Stay safe! Hope those who've lost all to the fires get help to get back on their feet. Thanks for all your good videos. They have been a great help for a noob like me 😊👍
Awesome Motor! I had the X2212-III 1400kV on one of my AR Wings before until I replaced it with a more powerful AirB but the X2212 will go on my long range rig and replace the A2212 to get a bit more power if needed.
That prop is on backwards Andrew. A small point (this is a way to reduce thrust used in Sorting out Pylon racers in the past) Sunnysky's are my motor of choice - never had a magnet let go and the bearings seem really good quality.
Nice, Andrew. Very nice. But... I'm an old-school aeromodeller who's only recently bought in to the LiPo/electric flight scene. Slightly. In a small way. I work on sub-250g DIY-designed projects; I have four LiPos and an Accucell charger and three tiny, random, cheapo motors and a few budget BEC-type ESCs; I refuse to get any more involved because I'm basically skint, ignorant, lazy and stupid. I understand how to configure rubber-powered free-flight models, though. I know how to carve huge custom props from balsa. I understand burbling PAW diesel engines and ether blends and compression ratios; I understand glow plugs and two-strokes and four-strokes and fuel additives and synthetic oils and multi-blade prop-matching and chicken fingers and tuned pipes and how to build expansion chamber silencers and get a reliable slow idle on a twin-needle carburettor. I don't understand modern electric flight, though. Nope. Not deep down. Not really. It's just never grabbed my attention. Back in the early 1980s I built an electric-powered glider (well, it was more 'assisted'...). Simple brushed motor, no such thing as an ESC, it had a clumsy bang-bang on-off mechanical microswitch and useless, ludicrously heavy Ni-Cad batteries. Clean and quiet, yes, but overweight and thoroughly impractical. "But electric flight's cool, now, Elli! Dump your messy old Saitos and get involved!" Um... no thanks. I regard electric flight in the same way I regarded CDs when they first appeared. "But CDs are the future, Elli! CDs are cool! Dump your messy old record collection and go digital!" Erm... no thanks. I avoided CDs because I hoped something 'better' might come along. And it did. A couple of years later: MP3 encoding. Infinitely portable. Yay. Oh, I know the quality's lousy (I'm a musician of sorts) and sampling rates and bit depths are a techno-minefield, but there are lossless formats now and flash-memory and USB sticks have multi-gigabyte capacity... So I'm glad I kept my vinyl records. (And transferred them all to hard drives at enormously high sample/bit rates so I could listen to them without wearing out the originals.) Anyhooo, despite all of this fine Channel's joyful and inspiring successes and tempting electro-blandishments, I'm finding it pretty easy to resist spending a shedload of dosh on electric flight. I still haven't got a clue about matching brushless motors to LiPos or airframes or current drain or ESC-rating or kv classification, though. My little girlie brain goes all auburn-bimbo-blank at the thought of it; it's just trial and error and guesswork for me. I tend to buy a teeny-weeny super cheap motor (for £3 or so) and muck about with it. I toy and flirt coquettishly with 2S LiPos and 30A ESCs that cost no more than the motors. It's sort-of fun, but am I a bad person? [Yes you are, you tramp.] Am I especially worthless and evil for not taking electric flight more seriously? [Yes. Get thee to a nunnery.] Whatever. I'm keeping my involvement small because I've no intention of getting caught up in the new drone registration nonsense. I'm not into quad-copters or FPV. Drone registration? Who he? I do action-camera KAP and KAV because I love making and flying kites and because making moody videos from a gigantic kite won't get me arrested and fined £1,000. I fear that the RC hobby faces a right good kicking, so I'm steering clear of total electric flight immersion. I've no doubt that the sub-250g RC rule will vanish once the CAA realises that modern micro-gear is letting far too many cheeky fun fliers enjoy themselves by slipping under their cash-cow 250g radar and that ALL radio modellers must be tightly regulated and taxed for their heinous crimes, so I'm not spending a penny more than necessary on electric flight. Ironically, I now do all of my real RC flying indoors on an RC simulator. (Phoenix.) Is that virtual reality or real virtuality? Whichever it is, it appeals to my sense of the absurd. And there are no kv calculations, weight limits, £1,000 fines, or LiPo fires to worry about. ;-)
Love your short stories Elli. I'm quite prepared to turn my back on RC powered flight if it all gets too nasty. Slope soaring, kite flying and scuba will keep me busy.
Yesterday the lighting outside here was like looking through yellow cellophane, I'm guessing that was from the smoke from over there. Last time I saw that was in Tokyo when winds brought dust storm/pollution from China.
Thanks for all your videos Mr. Newton, I have the sunnysky 2216 1250kv v2 motor and trying to find out is the propeller shaft on the 2216 1250kv v3 the same diameter? On the v2 its 5mm, I'm not having any luck on sunnysky website or emails. Also what's your thoughts on this v3 and a 9050 propeller on the ar wing pro? Thanks again
Thanks for all your videos , just recieved my sunnysky motor the black version 1250kv, do you use wood screws going into bulkhead? Mine came with only the machine screws
Hi, I've been using a sunnyky 2220 iii.980 (blue motor) on 2.9 meter glider 1100 grams with a 11x7 folding prop for year now with no problems. To me it seems like vertical flying but I'm not flying competition, it takes about 5 to 6 seconds to get 100 meters i dont know if thats good or not. But for that price it's good for me.
Andrew, a dynam c-188 question. when I begin engaging the throttle the motor seems very fast I was thinking I could adjust my throttle curve between 0 and 25% marks. Or should I adjust the timing in the esc? Thanks Bret
@@AndrewNewton Copy, The Skylord esc instructions I have, state there's a menu you can go into with 6 manageable categories (brake, battery type, cut off type, cut off voltage, start mode, timing mode) that you can adjust using the throttle stick. Regarding your pulse problem I believe it's the timing mode or maybe start mode. The 6th category is timing mode. There's low, middle and high setting for timing. Instructions say that default is middle. Motion rc had a video up of Pilot Ryan adjusting for his pulse problem. However the video is now removed.
If you go to the SunnySky website, they tell you what size planes and type that are appropriate for a particular motor. You can also look into what motors manufacturers put into their planes that you are interested in and use that as a starting point. RCGroups.com has everything you need.
I had wondered that in recent videos was no word or sign of the fires that cover the news over here in Germany on a regular or daily base, particular how the australian governments reacts or better not so much reacts. Australia is more rarely part of the news here ... so much media attention now. Hope they get them exstinguished soon ...
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So sorry to hear of all the misfortune from the fires. Glad to see your safe and sound.
Thanks, scary times and so early in summer
Stay safe! Hope those who've lost all to the fires get help to get back on their feet.
Thanks for all your good videos. They have been a great help for a noob like me 😊👍
Thanks bodukes, more fires to come unfortunately
I was afraid so... 😐 You really make the news here in Denmark, these days...
Yours Simon
(Bokudes - 'it's me', in Japanese)
I've been using these for a few months now and I really like them. The performance is well worth the extra cost.
Thanks for another great review.
Good to get your views thanks
Sunnysky are great motors and only hearing good things about these new blue ones, really hope the bush fires get under control sooner than later
Thanks Julian, fires have eased a bit now but more bad weather on the way.
Totally agree. Great motors.
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非常に参考になります。
Many thanks
Awesome Motor! I had the X2212-III 1400kV on one of my AR Wings before until I replaced it with a more powerful AirB but the X2212 will go on my long range rig and replace the A2212 to get a bit more power if needed.
Nice one Marc. This is the first blue motor I have tried
Great quality motors, love that super light MT...I must get mine built for next season...
My hatch popped open and started acting like an elevator, a little too exciting!
Stay safe buddy. Thanks for the video.
Nice test flight and cruising around on as few amps as that at only 1/3 throttle makes for some very good flight times ;-) See you in the Air!
Interesting that the specs said 40A but I measured 45A max. Maybe I misread it.
That prop is on backwards Andrew. A small point (this is a way to reduce thrust used in Sorting out Pylon racers in the past) Sunnysky's are my motor of choice - never had a magnet let go and the bearings seem really good quality.
Prop on backwards? No it would be noisier and way less efficient if that was true
Thanks Andrew for another informative vid. I might consider one for a Ranger upgrade :)
Good choice!
Very nice young man
Nice, Andrew. Very nice. But... I'm an old-school aeromodeller who's only recently bought in to the LiPo/electric flight scene. Slightly. In a small way. I work on sub-250g DIY-designed projects; I have four LiPos and an Accucell charger and three tiny, random, cheapo motors and a few budget BEC-type ESCs; I refuse to get any more involved because I'm basically skint, ignorant, lazy and stupid.
I understand how to configure rubber-powered free-flight models, though. I know how to carve huge custom props from balsa. I understand burbling PAW diesel engines and ether blends and compression ratios; I understand glow plugs and two-strokes and four-strokes and fuel additives and synthetic oils and multi-blade prop-matching and chicken fingers and tuned pipes and how to build expansion chamber silencers and get a reliable slow idle on a twin-needle carburettor.
I don't understand modern electric flight, though. Nope. Not deep down. Not really. It's just never grabbed my attention. Back in the early 1980s I built an electric-powered glider (well, it was more 'assisted'...). Simple brushed motor, no such thing as an ESC, it had a clumsy bang-bang on-off mechanical microswitch and useless, ludicrously heavy Ni-Cad batteries. Clean and quiet, yes, but overweight and thoroughly impractical.
"But electric flight's cool, now, Elli! Dump your messy old Saitos and get involved!" Um... no thanks. I regard electric flight in the same way I regarded CDs when they first appeared.
"But CDs are the future, Elli! CDs are cool! Dump your messy old record collection and go digital!" Erm... no thanks.
I avoided CDs because I hoped something 'better' might come along. And it did. A couple of years later: MP3 encoding. Infinitely portable. Yay. Oh, I know the quality's lousy (I'm a musician of sorts) and sampling rates and bit depths are a techno-minefield, but there are lossless formats now and flash-memory and USB sticks have multi-gigabyte capacity... So I'm glad I kept my vinyl records. (And transferred them all to hard drives at enormously high sample/bit rates so I could listen to them without wearing out the originals.)
Anyhooo, despite all of this fine Channel's joyful and inspiring successes and tempting electro-blandishments, I'm finding it pretty easy to resist spending a shedload of dosh on electric flight.
I still haven't got a clue about matching brushless motors to LiPos or airframes or current drain or ESC-rating or kv classification, though. My little girlie brain goes all auburn-bimbo-blank at the thought of it; it's just trial and error and guesswork for me.
I tend to buy a teeny-weeny super cheap motor (for £3 or so) and muck about with it. I toy and flirt coquettishly with 2S LiPos and 30A ESCs that cost no more than the motors. It's sort-of fun, but am I a bad person? [Yes you are, you tramp.] Am I especially worthless and evil for not taking electric flight more seriously? [Yes. Get thee to a nunnery.] Whatever. I'm keeping my involvement small because I've no intention of getting caught up in the new drone registration nonsense. I'm not into quad-copters or FPV.
Drone registration? Who he? I do action-camera KAP and KAV because I love making and flying kites and because making moody videos from a gigantic kite won't get me arrested and fined £1,000.
I fear that the RC hobby faces a right good kicking, so I'm steering clear of total electric flight immersion.
I've no doubt that the sub-250g RC rule will vanish once the CAA realises that modern micro-gear is letting far too many cheeky fun fliers enjoy themselves by slipping under their cash-cow 250g radar and that ALL radio modellers must be tightly regulated and taxed for their heinous crimes, so I'm not spending a penny more than necessary on electric flight.
Ironically, I now do all of my real RC flying indoors on an RC simulator. (Phoenix.) Is that virtual reality or real virtuality? Whichever it is, it appeals to my sense of the absurd. And there are no kv calculations, weight limits, £1,000 fines, or LiPo fires to worry about. ;-)
Love your short stories Elli. I'm quite prepared to turn my back on RC powered flight if it all gets too nasty. Slope soaring, kite flying and scuba will keep me busy.
Yesterday the lighting outside here was like looking through yellow cellophane, I'm guessing that was from the smoke from over there. Last time I saw that was in Tokyo when winds brought dust storm/pollution from China.
Yes nasty stuff, heading straight out over to NZ. We are blanketed with smoke here too.
Thanks for all your videos Mr. Newton, I have the sunnysky 2216 1250kv v2 motor and trying to find out is the propeller shaft on the 2216 1250kv v3 the same diameter? On the v2 its 5mm, I'm not having any luck on sunnysky website or emails. Also what's your thoughts on this v3 and a 9050 propeller on the ar wing pro? Thanks again
Yes it's 5mm. I have tried 8060 so 9050 should work well
Thanks I'll give it a try
Thanks for all your videos , just recieved my sunnysky motor the black version 1250kv, do you use wood screws going into bulkhead? Mine came with only the machine screws
Yes, screws into plywood motor mount
Good motor review mate and You finally got yourself a half decent screwdriver!!
Was that a Chrissy present?
Had it for years, should use it more
Hi, I've been using a sunnyky 2220 iii.980 (blue motor) on 2.9 meter glider 1100 grams with a 11x7 folding prop for year now with no problems. To me it seems like vertical flying but I'm not flying competition, it takes about 5 to 6 seconds to get 100 meters i dont know if thats good or not. But for that price it's good for me.
That's great performance.
Andrew, a dynam c-188 question. when I begin engaging the throttle the motor seems very fast I was thinking I could adjust my throttle curve between 0 and 25% marks.
Or should I adjust the timing in the esc?
Thanks Bret
Calibrate the ESC with your radio? These Dynam ESCs are a bit quirky, mine pulses on low throttle.
@@AndrewNewton Copy, The Skylord esc instructions I have, state there's a menu you can go into with 6 manageable categories (brake, battery type, cut off type, cut off voltage, start mode, timing mode) that you can adjust using the throttle stick.
Regarding your pulse problem I believe it's the timing mode or maybe start mode. The 6th category is timing mode. There's low, middle and high setting for timing. Instructions say that default is middle. Motion rc had a video up of Pilot Ryan adjusting for his pulse problem. However the video is now removed.
What prop were you using on this test flight? Would the 800 KV version of this motor provide even better low amp cruise?
Yes probably would be more efficient, although I have not tried 80kV
Andrew, did you test the thrust at full throttle with this setup (2216 1250, 8x6, 4s)?
I never measure thrust but it would be interesting to do. About 45A max current draw.
What’s the shaft’s diameter? Is it interchangeable with after market shafts? Or is it like mini quads’ shafts?
5.08mm, click on the link for detailed specs
I had entered sunnysky’s website searching for this information but could not find.
Thank you.
Would this motor be good for a c1 chaser?
Definitely. Perfect choice
@@AndrewNewton thank you sir!
Can you point me to a resource that correlates motor size to airplane size? And Happy New Year!
If you go to the SunnySky website, they tell you what size planes and type that are appropriate for a particular motor.
You can also look into what motors manufacturers put into their planes that you are interested in and use that as a starting point.
RCGroups.com has everything you need.
@@toolbaggers Thanks
A rough rule of thumb I have seen is 100W / lb which converts to 220W/kg
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5:04 For those like me who came for the flight :)
You're welcome.
I have 1030 videos if you feel like doing some more indexing. Thanks anyway
I had wondered that in recent videos was no word or sign of the fires that cover the news over here in Germany on a regular or daily base, particular how the australian governments reacts or better not so much reacts.
Australia is more rarely part of the news here ... so much media attention now.
Hope they get them exstinguished soon ...
Thanks mate. A few days reprieve then more heat coming
Please send me an email address i need to talk to you about setting up a fpv for the AR wing like yours, thank you, Cheers, Mark, usa thx!
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ai hope my message to faint you ok . big ecologikal dizaster with the fire .sorry for my pour engleis
Thanks for thinking of us mate. I am 300km from the fires but it is very smoky here.