Lightning Lane Issues, Park Talk & Channel Updates! Lets Chat!
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- In today’s video I wanted to chat about some of the latest topics covered on the channel including Lightning Lane and new attractions. Hope you enjoy todays lets chat!
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Super important. Too many out there, some with a lot of subs, who lie to their audience.
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Dylan, Thank you for being a theme park enthusiast that isn’t afraid to offer constructive criticism, specifically for Disneyland. Most influencers keep quiet bc they are on Disney pay roll or they believe Disney can do no wrong. I wish Fast Pass would come back Disney wasn’t built on the idea of a different experiences based on how much you are willing/able to pay. Disney has plenty of other places they can bring in profit. Fast pass gives everybody an equal opportunity. Keep up the awesome videos!
I was a former VIP tour guide for many years. I agree with your sentiments. Disney didn’t honestly give us much. It was all up to us - the guide - to make the tour enjoyable. It was better during the Fastpass days and then slightly worse during the MaxPass days. Then it went to hell during Lightning lane. Can’t imagine what it’s like now. It was nice when we hosted celebrities because we would get access all tour guests should honestly get for what they pay for.
It was a nightmare when Rise first opened because we didn’t have access and would have to pray we got a boarding group…. And then wait in the f**king line. Now I have ptsd. Haha 😂
Glad you mentioned highlighting the beauty of theme parks. A few months back, you had a little cinematic style montage of some stuff from Disney Animal Kingdom and it was so beautiful!! Still one of my favorite sequences you did! 🤩🥰😘
My boyfriend and I met Dylan at Universal Hollywood and his statement at the end discussing his passion for theme parks is NOT a lie. He was so genuine and he talked to us for a while and gave us so much information about updates. What you see on this channel is genuinely who he is as a person! Kind, smart and passionate!
We're going to Tokyo Disneyland/Sea in May. So excited!! I do love your appreciation for theme parks.
Idr the last time I waited in a line at Universal because of their great CAPPED express pass. Disney should definitely do this too. I agree 100%.
Fast pass was great, Max pass was best. I think they should get rid of lightning lane, increase ticket prices and build max pass into every ticket. Lightning lane is necessary to enjoy the park so Disney should make sure that all guests have it.
Totally agree!
Its not necessary though. The necessity for it is fabricated. And giving it to every guest fixes nothing. It needs to be given to LESS guests.
Thank you for this! We just got back from our first trip to DisneyWorld and the lightening lane was an absolute joke. Waited at least 20 min for every ride we used lightening lane on and most were unavailable to book (“sold out”) after 11 or 12. The virtual queues were also terrible. Waited over 100 minutes to get on Tron after waiting all day for our group to get called. My husband was also upset that I had to be on my phone so much to book everything. It was just a mess. We will not be going back for a very long time. It’s a shame.
Wow some Dylan shade at the end , I don’t know he was talking about but I’m here for it! Love your channel.
I recently revisited Disneyland for the first time since early 2020. I had already ridden rise (through the scary lottery system 😨) so the only new ride was runaway railway. I forgot they even built it to be honest but I remembered right when we walked into the park. We went straight to toontown at opening and walked right on. I heard a lot of bad things about the attraction but it honestly made me feel that old Disney joy I hadn’t felt in years. The ride was pretty much on my mind all day and I realized they got rid of the only other ride that made me feel that way (splash mountain) i loved it so much we made it our last ride of the night at midnight. I really don’t get the hate for the attraction considering it’s such a joyful classic feeling Disney ride, the one that leaves you smiling days after you’ve ridden it. I was just kind of curious what you thought of the ride and if you think the hate it gets is fair or not.
Problem with LL and Genie+ and overall price increases is that as long as people keep pumping their money into it it’ll never change nor go away.
I auditioned for HHN in person last year and got a golden ticket but never heard back. I definitely want to audition again this year!
Thanks for the update 😊
23:00 Super boomerang doesn't fit anymore with the expansion of the car ride, it BARELY fit before, down to the foot. Something like a Gael Force clone would fit though, offers extreme ejector forces. With the Merger, Knott's will be more a family/kid park like disneyland, MM will be more of extreme coaster park.
Hello my Disney people! Dylan, thank you so much for this! I went to world for the first time ever in January! I have two kids on the spectrum and used the DAS for the first time ever. We were waiting for 30-40 minutes still and my kids CANNOT do that. It was so disappointing to me. It put a huge damper on everything and the trip was low rides because the amount of stimulation and waiting in line is just not in the cards for my kids. It breaks the part of my heart that just wishes I could have that magic experience back. We went from wanting to do all 4 parks to just doing 2 because it just wasn’t worth it for the cost. Hopefully y’all see this issue for children with needs. I’m even willing to show them my kids diagnosis at this point for them to take families like me seriously. Hope you see this and thanks again❤️
See they need to have a better system especially with your situation. The experience needs to be more streamlined that way you and your family can experience the parks without stress or feeling like you’re not getting enough out of it. Let’s hope they fix the DAS experience soon.
As someone who goes to USH and DIsneyland
USH is just selling Genie Plus for more, it doesn't help the lines to make the prices insane people with money just buy it and the rest of us have to wait. At least at Disneyland, its a fair price. 30 bucks compared to the 100+ at USH is a steal, same with Knotts and Six Flags which those lines get insane because of people with passes getting to buy pass the line but Disneyland seems to get the most crap for it
I think besides making an option for Magic Keys to be able to buy Genie Plus for the entire year, I a much happier with spending 30 bucks extra on a trip to the parks vs 100 at USH, Knotts or Six Flags.
But Universal caps it at a much lower number unlike Disney. It’s noticeably lower and yeah Universal isn’t perfect but the system they use is superior imo.
Needs to be a low cap and high price so the company can still benefit.
LL should absolutely be limited to a very high-priced luxury experience, much like the foreign Disney parks. I think the real problem in the US parks is the feeling of being "nickel and dimed" to death. If Disney just raised prices to $200+ per day and eliminated all the incessant upcharges, the whining would drop substantially in the long run. People are ultimately paying the same overall amount, but wouldn't be reminded of it constantly.
You are not using G+. The lines and waits look bad, but the average wait time with LL is 20 minutes or less once scanned. Scan time is maybe 5 minutes. The Standby line is what suffers. Fix the Maintenance/Ride repair teams due to the constant breakdowns. Update the way MEP LLs are given out when an attraction does breakdown. Fix the DAS abuse. Disney will not change except to raise the price slightly until there is a drastic downturn in guest purchases.
The thing is there shouldn’t be 20 min lines in the LL, that defeats the purpose and takes the exclusivity out of the product. Too many people are able to purchase it and that’s the biggest issue.
Maintenance is also a huge issue that I agree with, and the company sees it as an expenditure they don’t want to deal with which is not good.
MEP should be treated like how it was in Tokyo. They had a really good way of approaching it.
Pirates of the Caribbean didn't have FastPass when I went there in 2014. Cone to think of it, only six, seven, or eight rides at each of the two Disneyland parks had FastPass. What percentage of rides at each of the two parks would you say have Lightning Lane?
Your integrity shows though!! Love your content!!
Greatly appreciate you. 😁
My main problem is with the disability pass. Lots of people, including myself, use the pass because we can't stand in enclosed spaces with lots of people without having panic attacks. The fact that we're pushed into the lightning lane line, which could take just as long as the regular line, just defeats the purpose and is putting people who use the disability pass at risk.
There needs to be another way to solve the problem. Crossing my fingers Disney can put their heads together to really figure out something that works and is really efficient.
I went to islands of adventure just this last week, I really didnt miss the 3d part. The graphics were still really good
I absolutely agree with what you say about Lightening Lane. It’s literally common sense
And what sucks is Disney won’t do anything, at least not for awhile.
So lame 😒
People were mad about paying $15-$30 for Genie+, now you wanna charge $200?! I get it, but people are mad at this small increase. I can only imagine what they'll say then.
I mean it is what it is. If people want a good experience and the company still wants to make a million bucks then that’s what they have to do.
Appreciate your efforts, Dylan!
Appreciate it 😁
Luv yu dude!!! Never stop!!!
Luv ya right back
Pair sea world with the San Diego zoo safari park! People will love to see all the animals. You can go zip lining or even do a safari tour if you want extra
Idk if they would group up but a zip line at SeaWorld would be amazing!
Your right that's not right for people to wait in line longer
Wdw announced hotel res cancel policy is changing from 5 to 8 days. Speculation is because they hinted going back to booking genie plus or LL 7 days prior to arrival date. Feedback from a Wdw survey was huge about being mad waiting until day of to book and be stuck on the phone all day
As of march 2, the montazuma revenge is back on
Boom goes the dynamite
Great suggestion Dylan, in regards to Lightning Lane!! I think they’ll at least listen to you!!
I hope but at the same time I feel like Disney can care less about what people think of the company. Sucks.
Can't wait for you to visit the "Sweetest Place on Earth" Hershey Park. Lots of coaster credits there! 🍫 🎢
I can’t wait. Really looking forward to visiting
I’m thinking Knott’s will take out Montezooma and extend the GSRR using that space, routing it to Camp Snoopy.
Agree with you 100% about the lightning lane at Disney. We stopped going because it's gotten too complicated and simply not worth it. Ive said for years now that they need to copy Universal on express passes and charge whatever $300, $400 I don't care I'll pay it to not have to deal with reserving every last second. We were so annoyed that we were going to book the VIP tour having enjoyed them at Universal even though it's nearly double the price of Universal but when she said you still wait in line and there's nothing included I said what a scam and never went back to Disney. That was 7 years ago!
Keep up the good work 🎉
Thank you! Will do!
Disney used to be the template to follow...no more unfortunately. Universal is doing it right! This is the new template. I hope Disney will wise up!
They will rise back up in a few years. It just takes a kick in the butt for them to wake up.
How about a theme park ticket where I am tagged as non rider. Let me Go in eat shop enjoy the ambiance. I’d love to do universal or other parks but I can’t ride anything. It’s why I’m loyal to Disney I can still ride most of their stuff. Not the new stuff but the older family things
They need to bring back the fast passes! And for the love of Pete let us use a fast pass for the same ride, twice in a day! Or three times! Or four!
What sucks is they will never bring back a free thing. It’s going to cost money. The entire thing is all messed up.
I believe “capping” LL is a good idea. And purchases prior to park entry.
I'd love to see you hit different parks across the USA like SDC, Busch Gardens and other independent parks as well as some other Six Flags parks, but... Money.
I have been to Silver Dollar City which was awesome. I’ll be back soon for sure. 😁
Magic Mountain can fit a Giga, but they would just have to spread it out over the Midway
Yeah it would have to be covering a lot more ground. So maybe one day but for now I’m thinking this is something totally different.
I really like what you are saying. Makes total sense. I’m curious though. How do you know 50% of the park goers have lightening lane? I need to know so I can get behind what you are saying with confidence. Where do you get your numbers? Is it posted somewhere? As a Disney lover from Northern California I always purchase lightening lane because I only get to go once every year or two. I would pay $200 IF it was capped like you said.sounds like a good plan. How do we make it happen?!!!
In earnings calls they have said that nearly half the park is purchasing it. The cap is really really high so that’s why the system is so overloaded.
Yeah. They need to fix the problem. I just watched a recent video from fresh baked and it really highlighted how bad things are with lightening lane. Needs to get capped for sure.
Thanks for replying! I love watching you and all the vloggers. Keeps me well informed. I’m such a disnerd!
Hey Dylan! ACE Southwest is hosting a day at SeaWorld San Diego on Saturday, April 27! You and Michael should join us! We have ERT and lunch planned. Watch for event ticket info very soon!
I’ll keep an eye out for sure.
Omg...ty for explanation that lightening issue is horrendous the way you put it. Makes me sad. I hope I can afford to go back. 😢
I agree, I would buy LL if it cost 200$ for loe cap and yes it should be unlimited
Haven’t been to universal in years. Can’t do extreme coasters or screens so I have nothing.
Skip the line pass at a universal Hollywood is $149 many days + $50 for unlimited
And Disney should do the same system.
I live through you
It's all greed. A loved one who works for Disney shared before, Disney will keep raising their prices as long as people keep paying.
Have you been to Dollywood? I'd love to see that
Yup! I went two years ago and it was amazing.
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Imagine a quick spur of the moment trip to Texas parks and Taking in the Total Solar Eclipse 😊That’s a nice once in a lifetime opportunity
Also SHOCKING how little you get with VIP not that I could do that without winning the lottery. But still..
I did it once in my lifetime back in 2017.
I have DAS and have to skip rides still when I get there because the lightning lane is so long.
Where is the park that you’re at? it looks very peaceful
As someone who just spent a day at Disneyland and another day at California Adventure, I agree that the Lightning Lane is broken and needs modifications. I will say, my wife and I got Lightning Lane both days and when it was our time window to go (which I recognize is an issue) we waited no more than 10 minutes, but mostly 5 or less. As people who had APs when Fast Pass existed, we were prepared for that amount of a wait and were both frustrated with it. That being said, the Standby lines, especially in Disneyland, were very frustrating and clearly caused by LL.
They really should have left it alone when it was a fast pass. Too much like right and greed usurps everything
I love these walk and talks. The TPO office is really getting bigger. 😂 Thanks for bringing up the DAS pass. Right now it's a mess and people take advantage of it.
The office gets bigger and I seem to just find more space in it lol
And yeah the entire system that have at the resorts is awful. They need to go back to the drawing board.
The problem with Lightning Lane is that it is a poorer version of the old free fast passes. I would love for them to go back to the old fast pass system or go with the limited number more expensive route like Universal.
Hello Dylan. Your thoughts about the way the situation is with lightening Lane is primarily how Dave and I are feeling. We have a disabled person who is wheelchair restricted and we were in standby for 3 1/2 hours in the queue for Radiator Springs racers. It was a terrible experience. We’ve not been back to ride. Other rides are getting just as bad. We don’t purchase genie+ or Lightening Lane, we can’t afford it. We wanted to tell you that we appreciate your feedback about the parks. Thank you! We truly hope you have a wonderful, magical and memorable day. ❤🏰❤
Maybe it will be a custom six axces
Remember their makeing the transformer one in Dubai i think maybe they decided to go with one to.
Your frustration with lightning lane means Disney has to raise the price. They will raise price to meet demand. They won't cap it, the price will cap it.
Well what’s dumb is they can cap it at a high price and boost their guest satisfaction by doing so. Executive leadership not seeing that just tells me they are clueless.
My BIL works backstage at TDA in management and he said that Disney will never change anything to benefit the guest unless it makes the company more money. I doubt we'll see any improvement in LL.
I was going to suggest it, but then you said it, and that is to cap the number of lightning lanes per day, or raise the price. $200 might be strep…maybe $150. Then cap the number to 10K. Speaking of coasters, what’s going on at the big parking lot coaster at Knott’s/Six Flags? You are correct in that Knott’s Boysenberry Festival bis better than Food n Wine at Disneyland. Sorry, but my SeaWorld is gone…it didn’t need that many coasters. I can’t wait to see the new coaster at Uni Holly. Thank you so much, Dylan.
Someone has serious feelings on Lightning Lane. It does seem like a mess. I was at Hollywood Studios in 2021 when they had Genie. That was terrible.
Universal has a good pass system. They have two options, single ride and unlimited, and both have pricing based on how busy the park.
The 3D was only effective on Kong if you sit in the middle seats. It needs more practical components.
I have plans to go to HHN in Orlando in late September.
As always, love your videos. You are one of the few people to put time and effort into the production of your content.
lol regarding getting old, I’ll be 48 in September. So keep going, you don’t out grow theme parks.
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Can’t compare universal to Disney!! Universal is getto and not doing anything right.
Disney does not need to up the price for genie. They just need to limit them. There’s a reason most people don’t go to Universal.
Universal continues to beat its previous years attendance records so idk what you’re talking about. And also Disney would have to raise the price because no way a giant corporation is going to just cap Genie+ and take a loss from previous quarters. If you cap it you must raise the price to see the same return.
Love the video and want some tips on starting a vlog channel for me and Michael are thinking of moving to Florida just us together someday and want to meet you some day at Disney land in June
The only way you can make it work for the consumer and Disneyland for the lightning lane would be the more people that get it cost more
tl;dr - Too many LL queue guests allowed per day, reduce the number back to FP numbers as a hard cap and tell guests who complain about having to wait after paying to pound sand, after all Disney is basically saying that to the guests who pay they just don't pay more.
I knew before Lightning Lane hit day 1 that it was going to be a problem specifically because of the price point they set things at, because other parks had their versions essentially double the cost of a day's ticket if you wanted to skip lines, and in those parks there's not a huge problem with line skipping ruining the standby (usually). But the biggest issue with Lightning Lane isn't the amount of people that buy it, it's the fact that there doesn't seem to be much of any cap to how many people can reserve a spot, with Fastpass there was a limited number of passes a machine could give in a day, you rope drop Indiana Jones, then after you ride it go grab a FP you might have a return window of 3pm. FPs were a limited quantity item, and if they ran out they ran out, there was no more line skipping to be had.
Unfortunately with LL they have a financial responsibility to the people to buy it to keep them happy, if 50% of the park is getting it realistically you should only be able to skip 3 or 4 rides a day with only 1 or 2 being big E-ticket type rides, remember what Disney said with FP+ as WDW? "On average people get THREE FPs a day" which is why FP+ allowed you to reserve three before hand, and then as you used them up having more available was an option, but THREE A DAY! Meanwhile one of the DisneyFoodBlog reports on this found they got 12 of 16 rides with LL at MK, 4 of 8 at Epcot, 5 of 5 at AK, and 8 of 8 at HS. Basically they are not limiting anyone on how many line skips a day, and the net result is what you see, people get frustrated watching 10 LL people go through for every 1 standby guest, doesn't matter if there aren't any LL people at the join point they still hold the standby line if they see someone entering way down the LL queue line. Those upset people vow to not be screwed so they get Genie+, now more people get LL and standby guests have two options, buy Genie+ or demand a refund from the park for the system ruining their day and then they're out all the travel expensive, hotel expenses, etc.
While bumping it to $200+ a day is a good place to start, but I still think there needs to be limits on how many lines you get to skip, otherwise what makes it different than the VIP experience that used to let you skip every line? (Pre LL days). I personally think LL can work as it's current costs and numbers who buy it, but the amount of reservations need to be HARD capped and that cap needs to be CONSIDERABLY less than what it is now, like no more than 5% of the ride capacity per hour can go to LL, and if there is a breakdown on the ride LL does NOT get priority to clear the line first, tough sh*t, 5% of the guests max. But Disney has to be strong for the people that complain that they were only able to get 3 line skips with Genie+ or whatever, this is largely what happened early on at WDW too many people got it, some people knew how to game the system more than others and Disney put out a statement that said "you should expect to get between 2 and 3 per day" but again, the article referenced above got 12.
Now unfortunately the problem is that Genie+ only sells what it sells today because life is absolutely horrible for standby guests, which then in turn makes standby even more horrible, and then LL starts to become a pain too, so if they did end up making it so only 5% of queue space goes to LL then they wouldn't sell as many Genie+ packages, and hence not make as much money. And unfortunately the bean counters at Disney only care about the bottom line, they don't give a rats arse about peoples enjoyment in the park as long as that dollar number doesn't dip, and unfortunately peoples enjoyment would coincide with them making less money.
I have to say, it really ****ing pisses me off what Disney has done with the whole LL thing, because I refuse to pay extra when ticket prices are already so high, and I also refuse to go to a place that I have loved because the cost of admission doesn't mean jack sh*t for enjoying your day.
since we’re chatting um i know this has nothing to do w Disney butttt i’m already thinking about Hollywood Horror Nights am i crazy for that ? 😩
Do you know what happened to the roller coaster that they were talking about building at Knotts berry farm?
You are so right on lighting lane !
When are you going to Shanghai Disneyland Park?
It’s in the works 😉
You really lost ur dam mind telling Disney to charge $200 for a lighting lane. 😂
If they cap it at 5k a day at $200 a person I’m all for it. I hope they do.
Would be a better experience for everyone.
I've never bought Lightning Lane at Disneyland.. just seems like a hassle, and u always have to be on your phone constantly
I have done it a couple times and each time it just becomes an annoyance.
Disney needs the income now more than ever, and the parks are supporting other areas of Disney’s business, so they are not going to get rid of lightning lane/Genie Plus anytime soon.
Thank you so much for talking about the disability factor at Disneyland because it is so bad and nobody wants to talk about it it seems.
I think Universal Hollywood should bring ET Back
Amen to that lol
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So how do you feel that Walt Disney World and Company is considered the worst theme parks in the United States?
I believe you’re referring to the article about it being too expensive or not valuable? If so I mean here’s the thing. All the theme parks are getting out of hand when it comes to price at least here in the United States. Things should be costing that much.
Disney's first mistake was introducing their skip the line option as a free perk.
Yup, totally ruined the standby lines.
The "poor people" would be outraged at a $150-200 LL charge
It’s not even about people being poor. It’s just about providing value.
A venue selling a VIP ticket that everyone can purchase doesn’t make it exclusive, it just turns into a normal ticket.
The service has to be priced high for the company to make the same money in order to cap it at a low # that benefits all parties.
Genie + is sucks
The Lightning Lane sucks
Yeah it’s not great. They need to re structure it.
How about some love for the lesser attended parks like Castle Park, Adventure City, Legoland, Santa Monica Pier..
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