This Strat Revolutionized Trackmania's Hardest Maps

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
  • Trackmania players will stop at nothing to achieve their goals, and finishing the hardest Kackiest Kacky tracks is no exception. This is the story of the discovery, popularization, progression, abuse, and eventual redemption of Trackmania's simplest strat.
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    Special thanks to / @exlpt2234 for creating the thumbnail. :)

Комментарии • 356

  • @bettaTM
    @bettaTM  Год назад +702

    Fun fact: All b-roll shots in this video are on Kacky tracks which have had low-input strats discovered.

    • @milknuggetzgaming4723
      @milknuggetzgaming4723 Год назад +8

      Stunning

    • @RubyPiec
      @RubyPiec Год назад +1

      b-roll?

    • @milknuggetzgaming4723
      @milknuggetzgaming4723 Год назад +16

      B-roll is all the extra like scenery shots not necessarily main part of the video

    • @thegamer97HS
      @thegamer97HS Год назад +1

      can you explain how the failed run had the exact same 8 inputs of the wr, when the game is detrministic? im confused.

    • @RubyPiec
      @RubyPiec Год назад

      @@thegamer97HS probably wrong timing

  • @hardikgupta8496
    @hardikgupta8496 Год назад +441

    Almost makes me stop missing Wirtual's documentaries. This was such a fun watch!

    • @fjaps
      @fjaps Год назад

      Wdym missing

    • @Oscwal
      @Oscwal 6 месяцев назад +19

      @@fjapshe barely uploads

    • @Dalroc
      @Dalroc 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@Oscwal Yeah he kinda stopped after being exposed for cheating after the release of Midori.

    • @Oscwal
      @Oscwal 6 месяцев назад +20

      @@Dalroc what? I don’t think you understood that situation correctly…

    • @jakubfrgal7112
      @jakubfrgal7112 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@Dalroc excuse me, what?

  • @TmOnlineMapper
    @TmOnlineMapper Год назад +229

    I absolutely hate the sentiment of gatekeeping information because there are bad actors.
    Keeping such information secret helps no one. Bad actors are always there and the only way to find them is by looking for them, questioning achievements (by everyone) and double checking suspicous activity.
    Additionally throwing bad actors "easy" targets makes exposing them easier.

    • @gmdFrame
      @gmdFrame 6 месяцев назад +19

      Yes. That way way of thinking is always harmful to everyone, and nobody should be like that.

    • @dragoninja5489
      @dragoninja5489 5 месяцев назад +4

      I agree

    • @Shelleloch
      @Shelleloch 3 месяца назад +2

      The thing is, withholding partial difficult low-input-strats raises the barrier for entry of these bad actors considerably. Especially since these strats are incomplete and generally unfeasible for humans to execute with any consistency, they aren't of any use to anyone except the bad actors.
      And so, in this very specific case, withholding this information is effectively inconsequential.
      The general sentiment is right though, this is just a rather unfortunate unique case.
      Setting up honeypot easy targets only catches the idiots who wouldn't have tried it if not for the partial strats being available. (e.g. Sinon only needed to not have posted that cam3 recording to not get caught.)

  • @Rastats
    @Rastats Год назад +153

    That my friend is an insane video, outstanding storytelling and very good editing!

  • @caliburnleaf9323
    @caliburnleaf9323 Год назад +14

    What's the point of concealing strats just because a cheater might use it? It's like when teachers punish a whole class because of one misbehaving child; the misbehaving child keeps misbehaving, while everyone else suffers for it. There's always going to be cheaters in games, but the vast majority of players are honest. Communities are supposed to help each other and foster competition, but concealing strats does neither. A community that isn't open with each other can hardly be called a community at all.

  • @michaelwaters1358
    @michaelwaters1358 Год назад +57

    I have not heard of you before but your narration and story building is excellent. Look forward to more videos.

  • @xSwitchB1ade
    @xSwitchB1ade Год назад +96

    You should create an audio track that could be played alongside the map with beeps at consistent timings just before the inputs are needed. maybe 350-500ms before? The sound cues would likely be REALLY helpful.

    • @jorishenger1240
      @jorishenger1240 Год назад +5

      I could try when i get home, if you reply to this reply in a week i remember

    • @romeolz
      @romeolz Год назад +1

      ​@@jorishenger1240I'm slightly late

    • @jorishenger1240
      @jorishenger1240 Год назад +1

      @@romeolz ty, ill do my best

    • @Error-ys5qj
      @Error-ys5qj Год назад

      @@jorishenger1240how’s it coming?

    • @jorishenger1240
      @jorishenger1240 Год назад

      @@Error-ys5qj fuck i forgor

  • @Iwatoda_Dorm
    @Iwatoda_Dorm Год назад +26

    Goes to show that the best story tellers are the ones who have experienced it themselves. You seem like an absolute genius figuring these out and are a god send to the kacky participators. Especially for those rng maps, absolute legendary status xD.

  • @AwJack
    @AwJack Год назад +24

    I never thought I'd be as interested as I was watching a video on such a simple yet intriguing premise in our favorite racing game. The presentation was spot on, and I found myself deeply engaged way more than I'd have ever anticipated. Excellent video man! You've earned a new sub, and I hope from others many more.

  • @Nicklander
    @Nicklander Год назад +360

    It’s incredible how skilled you have become making Trackmania documentaries in such a short amount of time. I would go as far and say that you might even be the best documentary maker.

    • @badmanw
      @badmanw Год назад +5

      i am stunned as well

    • @agryzen7065
      @agryzen7065 Год назад +43

      Bro forgot about Wirtual

    • @GLUBSCHI
      @GLUBSCHI Год назад +19

      Welllllllll... let's say second best

    • @spimbles
      @spimbles Год назад +12

      aight calm down guy this is his 2nd docu, quit fishing for likes and validation

    • @melvinenguillermobruins6422
      @melvinenguillermobruins6422 Год назад +2

      @@badmanw same

  • @toxin2591
    @toxin2591 Год назад +34

    Awesome video, would be really cool to see more documentaries from you!

  • @zefil2864
    @zefil2864 Год назад +7

    Incredible documentary, great work put behind it, you can really tell thet youve got passion for both trackmania and youtube! Hope to see you make it far!

  • @Schmaniol
    @Schmaniol Год назад +15

    your storytelling is amazing, keep on doing these types of videos and you'll go very far my man

  • @-mv
    @-mv Год назад +7

    WOW! No wonder this quality seemed familiar. Only when you showed your previous video as a pop up at the end did I realize I've watched you before. Stellar quality, I'll subscribe for future content like this one. 👍

  • @TomasOlivaMusic
    @TomasOlivaMusic Год назад +7

    Loved the vid. Happy to see somebody taking over the TM documentary torch since Wirtual only rarely posts those these days :) Here's to your 1M subs in a year or two! :)

  • @kju-uu8me
    @kju-uu8me Год назад +3

    this video just randomly popped up in my side bar and I gotta say the first minute already reminded me of how I clicked on a wirtual video the first time, I think you can make it high up.

  • @jreynoldswrap
    @jreynoldswrap Год назад +6

    I never put more than an hour into trackmania, but over the past year I've watched many many hours of Wirtual playing it. Tried some other content creators in trackmania and wasn't interested. BettaTM is the first trackmania player to make youtube content I enjoy equally to Wirtual. Great video! I was interested and engaged watching it.

  • @eseilawimpershlaak
    @eseilawimpershlaak Год назад +4

    What a gem! Subbed immediately! Looking forward to see more! Very good storytelling and editing!

  • @LuckersTurbo
    @LuckersTurbo Год назад +9

    Really refreshing video, I enjoyed every single bit of it. Also, great storytelling keep it up!

  • @Senkey15
    @Senkey15 Год назад +12

    Great video and storytelling, would love to see more documentaries from you

  • @zoraa3406
    @zoraa3406 Год назад +2

    Interesting video! You managed to drag us into the story and kept the viewer entertained through out the enitre video!
    Enjoyed listening along and made me fully watch it to the end. Amazing work Betta!

  • @yuakka
    @yuakka Год назад +4

    damn bro your past two videos have been really high quality, keep it up

  • @Laiteux
    @Laiteux Год назад +6

    this was so well made, wow, please keep it up

  • @pepijnroth7566
    @pepijnroth7566 Год назад +2

    Betta, this is amazing and very much fun to watch, please keep doing it!

  • @braydonblyth5517
    @braydonblyth5517 Год назад +1

    Love the video man, just came from the cheese police video and really enjoyed this video too. Hoping you make more 🙏

  • @lildmckay
    @lildmckay Год назад +1

    This was fantastic! What a well-made video. The music choice and your delivery were perfect.

  • @par8678
    @par8678 Год назад +11

    We need more of this, what an incredible video

  • @xdCUPaCAT
    @xdCUPaCAT Год назад +2

    Incredible video, the pacing, excitement, it was interesting the whole way through... Keep it up!

  • @jjoorreenn
    @jjoorreenn Год назад +2

    This feels like watching the start of something more. Keep it up man!

  • @ladyravendale1
    @ladyravendale1 Год назад +1

    This video easily fits up there with Wirtal and Maximum’s videos! I can’t wait to see what you will make next!

  • @zac-oros
    @zac-oros Год назад +2

    Okay, here we go!!! Great content. Excited to see more from you

  • @SAMUSWAGGINS
    @SAMUSWAGGINS Год назад +1

    Holy shit dude, wirtual2 has been found but with MORE in-depth analysis and concrete examples! Happy this vid found its way to my front page, well deserved +1 sub :)

  • @Stiruz
    @Stiruz Год назад +2

    Amazing video! Keep it up, been longing for this type of content.

  • @Hieufin
    @Hieufin Год назад +2

    Bro. Day by day your videos are getting better, day by day i want to support you more

  • @car8070
    @car8070 Год назад

    excellent video! i hope you grow as a content creator, the production quality was absolutely amazing. enjoyed every second, props to you.

  • @exlpt2234
    @exlpt2234 Год назад +5

    Such a good watch! Very well done!

  • @Patittek
    @Patittek Год назад +4

    Your videos are getting better and better good job!

  • @parknich081
    @parknich081 Год назад +7

    bro is the next wirtual

  • @Ifinishedyoutube
    @Ifinishedyoutube Год назад +2

    Top of my RUclips front page and I thought you were wirtual. Good job!

  • @jickhertz4124
    @jickhertz4124 Год назад +1

    Gave me shivers... the fact it was personal made it so much more meaningful! Congrats mate!

  • @CubemasterXD
    @CubemasterXD Год назад +5

    the drop at 5:28 was insane
    you truely "get" how to make fascinating videos!

  • @Yerta_i
    @Yerta_i Год назад +1

    I thoghut u were wirtual.. LOL ur so good at storytelling! you has earned my sub! I'm looking foward to watch more viedos by you!

  • @gaellederrey8204
    @gaellederrey8204 Год назад

    Are you the new and improved Wirtual? Amazing vid! Congrats mate! I hope we'll see more of these!

  • @tkienjoyer
    @tkienjoyer Год назад +2

    "This came as a conplete shock, as no one in their right mind had though that four (frame perfect) inputs would ever be done by a human" gd players: hold my orange juice

  • @kristian5335
    @kristian5335 Год назад

    glad you mendtioned ILU , very nice video , ive been waiting to see that -150 run for quite a while :D

  • @pjw-
    @pjw- Год назад +2

    this video is so good I hope to see more of these in the future!

  • @PanNic97
    @PanNic97 Год назад +2

    Very nice video about something i never heard of even tho im quite involved in the trackmania community. Thank you for this video!

  • @Vacuna.
    @Vacuna. Год назад +3

    Really enjoy your videos. Hope to see more of them

  • @vedad1932
    @vedad1932 Год назад

    That video 100% deserves a sub. Thanks for taking the time to share!

  • @kevinfoley7667
    @kevinfoley7667 Год назад

    insane vibe with this video man. super high quality! easiest subscription ever

  • @badmanw
    @badmanw Год назад +1

    you've become my favorite tm youtuber because u have interesting topics and overall the editing and story is good🙂

  • @loupphok
    @loupphok Год назад +2

    Always a pleasure to watch your videos!

  • @Eddyithink
    @Eddyithink Год назад

    GG! Sick video!
    I eventually figured you were making a video out of it, hence not posting the clip yet hahaha

  • @grimreefer213
    @grimreefer213 Год назад

    Great video and awesome work finding these strats!

  • @VaelynTV
    @VaelynTV 9 месяцев назад

    I only play TM2020 and have never played TMNF, but I gotta say, your videos are very well put together and very enjoyable. Keep doing it!

  • @malcomb111
    @malcomb111 Год назад

    Amazing storytelling on the vid and congrats on the accomplishment!

  • @jasonknoll5170
    @jasonknoll5170 Год назад

    amazing video bro. Glad i discovered your channel!

  • @Spely
    @Spely Год назад

    Insane video, explanations are perfect and we can hear your passion for the game

  • @Dxtchi
    @Dxtchi Год назад

    cool to see my event featured in the video! awesome work as always

  • @sergevalet
    @sergevalet Год назад

    this is AWESOME! keep it up bro, great work

  • @Cara.314
    @Cara.314 Год назад +7

    i think it's worth mentioning how someone won Cup of the night using a low input strat, he'd found a perfect turn angle that could be held from the start that would result in a fast time on a track very hard to do consistently. track was called "deterministic deep dip." Would that be a zero input Strat?

    • @pjw-
      @pjw- Год назад

      what about a low input strat on that ice pinball map xdd

    • @natentequechuor738
      @natentequechuor738 Год назад +1

      Didn't they put some books against their controller to ensure the angle would be consistent ?

    • @thedoczekpl
      @thedoczekpl Год назад

      @@natentequechuor738 Can't say it's unlikely, but there are other methods of ensuring the input value is correct - there are plugins which display percentage of input value, and such accuracy is usually enough (for example on bobsleigh)

  • @matiaskekki2998
    @matiaskekki2998 Год назад

    Fantastic video! Glad to see more rising creators from the TM community.

  • @ggbirdymill1618
    @ggbirdymill1618 Год назад

    Very great video and some truly wise words. Thank you for sharing your achievements and thoughts!

  • @WazaYTB
    @WazaYTB Год назад +1

    I can't believe my eyes, you are an absolute legend dude. This game will never stop to amaze me!

  • @АлександрЯкунин-т5й
    @АлександрЯкунин-т5й 6 месяцев назад +1

    It's kinda insane that with low input strats keyboard became in some way better than analog devices and may become prefered input device for kacky.

  • @brim5954
    @brim5954 Год назад

    Amazing production :) keep it up !

  • @mohamadsalemamaraya224
    @mohamadsalemamaraya224 Год назад +3

    i dont understand how underrated you are

  • @nukewurld
    @nukewurld Год назад +2

    This channel going to the moon

  • @PugCuber
    @PugCuber Год назад +17

    he finally revealed it…
    I’m so proud of you Betta guy

    • @ramdoula506
      @ramdoula506 Год назад +1

      time to turn on them cheats heh ?!

    • @PugCuber
      @PugCuber Год назад +7

      @@ramdoula506 NONONONONONO
      NOT THE SINON INCIDENT AGAIN PLEASE

    • @ramdoula506
      @ramdoula506 Год назад

      @@PugCuber hehehe

  • @richtercl98
    @richtercl98 Год назад

    really enjoyed to hear the storys behind this kinda starts - didnt even know they existed before!

  • @Cacte
    @Cacte Год назад +1

    Really Great Documentary !

  • @MaxenceFrenette
    @MaxenceFrenette 4 месяца назад

    This is some Wirtual-level documentary video. Thank you so much, this was a great watch!

  •  9 месяцев назад +2

    Leaving this comment here for me to try to estimate the actual timings of the inputs at 23:03 later (although I don't find such achievement very plausible).
    60fps setting.
    Note: this comment is obsolete because they've already found the timings of the imputs.
    23:03, frame 44: start of race (0.00)
    23:07, frame 19: earliest spotted instance of the right key being pressed (3.566 to 3.583 [from start of second: 0.316 to 0.333], thus 3.57 or 3.58)
    Note: frames 17 to 18 had the same distance time-wise between them than to frames 18 & 19 (so 1.667), so I assume the right press was made likely at 3.58.
    Conclusion: likely, 3.58 right press.
    23:07, frame 35: earliest spotted instance of the right key being released (3.816 to 3.833 [from start of second: 0.566 to 0.583], thus 3.82 or 3.83).
    Note: frames 33 to 34 had the same distance time-wise between them than to frames 34 & 35 (so 1.667).
    Conclusion: likely, 3.83 right release.
    Airbreak (unfinished): estimated 23:09, frame 41 (5.933 to 5.950).

  • @ivanrezic
    @ivanrezic 7 месяцев назад

    Hey nice videos! What is the discord server where all these discussions and shares happen (e.g. igntul's discovery)?

  • @sawyerbaumann1939
    @sawyerbaumann1939 7 месяцев назад +1

    At 1:06 is where Simoo in one of your videos won the kacky 3 times I’m a FAN

  • @FalloutsTehevilone
    @FalloutsTehevilone Год назад

    Love this and the last video you put out! Hope to see more soon.

  • @j5stdave
    @j5stdave Год назад +1

    absolutely great video, keep it up man

  • @zthebluemoth6799
    @zthebluemoth6799 Год назад +1

    man that was a killer intro, got me hooked lol

  • @sihtam09
    @sihtam09 Год назад

    You should have more subs! Really great video!

  • @Wilker_uwu
    @Wilker_uwu Год назад

    this should also be an appreciation post on how much the devs thought out about future-proofing all sorts of verification and replicability into the game so long ago

  • @L4Bomb4
    @L4Bomb4 Год назад

    Amazing video, looking forward for more

  • @relyT
    @relyT Год назад +2

    if you keep making great content like this one will eventually go viral

  • @3k2p6
    @3k2p6 Год назад

    Can you share all kacky low input strats? Not interested in -150, just the discovers before. Imposible to find those on kacky discord. Thanks.

  • @zzzFaw
    @zzzFaw Год назад +1

    amazing vid once again please keep doing these

  • @MitchCollins15
    @MitchCollins15 Год назад

    This was really well put together

  • @xDNLable
    @xDNLable Год назад

    sick vid, keep up the good work!!

  • @SilentTM
    @SilentTM 7 месяцев назад

    Insanely cool discoveries and video!!! Genuinely curious, why do you pronouce it "yuber bug"?

  • @noehtm2432
    @noehtm2432 Год назад +1

    ofc u found input start on almost all my ilu map xdd ggs tho amazing video

  • @PretzelBS
    @PretzelBS Год назад +1

    I’d like to point out that the #1 demon in geometry dash, Acheron, has 63 frame perfects at 60fps and 8 frame perfects at 120fps. It’s been beaten by 5 people

    • @bennettmp
      @bennettmp Год назад

      I was thinking the same thing, gd players be crazy when it comes to frame perfects

    • @shadoww7301
      @shadoww7301 Месяц назад

      geometry dash runs at 60 inputs per second but trackmania is 100 inputs per second

  • @eyelight33
    @eyelight33 Год назад

    Amazing, enjoyable content! Keep it up.

  • @lucasnatal8067
    @lucasnatal8067 Год назад +1

    I love this trackmania stories! This videos make me try to be part of the game "history" somehow

  • @mmatierlist6549
    @mmatierlist6549 Год назад

    great video thank you, i would love to see more videos about trackmania nation forever maybe evan doucmntary on campain races like wirtual does i think you will be very good at that:)

  • @joaoshenteixeira1803
    @joaoshenteixeira1803 Год назад +1

    great job mate, keep it up!

  • @sawyerbaumann1939
    @sawyerbaumann1939 7 месяцев назад +1

    At 11:48 it Saïd Simo the greatest kacky player of all time because he won 3 kacky championships

  • @Arcsinx
    @Arcsinx Год назад +12

    This is what we need, more long format videos like this is so good for trackmania as a whole like W guy showed.

    • @richardli4038
      @richardli4038 Год назад +1

      W>L stopped bc the effort to profit ratio too high

    • @Arcsinx
      @Arcsinx Год назад +1

      @@richardli4038 W guy might make profit with the second channel but he still puts out good content when he wants (kinda), its more passion towards the game than anything. Also its not with gameplay videos that youll stand out so making it with TM must mean long form videos like this, except if you stream.

    • @thedoczekpl
      @thedoczekpl Год назад

      @@richardli4038 Wguy stopped because he forgot his password. He has already found it and seems to be back to releasing them monthly

    • @thedoczekpl
      @thedoczekpl Год назад

      @@Arcsinx The best proof of what you're saying is looking at subscribers of his documentary and gameplay channel - the first one has twice as many as the second.

  • @TechX1320
    @TechX1320 Год назад +2

    Sinon probably just used timed macros which a lot of keyboards and mice come with these days, or edited replay files. I use macro scripts in many games that have tedious tasks. Not so much an exploit but just tool assisted. I don't think sharing them is a big deal. Its just the same as sharing tips and tricks on any other track. Because one person did it, they're gate keeping what otherwise is completely safe to share

  • @nicholasspicer5171
    @nicholasspicer5171 Год назад

    that NickName guy is insane. great video!!

  • @spazghost
    @spazghost Год назад

    Excellent video. Pressing both keys at once with one finger is a really smart start for ubers

  • @Jammerocker
    @Jammerocker Год назад +1

    Summoning salt of TM can't change my mind

  • @TheOneWhoHasABadName
    @TheOneWhoHasABadName Год назад

    these “consistent” low input strats are really interesting. as someone who doesn’t play trackmania but plays celeste, where top players do arcane rituals to set up subpixel positioning to clear a room consistently for deathless challenges (or for less skilled players to cheese a room), the low input strats in trackmania feel a little bit similar
    of course, the strats found in trackmania often require hitting an input timing less than 1 celeste frame, which is a little bit harder lol