Clear and to the point - thanks! I have a compatible frame and fork, but not wheels. I upgraded my v-brake pads and cleaned the rims which added more than enough stopping power for very little cost, now they're better than some mechanical discs I've ridden!
I have this exact trek 3700 put a new fork on it and bought a 26 dollar special made adapter off of ebay running 180mm rotors for over a year no problem
Waiting on a 2000w hub motor/60v battery for my Specialized m4 DS MB..the new rear wheel is beveled I believe so no v brakes anymore if I want rear brakes get that same conversion you got.. good to know.
@@LJC5865 Is there a standard for e-bike compatible braking systems? You've got moped level power with cycle level brakes, plus all the extra weight for batteries.
People should actually clean the breaking surface on their bike rim's after every use. And regularly maintain the break-pads by removing metal fragments etc from them and finish with a bit of surface filing. And lastly, regularly check to see if the pads are evenly lined up and hit the rim at the same time. (should be two-ish mm from the rim) I think a lot of people just don't bother and instead fork out cash for discs when they too need maintenance.
I’ve had rim brakes that I’ve never done anything to for years and over 1,000 miles and my brakes worked great every time. They were high end brakes though.
NONSENSE: i run an older Trek 3700 full rigid. I run hydrolic disc front and rim brake in rear. The bike is fanatastic and i own 20 diff bikes in my collection. 70% of your stopping power on in the front brake anyway. Im 210lbs, never had stopping issue
Great video. 1:40 answered my doubts with a positive answer. been watching 20 + videos trying to find the answer and within seconds of clicking ur video i got my answer straight away. Earned a sub from me.
Thanks, I've been thinking of turning one of my kid's old BMX bikes into some kinda retro downhill klunker and adding disc brakes was a consideration. You've saved me a lot of time, money and maybe even my knuckles.
@Youre Favorite Cyclists , I just found your channel today . Happy New Year , I found your advice very helpful , because I was considering upgrading my vintage 2004 reflex easton e9 mtb from V brakes to disc brakes. After thinking about what you said about muddy and icy conditions for disc brakes, I realized I am better off staying with my V brakes , and only upgrading other parts like a longer handle bar , new crank set , and a drop seat , I think that would be all all I need to get back out in nature this spring . It's been years since I rode a MTB , because I got caught up working all the time, and the stress of life , I forgot to live , and enjoy the journey . I appreciate your content . 😎☝🏾 Thank you bro .
What happens when you realize it's cheaper to replace the disk rotor than a whole rim? The normal brakes wore a valley in my rim so now I need a new rim. I ordered a disk brake rim and am gonna figure out a mount so I don't need to replace my rim...
3 years on, you can buy better, even cheaper CNCed adapters now for $10 or $15 that work just fine on the rear. There were, however, at the time better adapters than the pressed steel version shown. The best reason to do so not covered here? If you're tight for money & need a new rear wheel/rim, & get a replacement disc brake wheel for free. The adaptors work OK if you pay attention to alignment, & use Loctite to keep them in place. They are also useful if you have an old cargo bike or tandem to use as a third brake, e.g. running a disc as a drag or secondary brake for steep declines. Replacing one either isn't as simple as "buy a new one" for sake of cost. Ditto if you have an alu alloy frame, as it's harder to find someone to weld proper mount on it in comparison to steel.
Appreciate the no-nonsense explanation and counsel of pros and cons. Extremely helpful and most likely saved me hundreds of dollars and a ton of curse words! 🙂
Ive gotta say, the brake levers for mech discs and V brakes are close enough to work. What wont is drop bar levers or older canti levers which are short pull. Long pull is reserved for v and mech discs. Also 5 bolt isnt common, its 6 bolt thats the most common out there.
Yeah actually you explain to me why I don't want to get disc brakes everyone else I've scene says disc brakes are the greatest but you're the first one that explained little bicycle that is not made for disc brakes is not setup for the stress of using disc brakes which I assume is why you don't recommend as a little doohickeys you can put on there so thank you
Thank you for the information I recently built a 80cc motorized bycicle and was thinking about disc brakes but I don’t think I will after seeing how much of a pain it is
@@YourFavoriteCyclist if needed the full sandwich clamp is the best one its double or more the thickness and the Skewer locks into it so its pretty safe besides maybe the IS part shifting in the same rotation of the brakes at least
A few good adapters out there. The cheapest steel ones are trash, agreed. So yeah, most of the time it's too much hassle and better to just pay a little more and get another bike but sometimes it's worth it, if you like to tinker.
My frame only has rim brake mounts, the forks and front wheel I've swapped from my trail mtb (upgraded) so it's now a rim brake 26rear , disc 27.5 front, I looked into this and it's not worth it if that dodgey mount breaks (which it will) so I'd say go for either budget ebay hydraulic rim brakes or the likes of magura hydraulic rim brakes or if you can't afford that then standard mechanic with good pads and setup bang on is good too
The non disk frame i have looks exactly like the one he has there in terms of mounting holes. Its obvious he has an adapter on it and then proceeds to say buy a better bike. Terry take on this IMO.
@@YourFavoriteCyclist there's a reason for that. If you have disk brakes which are specifically created for higher speeds in the front and regular rim brakes in the back. Be ready to fly over your handlebars 🕊️
I just converted my hybrid commuter to a 1000w ebike front hub and the front brakes literally wore out in 4 days (40 miles). Thinking of installing disc brakes but will first install higher grade brake pads.
I'm in a similar situation. And I've noticed that there's a relatively new disc brake adapter. That consists of an aluminum body, and a metal top plate that clamps on, which extends down to the axle going through the dropout. But it's only for the rear brake. While the most optimal option is to weld or braze the disc brake tab onto a steel frame. Good luck...
Well, some other videos have it figured out. Both the skinny forks can be reinforced with a half-tube and the rear triangle with a short brace. Those bolt on adapters are for losers (;'|) but you can make your own tabs, and fit them with zero tolerance pretty easy. Yes - it will take literally 30 seconds each to weld them. Just take them to a decent welder. He can probably do the whole job but you can save it by DIY the rest. Go to a steel supply and buy an angle grinder and a vice. YES, YOU CAN.
I got a OC chopper bicycle and needing info on a disk brake kit for the front rim i put a bicycle motor kit on it for my lil girl and needing any ideas
I have 2 mint Gary fisher Tassajara one is 2002 non disc but the other is disc ready rims frame and front Manatou suspension I guess that’s the one I’m doing but where do I get the rear brackets ?
Can I add front disc brakes to a Schwinn 700c Men's Connection Multi-Use Bike? It's got the 2 holes you were talking about but they are on the back side of the bottom of the forks and not the front. Thanks for your help!
👍 Yep those are the correct mounts, you're going to want something similar to these (amzn.to/3RdxEU0) You'll also need a disc brake compatible wheel with mounts for the disc rotor.
Useless video! "Frame isn't built to spec" - Based on what? Your word? "Don't recommend conversion bracket" - Why not? Have you even tried one? No evidence. Basically you just appear to be blowing hot air based on little or no actual knowledge, just your opinion, and not even an informed one.
If you have a Trek frame that had the mounts pictured, you would need a bracket like this one amzn.to/3IIvVjE. That bracket will bolt to where the holes are on the frame and allow you to use a post style disc brake caliper.
Swap out cantilevers. Go with vbrakes. Same mount. Also change brake levers. Different cable pull distance required to activate vbrakes (longer) cantilevers shorter.
Thank you. I have COVID and thought I was hallucinating. And he repeated 5 bolt at least 5 times. I modded my non disc frame to disc over 15 years ago. The kit came from across the pond can't remember the location. It required one additional hole and utilized a bar that connected to the left brake boss. Worked great. I have the frame in storage and will be putting it back in action soon. This video has a whole lotta fail. Viewer beware.
That was pretty common before disc brakes became common place. My Trek 3700 is the same way. The upgraded models using the same frame had a disc brake fork with disc brakes instead of rim brakes.
who are you to say what is worth our time, effort or money? no invention would have come to be with that no-vision attitude. A new cannondale or trek bicycle is very expensive, much cheaper to weld on or have a welding shop weld on the mounts and buy the brake parts. i just did it.
I dont care if the bike wasnt built for it, and i dont care if you would do it or not, i looked up "IF" i could do it and "How-to" do it. This is a disservice for those of us who have no regard to our wellbeing and safety and want it for the fun / cool factor..... Not a fan of videos telling me "No," i want to be shown how the best way possible regardless of the bike im starting with. TLDR: All i learned from this clip is that you're not my favorite cyclist...
What a USELESS video. What is it with hats and arm waving? If your frame has disc brakes BOSSES, then it's disc brake compatible. If it doesn't, then, this video will tell you nothing. Waste of time.
Dont upgrade if you dont have the holes? Why? You are just throwing your opinion in our faces but dont give us a reason why. So annoying, and who are you talking to? You are definately not talking to the viewer. Are you checking yourself out? Just a tip, to make your videos more professional looking, engage with your audience, look at the camera and stop checking youself out.
*Great bike for the price, **Latest.Bike** shifts well. Needed to fine tune gears and brakes.The big tires seem to mow over anything.*
You could at least send me a free bike to test before you spam my videos! 🤣
Clear and to the point - thanks! I have a compatible frame and fork, but not wheels. I upgraded my v-brake pads and cleaned the rims which added more than enough stopping power for very little cost, now they're better than some mechanical discs I've ridden!
I have this exact trek 3700 put a new fork on it and bought a 26 dollar special made adapter off of ebay running 180mm rotors for over a year no problem
Waiting on a 2000w hub motor/60v battery for my Specialized m4 DS MB..the new rear wheel is beveled I believe so no v brakes anymore if I want rear brakes get that same conversion you got.. good to know.
@@LJC5865 Is there a standard for e-bike compatible braking systems? You've got moped level power with cycle level brakes, plus all the extra weight for batteries.
Thanks for nothing JR
Thanks for watching!
People should actually clean the breaking surface on their bike rim's after every use.
And regularly maintain the break-pads by removing metal fragments etc from them and finish with a bit of surface filing.
And lastly, regularly check to see if the pads are evenly lined up and hit the rim at the same time. (should be two-ish mm from the rim)
I think a lot of people just don't bother and instead fork out cash for discs when they too need maintenance.
Yep seen this many times! Nothing wrong with a good set of properly adjusted rim brakes.
@@YourFavoriteCyclist I HATE adjusting my smooth post canti's
Absolute worst.
I’ve had rim brakes that I’ve never done anything to for years and over 1,000 miles and my brakes worked great every time. They were high end brakes though.
NONSENSE: i run an older Trek 3700 full rigid. I run hydrolic disc front and rim brake in rear. The bike is fanatastic and i own 20 diff bikes in my collection.
70% of your stopping power on in the front brake anyway. Im 210lbs, never had stopping issue
Great video. 1:40 answered my doubts with a positive answer. been watching 20 + videos trying to find the answer and within seconds of clicking ur video i got my answer straight away. Earned a sub from me.
Awesome! Glad it helped!
Thanks, I've been thinking of turning one of my kid's old BMX bikes into some kinda retro downhill klunker and adding disc brakes was a consideration. You've saved me a lot of time, money and maybe even my knuckles.
🤘
@Youre Favorite Cyclists , I just found your channel today . Happy New Year , I found your advice very helpful , because I was considering upgrading my vintage 2004 reflex easton e9 mtb from V brakes to disc brakes.
After thinking about what you said about muddy and icy conditions for disc brakes, I realized I am better off staying with my V brakes , and only upgrading other parts like a longer handle bar , new crank set , and a drop seat , I think that would be all all I need to get back out in nature this spring .
It's been years since I rode a MTB , because I got caught up working all the time, and the stress of life , I forgot to live , and enjoy the journey . I appreciate your content .
😎☝🏾 Thank you bro .
Disappointing conclusion after 1:55, but your good mood still made my day!
What happens when you realize it's cheaper to replace the disk rotor than a whole rim? The normal brakes wore a valley in my rim so now I need a new rim. I ordered a disk brake rim and am gonna figure out a mount so I don't need to replace my rim...
Exactly what i was looking for concise and to the point
Awesome!
Thanks for answering that question...had a hard time finding a straightforward answer until now...thanks!
Glad to help!
Thanks! Im a noob and wondered if i could do this to my bike but you answered my questions
Glad it helped! 🤘
3 years on, you can buy better, even cheaper CNCed adapters now for $10 or $15 that work just fine on the rear. There were, however, at the time better adapters than the pressed steel version shown. The best reason to do so not covered here? If you're tight for money & need a new rear wheel/rim, & get a replacement disc brake wheel for free. The adaptors work OK if you pay attention to alignment, & use Loctite to keep them in place. They are also useful if you have an old cargo bike or tandem to use as a third brake, e.g. running a disc as a drag or secondary brake for steep declines. Replacing one either isn't as simple as "buy a new one" for sake of cost. Ditto if you have an alu alloy frame, as it's harder to find someone to weld proper mount on it in comparison to steel.
Appreciate the no-nonsense explanation and counsel of pros and cons. Extremely helpful and most likely saved me hundreds of dollars and a ton of curse words! 🙂
Thanks, man. I was about to start spending unnecessary money (and probably frustration) on an old, non disc brake frame.
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Most commuter and MTB mechanical disc brakes have same pull and will work with vbrake levers, actually. Just road ones may be short pull.
THANK YOU FOR THIS INFORMATION. YOU MAY HAVE SAVED ME A LOT OF WAISTED TIME. THANKS!
so just buy a bike with disc brakes. easy.
Ive gotta say, the brake levers for mech discs and V brakes are close enough to work. What wont is drop bar levers or older canti levers which are short pull. Long pull is reserved for v and mech discs.
Also 5 bolt isnt common, its 6 bolt thats the most common out there.
Yeah actually you explain to me why I don't want to get disc brakes everyone else I've scene says disc brakes are the greatest but you're the first one that explained little bicycle that is not made for disc brakes is not setup for the stress of using disc brakes which I assume is why you don't recommend as a little doohickeys you can put on there so thank you
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Thank you for the information I recently built a 80cc motorized bycicle and was thinking about disc brakes but I don’t think I will after seeing how much of a pain it is
Theres a better version adapter that is out. The one you linked is the worst one which I wouldn't recommend either
I have seen a few different styles out there, still not something I would confidently ride on my own bike.
@@YourFavoriteCyclist if needed the full sandwich clamp is the best one its double or more the thickness and the Skewer locks into it so its pretty safe besides maybe the IS part shifting in the same rotation of the brakes at least
A few good adapters out there. The cheapest steel ones are trash, agreed. So yeah, most of the time it's too much hassle and better to just pay a little more and get another bike but sometimes it's worth it, if you like to tinker.
My frame only has rim brake mounts, the forks and front wheel I've swapped from my trail mtb (upgraded) so it's now a rim brake 26rear , disc 27.5 front, I looked into this and it's not worth it if that dodgey mount breaks (which it will) so I'd say go for either budget ebay hydraulic rim brakes or the likes of magura hydraulic rim brakes or if you can't afford that then standard mechanic with good pads and setup bang on is good too
So u just discourage ppl, im looking for a way to do it not if its worth it
The non disk frame i have looks exactly like the one he has there in terms of mounting holes. Its obvious he has an adapter on it and then proceeds to say buy a better bike. Terry take on this IMO.
I respect your honesty. I was thinking of converting a Schwinn stingray to discs but can't afford hydraulics. I may invest in some better v brakes
Thanks for the info, like & sub👍
No problem 👍
lowrider coffee cart with 72 spokes. Gotta have disc brakes. I'm trying to add the rotors to the wheels though.
Thank you! Great insight and advice.
Awesome!
What about living in a city full of hills like San Francisco or pittsburgh?
If you want to upgrade your brakes on a old brake, just replace the front fork and wheel. Rim brakes are fine on the rear
This used to be super common on entry level mountain bikes, but you don't see it much anymore.
@@YourFavoriteCyclist there's a reason for that. If you have disk brakes which are specifically created for higher speeds in the front and regular rim brakes in the back. Be ready to fly over your handlebars 🕊️
@@senecan100bullsht. I have full rigid 3700 frt disc/rr rim brake. Never had issue stabke stopping at Rays mtb Park or outdoor trails
I get it guys, I misspoke and said 5 bolt instead of 6 bolt for the disc brakes. It's supposed to be 6 bolt!
I just converted my hybrid commuter to a 1000w ebike front hub and the front brakes literally wore out in 4 days (40 miles). Thinking of installing disc brakes but will first install higher grade brake pads.
I'm in a similar situation. And I've noticed that there's a relatively new disc brake adapter. That consists of an aluminum body, and a metal top plate that clamps on, which extends down to the axle going through the dropout. But it's only for the rear brake.
While the most optimal option is to weld or braze the disc brake tab onto a steel frame. Good luck...
I would have sent you the link for the adapter. But RUclips has been deleting comments with links in them....
Great advice thanks.
Well, some other videos have it figured out. Both the skinny forks can be reinforced with a half-tube and the rear triangle with a short brace. Those bolt on adapters are for losers (;'|) but you can make your own tabs, and fit them with zero tolerance pretty easy. Yes - it will take literally 30 seconds each to weld them. Just take them to a decent welder. He can probably do the whole job but you can save it by DIY the rest. Go to a steel supply and buy an angle grinder and a vice. YES, YOU CAN.
Thanks for the video
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my bicycle is from the 70's and is a 20"
How old is an "ancient" bike? is a bike from 1997 considered ancient?
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Do you know where I could get the disc brake version of this bike?
They did make a disc brake version of the Trek 3700, I think it was just called the "Trek 3700 Disc"
is info usefull for ebike conversion?
I want to buy a vintage monark and convert it to an ebike with disc brakes. Im passionate too do so?? is there any hope?
I got a OC chopper bicycle and needing info on a disk brake kit for the front rim i put a bicycle motor kit on it for my lil girl and needing any ideas
1:02
What about old steel frames? Like, 1970s steel? I've heard mixed feedback on the success of welding mounts to old frames
I've heard there's better luck on older steel frames, but it's hard to guarantee it'd be good.
I have 2 mint Gary fisher Tassajara one is 2002 non disc but the other is disc ready rims frame and front Manatou suspension I guess that’s the one I’m doing but where do I get the rear brackets ?
Can I find wheels for tubeless tires for caliper? Brakes? I have a 90s mtn bike (98 gt palomar) I wanna put tubeless tires on. Is this dumb
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Beard dye! 😮MILKMANS SON 😅🤠💯🤟
Good info 👍.
Glad it helped!
How to know if my wheel is compatible ? I got trek 7.2 and the wheel are AT-750
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His solution: just buy a new bike with disc brakes give me a break.
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Can I add front disc brakes to a Schwinn 700c Men's Connection Multi-Use Bike? It's got the 2 holes you were talking about but they are on the back side of the bottom of the forks and not the front.
Thanks for your help!
👍 Yep those are the correct mounts, you're going to want something similar to these (amzn.to/3RdxEU0) You'll also need a disc brake compatible wheel with mounts for the disc rotor.
@@YourFavoriteCyclist or be very very handy with a welder?? /s
look at the lens not the screen, now it's like who are you talking too? :D seems weird
I Welded that on werks good
how old is old?
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Thanks mam 🤘🤘
No problem!
Look at the lens Dude :)
Isn't it SIX bolts over there? :)
Useless video!
"Frame isn't built to spec" - Based on what? Your word?
"Don't recommend conversion bracket" - Why not? Have you even tried one? No evidence.
Basically you just appear to be blowing hot air based on little or no actual knowledge, just your opinion, and not even an informed one.
Yes very useless 100%💩💩💩💩💩 this guy talks!!
Hey can you plz explain some more on how to put disk brakes on those mounts on 1:40
If you have a Trek frame that had the mounts pictured, you would need a bracket like this one amzn.to/3IIvVjE. That bracket will bolt to where the holes are on the frame and allow you to use a post style disc brake caliper.
@@YourFavoriteCyclist thanks for the reply
Cantilever brake suck though. I have had 2 bikes with them, never had good braking with them.
Swap out cantilevers. Go with vbrakes. Same mount. Also change brake levers. Different cable pull distance required to activate vbrakes (longer) cantilevers shorter.
Yes you can install disc brakes on ANY BIKE ....and its very easy
I think you meant 6 bolt?
Thank you. I have COVID and thought I was hallucinating. And he repeated 5 bolt at least 5 times. I modded my non disc frame to disc over 15 years ago. The kit came from across the pond can't remember the location. It required one additional hole and utilized a bar that connected to the left brake boss. Worked great. I have the frame in storage and will be putting it back in action soon. This video has a whole lotta fail. Viewer beware.
I hope you feel better soon! Lots of mods out there lol, I'm an old shop guy and seen most. Anyways up for questions and trips down memory lane.
Sweet deal con you tell my wife I need a new bike for me?
I got you!
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What do you recommend
I gave my opinion in the video.
@@YourFavoriteCyclist thanks for your email and your great comments safety tips on the best 👌 of all bike repairs
Always being responsible but it must be is one of the names of mentioned I don't know if she's doing a lot but somebody's hacking my phone
"you want to make sure you have two holes here"
> there's three hole
you're not my favorite anything.
The third hole is for a rack or fenders
👍🙂
Thank you!
Mechanior gawędziarz.
My bike only have holes at the back
Hmm
That was pretty common before disc brakes became common place. My Trek 3700 is the same way. The upgraded models using the same frame had a disc brake fork with disc brakes instead of rim brakes.
who are you to say what is worth our time, effort or money? no invention would have come to be with that no-vision attitude. A new cannondale or trek bicycle is very expensive, much cheaper to weld on or have a welding shop weld on the mounts and buy the brake parts. i just did it.
👏
I dont care if the bike wasnt built for it, and i dont care if you would do it or not, i looked up "IF" i could do it and "How-to" do it. This is a disservice for those of us who have no regard to our wellbeing and safety and want it for the fun / cool factor..... Not a fan of videos telling me "No," i want to be shown how the best way possible regardless of the bike im starting with.
TLDR: All i learned from this clip is that you're not my favorite cyclist...
all talking no action
Jesus you talk fast lol. I feel like you're trying and you should just be yourself
What a USELESS video. What is it with hats and arm waving? If your frame has disc brakes BOSSES, then it's disc brake compatible. If it doesn't, then, this video will tell you nothing. Waste of time.
Thanks for watching!
You are SOooo negative. Just because you can’t do it!
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Dont upgrade if you dont have the holes? Why? You are just throwing your opinion in our faces but dont give us a reason why. So annoying, and who are you talking to? You are definately not talking to the viewer. Are you checking yourself out? Just a tip, to make your videos more professional looking, engage with your audience, look at the camera and stop checking youself out.
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