Ski-Doo Ambassador Dave Norona takes a look at the 2023 Ski-Doo 10.25 inch gauge. Questions below please and if you can like and subscribe. Cheers dave
It’s good that Ski Doo took a step forward but this gauge doesn’t hit the mark in terms of navigation, the main reason to have a big screen. Requiring wireless cellular service and connection to a phone doesn’t work. Most of the places I ride don’t have cell service. I’m hopeful future versions will match the capabilities of the Polaris 7S screen which is a superior offering. I opted for the standard gauge on my spring order from Ski Doo.
Completely agree. Originally ordered the large gauge until I realized how useless it was for us mountain riders. I quickly phone the dealer back and changed to smaller gauge. Good thing Skidoo hit the rest out of the ball park because this was a bigger disappointment then receiving socks for Xmas!
@@gregchapdelaine4889 Agreed. Literally the only feature I would want is navigation/buddy tracking like the Polaris. l replace my sled every year lately so there's always next year!
I can’t wait to get mine. I like the way ski doo had the screen laying down. The Polaris screen sticks up too high in my opinion. They better get their butts in gear and finish the BRP GO! app. All I ask is that it’s better then the S7.
not going to happen right away with polaris working and owning part of the company, but this is a strat as we always say, I am excited about where it goes
@@DaveNorona Shame im sure each company would save a load on manufacturing etc and with supply chains being what they are could be a sensible move. im pretty sure there wouldn't be any complaints from customers I would be interested to know how many skidoo riders want the Polaris s7 dash
Ski-Doo seems to consistently find a way to check the box on features without truly understanding why they were desired. I was happy enough with the Gen 5 changes and the new turbo to order one, but Polaris is doing an awful lot of things better. This gauge is just one of many examples. This gauge is a joke for the price, and I definitely didn't order it.
That gauge is bordering on rediculous features that are not needed and totally missed the mark on Skidoo’s end. I don’t think guys are looking for a desktop computer. It looks like a nice lunch table for all the boys tho LOL
@@DaveNorona I am sure there are lots of people who think it’s cool. But Dave, you’re out there enjoying the mountains riding a snowmobile! What more fun than that!? Guys are not checking their Facebook status. That’s what they do sitting at home watching your videos wishing they were in the mountains. In my opinion, all we really want is mapping/navigation on a nice looking LCD screen and doesn’t need to be 10.25”, it just takes up way too much space and looks like a dinning room table. I’d bet you could save 5 lbs there.
@@mitchbeauchamp3397 like anything, you have a choice, I love the gauge for the size, it would just be plastics there as well. Actually one of the best things you can carry now for safety on maps is an ipad, using an app ;ike gaia it will follow you all day and you can breadcrumb and place important way points using your cell phone gps without cell service. The reason is any gps unit screen is too small to see details and when you go in for details you lose big picture, big screens allow you to do both very well so screen size does matter.
Swing and a miss. The whole point of an updated gauge was to compete with Polaris. No GPS without a cell phone plugged into it. And no buddy tracking unless all riders have active cell service data. 🙄
@@teachdougie8139 you made me doubt so i re read Polaris ride command most recent specs and you are right.... here is the text : A vehicle-to-vehicle antenna (V2V) works anywhere, with no phone required. It requires an installed V2V antenna, which is standard on model year 2021 and newer snowmobiles with a 7S display. It has a range of more than one mile between vehicles.
starting point, there are actually many advantages to have it all on the phone, as it can be updated through wifi instantly where as a built in must go back to dealer to do that....with it on your phone it grows as new features do, built in it does not. Remember this is a starting point
@@DaveNorona I don’t see the “update with phone” feature as mutually exclusive with other features that can (or should) be operable without the phone. I expect any digital device these days to be upgradable via WiFi but I think a mountain sled’s gauge shouldn’t require a phone to perform basic functions like navigation with to me is the main reason to have a big gauge. I’m looking forward to seeing an actual detailed demo of the gauge and it’s kind mysterious why BRP didn’t put one out when they released the 2023s.
I have this gauge on order. I totally see the potential! I currently use my phone as my main GPS nav already. Has there been any talk amongst the design team about uploading .KML files (google tracks) to the BRP Go app?
Dave, The placement of the gauge is such that it looks like it would be begging to break during a rollover or a slide for life down a mountainside. Also, as an older rider who isn’t quite so caught up in the ‘tech’ frenzy this looks like it could be a source of distracted driving when eyes should always be on what’s ahead of us.
That's ok I feel the same way not needed in my opinion on where I ride and how I ride but that's why ski doo just offers it as a option they are not stock on all their sled.
Dave, When is the next update coming? I used it this past weekend, and the navigation is disappointing. It cannot load any waypoints without service, even with downloaded maps. You can’t even save a waypoint from the screen and label it. Canceling a ride is delayed and constantly crashes. Never mind, when it tries to work, it says unable to create a route. There is No top speed or high RPMs logged. Viewing friends maybe worked for 30 seconds. Make sure you have a Garmin handy, so you don’t get lost in the woods!
Is Skidoo currently developing a GPS antenna for an upcoming update? Skidoo should pay attention to the innovative G8 Snowmobile Gauge, a brilliant collaboration with Garmin. I must admit that I'm very dissatisfied with the current gauge. Still, I'm sincerely hopeful that I can make the most of this $1200 investment for its intended purpose: GPS and friend tracking in remote wilderness areas without cell service.
I am glad all these things are optional, if they were standard it would just drive up the cost for features i have no use for. i dont care to listen to music, or have infinitely adjustable heated grips/thumb, adjustable brake levers, the only thing outside of basic gauges i would like is mapping and being able to follow my friends on my map as well without cell service. meh. i do like the lunch table idea lol. i always eat and drink on the trail /in the mountains instead of going someplace.
There are more than one way to skin a cat, and although the 7s has some great features, don't count on what is coming, the guage for the doo will be uploadable, rather than you having to bring the whole machine in to upgrade it.
Dave we know you get paid to push BRP product, but let's be real here for a second. In what way does this guage out perform the Polaris 7S? -Ease of use, nope -Rider Tracking without apps, nope -Avalanche Safety, nope -cost, nope People want a guage that is simple, doesn't involve phones, apps etc. The 7S is the ticket. I've owned 2017, 2019, 2021 (PIDD Guage) and 2022. Never once have I had an issue with them or had to get an update.
@@DaveNorona dont mater still a sled whit a ipad and do you have to wait for a update to go for a ride? cuz people like me dont have good wifi that would take forever lol
nope, was an option and those who wanted it, jumped, limited this year so they can all be available to those who wanted them and just showing those who are excited about them
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It’s good that Ski Doo took a step forward but this gauge doesn’t hit the mark in terms of navigation, the main reason to have a big screen. Requiring wireless cellular service and connection to a phone doesn’t work. Most of the places I ride don’t have cell service. I’m hopeful future versions will match the capabilities of the Polaris 7S screen which is a superior offering. I opted for the standard gauge on my spring order from Ski Doo.
Completely agree. Originally ordered the large gauge until I realized how useless it was for us mountain riders. I quickly phone the dealer back and changed to smaller gauge. Good thing Skidoo hit the rest out of the ball park because this was a bigger disappointment then receiving socks for Xmas!
@@marknewman8609 I think if the cost was much lower I may have been tempted but for $1,200 it was not even a consideration for me.
@@gregchapdelaine4889 Agreed. Literally the only feature I would want is navigation/buddy tracking like the Polaris. l replace my sled every year lately so there's always next year!
What. Only a Garmin or something with satellite will work in bush or mtns. That would be next level if that thing had satellite gps.
@@fishsticks5175 Thats how the polaris works.
I can’t wait to get mine. I like the way ski doo had the screen laying down. The Polaris screen sticks up too high in my opinion. They better get their butts in gear and finish the BRP GO! app. All I ask is that it’s better then the S7.
It would be nice if skidoo and Polaris worked together on a gauge I have to agree skidoo totally missed with this one
not going to happen right away with polaris working and owning part of the company, but this is a strat as we always say, I am excited about where it goes
@@DaveNorona Shame im sure each company would save a load on manufacturing etc and with supply chains being what they are could be a sensible move. im pretty sure there wouldn't be any complaints from customers I would be interested to know how many skidoo riders want the Polaris s7 dash
@@DaveNorona hey Dave. When you say Polaris owns part of the company what are you referring to exactly?
Skidoo missed the benchmark with this display. I'm a huge Skidoo guy, but the 7S display on the Polaris is much better.
Ski-Doo seems to consistently find a way to check the box on features without truly understanding why they were desired. I was happy enough with the Gen 5 changes and the new turbo to order one, but Polaris is doing an awful lot of things better. This gauge is just one of many examples. This gauge is a joke for the price, and I definitely didn't order it.
That gauge is bordering on rediculous features that are not needed and totally missed the mark on Skidoo’s end. I don’t think guys are looking for a desktop computer. It looks like a nice lunch table for all the boys tho LOL
but sold out, so there is that...
@@DaveNorona I am sure there are lots of people who think it’s cool. But Dave, you’re out there enjoying the mountains riding a snowmobile! What more fun than that!? Guys are not checking their Facebook status. That’s what they do sitting at home watching your videos wishing they were in the mountains. In my opinion, all we really want is mapping/navigation on a nice looking LCD screen and doesn’t need to be 10.25”, it just takes up way too much space and looks like a dinning room table. I’d bet you could save 5 lbs there.
@@mitchbeauchamp3397 like anything, you have a choice, I love the gauge for the size, it would just be plastics there as well. Actually one of the best things you can carry now for safety on maps is an ipad, using an app ;ike gaia it will follow you all day and you can breadcrumb and place important way points using your cell phone gps without cell service. The reason is any gps unit screen is too small to see details and when you go in for details you lose big picture, big screens allow you to do both very well so screen size does matter.
Still not enough info on the mapping system!
As long as I can check my text messages
Swing and a miss. The whole point of an updated gauge was to compete with Polaris. No GPS without a cell phone plugged into it. And no buddy tracking unless all riders have active cell service data. 🙄
Polaris 7s also need active cell service for buddy tracking. Unless you are ok with Bluetooth 50ish feet range.
@@hm800x Are you sure about that? I thought they used a radio frequency…
@@teachdougie8139 you made me doubt so i re read Polaris ride command most recent specs and you are right.... here is the text :
A vehicle-to-vehicle antenna (V2V) works anywhere, with no phone required. It requires an installed V2V antenna, which is standard on model year 2021 and newer snowmobiles with a 7S display. It has a range of more than one mile between vehicles.
starting point, there are actually many advantages to have it all on the phone, as it can be updated through wifi instantly where as a built in must go back to dealer to do that....with it on your phone it grows as new features do, built in it does not. Remember this is a starting point
@@DaveNorona I don’t see the “update with phone” feature as mutually exclusive with other features that can (or should) be operable without the phone. I expect any digital device these days to be upgradable via WiFi but I think a mountain sled’s gauge shouldn’t require a phone to perform basic functions like navigation with to me is the main reason to have a big gauge. I’m looking forward to seeing an actual detailed demo of the gauge and it’s kind mysterious why BRP didn’t put one out when they released the 2023s.
No more toggle switch for heated grips? How does the screen work when it’s wet and with gloves on?
still has toggle but you cant change the more hand over thumb with toggle
I have this gauge on order. I totally see the potential! I currently use my phone as my main GPS nav already. Has there been any talk amongst the design team about uploading .KML files (google tracks) to the BRP Go app?
we will see more what it can do as it evovles
The hot grips should strictly dedicated to the switch gear. Constantly needs changing.
How do you get to the top speed readout
Dave, The placement of the gauge is such that it looks like it would be begging to break during a rollover or a slide for life down a mountainside. Also, as an older rider who isn’t quite so caught up in the ‘tech’ frenzy this looks like it could be a source of distracted driving when eyes should always be on what’s ahead of us.
That's ok I feel the same way not needed in my opinion on where I ride and how I ride but that's why ski doo just offers it as a option they are not stock on all their sled.
2000km on one of our sleds, no issues so far, its not a concern for me
How much more does the big gauge with the battery weigh than the standard gauge?
5lbs
Mapping works when starting the sled in a no cell phone zone?
its on your phone so its loaded then when you plug it in it does through phone gps
@@DaveNorona Could you show a video? Maybe a video on the hill without service too?
@@marknewman8609 don't have a video but download gaia or ski tracks follows you all day without service, simple and easy and free
Dave, When is the next update coming? I used it this past weekend, and the navigation is disappointing. It cannot load any waypoints without service, even with downloaded maps. You can’t even save a waypoint from the screen and label it. Canceling a ride is delayed and constantly crashes. Never mind, when it tries to work, it says unable to create a route. There is No top speed or high RPMs logged. Viewing friends maybe worked for 30 seconds. Make sure you have a Garmin handy, so you don’t get lost in the woods!
thanks for feedback, updates are always in the works but when released is out when they are out. cheers dave
@@DaveNorona It does not work PERIOD! its just a display
Is Skidoo currently developing a GPS antenna for an upcoming update? Skidoo should pay attention to the innovative G8 Snowmobile Gauge, a brilliant collaboration with Garmin. I must admit that I'm very dissatisfied with the current gauge. Still, I'm sincerely hopeful that I can make the most of this $1200 investment for its intended purpose: GPS and friend tracking in remote wilderness areas without cell service.
The only way to actually get info from the screen is to basically sit on the fuel cap.
You can sit on your gas cap if you want but the seat is way more comfortable and the seat should only be used during lunch time!
I am glad all these things are optional, if they were standard it would just drive up the cost for features i have no use for. i dont care to listen to music, or have infinitely adjustable heated grips/thumb, adjustable brake levers, the only thing outside of basic gauges i would like is mapping and being able to follow my friends on my map as well without cell service. meh. i do like the lunch table idea lol. i always eat and drink on the trail /in the mountains instead of going someplace.
Is that a store that sells sleds
nope a place you can come enjoy and ride them and stay and eat, Carl Kuster Mountain Camp
What did I win
i’m
guessing a roll over and that looks
like it could shatter that screen
could but has not been a issue, well protected actually
Hard too hype the unattainable unavailable 😪 maybe in 2024.
Skidoo is still way behind polaris in the gage department 7s is the only way to go
There are more than one way to skin a cat, and although the 7s has some great features, don't count on what is coming, the guage for the doo will be uploadable, rather than you having to bring the whole machine in to upgrade it.
Dave we know you get paid to push BRP product, but let's be real here for a second. In what way does this guage out perform the Polaris 7S?
-Ease of use, nope
-Rider Tracking without apps, nope
-Avalanche Safety, nope
-cost, nope
People want a guage that is simple, doesn't involve phones, apps etc. The 7S is the ticket.
I've owned 2017, 2019, 2021 (PIDD Guage) and 2022. Never once have I had an issue with them or had to get an update.
a snowmobile whit wifi wth
It does not have wifi it has blue tooth and your phone has all the info and you plug into the gauge
@@DaveNorona dont mater still a sled whit a ipad and do you have to wait for a update to go for a ride? cuz people like me dont have good wifi that would take forever lol
Not sure if it was you camera lens or angle but that dash looks terrible.
could be a lot of things, maybe the beer
I saved $1000 on my expert turbo order by not getting this. I just don't see the value. It looks fine but not worth $1000.
and now your not insulted, enjoy your sled
The guage looks dumb how flat the whole area is looks like a table top doesn't fit the design of the rest of the sled
disagree completely
Looks awful with those intakes like that.
At this point your just rubbing in 80% of our faces that won’t get the big screen that cost more then the newest smart phone
nope, was an option and those who wanted it, jumped, limited this year so they can all be available to those who wanted them and just showing those who are excited about them
and newest smart phone is 2000.00 now