got an old beater yamaha strat copy for free from a friend ages ago and i've been postponing knocking the paint off for far too long now - this vid has inspired me to get off my butt and start my first undertaking into a guitar overhaul project
Thanks for doing this. Your channel and a few others helped me decide this was the best fit for me but I am not a fan of the colors. This makes cleaning it up as a newbie look easy.
The difficulty with the toasty spots is you're not moving the gun. The gun should ALWAYS be in motion. The trick to that thick coat is to use the highest heat setting and sweep across the surface so that the surface, the paint itself, picks up heat but the heat doesn't radiate through to the wood.
Its basswood, if you get the right pieces it can come out lovely stained .. the bass kit I have on my channel that I did I stained & sanded back & it came out nice. You could walnut stain it with the burn marks on it & it would give it some charecter like aging.
Looks like a fun project. I have one in green and one in white. I’m hoping someone will put a body on eBay so I can snatch it up and repaint it. Thanks for the video! Looking forward to watching the series.
Sat here playing my own blue Squier Mustang just like that. Don't think I'll be chipping off the paintwork on mine any time soon but I'm fascinated to see what's underneath. Good video!
I did this to my mid 80s squier strat. It turned out that it had a three piece body of some kind of pinkish wood. I ended up staining it dark brown with a light butcher block wax protection. It's one of my favorites.
A cool thing to do that I did to mine is get a blowtorch for home depot or lowes and SLIGHTLY go over the entire body and it will raise the grain and a it looks cool and natural.
That veneer looks like mahogany but more likely 'luan'. It's used so none of the glue lines from the body strips 'read through' the paint. Sand, golden oak stain all over, dark burst with a dark brown edge, wipe-on poly. Or go very light stain and wipe on tru oil (which is poly based).
Kyle jackson I guess natural relic is really hard to do, you need many and many years of playing same guitar. I saw many guitars from like 1990s without any signs of relicing
I've been seriously considering doing this to my MIM strat ever since I took the back plate off and saw that the factory had screwed it on so tight that the finished cracked. I ended up being able to pull a little chunk of the finish off and it was at least a 1/4 of an inch thick. Figured if I took the finish off the guitar would easily drop a couple of pounds and I could refinish it with some of the rattle can nitro from stewmac.
Oh I'm sure. even with all of the finish, it sounds great though. It's literally layer after layer of white and black paint alternating resulting in a "vintage white"
Did this last year to an affinity strat... left it natural and oiled it. Looked sweet but never played very nice, tuning machines were crappy haha. You look like you found this way easier than I did in my high schools DT room with a budget heat gun and chisels hahaha
dsfadsfgafgf I did find it a bonus that it weighed marginally lighter. Couldn't have used filler as I wanted a natural finish and i am not skilled enough to apply a veneer haha
I always wanted to play the guitar but the beginning seemed so slow and frustrating. So I sanded it down and made a RUclips video. Now practicing is easy.
Seems like between 7 to 9, which is still in the dimension of what can be found in some slightly more expensive guitars, as well as what Fender used. Few years ago Bullets used to be from 5 to 7, but heard there were some up to 9 before that too
Of course it is really thin, lol. They get it from the same place Maaco does, clear and base all in one, quick hit and ship. To be expected at this price.
if it's a polyurethane finish, it takes literal weeks for it to fully cure and set. So it's possible the finish was still a bit soft when they assembled them.
Same as HoiPolloi. Love it. Play it almost everyday even though there are pricier guitars in the house. But if you start working on it, you’ll see the minor workmanship issues that make it a great guitar (as opposed to a great guitar for the money). Example: I don’t think the neck is ever coming off mine.
I have the surf green one. I just got it. So far it feels and sounds good. Was missing one screw from the pickguard though, haha not the most attentive quality check it seems.
Hey I enjoy your sharing how to deal with mods. However finding a nice piece of wood such as mahogany, or walnut and use this Mustang body as a blank to cut a better body out and just start from there ending up with a better mod. Just an idea.....
The indenting probably came from the wood being compressed by the hardware being cranked down, not the paint being soft. I think these are made of basswood, which dents fairly easily, especially compared to alder.
60 Cycle Hum did you actually enjoy the guitar (the model that is)? Im thinking about getting one but when i tried it out i found the single coils to be way too bright
I'm planning to mod mine. I will: Paint it Seafom Green; (I'll try to mix it with Sonic Blue to create an unic color, but if it looks bad, I'll stick to the Seafom Green), I will remake the varnish on the neck to make it look a little more like a normal guitar, that shit looks too white. I will also paint the headstock to match the body. Get rid of the cheap pickguard and put on a pearloid one; Put a single coil on the neck and a JB SH-4 on the bridge and use the old Mustang switches (It will look like a Kurt Cobain mustang configuration, white single and black Humbucker, I love that cause it looks weird) Maybe routing the body for a normal Mustang Vibrato with a Gotoh Bridge (still thinking about it) A better quality nut and replacing the tuners for Locking Tuners; 0.10 strings and that baby will sound raw
Basswood is really difficult to stain, it absolutely has to have a good sealer coat first, and even then it generally won't take typical household stains very well. Stains tend to come out really blotchy on basswood. However if you use a sealer and then thinned oil paints (artist paints) you can get really great stained effects out of it, but it really is an art. If you want to try to stain it anyway, seal it first, try whatever stain, and when (if? lol) is sucks go ahead and scuff it a bit then paint. Good quality basswood will have almost no grain, no knots, etc. That's actually pretty low grade basswood there, obviously fine for painting, but not so great (at all) for staining. You may want to consider a veneer, it could really look fantastic. However, and no offense, it would lets say challenge your current skills. Great practice and could always be sanded down.
Oh, it was just in case you wanted to try to stain it first. Some people can do amazing stuff staining basswood, not me though, every time its ugly blotches. I always end up painting over it. I'd like to think I'm getting better at staining it, even though the evidence doesn't bear that out.
Hello im am a newbie to ur channel as I've said before ...the wood is poplar i think ...ive seen a couple of people tach large blade wood burners an make toasted chevrons on the wood to give a fake figure ...i vould see the burn spots more than the grain it wood look good ithink natural an burnt maybe...like Joe perrys barncaster....i am a instrument refinisher an repaiman on the side an come from a large family 5 brothers all of us play music my middle brother had a walnut colored jag....i am a professional artist an i realy want to see some creativity please..i have built many guitars an my main axed are my own hand made guitars an they both have my artwork displayed on them. One is completely relief carved with roses an lilies ..the other is hand drawn birds from paint pens...
i honestly don't care, but i figured some people might want that information incase they plan on changing bridges or control plates that have different dimensions.
holey shit!.. they making them all out of scraps? i just picked one up for 40 bucks. the kid never played it. im making a Kurt Cobain tribute guitar out of it.
I used to hate black too, mostly because cheap Squier strats with white pickguards ruined that look, but I have a new appreciation for black on black with a maple neck. Seeing Bruce Foxton's black with maple P-Bass on the back cover of All Mod Cons got into my head and made me appreciate that look - because he's Bruce effing Foxton.
I like how you're tossing it around for free relic 👍
got an old beater yamaha strat copy for free from a friend ages ago and i've been postponing knocking the paint off for far too long now - this vid has inspired me to get off my butt and start my first undertaking into a guitar overhaul project
Thanks for doing this. Your channel and a few others helped me decide this was the best fit for me but I am not a fan of the colors. This makes cleaning it up as a newbie look easy.
The difficulty with the toasty spots is you're not moving the gun. The gun should ALWAYS be in motion. The trick to that thick coat is to use the highest heat setting and sweep across the surface so that the surface, the paint itself, picks up heat but the heat doesn't radiate through to the wood.
turns out there was veener on the back and it started bubbling up before the paint!
Yes to the video on refinish! Maybe a swirl or something unique!
Always thought the only thing letting this guitar down was that paint. Would look sweet in an Arctic White or a Lake Placid Blue
Its basswood, if you get the right pieces it can come out lovely stained .. the bass kit I have on my channel that I did I stained & sanded back & it came out nice. You could walnut stain it with the burn marks on it & it would give it some charecter like aging.
Looks like a fun project. I have one in green and one in white. I’m hoping someone will put a body on eBay so I can snatch it up and repaint it. Thanks for the video! Looking forward to watching the series.
Sat here playing my own blue Squier Mustang just like that. Don't think I'll be chipping off the paintwork on mine any time soon but I'm fascinated to see what's underneath. Good video!
Do u still like it? How's the wood on this thing is it cheap like u could snap it easily?
I think that you are doing a great job
I did this to my mid 80s squier strat. It turned out that it had a three piece body of some kind of pinkish wood. I ended up staining it dark brown with a light butcher block wax protection. It's one of my favorites.
I wanna put a vibrato or tremolo system in one but idk what I should do
A cool thing to do that I did to mine is get a blowtorch for home depot or lowes and SLIGHTLY go over the entire body and it will raise the grain and a it looks cool and natural.
That time when you're working on a guitar and your work bench has prettier grain than the guitar itself.
That veneer looks like mahogany but more likely 'luan'. It's used so none of the glue lines from the body strips 'read through' the paint. Sand, golden oak stain all over, dark burst with a dark brown edge, wipe-on poly. Or go very light stain and wipe on tru oil (which is poly based).
If one we're to get a custom pick gaurd made would single coils fit in that routed space? Super serious question
Tezza Music yes
@@60CycleHumcast thanks for the quick reply! Amazing work in your videos btw!
with the top natural and the side back painted, looks nice
Would it fit a Musicmaster/Duo sonic pickguard? I'm worried that the edge of the cavity will be exposed
I wonder if mine will start to naturally relic faster because of how thin it is wouldn’t mind that at all
Kyle jackson I guess natural relic is really hard to do, you need many and many years of playing same guitar. I saw many guitars from like 1990s without any signs of relicing
jma111000 nitro guitars worn fast
The body seems to be a 9-piece wood toast so it may need a dark varnish to cover the lines...
Where was the ground on this guitar ? Was it under the bridge... I didn't catch it . Have this same guitar but afraid to open it til I figure that out
Homemade matching headstock?!
I've been seriously considering doing this to my MIM strat ever since I took the back plate off and saw that the factory had screwed it on so tight that the finished cracked. I ended up being able to pull a little chunk of the finish off and it was at least a 1/4 of an inch thick. Figured if I took the finish off the guitar would easily drop a couple of pounds and I could refinish it with some of the rattle can nitro from stewmac.
Matthew Cook I would love to see the actual weight of the finish, I just don't believe it's as heavy as people think..
Oh I'm sure. even with all of the finish, it sounds great though. It's literally layer after layer of white and black paint alternating resulting in a "vintage white"
yea I'm not sure how much difference it would be, but the dang thing feels like a les paul when you pick it up.
Did this last year to an affinity strat... left it natural and oiled it. Looked sweet but never played very nice, tuning machines were crappy haha. You look like you found this way easier than I did in my high schools DT room with a budget heat gun and chisels hahaha
dsfadsfgafgf I get that now ahaha at least I had access to a planer to smooth it back off after I mashed it up a bit. Lol
dsfadsfgafgf I did find it a bonus that it weighed marginally lighter. Couldn't have used filler as I wanted a natural finish and i am not skilled enough to apply a veneer haha
I always wanted to play the guitar but the beginning seemed so slow and frustrating. So I sanded it down and made a RUclips video. Now practicing is easy.
How many pieces of wood we're used in making that guitar?
it looked like 3 to me, i didn't look super close though.
Seems like between 7 to 9, which is still in the dimension of what can be found in some slightly more expensive guitars, as well as what Fender used. Few years ago Bullets used to be from 5 to 7, but heard there were some up to 9 before that too
just stripped the back and it looks like 4
Of course it is really thin, lol. They get it from the same place Maaco does, clear and base all in one, quick hit and ship. To be expected at this price.
Forgive me if I missed it, but how many pieces is that? It looks like eight or more!
Looking forward to the end result
if it's a polyurethane finish, it takes literal weeks for it to fully cure and set. So it's possible the finish was still a bit soft when they assembled them.
Agathis? Or basswood?
Keep it going! I have a white mustang I was thinking of stripping and staining
The body is practically a chopping board
Huh! I was going to use an orbital sander on mine to strip it, but maybe the heat gun is worth a try....
I really want a bullet mustang but I want the surf green one.
James_ 42_Art get it! I have one and it’s great!
Same as HoiPolloi. Love it. Play it almost everyday even though there are pricier guitars in the house. But if you start working on it, you’ll see the minor workmanship issues that make it a great guitar (as opposed to a great guitar for the money).
Example: I don’t think the neck is ever coming off mine.
I have the surf green one. I just got it. So far it feels and sounds good. Was missing one screw from the pickguard though, haha not the most attentive quality check it seems.
It’s in stock!
I just ordered it!
I’ve noticed fender American telecasters have the paint indentations, I believe it is on purpose
Hey I enjoy your sharing how to deal with mods. However finding a nice piece of wood such as mahogany, or walnut and use this Mustang body as a blank to cut a better body out and just start from there ending up with a better mod. Just an idea.....
SiggyMe I like the way the stock body feels though
i would really like to see one just clear finished..maybe when i get my mustang!
I was waiting for this video for a while
The indenting probably came from the wood being compressed by the hardware being cranked down, not the paint being soft. I think these are made of basswood, which dents fairly easily, especially compared to alder.
Ten 2x4’s glued together
I am hoping you make this a string through body as part of the rework.
I dont have a drill press and i don't trust myself to do a clean job of it.
60 Cycle Hum I had the same issue with a Telecaster body but a local workshop did it for me when I asked nicely 👍😊
Gotta keep the heat gun moving
This is not a nasty comment.
I'm re-painting a guitar right now and having a horrible time. I hope to pick up some tips from you
uh, im always a sloppy mess when i paint guitars, I'd get tips somewhere else, lol.
ha ha at least you're honest about it
Did you ever get rid of the Duo Sonic?
yeah, i returned it.
60 Cycle Hum did you actually enjoy the guitar (the model that is)? Im thinking about getting one but when i tried it out i found the single coils to be way too bright
yeah i thought the guitar was great, if you don't like the pickups but like the playability i still think they are a great guitar for the money.
OMG. I thought this was an idle threat!
I'm planning to mod mine. I will:
Paint it Seafom Green; (I'll try to mix it with Sonic Blue to create an unic color, but if it looks bad, I'll stick to the Seafom Green), I will remake the varnish on the neck to make it look a little more like a normal guitar, that shit looks too white. I will also paint the headstock to match the body.
Get rid of the cheap pickguard and put on a pearloid one;
Put a single coil on the neck and a JB SH-4 on the bridge and use the old Mustang switches (It will look like a Kurt Cobain mustang configuration, white single and black Humbucker, I love that cause it looks weird)
Maybe routing the body for a normal Mustang Vibrato with a Gotoh Bridge (still thinking about it)
A better quality nut and replacing the tuners for Locking Tuners;
0.10 strings and that baby will sound raw
don't they just tell you about the body material in the spec?
Basswood is really difficult to stain, it absolutely has to have a good sealer coat first, and even then it generally won't take typical household stains very well. Stains tend to come out really blotchy on basswood. However if you use a sealer and then thinned oil paints (artist paints) you can get really great stained effects out of it, but it really is an art.
If you want to try to stain it anyway, seal it first, try whatever stain, and when (if? lol) is sucks go ahead and scuff it a bit then paint.
Good quality basswood will have almost no grain, no knots, etc. That's actually pretty low grade basswood there, obviously fine for painting, but not so great (at all) for staining.
You may want to consider a veneer, it could really look fantastic. However, and no offense, it would lets say challenge your current skills. Great practice and could always be sanded down.
Im not planning on staining it, i'm going to get creative with some paint. Good tips for people that might want to stain one of these though.
Oh, it was just in case you wanted to try to stain it first. Some people can do amazing stuff staining basswood, not me though, every time its ugly blotches. I always end up painting over it. I'd like to think I'm getting better at staining it, even though the evidence doesn't bear that out.
My God! Don't put this on RUclips! Imagine the Mustang's parents watching her strip!
ThunderWarp watching her get hacked down
If you put the speed at .25 during the time lapse you can hear that Ryan is actually listening to Lil Pump
Had to look up what that is, lol. i was just listening to the local alt rock radio station.
60 Cycle Hum just giving you grief, really looking forward to the finished product though! I think a matching headstock would be neat!
COMPETITION STRIPS!
if you say so ;-)
Hello im am a newbie to ur channel as I've said before ...the wood is poplar i think ...ive seen a couple of people tach large blade wood burners an make toasted chevrons on the wood to give a fake figure ...i vould see the burn spots more than the grain it wood look good ithink natural an burnt maybe...like Joe perrys barncaster....i am a instrument refinisher an repaiman on the side an come from a large family 5 brothers all of us play music my middle brother had a walnut colored jag....i am a professional artist an i realy want to see some creativity please..i have built many guitars an my main axed are my own hand made guitars an they both have my artwork displayed on them. One is completely relief carved with roses an lilies ..the other is hand drawn birds from paint pens...
i wouldve left it as it was.
it would have been cheaper and faster to buy a body at a site like guitar fetish, I imagine they will have some like this.
Aircraft paint remover at AutoZone
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Nasty comment.
I won't judge the dents in the finish, under the pickguard too harshly. After all, some 5yr old kid in China needs that manufacturing job. 😉
i honestly don't care, but i figured some people might want that information incase they plan on changing bridges or control plates that have different dimensions.
Good point. It might be a bit noticeable in that situation. Either way, for the price, it's a cool guitar.
If it is noticeable, you could always drop fill with superglue, strip sand, then buff; or refinish as you're doing.
Nasty Comments...hope this helps!
holey shit!.. they making them all out of scraps? i just picked one up for 40 bucks. the kid never played it. im making a Kurt Cobain tribute guitar out of it.
LOL *STRIPES
Your voice sounds so different in the video at the beginning. Wtf is going on?
change the pups
Metallic blue looks better.
Not convinced this guy has a clue what he's doing
I'm very much a hobbyst when it comes to guitar refinishing. this is not a tutorial, more of a diary.
please don't do painted designs they never look good
Thank god, that color sucks.
thats how i feel, when i bought it the only other option was black, which i also hate.
I used to hate black too, mostly because cheap Squier strats with white pickguards ruined that look, but I have a new appreciation for black on black with a maple neck. Seeing Bruce Foxton's black with maple P-Bass on the back cover of All Mod Cons got into my head and made me appreciate that look - because he's Bruce effing Foxton.