker in this clip had a chance at it since the actual Field goal kick wasn't all that far.
The single point in the CFL is a commonly known rule, so much so that so that Saskatchewan once elected to try and kick it out the back of the end zone instead of aiming for the uprights (much harder to do, CFL end zones are larger than NFL end zones and you have to kick it in the air, all the way out the back) he didn’t have enough leg and it’s one of the many things you can make fun of Roughriders fans for
If you can have an open mind to some non-traditional rules that differ to the NFL, then the CFL is fantastic. In all honesty, there’s a huge argument to make to say that the CFL is better than the NFL.
Better than the NFL how? Honestly curious. I think we can objectively say the NFL has much more talent and much better presentation. What does the CFL do better? (apart from missed field goals giving you an extra point, which is borderline ridiculous).
@@MovieGuy808 I dunno. I find CFL better in terms of pace of play. NFL is like watching paint dry sometimes, even if the talent is a few levels above CFL. Better sizzle to steak ratio in the CFL.
@@MovieGuy808CFL is a slightly larger field, 3 down instead of 4 makes every play seem slightly more important, you get more players in motion pre-snap to increase the offence’s chance to progress the ball.
Better talent is fair, it’s also a different enough game that not necessarily all the skills are interchangeable. The joke is that the CFL is where NFLers who can’t handle the bigs anymore play in the CFL as if it was a retirement league, which it just isn’t. Many NFL players couldn’t hack it in the CFL, the few that tried also failed.
Absolutely the NFL has better representation, but that’s also because it’s been around for a lot longer and is based in a country with almost 10x the population of the CFL’s based country. The Super Bowl is seen as this spectacle to the point where it’s almost like a holiday, here in Canada football is not on the top of many people’s lists as the most entertaining sport and therefore there’s a lot less interest by association.
@@MovieGuy808so CFL field is 12 yards wider, 10 yards longer, and the end zones are 20 yards instead of 10 making it possible to return missed field goals for touchdowns etc. much more passing plays, and runs are often longer than NFL runs. also 3 downs instead of 4. give it a try to watch. the game is honestly a lot more fun to watch as someone who watches both. (Still love the NFL though)
@@StarForgedTCGalso because there are only 3 downs, by necessity quarterbacks are about 10% more accurate in the CFL compared to the NFL. This is also achieved by allowing as many players to be in motion pre snap which makes the plays pre snap much more exciting.
Huge Ichiro influence in the hitting in Japan
Mondo Duplantis is like Apple. Release a little upgrade at a time so that people "have a reason" to watch the next release 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I like that field goal rule! We need that here.
You got the Japanese names close to right, the one tiny complaint is that the Japanese "a" sound is closer to the A in Khan (as in star trek the wrath of khan) or the o in monster.
Can we acknowledge that insane split by that 1st baseman?!?!
The rouge has been around longer than the NFL has existed by decades
Fan of the week - C
Why is it that this channel always gets the bots? I actually don’t understand
They appear on multiple big channels/pods. I assume they're bought by someone affiliated with the companies in some way, or an affiliate etc.
Lots of the bots are peddling pr0n, so a channel that has lots of men (the main “consumer” of pr0n) is a target for them.
Montreal won the Grey Cup last year!
Auger can be pronounced in two ways... the American english way is "aw-ger"(hard 'g'), like the huge drill. a decent amount of folks in the New England area that have french lineage will pronounce it the same way. and the french way is hard for me to explain... the "au" is said like "oh", and then the 'g' is soft, like the word "massage". or how the french say "je" in "je suis". and the "er" is said like an 'a'... so if i use "/j/" to represent that soft g sound, it's "oh/j/ay".
Mondo also beat Karsten Warholm (400 meter hurdle world record holder) in a 100 meter dash last week
My understanding on the 1-point missed field goal is that they don’t happen terribly often because the end ones are 10 years deeper
How was there no call out for the dude at first base doing the splits to make that catch 😂😂
The CFL rouge comes from the earliest days of soccer rules making in England, when they wanted a way to deal with ties, so they had several different methods of counting near-goals, only to count if the real goals were tied. There is documented evidence of players involved in the committees fighting over the various codes of soccer rules in the middle of the 19th century in England, and the Aussie Rules behind is believed to have emerged as a result, possibly suggested by players who emigrated there after playing soccer in England as the rules were being debated over and things like the rouge were being tried. Later on, when rugby further split into separate codes for the American and Canadian gridiron games, the memory of the rouge was still recent enough for it to be part of the Canadian rules from the beginning. Both teams certainly knew about the possibility and Saskatchewan probably did everything they could to prevent Toronto from getting down the field into rouge territory, which I guess is 25 yards or so further out than field goal range.
This Toronto team a few years back scored a last minute TD against heavy favorite and current champs Winnipeg to get within one point. There is no rouge on converts, but you can go for two in the CFL, and it seemed like the best option, since if you tie the game with a convert, Winnipeg, by far the better team, would have 30 seconds to find a way to get a rouge, or if not, they would likely prevail in the overtime, which is like the US college version. Toronto’s coach did not see this and chose to tie the game with a kick.
The kick missed.
we use cfl rules in high school. you see it happen a lot in high school and sometimes university football
I always plan on watching the CFL
Not often the Rouge is in a highlight package.
I’ve watched the CFL and I think it’s a good rule. Go Argos.
Yeah man, its called a Rouge. Very Canadian rule, any kick including a FG, punt or kickoff that gets a knee or goes through the end zone is worth 1.