Stellaris Maginot Build vs All 10x Crisis

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  • Опубликовано: 8 июн 2023
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    This Stellaris Ultimate Defence Build will allow us to fight three 10x crises without needing to build a single ship! This is the Maginor Line in space!
    Lets dive and find out more!
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    Stellaris Version 3.8.2
    This video was filmed in patch 3.8.2 some things (like the generals trait for extra defence platform capacity) have now changed. However the general thrust still remains the same and as no platforms even took damage the armour bug is irrelevant!
    Oh, and I had to force spawn in the zroni tech, as I didn't roll the zroni precursor and didn't want to restart the game again and again!
    For those asking the defence platforms had two designs, one full hanger design and the other full neutron launcher!
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  • @MGoogle3146
    @MGoogle3146 Год назад +3267

    I've always liked how the devs made the galactic council useless and never focus on the threat... exactly like how it'd be in real life.

    • @illfreide7690
      @illfreide7690 Год назад +531

      Galactic Council: "Ah, yes, 'The Crisises'. The various galaxy ending threats just waiting to happen everywhere. We have dismissed this claim."

    • @comradeblin256
      @comradeblin256 Год назад

      UN in fuckin nutshell=

    • @chickenmadness1732
      @chickenmadness1732 Год назад +141

      Literally how the EU reacted to the war in Ukraine lol. Meanwhile UK and USA were already sending weapons and training the Ukraine's military 5-10 years before the invasion.

    • @pierdolecfabrykasp.zoo.8776
      @pierdolecfabrykasp.zoo.8776 Год назад

      @@chickenmadness1732 So you mean during the non-official war? Bigger and smaller attacks have been going on since late 2013 honestly. And USA sends weapons to any place that can give even the smallest profit, so nothing surprising here

    • @LuizAlexPhoenix
      @LuizAlexPhoenix Год назад

      ​@@chickenmadness1732 Yeah, when you support an armed coup in hopes of sparking a war, you would usually send weapons to your puppets.

  • @ASlickNamedPimpback
    @ASlickNamedPimpback Год назад +2256

    As someone who has 1000 hours in Stellaris, yet relies on starbases to defend my wide empires as my fleets suck, I applaud you sir. You have done the ultimate Switzerland.

    • @Amyante
      @Amyante Год назад +85

      I know your pain.
      Trying to breach into Commodore difficulty here, but the AI always seems to have 3x my fleets. Starbases seem to hold though, so it's just a matter of improving my fleet game i suppose.

    • @JohnSmith-bs9ym
      @JohnSmith-bs9ym Год назад +90

      @@Amyante No, starbases are definitely way more alloy efficient in the early-mid game. Think of it as having Terran tanks in a SC game.

    • @Amyante
      @Amyante Год назад +26

      ​@@JohnSmith-bs9ym Oh i know, and i agree. The problem is that since my fleets are comparatively weak, it feels like i can't do anything but turtle and hope the AI doesn't send more than one fleet at my starbase at a time. And if, for whatever reason, i lose my chokepoint system the enemy basically has free reign since my fleets can't stop them.
      I've got the economy part down so my empires can generally afford it, but numbers mean little when my ships themselves are a wet noodle.

    • @larryblake842
      @larryblake842 Год назад +7

      My fleet power usually dwarfs everyone but the scourge and I still prefer to turtle. Because I know that my citadels, 1m+ power, could tank a couple fleets because of planet rings and the strategy coordination center.

    • @chickenmadness1732
      @chickenmadness1732 Год назад +6

      @@larryblake842 Yeah if you have a chokepoint system full of planets you can basically ignore that side of your empire and send your whole fleet to conquer who ever is on the opposite end.

  • @antoineroca1690
    @antoineroca1690 Год назад +1807

    Even if they're pure energy, Montu still manages to melt the Unbidden.

    • @MontuPlays
      @MontuPlays  Год назад +175

      Did you skip ahead sir 😅

    • @antoineroca1690
      @antoineroca1690 Год назад +103

      @@MontuPlays It's bed time here, I'll watch in full tomorrow.
      Still couldn't resist the joke.

    • @animewarrior3
      @animewarrior3 Год назад +67

      You can't beat the Drej, they're pure energy!
      "Platform go brrrr"

  • @QuestionableObject
    @QuestionableObject Год назад +933

    a defensive system that is neither submissive nor breedable

    • @rrrr2150
      @rrrr2150 Год назад +21

      i didn't expect to see a pop culture reference here omggg 😭😭😭

    • @JohnSmith-bs9ym
      @JohnSmith-bs9ym Год назад +6

      @@rrrr2150 Where is this from?

    • @rrrr2150
      @rrrr2150 Год назад +36

      @@JohnSmith-bs9ym idk where it came from but it was used a lot on twitter around 2021-2022 to describe one’s appearance. It’s used as a compliment

    • @bizmasterTheSlav
      @bizmasterTheSlav Год назад +5

      NOT THE MIMI SENTRY

    • @LuizAlexPhoenix
      @LuizAlexPhoenix Год назад +17

      ​@@rrrr2150 As usual with internet slang, it either originated or became popular through 4chan and other forums, from then it spread to Reddit, Twitter and Tumblr. IIRC, it was also a joke similar to the chad stereotype, 4channers wanted to talk about a "perfect gf".
      Much like with chads, this idealized version drew mockery from many but also a bunch of low self steem people to latch on to it. The same incel crowd looking for a "tradwife" and pick-me e-girls/attentionwhores with daddy issues trying to get said attention from that gullible crowd.

  • @LadyMorrigan
    @LadyMorrigan Год назад +1212

    I love learning more about how to actually use starbases to defend planets and such, keep up the good work Montu.

    • @MontuPlays
      @MontuPlays  Год назад +92

      Hope you enjoyed the video!

    • @art-games6230
      @art-games6230 Год назад +47

      Personally I really want to know what defense platforms used, what are the best designs when it comes to defense?

    • @user-pe8yi9uh7d
      @user-pe8yi9uh7d Год назад +16

      ​@@art-games6230 depends on what you want to counter
      Proportions of different blueprints are key

    • @art-games6230
      @art-games6230 Год назад +8

      @@user-pe8yi9uh7d yes, but I personally like generalist designs since I make a lot of enemies, and in the 3 crises use vastly different technology, so a generalist design is basically required

    • @katra5673
      @katra5673 Год назад +27

      @@art-games6230 Montu used a mix of hangars (12:01 + 26:19) and I assume whirlwind missiles (that starbase has 2 armor and 1 shield as seen from him hovering over it, example: 25:18)- to maximize range (but this is a guess because it's never shown). His starbase template is shown at 32:19.
      You can probably find out what weapon he uses for that second set of starbases from the fights... but I don't know them lol but hey, 30:55 has an engagement if you want to try to guess.

  • @FarmerSlayerFromTheEdoPeriod
    @FarmerSlayerFromTheEdoPeriod Год назад +376

    Montu running that wood elf build, tucked away in his little corner, killing everything that comes into his forest of citadels.

  • @mariotcarreon
    @mariotcarreon Год назад +627

    That gleeful laugh at the end where you see your defenses hold. I understand that feeling.
    Do a gigastructures run, Montu, and do this again with Maginot worlds. :D

    • @the13inquisitor59
      @the13inquisitor59 Год назад +22

      Throw in At War for Planetary Defense Batteries and Hangars.
      And don't skimp on the Planetary Defense Shipyards.

    • @ricardorobinson549
      @ricardorobinson549 Год назад +13

      Some asteroid artillery are always fun

    • @grinchiestgrinch7289
      @grinchiestgrinch7289 Год назад +5

      ​@the13inquisitor59 playing a game with my friend now and his fleet cap is pitiful compared to mine 😂 double at least

    • @victorrosolino8522
      @victorrosolino8522 Год назад +5

      If he plays with 25x crisis then Maginot will be a good challenge

    • @nyechapple5332
      @nyechapple5332 Год назад +5

      that system with 3x maginot worlds, and 3x defense nexus with 1000 strike corvettes each would probably be chilling till the end of time.

  • @IainG10
    @IainG10 Год назад +164

    Lathrix: keeps Crisis remnant as pet
    Montu: gets kept as pet by Crisis....

    • @jrim7887
      @jrim7887 3 месяца назад +5

      Is it really a pet if you don't want it?

  • @art-games6230
    @art-games6230 Год назад +160

    The most interesting about this is the crises avoiding montu’s space, it shows that even though the starbases can be cost effective, they still have the problem of not being flexible and not being able to force a fast conclusion to a war

    • @ryanrizqullah306
      @ryanrizqullah306 9 месяцев назад +14

      well, it's never was a solution to end it quickly. but, in long run, you might only need to defeat one crisis because they will kill each other before they can break your defenses and by then you will have fleet strong enough to defeat them in one fell swoop. defense is there to buy you time.

    • @nathanael9522
      @nathanael9522 6 месяцев назад

      @art-games6230 @ryanrizqullah306 I would say you guys are both right, but it depends on your empire build, and galactic events. As a general rule, it is better to invest in fleets because they are far more dynamic throughout a whole run.
      For instance the alloys invested in defensive starbases(upgrades and defense platforms) could have been used for ships leading to straight domination through the early-mid-late game. Acquiring either new systems or vassals, end goal being the same, more resources. More resources = more ships, more ships = more conquest = more resources, etc, the cycle continues until crisis. Then overwhelm them with vassals/federation allies and your massive fleets using the "take point" function. That is the easiest way of beating 25x.
      However, defensive station are excellent for 'tall'/'slow-burn' empires like tech runs can be(not always the case, depends how you play it). My last stellaris run, I was making over 100k science with 20 million power stations and a relative small space, while accumulating more and more megastructures after one of the three 25x crisis destroyed that system. So long story short, it depends on what you want to do

    • @damonedrington3453
      @damonedrington3453 3 месяца назад +1

      @@ryanrizqullah306unfortunately, the crises can’t really kill each other fully.

  • @Azzaciel
    @Azzaciel Год назад +257

    ~26:10
    I think you need a second set of defence platforms that's full armour.
    Because unless shield hardening stops the neutron star shield nullification, your 5-shield platforms are undoubtedly underperforming by quite a lot in that system.
    You can even see your Starbase with just 4k shield and your platforms with an empty bar at :19.

    • @dazeyndrowsy
      @dazeyndrowsy Год назад +47

      Montu did this when there was a bug where defence platforms would be given the armour bonus that the starbase got
      so if you had a citadel, defence platforms would receive +40000 armour

    • @Azzaciel
      @Azzaciel Год назад +27

      @@dazeyndrowsy And? That's immaterial to my argument.
      He's still building 5 shield-slot Platforms in a system with 100% shield nullification.
      That's wasted alloys and energy.
      Even if it's not bugged and he only gets what armour he should actually get, it's still an improvement over paying alloys and eventually gas for 0 shields.
      Maybe shields give a bigger number than armour for the combat power calc so he used it to get 1m, it's still actually worse than a station with less power that actually has working defences for it's platforms.

    • @MontuPlays
      @MontuPlays  Год назад +107

      @@Azzaciel defenses we're pretty irrelevant because they killed everything before it got into range. Agreed it was suboptimal to have shields on a starbase with shield nullification, but I couldn't be bothered to change it

    • @detachsoup6061
      @detachsoup6061 Год назад +4

      @@MontuPlays other question, why did you pick here be dragons and the evolution ascension? Wouldnt other builds be more beneficial to this objective?
      Also why didnt you go for fallen empire tech? Or dragon armor tech?

    • @Hidden_Sage
      @Hidden_Sage Год назад +17

      @@detachsoup6061 That's actually addressed in the video. The Dragon basically serves the role of a starbase over your home system in the early game- it's considered an allied unit, and anyone declaring war on you would have to fight it to take your home system. Since it's valued at ~30-35k fleet strength, it'll be several decades before anyone can fight it (even without backup from fleets or starbases of your own)

  • @alexmiller1800
    @alexmiller1800 Год назад +151

    I’d love to see a galaxy where it’s just Unbidden, Prethoryn, and Contingency battling it out of control of the galaxy and Montu’s little Switzerland weathering the storm. A gentle city ringed by hundreds of defensive platforms.

    • @infernaltrys
      @infernaltrys 8 месяцев назад +61

      I just imagine a little unbidden kid with a galactic map asking his dad about the world
      "Hey dad, what's over there?"
      "That's Prethoryn territory my son."
      "And there?"
      "This is the Contigency's sector."
      "And what's that little spot right here?"
      "...that's the Vulcan Science Directorate. Son, never go there. You won't be coming back."

    • @battlesheep2552
      @battlesheep2552 7 месяцев назад +13

      Basically my ideal Inward Perfection game. Just me tending to my garden while the rest of the galaxy burns

    • @jackcastle4810
      @jackcastle4810 2 месяца назад +2

      I didn't know they could spawn at the same time.

  • @PLScypion
    @PLScypion Год назад +95

    Montu out there creating a defense hyper-citadel-fortress-interstellar-system that can only be countered by firing up Aetherophasic Engine. Respect.

    • @TruthHunterTeen
      @TruthHunterTeen Год назад +13

      Oh no. No.
      Also from the gigastructure mod is a nicoli-dyson cannon.
      No turtle system can survive a shot... literally.
      Destroys all things in sys, cracks all planets, sun is now a black hole and all hyperlinks are removed.

    • @plmokm33
      @plmokm33 4 месяца назад +6

      @@TruthHunterTeen I'm sure there are plenty of mods that can break this, but we're not talking about mods.

  • @pixelchrome2
    @pixelchrome2 Год назад +78

    I actually can see how this would happen as
    1. prethoryn scourge attacks galaxy
    2. unbidden see this as a lot of prey, so it's a good time to start hunting in this galaxy
    3. contingency see unbidden as a threat therefore it also attacks the galaxy

    • @thomashowe855
      @thomashowe855 Год назад +6

      feeding frenzy?

    • @theinternetpolice2078
      @theinternetpolice2078 6 месяцев назад +1

      Quarry? Is that the word you're looking for?

    • @pixelchrome2
      @pixelchrome2 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@theinternetpolice2078 I really don't know, English isn't my native language, so maybe

    • @douglaswetak9686
      @douglaswetak9686 Месяц назад

      Prey is the word you are looking for

    • @pixelchrome2
      @pixelchrome2 Месяц назад

      @@douglaswetak9686 oh, yeah, that seems to be right

  • @synthetic240
    @synthetic240 Год назад +168

    I think you forgot to mention the Zroni Stormcaster thing a bit earlier in the video. Still, that's really strong.

    • @RandomGuy-qr5jw
      @RandomGuy-qr5jw Год назад +24

      The real question here is: How did Montu get the Storm Caster with the First League as Precursor? If someone know this (and the answer is not cheating), for the love of god, please tell me. Then I can stop restarting over and over again for the Zroni

    • @RandomGuy-qr5jw
      @RandomGuy-qr5jw Год назад +27

      @@karhukoira Did not see it, thank you! Paradox really needs to add an option to choose the precursor you get. And an option to choose the L-Gate outcome

    • @synthetic240
      @synthetic240 Год назад +1

      @@RandomGuy-qr5jw Good point!

    • @lantami1199
      @lantami1199 Год назад +17

      @@RandomGuy-qr5jw There's a mod called "Known Precursor" that let's you choose your precursor, or even none or multiple if you'd like to. Not sure if it's been updated to fit the current version though

    • @mothman8300
      @mothman8300 Год назад +1

      @@lantami1199 Not sure if entirely up to date but definitely useable and gets updated reasonably quickly

  • @seondeok3895
    @seondeok3895 Год назад +49

    You could add an Inward perfectionism for flat +30% defense platform hull points and +30% damage output, this is a counsellor position tho, and maxed out on chancellor lvl 10

  • @Tayvin4042
    @Tayvin4042 Год назад +59

    Okay, yeah, we definitely need to see this ultimate defense put up against the ultimate challenge: 25x Crisis!

  • @kmsedgy2115
    @kmsedgy2115 Год назад +56

    Oh boy im almost scared with how long that leader trait tierlist is taking. Its gonna be LARGE

    • @MontuPlays
      @MontuPlays  Год назад +35

      No comment...
      The 3.8.3 rework really messed it about and I've had to redo large parts

    • @kmsedgy2115
      @kmsedgy2115 Год назад +5

      @@MontuPlays Oof that sucks. Best luck to you my friend!

    • @LadyMorrigan
      @LadyMorrigan Год назад +8

      @@MontuPlays just wait until they nerf the resource traits again right before you release it and you have to redo it all over 💀

    • @memoria964
      @memoria964 2 месяца назад

      Funny you should say that

  • @StarboyXL9
    @StarboyXL9 Год назад +49

    It's worth noting that many players don't bother exploring how much more effective they can make their defensive Starbases by designing a wide variety of platforms with weapons that are meant to compliment each other in battle. Combining flak, missile, and strike craft platforms can be devastatingly powerful despite seemingly being much weaker than the opposing fleet.

    • @mattor300
      @mattor300 6 месяцев назад +5

      Its mostly strong as a support for your fleet, essentialy I remember a game where my friend dubled my fleet strenght but I had a starbase with few long range defenses on it, when my fleet was buying time the starbase was blasting, I barelly won but victory is victory, then I stomped him with my 5k alloy production hahaha (went for a super late game build)

    • @minivanmonkey
      @minivanmonkey 4 месяца назад +1

      This is actually hilarious. OP "People don't realize that if you build the platforms correctly, your starbase can defeat massive fleets by itself without a supporting fleet."
      Only comment under it "Starbases are useless except for just some support for your fleet"

    • @mattor300
      @mattor300 4 месяца назад

      @@minivanmonkey i didn't say its useless, I did say tho that they are not that amazing on their own, as in my opinion they are a bit to squishy, meaning that a fleet of comparable size can kill it, add few ships to tank the damage tho and you get an amazing damage platform...
      It should be noted I didn't play the game for a while so maybe there was an update that buffed them

    • @minivanmonkey
      @minivanmonkey 4 месяца назад

      @@mattor300 I was being hyperbolic, but I think the main point was that with a proper build and mix of defensive platforms they can actually be that strong without a fleet backing them up. Recently I had a game I got the zroni storm caster and build a ton of plasma and ancient driller drone platforms with ancient ramparts fully stacked. It Absolutely wrecked a 205k fleet that tried to attack me by itself. Often if I mix in a good variety of platforms even without the zroni cheese I can get starbases that repel very strong fleets on their own. (Taking unyielding tree and the ascension defensive one)

    • @mattor300
      @mattor300 4 месяца назад

      @@minivanmonkey hmm you may be up to something, overall I think their main weaknesses is their lack of mobility, again I talk pvp, essentially You've spent large amount of alloys to secure a single sector, but often there manny points the enemy can go in, and if you want to have a base in each one your fleet will be lacking, meaning the enemy can stack up their fleets and push a single spot, and as your fleet is quite weak you have lets say effectively 50k fleet strenght worth of defense while you have another 150k sitting somewhere doing nothing, while the enemy has his full 300k there, lets say your fleet is 100k, best fight you can get is 150k vs 300k again only if you're even, but lets face it if you can field bases and a fleet to rival your oponent you still whould probably be better of having those alloys in your fleet...
      That being said tho if you're being limited by the fleet capacity then yea bases may be a good idea to upgrade, especially if you have a single good and important choke point...

  • @gallendugall8913
    @gallendugall8913 Год назад +33

    Vulcans on an ocean world? Heresy! I approve.

  • @anthonyvandehey5553
    @anthonyvandehey5553 Год назад +128

    Your overlord probably lost a liberation war, which is why your ethics and leader changed.
    Also, how did you get Zroni Storm Casters if you got the First League? Is there some other way to get the tech besides secrets of the Zroni?

    • @JerreyRough
      @JerreyRough Год назад +34

      It's in the video description, he force spawned the zroni storm caster (so he didn't have to keep rerolling to get the zroni).

    • @anthonyvandehey5553
      @anthonyvandehey5553 Год назад +1

      ​@@JerreyRough Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't see that when I first watched the video

    • @MontuPlays
      @MontuPlays  Год назад +36

      Yeah, only issue with that theory is that I was never in an ideology war...

    • @ericmccommon7705
      @ericmccommon7705 Год назад +13

      @@MontuPlays I think the election that changed your ruler (at least) happened when you were choosing a trait for a scientist, I noticed the game wasn't paused and notifications were flying left and right for like a minute or more. Might've been where the ethics shift happened too.

    • @halonut96
      @halonut96 7 месяцев назад +1

      And that's why I never vecome someone's vassal

  • @LG-jn5fx
    @LG-jn5fx Год назад

    Fantastic advert for Surfshark. I normally skip the adverts but was so entertaining I stuck around to iisten to it.

  • @ih4286
    @ih4286 Год назад +3

    This is great, I always wanted to try a build like this one.

  • @superdark336
    @superdark336 Год назад +19

    now i wonder how that kind of fortress would look like in a Terminal Egress with three orbital rings...

    • @TrueWolves
      @TrueWolves Год назад +9

      Get the new Paragon that can terraform barren worlds and make that 6.

  • @vasheroo
    @vasheroo Год назад +2

    I just finished an aquatic hivemind empire with a general hydrophilic agenda of turning every world into a waterworld. When making my chokepoints, the zroni storm caster made it so fun to create these all these hull/armor shredding machines. It was incredibly effective in terminal egress. I started just watching the flights try the mad dash for the platforms just to get shredded with very little chance to disengage. ITS A TRAP!

  • @darkguild69
    @darkguild69 Год назад +9

    I would love to see you do a video on this with 25x crisis lol. Maybe at the end even go crisis yourself and have the rest of the galaxy declare war on you with maxed out buffs for them.

  • @justgoodvibes1500
    @justgoodvibes1500 Год назад +7

    You can use the ancient battelments / fortifications for even more defense platforms. (Starbase module)

  • @chonkules7654
    @chonkules7654 Год назад

    I'm so glad you're doing these again, they're my favorite to watch while I eat

  • @worldlinezero4783
    @worldlinezero4783 Год назад +17

    Damn Montu, I really wanted to impregnate those space stations. Really disappointed.

    • @AlliedMastercomputer1967
      @AlliedMastercomputer1967 Год назад +6

      Don't fuck the Space Stations, for the love of the Shroud!

    • @MontuPlays
      @MontuPlays  Год назад +13

      I guess you just didn't have 10 good men...

    • @cockman8437
      @cockman8437 Год назад +3

      @@AlliedMastercomputer1967 all my homies hate the driven exterminators, all my homies love the rogue servitors

    • @AlliedMastercomputer1967
      @AlliedMastercomputer1967 Год назад

      @@cockman8437 Damn Organoboos, always trying to stop me from killing organics.

  • @joehelland1635
    @joehelland1635 Год назад

    thta was a pretty good plug, background was perfect. :D

  • @Specopleader
    @Specopleader Год назад +27

    WHAT were the weapons you had on your defense platforms by the time the crisis happened?

    • @MrMrblazer1234
      @MrMrblazer1234 9 месяцев назад

      did you ever figure this out?

    • @Specopleader
      @Specopleader 8 месяцев назад

      @@MrMrblazer1234 Nope

    • @MrMrblazer1234
      @MrMrblazer1234 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@Specopleader turns out he posted them in the description of the video-- it was neutron launcher platforms, hanger platforms, and nothing else so far as i understand

    • @Specopleader
      @Specopleader 8 месяцев назад

      @@MrMrblazer1234 interesting. good to know thanks

    • @MrMrblazer1234
      @MrMrblazer1234 8 месяцев назад

      o7@@Specopleader

  • @nuker6724
    @nuker6724 Год назад

    Always intersting to see these playthroughs, especially since I never get to live through a playthrough of my own. Even on ensign lol

  • @eythankarp5221
    @eythankarp5221 Год назад +24

    What was the final defense platform build?

  • @daddysempaichan
    @daddysempaichan Год назад +4

    The only thing you're missing is the Ancient Ramparts modules for an extra 12 Defense Platforms. Also it gives some Armor and Armor Hardening for your Starbase but who cares for that. There's also the Defense-Grid Super-Computer Building that gives an extra 8 Defense Platforms, squeezing just that bit more firepower for your Starbases. Once your done building DPs, just switch buildings for something else. And if you weren't going for the Zroni Stormcasters you could build the Ancient Shield Overcharger for lots of Shields and Shield Hardening on your DPs. There's also the Mercenary Garrison building from Mercenary Enclave for the extra 15% attack speed, stack with Command Center, I believe, for a spicy 25% attack speed.
    As for factor you can't control, Orbital Rings. If you can get them, they're great for the extra building slots, letting you stack all the building effects. And they could build their own DPs as well, with the ones farther back having Ion Cannons so they can still chip in. Although against the Crisis you'll probably not want to build Orbital Rings on the planets next to where the Crisis is going to come in from, for obvious reasons.
    If you really want the Ultimate Defense System, Worm. Get Worm, Black Hole System with lots of inhabitable Planets for Orbital Rings and an obscene amounts of DPs, or just Ions Cannons, even. Heck, if we're talking about just taking down Crisis the Ruination Glare, the Titan weapon with Mad DPS but short range will probably be great, due to the 50% range Starbase Building.
    That's about all I can think of with improving the defense.

    • @fortniteslavemaster
      @fortniteslavemaster 11 месяцев назад

      he has the defense grid supercomputer on his starbases you moron.

  • @Cerms
    @Cerms Год назад +18

    would inward perfection work? Up to 30% damage and hull hp.

    • @BrisingrFan55
      @BrisingrFan55 Год назад

      A solid idea, but I'm pretty sure Inward Perfectionist prevents you from becoming a vassal, does it not? If that is the case, the 50% from Bullwark 3 is better, but if I'm wrong, then both stacking sounds great.

  • @daviddanielkoller2050
    @daviddanielkoller2050 Год назад +2

    On my last pre-Paragon save I also got to millions of fleet power with starbases, I love it! I went into a different route, with Inward Perfection instead of being a Bastion vassal.

  • @user-gn8op2yb3y
    @user-gn8op2yb3y Год назад

    this reminds me of the phalanx in 40K, great stuff, and keep up the amazing work!

  • @caZed3100
    @caZed3100 Год назад +3

    could be a cool idea to focus defense platform buildspeed and simply build infinite platforms during a battle to make it impossible to lose

  • @bahemutking12
    @bahemutking12 Год назад +2

    OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH this BOUT TO GET INTERESTING.....
    Maniacally rubs palms together while snickering

  • @Strange_Bard
    @Strange_Bard Год назад +5

    With the Archeotech modules they'd be even stronger lol. I would love to see it with those instead.

  • @SorenHall
    @SorenHall Год назад +12

    I'd like to see how you do with this in an mp game, if you can just turtle and outscore everyone. Probably necessary to add a mod that gives starbases and platforms diplo weight but I think it'd be worth doing a game to see what happens. Would be an amusing watch anyways.

    • @tgoas3503
      @tgoas3503 Год назад +10

      I mean, it'd be a fantastic strategy for MP if your plan was to become the crisis. You can slap down the Aetherophasic Engine in your capital system and just watch as the entire galaxy fails to push into your defences.

  • @gabernment
    @gabernment Год назад +2

    33:42
    Can't imagine the audacity of those synths, trying to infiltrate and scare your empire when they don't see the 700K power citadels glaring upon them as their Contingency papa gets mutilated to death

  • @MorebitsUK
    @MorebitsUK Год назад

    Aweseome, I'll have to test it against ACOT and I love the references.

  • @greenshaddy3000
    @greenshaddy3000 Год назад +1

    I think the new under one rule origin offers a leader trait that buffs your def platforms even more, u could also use that :D

  • @Immortalits
    @Immortalits Год назад +3

    Wouldn't it be even more self-reliant and stable with hiveminds?
    Like you could do your own overlord on a specialized planet, surrounded by your own territory for protectorate stuff, you get extra 15% boost on your starbase from offspring building and have immortal council, never in need of replacement, and can also double on the starbase boost by picking the admiral hivemind too...
    The generals would be the same probably.

  • @Maadhawk
    @Maadhawk Год назад +1

    I been doing 1mil+ fleet power bulwarks for months now in my games. I go psionic with zroni-stormcasters though. And driller drones.

  • @marcokluc2174
    @marcokluc2174 Год назад +1

    This video reminds me of my choke point system with neutron star and citadel with defensive platforms focused on armor defenses and armor and hull damage with about 400k power. I also melted everything in there.

  • @queenophiuca4999
    @queenophiuca4999 Год назад +3

    >Impregnable.
    Oh, so you think!

  • @Sylvie_without_surname
    @Sylvie_without_surname 16 дней назад

    It’s always wild to me when I see a reminder of just how much Stellaris changes in a year. I’ve been playing since launch, and I so easily lose track of what changed when. Hell, it’s easy to forget that some things even changed at all, like planets being the anchor points of your empire.

  • @TheNo15
    @TheNo15 Год назад

    I've always wondered what the best defensive build is, this should be fun

  • @matthewshields
    @matthewshields Год назад +1

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  • @soffren
    @soffren Год назад

    This sounds fun. I've always wanted to try something like this

  • @holyheckism
    @holyheckism Год назад +2

    I'm playing a 25x crisis run and was super excited to see this, too bad all the bonuses I didn't have yet are in dlc I don't have :( I guess I just need to settle with my 300k stations

  • @nathanael9522
    @nathanael9522 6 месяцев назад +1

    I did a similar run, full tech rush. By the time the first 25x crisis came my stations were at 5 million. The rest showed up and could not contend. I stopped playing because it got boring, but I think the year was 2450-2475 but my stations were closer to 20-25 million. I was roleplaying as the ancients if anyone knows the tv show Stargate

  • @shadowstar1002
    @shadowstar1002 Год назад +1

    Well this has completely changed my opinion of starbases and defense platforms.😮😮😮😮

  • @remipearce597
    @remipearce597 Год назад +2

    Finally a build suited to my playstyle, definitely not going to use this against in my hosted games... (I am definitely using this)

  • @syradon4051
    @syradon4051 Год назад +3

    What was your platform loadout and do you use ion cannons? Without bullwark and the new dlc i reached about 600k fleetpower on my starbases as hivemind orgin.

  • @theark1400
    @theark1400 Год назад

    My computers hard drive kicked the bucket so iv been trying not to watch videos of games that were on my computer so I don’t wanna play them really bad, unfortunately you posted so I gotta watch

  • @sirvampier8356
    @sirvampier8356 Год назад +1

    I know the Commander of the Watch councilor from the inward Perfection civic provides more defense platform bonuses, and not sure when it is active in the video, but I am use you used the agenda from unyielding. Does inward perfection prevent you from being a subject, or does it make you more dependent on an empire attacking you for vassalization?
    Additionally, how did you get the 7 trait options for that leader at 22:06?

  • @molybdaen11
    @molybdaen11 Год назад +10

    So you use the vassal contracts, general traits, normal defensive social policy, a accention perk for better bases and nebulars.
    Then you build a million starfighters and experience how a queen bee feels in her hive.
    What happens if your overlord perishes, do you lose all your benefits?

    • @michaellopate4969
      @michaellopate4969 Год назад +5

      just surround your overlord so they're trapped. It's like an interstellar version of rogue servitor, they get to sit in their little systems and be "in charge" while you actually do everything.

  • @velho6298
    @velho6298 Год назад +1

    Renowned leader Jynn brought his pupil with him! He was too stronk

  • @GenericName1084
    @GenericName1084 9 месяцев назад

    Okay that add transition was smooth tho

  • @TheOnlyBritishGuy
    @TheOnlyBritishGuy Год назад +4

    what if you combine this with planetary rings as well?

    • @molybdaen11
      @molybdaen11 Год назад

      Even more space for fighters.
      But this only works on systs with planets and take away the 3 destructs boost.

  • @nickshupe8375
    @nickshupe8375 Год назад +1

    I really enjoy these build videos, very digestible and make me want to go and play! And I imagine they are somewhat easier than the large playthroughs to make.

  • @MartinHudec81
    @MartinHudec81 11 месяцев назад

    Good gods... though interesting to see that feature (or a bug) when having more starbases than allowed (well, they're built, so they won't get just scrapped, but I would expect some energy credits costs).

  • @dragonkingofthestars
    @dragonkingofthestars 2 месяца назад

    intresting the new Robo-mommy hard counters this perfect defense as she forces you to address her

  • @tamnker8465
    @tamnker8465 Год назад

    I love how you literally bid the unbidden in.

  • @savirianwinter1656
    @savirianwinter1656 11 месяцев назад

    One of the civilization's next to my mine in the playthrough I am doing, automatically made me apart of their federation because I was everything they wanted in an Ally.
    So they really liked me from the get go, and now we have 6 federation members before even the half way mark in the game.

  • @nicolaszan1845
    @nicolaszan1845 11 месяцев назад +2

    I just got a playthrough where I simultaneously was fighting The Chosen (fanatic purifiers), the Unbidden, and both Awakened Empires.
    But luckily, I had watched this video and thought it sounded like fun, so my territory was entirely impregnable, no navy needed. Sure, all my vassals were dying horrible deaths while knocking on the gates for me to help, but I was safe and sound, and as the galaxy burned around me, I drank a little bit of wine while the flames danced in my eyes.

  • @jamesforgie6594
    @jamesforgie6594 Год назад

    Can I just say how much I adore the memes spread throughout this video?

  • @shrimpy_nazeem
    @shrimpy_nazeem Год назад

    I’m trying to follow along the best I can as a new rookie player. I’m still trying to learn what research to take early on

  • @homefront1999
    @homefront1999 Год назад +2

    You know Monty, I was sitting and playing Stellaris. I realized you haven't done a " All Paragon Leaders ranked" And I am baffled, yet now eagerly wait.
    I don't know if anyone can confirm. But I was playing a session where I had 4 Paragon leaders. One of them was Warform, a slaver, a spy, and a General-slaver. I went to use the Archaeo-Tech Ascension perk, and I saw on the bottom that an even would happen for two of my leaders. Warform and someone else, I believe the slaver. But no event ever happened, and when I tried to recreate that. Nothing happened. Am I just delusional?

  • @NishiTheRat
    @NishiTheRat 9 месяцев назад

    for the line at the end all I can say is only until the devs teach the AI how to do espionage and sabotaging stations

  • @discountlenin3581
    @discountlenin3581 6 месяцев назад +1

    yk ironically I did this by complete accident, even the most powerful armies struggled to get past the 4 or so choke points I created to whittle them down as I send 3 big ass fleets after them, hand tuned to literally murder anything

  • @Jokie155
    @Jokie155 Год назад +2

    The Galactic Senate really needs an overhaul.
    I ended up quitting the community altogether in my latest run, because after nearly TWO CENTURIES of 90% of factions violating the 'gotta have mercs at war' law (because they dont know how to make enclaves and I couldn't as a Machine Empire), and constantly pushing my repeal down and down and down...
    ...they deliberately failed the repeal.
    Seeing it prioritize dumb stuff like Guardian Angels over focusing on the Crisis just really reminded me of that.

    • @markthompson6139
      @markthompson6139 Год назад

      So the Galactic Senate works about as well as the U.S. Senate and House. Or the U.N. For that matter. I don’t know if that is more depressing or comical.

  • @nikolassaraiva9088
    @nikolassaraiva9088 Год назад +8

    What was the final build for the Defense Platforms?

    • @molybdaen11
      @molybdaen11 Год назад +8

      2 hangars, 5 shields and 2 shield hardeners.

    • @MrBartolomeo22
      @MrBartolomeo22 Год назад

      @@molybdaen11 Shield hardeners cancel the pulsar effect?

  • @QuestionableObject
    @QuestionableObject Год назад +1

    Do traits like protector only effect the starbase in the same system as the planet the leader is on? Or empire wide.

    • @QuestionableObject
      @QuestionableObject Год назад

      @PhillyWilly in the Philippines Oh I see-
      Like with the starbase building lol.

  • @complex314i
    @complex314i 5 месяцев назад

    The symbol you can select that looks like Pack Man with the mouth pointing down is the actual symbol of the Vulcans in Star Trek. It represents Mt Seleya where Saruk, the original father of Vulcan logic died.

  • @matheusGMN
    @matheusGMN Год назад +10

    at the end, which design were you using for the defense platforms? it didn't look like you were using the only strike craft one

    • @jemal999
      @jemal999 Год назад

      Early on it showed strike craft in his first design of the platforms (12:00), and later the enemy was shooting at *something* but not getting any damage (33:20) - There's no way they were getting 100% misses against defense platforms & Stations with 0 evasion, so they must have been shooting down either strike craft or torpedoes/missiles.
      My guess would be the strike craft.

    • @TrueChaoSclx
      @TrueChaoSclx Год назад

      He replied on another comment. One is hangars, one is neutron launchers.

  • @sierra0756
    @sierra0756 Год назад

    nothing is impregnable with ten good men and some climbing spikes

  • @Telenil
    @Telenil Год назад

    That sponsor intro was awesome :D

  • @dragmire3D
    @dragmire3D 9 месяцев назад

    Would the Ancient Ramparts instead of weapons be a better use of slots in the starbases for the bonuses and extra platform cap?

  • @chriswho12345
    @chriswho12345 Год назад

    good ad transition

  • @Willow4526
    @Willow4526 Год назад

    Recently had a similar game where being a vassal was the most powerful thing, minus being impregnable, as I was impregnated multiple times from two different sides, enough so I was pushed back to one system & vassalised. I was able to get a contract that allowed me max resources possible from my overlord, which led me to build the tallest I've ever gone, so much so that before I overthrew my overlord, i was strong enough to have 300K diplomatic power.

  • @irodwen
    @irodwen Год назад +6

    what was your defence platform design(s)?

    • @MontuPlays
      @MontuPlays  Год назад +5

      Oh, 2 designs, carriers and neutron launchers

  • @homefront1999
    @homefront1999 Год назад

    Coming back here. But is there any reason to not taking Inward Perfectionist? As it gives the Council position that gives buffs to Defense Platforms?

  • @Lothyde
    @Lothyde Год назад +3

    wait, you built defensive platforms with shields only on the system with the pulsar with shield nullification, doesn't that disabled all shields from the defensive platforms?

  • @TheAderwolf
    @TheAderwolf Год назад

    would be nice to know hwat kind of defensive platforms u where using. i htink hangar and proton launchers from the looks of it but im not 100% sure

  • @Appppl1eee
    @Appppl1eee 2 месяца назад

    "simply bonkers" among the best words ever spoken.

  • @UnnamedEmperor
    @UnnamedEmperor Год назад +1

    For the actual defense platforms, it's just one design of pure hangars and one design of pure neutron launchers, right? and is it a 50/50 split of the stations so that starbase with 110 platforms has 55 of each?

  • @sofishticated289
    @sofishticated289 3 месяца назад +1

    how did you equip the defence modules? only with hanger stations and shields?

  • @vorgonrynkodan1569
    @vorgonrynkodan1569 Год назад

    Why Neutron Launchers instead of Swarmer Missiles? I assume the combat computer is different between the NL platforms and the Hangar platforms? or could we do half a platform as hangars and half NL or missiles?

  • @alexiosgrillis
    @alexiosgrillis 8 месяцев назад

    These advertisement transitions have me on the floor laughing.

  • @smile-tl9in
    @smile-tl9in Год назад

    The best unity rush build is a materialist equalitarian build...Love it !

  • @MyLifeIsAFrickingMess_MRPOLSKA

    He really done taken a page outta the French Militaries book

  • @mosi1234
    @mosi1234 9 месяцев назад

    Every time i hear someone says todays sponsor i just dobbeltap my phone so i skip 60-80 sec and the ad is over

  • @thedischarger12
    @thedischarger12 Год назад +1

    then Maginot Worlds
    2 million power
    most likely PDN to spam corrvets
    and oribital rings for extra defense
    and ZoFE for fallen empire stuff
    and prevents QSO and NDB from firing and any ships entering
    and you can use gateways or hyper relay so you can still enter but they cannot

  • @nitrothechampzach4702
    @nitrothechampzach4702 Год назад

    I wish you would've done a time lapse of the galaxy being taken over and ur empire just unchanged.

  • @gogoshell6553
    @gogoshell6553 Год назад +3

    The only thing he didn't show us was the weapons and armor and shields he was using

  • @idkmanlifesucks4627
    @idkmanlifesucks4627 Год назад

    I had a similar build like that on my PS Stellaris, and the unbidden were devouring every other empires, so they threw at least 4mil fleets on 700k stations and they didn't break through, not once

  • @MatrixFC-bz6dj
    @MatrixFC-bz6dj 11 месяцев назад

    hi which ship should I choose to have the colossus at minute 9.30 of the video?