Question: For husbands and wives who are seeking the Lord, but having trouble with entrenched sin, am I understanding this teaching correctly to say that husbands have the responsibility to lead their wives and have hard conversations about sin as needed, and wives can bring up the issue of sin, but only maybe once or twice, so as not to nag their husbands? What would be the recourse for the wife, other than prayer, for sin they see in their husbands over a long period of time?
A distinction should be made here, between struggling to quit a sin, and refusing to call an act a sin. If the husband refuses to see the problem while talking to his wife (maybe they are too worked up talking to each other), they should go together to leadership in the Church and ask for help in understanding and finding solution. Believers are called to submit to local leadership in things like this. If he refuses to do that, now you aren't just dealing with a sin issue, you're dealing with a heart-towards-self issue. If he is struggling, and isn't succeeding on his own, he needs to do the difficult thing in getting help from other men who have gotten through the problem. Men don't need to 'talk about it' with women when they have sin problems (I am not dismissing healthy dialogue with the wife, but pushing against man-bashing counselors who are often women in the church). They need other men who will stand strong with them and address sin and hold them accountable, and celebrate successes and give practical tactics. They also need to know that their problem isn't going to be the hot topic at the next women's meet. Or become the talk of the Church gossip vine. It requires a mature believing Church. We don't need to hide sin out of shame, but we need not revel in the failures of our brothers and sisters. I've seen this nastiness hold back so many men who really needed their brothers to come alongside and help them. Of course, this requires a Church that actually knows how to graciously address sin issues by Scripture. That's the best I got from Scripture and experience. I hope it helps.
I’m gonna be honest this kinda missed the mark. He spend how long berating women and then when it came to the men was more sympathetic and less harsh. I don’t necessarily disagree with what he was trying to say more how he said it.
I agree and would add his wording almost leans into things that aren't biblical like his comments about a bad sex life that it's up to the man to fix which almost implies forcing the women when it's in fact, husband and wife's owe each other their bodies and men and women are told independently such, not that we tell the other we are owed it but that the Bible tells us we owe it to them. Or for instance his example of his wife trying to do something without him is actually a double edged comment because as the husband he should have made time for it and since he didn't his wife tried to do it.
@@manarazor4782 if a husband is a Godly man and follows this Pastors advice his relationship will flourish as designed. I fail to see the issue here. Honestly this speaker doesn't even seem over powering at all. Y'all trippin 🤙
@@Hankhaze22 sorry I'll re word. Don't blindly trust what a person in a powerful position says. Allow discourse and correction to be had or we may fall victim to simply someone being wrong about certain things or explaining good things in a way that leads to harm
Hot topics like this is what needs to be discussed. I recently started listening to your channel and I thoroughly enjoy it. Thank you.
Awesome sermon Ryan needed that one! 👌
Thank you Ryan Frederick, Grace City Rome, and Pastor John Lovell.
Good teaching :) !
Feminism has completely devastated opportunities in and out of church.
1:45 The institution of marriage has become a social construct in a fallen world.
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Question: For husbands and wives who are seeking the Lord, but having trouble with entrenched sin, am I understanding this teaching correctly to say that husbands have the responsibility to lead their wives and have hard conversations about sin as needed, and wives can bring up the issue of sin, but only maybe once or twice, so as not to nag their husbands? What would be the recourse for the wife, other than prayer, for sin they see in their husbands over a long period of time?
A distinction should be made here, between struggling to quit a sin, and refusing to call an act a sin.
If the husband refuses to see the problem while talking to his wife (maybe they are too worked up talking to each other), they should go together to leadership in the Church and ask for help in understanding and finding solution. Believers are called to submit to local leadership in things like this.
If he refuses to do that, now you aren't just dealing with a sin issue, you're dealing with a heart-towards-self issue.
If he is struggling, and isn't succeeding on his own, he needs to do the difficult thing in getting help from other men who have gotten through the problem. Men don't need to 'talk about it' with women when they have sin problems (I am not dismissing healthy dialogue with the wife, but pushing against man-bashing counselors who are often women in the church). They need other men who will stand strong with them and address sin and hold them accountable, and celebrate successes and give practical tactics.
They also need to know that their problem isn't going to be the hot topic at the next women's meet. Or become the talk of the Church gossip vine. It requires a mature believing Church. We don't need to hide sin out of shame, but we need not revel in the failures of our brothers and sisters. I've seen this nastiness hold back so many men who really needed their brothers to come alongside and help them.
Of course, this requires a Church that actually knows how to graciously address sin issues by Scripture.
That's the best I got from Scripture and experience.
I hope it helps.
I was married.
Even Christian women are triggered by teaching on submission.
I’m gonna be honest this kinda missed the mark. He spend how long berating women and then when it came to the men was more sympathetic and less harsh. I don’t necessarily disagree with what he was trying to say more how he said it.
I agree and would add his wording almost leans into things that aren't biblical like his comments about a bad sex life that it's up to the man to fix which almost implies forcing the women when it's in fact, husband and wife's owe each other their bodies and men and women are told independently such, not that we tell the other we are owed it but that the Bible tells us we owe it to them. Or for instance his example of his wife trying to do something without him is actually a double edged comment because as the husband he should have made time for it and since he didn't his wife tried to do it.
Twas pretty harsh and honest toward men. Maybe listen again with an open heart.
@@Hankhaze22 harsh doesn't mean true, don't be deceived by powerful men, they are not always right
@@manarazor4782 if a husband is a Godly man and follows this Pastors advice his relationship will flourish as designed. I fail to see the issue here. Honestly this speaker doesn't even seem over powering at all. Y'all trippin 🤙
@@Hankhaze22 sorry I'll re word. Don't blindly trust what a person in a powerful position says. Allow discourse and correction to be had or we may fall victim to simply someone being wrong about certain things or explaining good things in a way that leads to harm