They would change a bail hearing into a motion to dismiss, with no briefing or even findings whatsoever? Seems like the easiest appeal in the world to me.
How true. I saw a defense attorney get his client convicted & jailed when there were no eyewitnesses. He had the guy testify and he put himself there & committing the crime. If he stayed of the stand he would have walked!!
The quality of the writing 😂 This is hot garbage!! Rayland doesn't put up with ANYONE'S BS..that's just not his character. Everyone including his daughter talk down to him...not my Rayland Givens
@@Willym_Atl In court you'll put up with every ounce of BS flung your way because the judge has a whole bag of "in contempt" ready to go. Also, who is "Rayland"?
I was getting extradited from Utah to Los Angeles one fine day, or two. Late 1980's. Being escorted by a couple of very jaded, well-armed, vice cops out of Hollywood. Who were hella hungover from excessive partying the night before we caught our flight. Following a LONG drive the day before with their badges clipped to the front side windows of the rental car they drove 100+ mph thru Utah, everywhere we went. Lots of side trips and adventures along the way... Odd, they are allowed by law/procedure to carry their loaded firearms on the commercial flight.
If there's one thing that I remember from the series... Raylan doesn't do well on the stand. Short spurts, sure. Keep him talking and it's like digging a hole with the cement pouring in. Defense probably contends that Raylan violated her client's rights, which EHHH. He kinda sorta did under the circumstances.
She'd call him anything to make her point in front of the judge. She's a lawyer. Her job is to paint the opposition in as bad a light as she reasonably can.
If this is a sample of Detroit Justice in the courtroom, I see the big problem with Detroit. The lawyer is trying to make it about race. The Judge throws out the FL charges, REALLY.
You’re leaving out the tidbit that he threw out the charges several mins later after Raylan’s daughter was laughing at cat videos in his court & Raylan himself made a quip about being surprised that attempts on his life aren’t made more often. Judge was more pissed off at Raylan than moved by a race argument. If Raylan doesn’t be Raylan (which we all love him for being) & his bratty, unruly daughter doesn’t disrupt the proceedings then the black guy gets the book thrown at him
From the trailer, I thought the angry black lawyer trying to defend a criminal, who pulled a gun on a federal agent and threatened to assault his daughter, by using the race card would be a parody on social justice. Like, "you can't charge my client, he's black, and to do so would be racist". Then I found out she's a meant to be a recurring main character who 100% believes she's doing the right thing and the only one trying to do it. As excited as I was for Justified to get a sequel, I had an inkling they'd mess it up or "modernize" it.
Let's see how they (the writers) are able to resolve her stance w/ that of Raylan's. It's a relevant commentary that pertains to the real world, and it would be on track w/ plenty of Raylan's previous arcs, i.e., how his beliefs and decided actions are at conflict with others' expectations of how he should execute his duties as a marshal.
@@randyqquaint8400 I hope so, cus the "we have to vilify the white cop in his own show because 'wah copaganda'" is just so shallow. I get the drama between Raylan and the law in the original show was "Raylan, you can't keep goading criminals into pulling a gun on you show you can justify shooting them." But this is just lame.
@@cytorakdemon I certainly get that, but remember that Raylan historically has made himself an easy target and, in some situations, target of investigation (i.e., his fingerprint on the "next one's coming a lot faster" bullet leading to him being murder suspect) due to his personal anger or frustration that caused him to become more hostile and threatening towards his foes. Let's also be honest, we know (and love) that Raylan threatens to put people in the trunk all live long day, but if it were to happen to a black man on an overly hot day, drawing attention towards the race card would indeed be a likely eventuality of his defense.
@@cytorakdemon Overall, I don't think the show is going to go full on "racist cop" or anything, it's just going to be another hurdle that Raylan needs to find a way of adapting to.
I loved justified, so far this is ehhh... Pretty good. But I gotta say, not trying to be mean but it's pretty funny, after Ray's daughter said just 3-4 lines I was like wtf?? How did this girl get casted?? Terrible acting so I looked her up.... Oh 😬 lol
I found her quite adequate for the role of an annoying teenager. She also has some range when guilting Raylan for being a lackluster dad. She did a pretty good job
@@ComedyBros5 So you haven’t watched the episode, probably haven’t read the book (that was written in 1980, btw) either where the judge behaved the same way, but you can 100% ascertain that this is social commentary. Ok.
Love Justified, but the legal plotholes in this series is at best a joke. If you've ever been in a court room or dealt with lawyers on a large scale you'd know this was pure garbage.
@Hibernicus1968 not true. Judges are almost always FORMER lawyers. But some judges are appointed, elected or nominated. There is not a national uniform rule for who can be a judge.
@@josephkramer932 I've been a police officer for 23 years, and a detective for 16. I've been testifying in courtrooms almost every single week for going on a quarter of a century, and I have yet to meet a judge who wasn't a lawyer. I've seen good judges and bad ones, but they all had law degrees, and experience as trial lawyers.
So a shady defense attorney using the race card to get her client off and an openly corrupt judge blaming racism (something he did in the book in 1980) is race baiting now?
@@bjchit You should probably read your sentences over before you press enter. And you forgot the following scene about how it “takes an angry white man to catch an angry white man.”
@@warrenamis4332 Nothing wrong with what I said. Ah yes, the detective teasing Raylan once, the most angry man Wynona had ever met, is race baiting. They never mentioned race ever in Justified, not ever (spoiler alert: they did, several times).
10 minutes into this show and it was already heavy handed with the woke race nonsense. Hopefully the SJW BS hasn’t claimed another great character! I LOVED this show. Raylan was a complete badass that got along with all races in the original series. They want you to feel bad for a convicted felon car jacker that threatened his daughter. The old Raylan would have smoked them both. Im gonna give this show a chance but don’t have high hopes that Raylan survived wokeness.
Have you read the book that Justified: Primal City is based on? If you have read it then you should realize this isn’t a “woke” show but a story about a serial killer and his killing tendencies.
STOP USING THE WORD”WOKE”, “WOKEN”, “WOKENESS”. IT IS GETTING SO OLD THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO MAKE A POINT FOR WHY A TV SHOW ACTUALLY MAKE PEOPLE USE THEIR BRAIN
I love when racist think they're saying something by using the word woke. You're better off jumping up and down in the street screaming that you're asleep and ignorant. Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination". Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as sexism.
@@katinasearfoss9617 You mean getting old like calling everyone who doesn’t agree with you a racist, fascist, or nazi ? That’s been old for a long time now and completely sterilizes names that use to be reserved for truly awful people but now hold no meaning. Yeah it’s really frustrating when people overuse terms.
@@bjchit You have been programmed to react that way and revert back to a slavery response. You won't listen to reason. But the carnage of black on black violence, the abandonment of families by black men and the utter lack of focus on getting an education is the real scourge of community failures among certain minorities. But not Asians . Care to guess why?
@@Cl0ckcl0ck Which he did in the book, that was written in 1980. Then he later embarrassed himself when it was revealed he was nearly blown up was because he nailed one of the men he sentenced mom.
Awful. The characters shallow, cliche. The judge is a cartoon. Unwatchable. Embarrassing. The exact opposite of the intelligence of the writing on the original series.
The og show is my favorite show of all time. This just feels like an extension of the show. If you haven't caught up I recommend it. Watching this scene by itself isn't a good way to judge it.
How ?? The lawer speech is BS and Raylan and the judge knew it. The show clearly showed Tyrone was completely in the wrong. Furthermore, it's shown that the judge is on the take with his black book, no doubt from Sweety. I hate when IPs go woke ( RIP star wars and doctor who) but this isn't the case here. This scene shows racism being used as a weapon against the facts of the case's, but a lawyer who only won because the judge was on the take.
You need to use your brain more. Do you think the series is saying it's a good thing that a dangerous guy who threatened the hero's daughter get off? Because that's the only way you can say this scene is woke. And if you're interpreting the scene that way, again use your brain more. And this scene is based off the book.
"Pretty much" probably doesn't cut it in court.
Pretty much. 😁
Most no
First, thank you for playing, second Judge is going to take US Marshal word as the gold standard and not even blink.
Keith David is one of those actors that can play a serious role so well he will make you laugh....
He immediately elevates whatever project he’s involved in.
Yes he does
"The next time you say you're not good at something, Im gonna believe you."
-Art Mullen
"Pretty much."
One of these days, they're gonna learn to stop letting Raylan testify.
It is not like they have a choice. Defense can summons him to testify, which of course they would if the arresting officer tried to NOT testify.
Got Dewey Crowe 300k and Dickie released from prison lolz
Raylan always trying to put somebody in the trunk!! 🤣😂
If the trunk fits, stuff it.
I know it's a show, I wonder about the reaction if raylan fired back: "Would you have preferred I threaten to strap him to the roof of the car?"
How can you not appreciate the pure, honest, sincerity, incorporating a wonderful sense of justice of Marshal Givens!?!? LoL
This is EXACTLY how a veteran judge would act in court in Detroit and I love it
In ANY big city court that is how a judge acts.
They would change a bail hearing into a motion to dismiss, with no briefing or even findings whatsoever?
Seems like the easiest appeal in the world to me.
no it isnt lol
@@christopherevans8340 A judge has discretionary authority to dismiss charges at any time.
@@therealharshlycritical A judge has discretionary authority to drop charges at any time.
"Motherfucker I wanted chick-fil-a!"
Sit yo @ss down!
Raylan : The last time I went on the stand, it wasn't pretty.
The next time Raylan Givens tells you he isn’t good at something…believe him.
I will put bleach blonde or anyone in
@@MisterSmith00pretty much
I love Keith David!
Watched ep. 1 & 2
Great so far
That first episode is really good.
Best show ever
Did you guys know the judge is the voice of the Arbiter in Halo? And Goliath in Gargoyles. Thought his voice sounded familiar
Keith David is also the president in Rick and Morty, not to mention Captain Anderson from Mass Effect. Basically he's the man.😎
He fought Rowdy Roddy Piper for the longest time.
Might be second only to Peter Cullen for voice actors responsibility for my happy childhood memories
the president in rick and morty
Excuse you, that is Childs from The Thing.
I laugh at this because testifying in court was some of the fun of ending a case for me. Most people wouldn't believe how dumb some attorneys are.
How true. I saw a defense attorney get his client convicted & jailed when there were no eyewitnesses. He had the guy testify and he put himself there & committing the crime. If he stayed of the stand he would have walked!!
Gotta love Ryalan
This series does not even come close to the first. Very slow moving. Three episodes in and Raylan has not even shot anyone.😊😊
TV bullshit: You can't ask those questions in a bail hearing. No judge would've allowed it.
I understand it's hibiscus entertainment but Hollywood. It's just not factual
@@curtisyost5247 It shows the quality of the writing.
The quality of the writing 😂 This is hot garbage!! Rayland doesn't put up with ANYONE'S BS..that's just not his character. Everyone including his daughter talk down to him...not my Rayland Givens
@@Willym_Atl In court you'll put up with every ounce of BS flung your way because the judge has a whole bag of "in contempt" ready to go.
Also, who is "Rayland"?
96• and 90% humidity? In Michigan? Looks like the writers wrote this expecting a Florida location!
They were still in Florida when Raylan was threatening them with a trunk ride.
Sounds like somebody decided to comment without actually watching the show....
@@adventreaper Are you really surprised though?
@@donutlivesmatter not even a little
Amazing show, one of the best
I was getting extradited from Utah to Los Angeles one fine day, or two. Late 1980's.
Being escorted by a couple of very jaded, well-armed, vice cops out of Hollywood.
Who were hella hungover from excessive partying the night before we caught our flight.
Following a LONG drive the day before with their badges clipped to the front side windows of the rental car they drove 100+ mph thru Utah, everywhere we went.
Lots of side trips and adventures along the way...
Odd, they are allowed by law/procedure to carry their loaded firearms on the commercial flight.
Isn’t this a movie?
The 80s what a time sadly iam 20 years to late
She emphasizes "black" man- more than black "man" - in the trunk of a car. That is racism. Maybe she does not see it.
If there's one thing that I remember from the series...
Raylan doesn't do well on the stand. Short spurts, sure. Keep him talking and it's like digging a hole with the cement pouring in. Defense probably contends that Raylan violated her client's rights, which EHHH. He kinda sorta did under the circumstances.
If she anything about how raylans old works she wouldn't call him racist at all
She'd call him anything to make her point in front of the judge. She's a lawyer. Her job is to paint the opposition in as bad a light as she reasonably can.
what is his "old?"
@@Joseph1NJ man took out a very dangerous neo nazi group and qnd did worse stuff with them
Great cast in this scene with veteran actors Aunjunae Ellis, and Keith David.
they should have remade this series with all black women
This series was so good!
Is so good.
@@1airportsignguy119 it was good
This is the second series and it has only shown two of eight episodes at this time. Maybe you are from the future?
I can't stop stupid, but I can give them a court date. @@dondee5439
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂go get her Rayland
Raylan Givens has balls to put bad men in the trunk of his car he's done it in Kentucky and will it again no problem
What is his fascination with car trunks?!?
People store their hot lady Marshalls in them?
May answer from, now on pretty much.
Lets get it on
I'm hearing the judge doing his best Marvin Gaye impression now...
She's gonna find out....
“I’m a shitty lawyer and a wannabe victim so I’ll play the race card cuz it’s all I got”
do you know we're I'm from?
Punk said MF i wanted chik filet
I don't like it. It doesn't feel right.
If this is a sample of Detroit Justice in the courtroom, I see the big problem with Detroit. The lawyer is trying to make it about race. The Judge throws out the FL charges, REALLY.
I hope the whole series isn't woke like this.
@@vanlifeguy4816 me too
@@vanlifeguy4816You got problems man.
@@trueblue6201. Not my fault you can't handle the truth.
You’re leaving out the tidbit that he threw out the charges several mins later after Raylan’s daughter was laughing at cat videos in his court & Raylan himself made a quip about being surprised that attempts on his life aren’t made more often.
Judge was more pissed off at Raylan than moved by a race argument. If Raylan doesn’t be Raylan (which we all love him for being) & his bratty, unruly daughter doesn’t disrupt the proceedings then the black guy gets the book thrown at him
From the trailer, I thought the angry black lawyer trying to defend a criminal, who pulled a gun on a federal agent and threatened to assault his daughter, by using the race card would be a parody on social justice. Like, "you can't charge my client, he's black, and to do so would be racist".
Then I found out she's a meant to be a recurring main character who 100% believes she's doing the right thing and the only one trying to do it.
As excited as I was for Justified to get a sequel, I had an inkling they'd mess it up or "modernize" it.
Let's see how they (the writers) are able to resolve her stance w/ that of Raylan's. It's a relevant commentary that pertains to the real world, and it would be on track w/ plenty of Raylan's previous arcs, i.e., how his beliefs and decided actions are at conflict with others' expectations of how he should execute his duties as a marshal.
@@randyqquaint8400 I hope so, cus the "we have to vilify the white cop in his own show because 'wah copaganda'" is just so shallow.
I get the drama between Raylan and the law in the original show was "Raylan, you can't keep goading criminals into pulling a gun on you show you can justify shooting them."
But this is just lame.
@@cytorakdemon I certainly get that, but remember that Raylan historically has made himself an easy target and, in some situations, target of investigation (i.e., his fingerprint on the "next one's coming a lot faster" bullet leading to him being murder suspect) due to his personal anger or frustration that caused him to become more hostile and threatening towards his foes.
Let's also be honest, we know (and love) that Raylan threatens to put people in the trunk all live long day, but if it were to happen to a black man on an overly hot day, drawing attention towards the race card would indeed be a likely eventuality of his defense.
@@cytorakdemon Overall, I don't think the show is going to go full on "racist cop" or anything, it's just going to be another hurdle that Raylan needs to find a way of adapting to.
That's not even close to what is happening, did you actually watch the episode?
I gotta find that hat.
First episode was borderline cringe but the second was better.
I loved justified, so far this is ehhh... Pretty good. But I gotta say, not trying to be mean but it's pretty funny, after Ray's daughter said just 3-4 lines I was like wtf?? How did this girl get casted?? Terrible acting so I looked her up.... Oh 😬 lol
Not near as good as the original
cast not casted
It is his real life daughter.
I found her quite adequate for the role of an annoying teenager. She also has some range when guilting Raylan for being a lackluster dad. She did a pretty good job
@@dondee5439 WOW! I didn't see that coming
Spoons
Very disappointed in this! Where was the Raylan we all loved? Basically and afterthought.
Oh gees they aren't playing the race card now. Can we just get away from that crap?
She’s a defense attorney, that’s what they do.
I can't stand his daughter and the black woman lawyer
Looks like this show is ruffling some racist feathers 🪶. This is great 😂
@@pbradics3670 Why wouldn't it be great?
@@pbradics3670 LOL... Careful now. You're walking a fine line between playing d*mb and being d*mb.
Purtymuch
Had a good feeling this new series would pull the social commentary stuff, being based in Detroit. Dangit.
Have a good feeling you never even watched the episode.
@@bjchit You’re right, but I only had to watch this clip to see what I’m talking about.
@@ComedyBros5 So you haven’t watched the episode, probably haven’t read the book (that was written in 1980, btw) either where the judge behaved the same way, but you can 100% ascertain that this is social commentary. Ok.
@@bjchitDo you really think he's smart enough to read Elmore Leonard?
@@jebediahkrimsoncraftleding3012 I don’t want to be like him and assume.
Love Justified, but the legal plotholes in this series is at best a joke. If you've ever been in a court room or dealt with lawyers on a large scale you'd know this was pure garbage.
I have been in a court room and dealt with lawyers. Lawyers are stupid. Judges are not. Don't know what your point is.
@@josephkramer932 You realize judges are all lawyers, right?
@Hibernicus1968 not true. Judges are almost always FORMER lawyers. But some judges are appointed, elected or nominated. There is not a national uniform rule for who can be a judge.
@@josephkramer932 I've been a police officer for 23 years, and a detective for 16. I've been testifying in courtrooms almost every single week for going on a quarter of a century, and I have yet to meet a judge who wasn't a lawyer. I've seen good judges and bad ones, but they all had law degrees, and experience as trial lawyers.
@@Hibernicus1968 Well, that shut him up.
Carolyn's character sucks sooooooooooooooo bad. Almost as much as Raylan's daughter
Raylan is being treated like Trump here ?
The first two episodes were so deadly boring. I am a huge Justified fan, but they’ve lost something big being out of Harlan, KY.
Boy, the writing has really declined in this reprise. Got woke and went broke. Bye
God this show is horrible.... A shell of the original, and completely unnecessary.
no kidding… you know it’s gonna be bad when woke bullshit is in the first 10 minutes.
@@fightstance411 I shut it off after the court scene when they turned it racist.
SO far that lawyer looks like the over-actor in this new series. First six seasons had plenty of them.
The daughter is a worthless addition to the show on the same level as The Blacklist.
Between work, school, and social media, I’m saturated with insufferable race-baiting. Really would like for it to not be in entertainment too.
So a shady defense attorney using the race card to get her client off and an openly corrupt judge blaming racism (something he did in the book in 1980) is race baiting now?
Poor baby.
@@jebediahkrimsoncraftleding3012 Sorry. I’ll go read more Kendi and keep on pretending that’s how the world works.
@@bjchit You should probably read your sentences over before you press enter. And you forgot the following scene about how it “takes an angry white man to catch an angry white man.”
@@warrenamis4332 Nothing wrong with what I said. Ah yes, the detective teasing Raylan once, the most angry man Wynona had ever met, is race baiting. They never mentioned race ever in Justified, not ever (spoiler alert: they did, several times).
President of Earth busted all the way down to judge, smh.
10 minutes into this show and it was already heavy handed with the woke race nonsense. Hopefully the SJW BS hasn’t claimed another great character! I LOVED this show. Raylan was a complete badass that got along with all races in the original series. They want you to feel bad for a convicted felon car jacker that threatened his daughter. The old Raylan would have smoked them both. Im gonna give this show a chance but don’t have high hopes that Raylan survived wokeness.
What are you even talking about? In the first show Raylen pretty much always gives the criminals a chance.
Have you read the book that Justified: Primal City is based on? If you have read it then you should realize this isn’t a “woke” show but a story about a serial killer and his killing tendencies.
STOP USING THE WORD”WOKE”, “WOKEN”, “WOKENESS”. IT IS GETTING SO OLD THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO MAKE A POINT FOR WHY A TV SHOW ACTUALLY MAKE PEOPLE USE THEIR BRAIN
I love when racist think they're saying something by using the word woke. You're better off jumping up and down in the street screaming that you're asleep and ignorant.
Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination". Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as sexism.
@@katinasearfoss9617 You mean getting old like calling everyone who doesn’t agree with you a racist, fascist, or nazi ? That’s been old for a long time now and completely sterilizes names that use to be reserved for truly awful people but now hold no meaning. Yeah it’s really frustrating when people overuse terms.
This is just bad writing. Season 6 of Justified was already an embarrassment ... it appears that the tradition continues.
This show has gone Woke . Pity. Judge dismissed the Florida charges? You just lost a fan.
Bye Felicia.
@@lauramckenzie9070 explain
@@gabevachon326 How about you explain how it's woke? Did they not say "yes masta" enough for you?
@@bjchit You have been programmed to react that way and revert back to a slavery response. You won't listen to reason. But the carnage of black on black violence, the abandonment of families by black men and the utter lack of focus on getting an education is the real scourge of community failures among certain minorities. But not Asians . Care to guess why?
You don't have to announce it, nobody cares dude. Watch or don't watch. Quit crying about it
Ah, and woke we go round and round again. Hopefully it’s just a small token bit of wokeness though and not a recurring theme. It’s a crappy theme.
Then don't watch it, go watch reruns of Dukes of Hazzard.
You think a defense attorney using the race card is a new thing?
Just before this clip the judge goes on a rant about how he thinks Detroit is the most racist thing there ever was.....
@@Cl0ckcl0ck And he's telling the truth, same thing about Chicago.
@@Cl0ckcl0ck Which he did in the book, that was written in 1980. Then he later embarrassed himself when it was revealed he was nearly blown up was because he nailed one of the men he sentenced mom.
They went and ruined Justified.
They went used the source material!
@Al2023- You know what smart people don't do? Judge a book they never read.
Awful. The characters shallow, cliche. The judge is a cartoon. Unwatchable. Embarrassing. The exact opposite of the intelligence of the writing on the original series.
The daughter ruined this whole show.
How?
Look how they've massacred my boy. Show is steep decline.
Quick question, have you watched any part of the show outside of a few out of context clips?
The og show is my favorite show of all time.
This just feels like an extension of the show. If you haven't caught up I recommend it. Watching this scene by itself isn't a good way to judge it.
its crap
I don't like this Karen character
🤠🤠🤠🤠👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊
Of course they made it woke.
How ??
The lawer speech is BS and Raylan and the judge knew it. The show clearly showed Tyrone was completely in the wrong. Furthermore, it's shown that the judge is on the take with his black book, no doubt from Sweety.
I hate when IPs go woke ( RIP star wars and doctor who) but this isn't the case here.
This scene shows racism being used as a weapon against the facts of the case's, but a lawyer who only won because the judge was on the take.
Woke means aware of social injustice, especially as pertaining to race...
What sane person would object to that????
@@jeffanon1772. Spoken like a true lefty
You need to use your brain more.
Do you think the series is saying it's a good thing that a dangerous guy who threatened the hero's daughter get off? Because that's the only way you can say this scene is woke. And if you're interpreting the scene that way, again use your brain more.
And this scene is based off the book.
@@vanlifeguy4816 spoken like a true BIGOT....