Certainly a masterclass in golf course renovation, and now we get to see how it pays off. The amount of technology that is involved just blows my mind.
Congrats to Colonial on the restoration. The course looks great. Would be even been with an equipment rollback, which is so badly needed and the tour should support. This is one of the best videos I've seen from the tour. Well done.
Reminds me of my construction of the east course at Club de Golf Outaouais. Similar features with rectangular tee decks, shaping to catch basins for drainage, sodding of features, etc, etc.
For all the people complaining about holes moved away from water - do you know the Trinity River isn't where it was when the course was built? ruclips.net/video/juwu1ZRdExk/видео.html
All courses change over time due to minor design changes from the original, course maintenance (ie; topdressing), environmental conditions, growth and maturity.
lol no. They are assessed a large fee to pay for the course. There’s tension within every club that wants to renovate their course between members that want to invest for the future vs those that don’t feel the inconvenience is worth it.
@@9fingerflop but they pay an annual membership fee -- I can't see how they can get away with charging them for services that can't be used. Do you know if they do a 'majority vote' or is it a higher threshold like 70/30?
@@MoMoMyPup10 every club is different. It will be written into club bylaws and you join a club knowing that it’s a possibility. If it’s a members-owned club then yes they’ll have a vote. I don’t know what that threshold is for Colonial. And I do believe that Colonial is owned by the members. There are clubs not owned by members but maybe the members at least have a vote or they are consulted. Or the club owner can just tell the members to take it or leave it. This happens at many clubs. And once something like this passes, and they move forward with the renovation, you’ll often see many members give up their membership to avoid paying the assessment fee. But guess what, there’s a waiting list of potential new members that’ll sign right up and pay whatever to join the club. And to answer your other question, yes you still get charged your monthly dues while the course is shut down. Maybe they reduce those dues while the course is unusable but maybe not.
It was no longer the course it had been with ad hoc changes over the years. Hanse's specialty is getting courses back to their original playing values.
I wonder how many disgruntled comments are from members that were not in favor of the renovation. Hard to believe that the average PGA tour fan would care that much.
Why an excavator to compact and not something else? Let the ground breath more that way, not pack it as tight? Less money spent not having to get another machine?
yeah most of them look great or at least you can tell that with enough time to properly grow in they will look great...but yeah 16 looks like a local muni hole
imagine how much cooler it wouldve been if they spent this money UPgrading and ADDing features and fun to the course. They couldve added elevation by moving dirt, and planted trees, made greens crazy. but instead they brought it back from the dead?
Leave it to Hanse to F up a great design to "restore" a course to its original design several decades prior. Why restore something back to the 40's when the game has complete evolved. He ruined the 13th hole but pushing the green substantially away from the water, essentially taking the water out of play which many fell victim too in the past. Hanse, golf courses are supposed to be playing tougher these days with technology advancements and more vigorous practice routines by the players, not easier
@@Sndfnvf the year before, 2022 had at least 25 balls in the water. Last year the wind was down compared to normal. Ryan I'm a little kiss up Palmer, is so full of it
There are hundreds of courses that look just like what Colonial CC used to. It may be well kept, but it was your regular country club course. Round greens, straight runway fairways, round kidney shaped bunkers, etc… Not all country clubs have to follow suit, but for a course on tour, you probably should have something unique. The tour could have just went to another country club in a major metro and tell the viewers that it was colonial, and they would have believed it.
Looks like a vanity project of a club committee with delusions of grandeur. After all that work, which was incredible, in the flyovers at the end the old holes mostly looked better than the new ones. the good thing is the dummy's money probably helped a bunch of immigrant families.
@@StormLineberger Which is fine. Gladly take the minority position with this caveat: I have had the tremendous fortune to have played many of the finest courses in the States and overseas and to my eye (emphasis on my eye) Colonial looks very average and is held up by the legacy of great golfers from Texas.
I agree. It looks undefined and poorly framed on video. I think the correct reaction is that it is a trade-off between looks and sentimentality. So, why should we be all excited about a sentimental journey that many of the tour players didn't want anyway?
really so Hanse has taken several water hazards out of play and shallowed the bunkers? be ready for a -25 winning score. Thanks for ruining a great course Gil
They’ll be able to keep greens firmer which makes a much bigger difference on scoring than water hazards. PGA tour players avoid water hazards like the plague. The hazards actually a better effect when players are tempted to take them on. If you put a big lake in front of them they will just avoid it anyway. Idk. You can’t really say what will happen to scores until we see it in play.
@@9fingerflop Wait until a player ends up crosswise of one of those islands in the bunkers. They won't be complaining because it was too easy. Standard bunkers don't phase those guys much even if they are deep, but weird lies in bunkers give them cold sweats.
I don’t know who runs this RUclips page but they are terrible literally no mention of the PGA championship over the weekend no highlights like it never even happened and now they’re posting about a golf course renovation. No wonder this channel has barely any subscribers.
Certainly a masterclass in golf course renovation, and now we get to see how it pays off. The amount of technology that is involved just blows my mind.
Unbelievable reconstruction. Hard to believe they could do it in a short period of time.
It can be a task to demo and rebuild a yard in a year. The fact they were able to do this course is almost unbelievable....
Honestly one of the best videos I've seen from PGA tour. Great work and amazing job. I hope you do more stuff like this.
shoutout to the workers
Actually, it’s really disgusting seeing all the foreigners employed to do this.
Walking the course today for the round on Saturday, the course looked great! The greens were in great shape.
Congrats to Colonial on the restoration. The course looks great. Would be even been with an equipment rollback, which is so badly needed and the tour should support. This is one of the best videos I've seen from the tour. Well done.
My goodness....this is so satisfying to watch.
That 18th looks amazing, the tee shot looks so much better
Muy bien trabajo muchachos
Incredible production!
Looks amazing good work 🎉
Reminds me of my construction of the east course at Club de Golf Outaouais. Similar features with rectangular tee decks, shaping to catch basins for drainage, sodding of features, etc, etc.
Got it done shoutout to those who made a golf course out of that area
Come back to TPC Tampa Bay!! @PGA The course is starting to get back to what it used to be.
Can't wait to play it! I bet the old members of the course are going to be mad for this layout that looks pretty difficult.
Have they said what type of bermuda sod cultivar they used for fairways?
The technology is awesome and the grass looks great but honestly I think previous layout was better. Nice insight video anyways, thanks.
The whole thing is great but anyone else think old 18 looked way better?
For all the people complaining about holes moved away from water - do you know the Trinity River isn't where it was when the course was built?
ruclips.net/video/juwu1ZRdExk/видео.html
It looks great but i dont understand how redesign is keeping with the original designs. Can someone elaborate? Was the course changed over time?
All courses change over time due to minor design changes from the original, course maintenance (ie; topdressing), environmental conditions, growth and maturity.
PGA TOUR, HEAR ME OUT!!! YOU DONT NEED A PUKE GREEN FILTER OVER BROADCASTS OR FLYOVER VIDEOS. REAL LIFE GRASS AND TREES ARE PRETTY ENOUGH.
Iconic to generic... well done
So what happened to the members? Are they compensated when the course shut down?
Temporary members at a course nearby most likely
lol no. They are assessed a large fee to pay for the course. There’s tension within every club that wants to renovate their course between members that want to invest for the future vs those that don’t feel the inconvenience is worth it.
@@9fingerflop but they pay an annual membership fee -- I can't see how they can get away with charging them for services that can't be used. Do you know if they do a 'majority vote' or is it a higher threshold like 70/30?
@@MoMoMyPup10 every club is different. It will be written into club bylaws and you join a club knowing that it’s a possibility. If it’s a members-owned club then yes they’ll have a vote. I don’t know what that threshold is for Colonial. And I do believe that Colonial is owned by the members.
There are clubs not owned by members but maybe the members at least have a vote or they are consulted. Or the club owner can just tell the members to take it or leave it.
This happens at many clubs. And once something like this passes, and they move forward with the renovation, you’ll often see many members give up their membership to avoid paying the assessment fee. But guess what, there’s a waiting list of potential new members that’ll sign right up and pay whatever to join the club.
And to answer your other question, yes you still get charged your monthly dues while the course is shut down. Maybe they reduce those dues while the course is unusable but maybe not.
@@9fingerflop thank you
Colonial was a classic. Heaven help us all.
It was renovated back to 1941 design from US Open. Not redesigned. It is awesome.
hey cornball, you realize it was changed tremendously since it was built.
It’s obviously going to be a great improvement
It was no longer the course it had been with ad hoc changes over the years. Hanse's specialty is getting courses back to their original playing values.
so you didnt watch the video...got it
Maybe it’s because the stands were up? But the par 3’s looked better in 2023.
It looks 'different', I don't know that I would say 'better'
I wonder how many disgruntled comments are from members that were not in favor of the renovation. Hard to believe that the average PGA tour fan would care that much.
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IT GUY'S ? ALL THEM DOLLARS TO ! BUT WHAT DO I KNOW , 👍👊🏴
Why an excavator to compact and not something else?
Let the ground breath more that way, not pack it as tight? Less money spent not having to get another machine?
That 16 hole looks awful, completely barren look. Looks like a practice putting green. Yikes!!
yeah most of them look great or at least you can tell that with enough time to properly grow in they will look great...but yeah 16 looks like a local muni hole
If I was the owner..
I’d also be in equipment..more than bud to have my personal touch (classic owner 😅 jk).
Paying designer too, so why not?
ya'll need a youtuber to edit this. It's an intriguing story that could be told in 15 minutes and you'd have ten times the views.
imagine how much cooler it wouldve been if they spent this money UPgrading and ADDing features and fun to the course. They couldve added elevation by moving dirt, and planted trees, made greens crazy. but instead they brought it back from the dead?
Yikes, but overall decent
Needed an interpretor.
Thumbs down.
Leave it to Hanse to F up a great design to "restore" a course to its original design several decades prior. Why restore something back to the 40's when the game has complete evolved. He ruined the 13th hole but pushing the green substantially away from the water, essentially taking the water out of play which many fell victim too in the past. Hanse, golf courses are supposed to be playing tougher these days with technology advancements and more vigorous practice routines by the players, not easier
Never knew 6 golfers last year was “many”.
@@Sndfnvf the year before, 2022 had at least 25 balls in the water. Last year the wind was down compared to normal. Ryan I'm a little kiss up Palmer, is so full of it
There are hundreds of courses that look just like what Colonial CC used to. It may be well kept, but it was your regular country club course. Round greens, straight runway fairways, round kidney shaped bunkers, etc… Not all country clubs have to follow suit, but for a course on tour, you probably should have something unique. The tour could have just went to another country club in a major metro and tell the viewers that it was colonial, and they would have believed it.
They did all that and it looks the same
Looks like a vanity project of a club committee with delusions of grandeur.
After all that work, which was incredible, in the flyovers at the end the old holes mostly looked better than the new ones.
the good thing is the dummy's money probably helped a bunch of immigrant families.
Colonial looks like one highly manicured muni. Meh.
I think you’re in the minority on that one.
@@StormLineberger Which is fine. Gladly take the minority position with this caveat: I have had the tremendous fortune to have played many of the finest courses in the States and overseas and to my eye (emphasis on my eye) Colonial looks very average and is held up by the legacy of great golfers from Texas.
I agree. It looks undefined and poorly framed on video. I think the correct reaction is that it is a trade-off between looks and sentimentality. So, why should we be all excited about a sentimental journey that many of the tour players didn't want anyway?
really so Hanse has taken several water hazards out of play and shallowed the bunkers? be ready for a -25 winning score. Thanks for ruining a great course Gil
They’ll be able to keep greens firmer which makes a much bigger difference on scoring than water hazards. PGA tour players avoid water hazards like the plague. The hazards actually a better effect when players are tempted to take them on. If you put a big lake in front of them they will just avoid it anyway.
Idk. You can’t really say what will happen to scores until we see it in play.
Yep, Gil Hanse just ruins golf courses...that's what he does. Your golf knowledge is so unbelievable...
@@jdstan9650
Yeah, Southern Hills was sooooo awful.....NOT.
@@9fingerflop
Wait until a player ends up crosswise of one of those islands in the bunkers. They won't be complaining because it was too easy. Standard bunkers don't phase those guys much even if they are deep, but weird lies in bunkers give them cold sweats.
Zach Johnson said the reno was spectacular. Gil Hanse don't eff around
Looks horrible
I don’t know who runs this RUclips page but they are terrible literally no mention of the PGA championship over the weekend no highlights like it never even happened and now they’re posting about a golf course renovation. No wonder this channel has barely any subscribers.
it’s not a PGA tour event, it’s the PGA championship, they own the rights and will post accordingly.
Different companies brother.... PGA tour and PGA championship are different peoples.
PGA of America and PGA Tour are completely different entities. PGA Tour has no rights to anything that happened last weekend
It’s unfortunate that you look at it that way but I genuinely hope you shoot great forever⛳️🍻