•Updates - • Yunjin has Eb5/E5 in her higher register, Her supported range is A3~Bb4/B4~Eb5/E5 • Yujin (IVE) will be around Jennie and Chaeyoung, Minnie can be placed somewhere around them as an estimation too. • Nayeon has a Solid G#3 in her lower register, Her supported Range is G#3~A4/Bb4 • Miyeon has A4/Bb4 in her mix, Her supported range is G#3/A3~A4/Bb4 • Sullyoon is a Weak to Average Vocalist, her place in this list remains the same. • For any updates on the dance ranking, please refer to the below document. - Dance Document ~ docs.google.com/document/d/1oiIblgTcOX0dmO2edqZ_yk6epR_E4bAOgva2f7n9CwY/edit?usp=sharing
Jihyo > Yunjin, Jihyo has a better low register and her mix is much more solid compared to Yunjin, on her tour she has had quite a few solid B4s, Yunjin only beats Jihyo in HV
@@davakdks isn't everything in this world made by humans ? ( except for natural components) Even the device you are holding rn is made by someone, that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist lmao
@@aidentai5867 sakura and shuhua are the worst vocalists in their respective groups. Chaeryoung is the temporary main vocalist of itzy. How can u say that😅
@@elfy2006 chaeryoung is infact a temporary vocalist. I don't think you have heard itzy songs. Don't worry. You should see Mr vampire and untouchable. Chaeryoung will prove herself there :)
no matter whats the updates about vocal category with the new groups, i knew that wendy will remains at number 1 tho, the finest vocalist in kpop today
Only one problem , *ROSÉ IS THE LEAD DANCER IN BLACKPINK WHILE JISOO & JENNIE ARE LAZY . FORGET ABOUT JISOO , SHE IS IN THE PERFECT POSITION , BUT JENNIE ??????!!!!!?!?!???!!!!! U COULD'VE GIVEN 51 TO JISOO , 50 TO JENNIE & 28 TO ROSÉ . THIS IS VERY UNFAIR TO ROSÉ*
@diamondentertainmentkpop5008 all arounder is thrown around too much but jiwoo is definitely an all rounder. Dance, Rap, Vocals, and stage presence are all there
So? Idk about Irene but Rosé and Mina are very stiff(due to them being flexible, it’s also the case with Lia and Kazuha), they often mess up the footwork, have little control over their body power, Rosé also has problems controlling her arms and legs due to their length and more.
@@Minty_Sana giselle and karina are literally at the same level, giselle just being a little more consistently open in her mix, but karina having so many good moments as well, plus karina having better lows than giselle at G#3
Even though yeri and Irene are ranked low in vocals (based off support), I think they still have such a great sense of musicality in terms of music key, harmonies, layers, stability, and lyricism (for yeri)
how can jisoo and chaeryong be the weakest vocals (in their groups) if they are the lead vocalists how can rosè be the weakest dance (in their groups) if she is the lead dancer
Positions don’t mean shit. Jihyo is the 2nd best dancer in her group yet she doesn’t have a dance position, Yuqi is the 2nd best vocalist and she doesn’t even have lead vocal ect. Chaer is sub vocalist and Jisoo isn’t a good vocalist, she just has an attractive voice. Rosé is stiff, dances awkwardly(due to her long limbs), has problem controlling her body and her power, often messes up the footwork and more. Chaer is my itzy bias and Rosé is my bp bias so whatever you say idk
@@MIDZYwhoONCEfoundanNSWER4KISSYgirl… JIHYO ISNT the best in twice, she doesn’t have a better technique, footwork, projecting and clean lines than Momo, Jihyo is a really good dancer but not the best in twice. Rosé is 2nd on her group, she isn’t “stiff” footwork, body lines, angles, fluidity, insolations in all of this she is good + she is a one of the greatest performers
I respect your work and omg im so surprised that Chaeryeong is so low in vocals and that Momo is below Jihyo 😨 I am sor proud of Jiwoo being second but I somehow always knew since O.O she was such a powerful dancer
@@Rkive_thv-cr7beyeah because I know nothing about vocals I just started learning recently, I wasn't expecting her on like the top 20 ofc but just not 50th
The fact that it is both rv members at top 1 for both categories their talent doesnt get recognized becuase of those dozen members ( yeri improved a lot)
which dozen? There's a lot.. TWICE 3 or 4 LE SSERAFIM 2 ITZY 1 (she's the dozen's dozen cuz she's better than most of dozens in dancing) NMIXX 0 (I'd say none cuz all of them are good imo, even Bae) IVE 1 (Leeseo is Wonyoung younger version) RV 1 BP 1
For me Twice and Ive are the vocal queens✨ And of course I don't know about dance queens but Momo and Jihyo are the Emperesses of Dancing 💖 🔴IT'S MY OPINION
all new jeans members came under 15 in dance it shows new jeans is the best dance group but many people will disagree this becuase their dance steps is not hard as itzy nmixx but their choreogrphy is based on open style thats why they are good at dancing
Minty slaying as usual. But i have some disagreements • I don't think you should use Underdeveloped to Weak, this isn’t a real Tier. • I don't think you should put Yujin/Rei/Minnie in a different tier as Mina/Chaeyoung (I didn't said Jennie, because she could be a really low w, but That's arguable), they are the same. • Liz doesn't have G#3/A3 - A4, her supported range is A3 - A4/Bb4, she has never supported a G#3. • Hyein is Weak tier and stronger than Haerin imo. • Chaewon has enough development for say she has A3/Bb3 on her supported range. • Yunjin has supported head voice up to G#5 (at best) (but I don't know how consistent her hv is.)
Mina jennie and chaeyoung all were weak at a time their just less consistent they have a support range arguably weak but lack engagement with their diaphragm, undeveloped are those who haven't supported but are relaxed its unfair to put people who's support is inconsistent there because they have actually supported, Liz has supported G#3 but since Debut its debatable, haerin is the second best Vocalist in New jeans ,yunjin head voice is extremely consistent but she supported Eb5/E5 in head voice no more no less.
@@katykim not sure about Rei, but Yujin and Minnie have occiasional moments of support too, and are more than "just relaxed", and that is the reason why I said they should be on the same level as Jennie, Mina, Chaeyoung.
@@katykim the weak tier already encompasses the differences between support, low weak is for those who have had occasional support or that is extremely inconsistent and shallow (Mina, Chaeyoung and jennie), mid weak is for those who have shown support more than low weak and is less inconsistent, but not enough to be high weak (Sinb, Yoon and Yeji), and the high weak show almost all the time shallow support but have some inconsistent moments (Chaewon, Joy and Lia), no need to invent another tier
Anyone who states or believes Soyeon has weak vocals just proves how little they know about her and gidle. Soyeon could EASILY be a main vocalist if she wanted to.
NMIXX is such an Insane Group In Vocals All 6 members in Top 20 3 members in top 10 Nd 2 members In Top 3!! In Dance All 6 members r minimum at level High Tier 7!! (Which is the level of best dancer in many groups) Haewon being Low Tier 6 Kyujin High 6 ranked in Top 10 Nd Jiwoo Taking 2nd Spot Overall with her level of Low Tier 5 making her One of the best dancers in 4th Gen!! Truly Amazing NMIXX is such an All Rounded Group Even in Rap though not as strong as their Dance nd Vocals , Still is quite good and all 6 members have shown the potential as rappers while Jiwoo Being Good at Rapping Kyujin Sullyoon Haewon Bae nd Lily have proved they can rap too in their Videos!! Nd Btw Not Newjeans being one of the best dance groups in 4th gen!!
jesus christ this makes me glad that kpop stans arent in charge of kpop idols - the mysterious "support tiers" r so useless bc support isnt even the most important part of singing. theres so many other things important to singing like pitch, vibrato, clarity, agility, etc. - the dance "tiers" r absolute trash bc theyre based on open style (which is very different from kpop dancing, which is why chaeryeong who is arguably top 5 idol dancer) and they group together a lot of dancers of very different skill levels to the same tier (like it groups weak dancers like jeongyeon with stronger dancers like sana)
I think kpop idols should be ranked as performers, not dancers. Dancing is part of performing and it's very important, but if someone dances well with stiff or bad facial expressions, even if their dancing is great, they're not good as a performer.
Aight so average placement: Vocals: Aespa: 8,75 Nmixx: 11 Red Velvet: 22,6 NewJeans: 28 Twice: 31,33 (S)I-DLE: 31,4 Blackpink: 31,5 LE SSERAFIM: 32,2 Ive: 36,67 Itzy: 37 Dance: NewJeans: 11 (omg, I was not aware of that at all) Nmixx: 17,33 Itzy: 18,4 Aespa: 27,75 (S)I-DLE: 28,6 (huh, I expected them to be lower) LE SSERAFIM: 29 Twice: 32,11 Blackpink: 33,5 Red Velvet: 33,8 Ive: 40,5 (saved by Yujin💀) My fav: 1. Itzy 2. Blackpink 3. Nmixx 4. Aespa 5. (G)I-DLE with 6 members 6. LE SSERAFIM (surpassed TWICE with this comeback) 7. TWICE 8. Ive 9. Red Velvet 10. NewJeans 11. (S)I-DLE with 5 members
Agree. No idea how Sakura and Shuhua got so high on their ranking, and Wonyoung absolutely isn't as far from the others in IVE as she was originally put. I still think Shuhua should be lower than everyone here except maybe Sakura since she's quite literally tone deaf, but your ranking makes much more sense. The only thing I would really change is that Yunjin is absolutely not better than Seulgi. There's an argument for Winter and Jihyo to be had but the only thing she has over Seulgi is head voice, but this is a support ranking, and I think Seulgi (and likely Jihyo) are more supported than Yunjin. Is there enough material to deem Giselle at a C- and definitively better than Nayeon? I feel like she hasn't sung enough to be able to tell how good she is but I suppose if we're going by support alone that could make sense.
This isn't about our beloved idols or the video, but I want to say this to you, Minty Sana: You've always been one of the most unbiased RUclipsrs (in the k-pop community) and one of my favorites indeed. You know how to make a good ranking and list. You have some of the most agreeable rankings. I totally approve of Seulgi being moved to Mid Tier 5, she's super satisfying to watch. I agree with Ryujin being a Low Tier 5, I just love the way she dances. I agree with Chaeyoung being a Low Tier 7 instead of a Mid Tier 7, she's pretty stiff. But, back to you, your editing is super good and the format is great too. Super unbiased and great explanations and details. I feel like people value support too little. It's a big saving grace on a vocalist. Yoohyeon has support, and Siyeon doesn't. She may have it now, Dreamcatcher is a small group, so it's hard to find updated rankings on them, but I believe Yoohyeon has had it for a while. Support is what would put her above Siyeon. Also, if this isn't too much to ask, could you rank Dreamcatcher? I really need a good unbiased ranking for my ultimate group, and you happen to be very trustworthy with that question. Also, in your opinion, who is a better vocalist? Wendy or Taeyeon? I see it as a big debate everywhere, so I'd like an answer. In my opinion, I'd say Wendy, but she's my bias and I have no idea about vocal. I'm more knowledgeable on rap and dance. So, this is more me ranting about idols now, so I better finish it up before I go off about LE SSERAFIM's comeback lol. Anyways, hope you enjoyed my sweet message and love from karomi!
Actually Siyeon has support, she was misuvaluated. Yoohyeon is low Average Siyeon mid Weak to Average SuA and JiU Low Weak to Average Handong has some grasp of support, but is inconsistent Gahyeon and Dami doesn't support
@@Lss125 My bad, shouldn’t have assumed. I saw videos from a while ago saying she didn’t have support, and some saying she does from just a little while ago, making me assume she does have it now, but didn’t back then. So, my bad, and thanks for the kind correction. I’ll make sure to remember who supports and who doesn’t for the future. God, I’m a bad Insomnia lol.
Vocal ranking is good, but dancing ranking is ... For example, no way Bae dances better than Yuna or Jisoo is a better dancer than Rose. I think there are many mistakes, but still you did a good job 💛
Evt ayrıca Lisa jisoo dan daha iyi vokalist değil vokali güzel ama jisoo seviye farkıyla önde ayrıca jisoo ya vokalist değil demiş ancak gerçek şudur ki jennie ve jisoo BİRLİKTE LİDER VOKALİSTLER hatta çoğu kaynakta seviye olarak jisoo bı tık daha önde ama ikiside yetenekli jennie vokalini istediği gibi rahatça gosterebiliyo çünkü fazla part aliyo sarkilarda ama jisoo yeteneklerini gosteremiyo yg popülerlik sırasına göre özen gösterdiği için bakın en popüler uye şu son iki senedir jisoo ve şarkılarda sonki albümde fazla part aldığını solosunun çıkıp oyuncu olduğunu neden zannediyosunuz şuan son iki yıldır populerite sıralaması şu şekilde: 1-jisoo 2-jennie 3-lisa 4-rose Lisa daha popüler diyenlerin olucak aslında genele baktığınızda Lisa bir gerisi sıralama aynı ama suda varki jisoo son iki senedir en fazla fan kitlesini aşırı derecede genişletti buda gerçek yeni yeni BP yeteneklerini rahatça göstermeye başladı özellikle jisoo ztn şuan moda alanında en popüler uye jisoo hem moda hem oyunculuk hem solo şarkıcı albüm kapakları dergi cekinleri ambassadorluk marka yüzler Kore elçisi global elçilik kozmetik moda sektörü her anlamda şuanda zirvede olduğu sonunda parladığı zamanlar umarım yg başta onu ama bütün BP kızlarını geri plana atmaz sozlesmeyi yenileyip karşımızda daha güçlü bir BP görürüz inşallah aminn
@@MIDZYwhoONCEfoundanNSWER4KISSYben bunu kastetmedim knk BP nin vokalleri çok iyi yetenekli ve güzel ama daha iyi olanlar tabikide var sıkıntı su jisoo seviye olarak vokalist ama videoda vokal olarak bile göstermemiş üstelik vokal yönünden seviye olarak eksik Lisa momo chae gibi özellikle kendi grubundan Lisayi bile vokal olarak almış gibi bişeyler yazılmış ve seviye olarak düşük olmasına rağmen Lisa jisoo nün üzerinde bu idollere bı nefretim yok saydiklarimin hepsini seviyorum ama biraz yanlışlık var listede bariz belli bunu kastettim ben çünkü bu idollerin hepsi yetenek seviyeleri vokal rap vb hepsi tescillenmiş bisekilde mnet naver gibi yabancı Kore sitelerinde kanıtlı varken sıralamada yazan seviye farkları ve idol konumları pekte doğru değil açık ve net bunu kastettim sadece hepsi değil ama yanlışlıklar var ve bı tık tarafli gibi algıladım yorumlarında okuyunca emin oldum yani knk yaaa
Something I totally cannot agree after trying to understand you. I just want to mention those I believe them agreed by the public. First, Vocal (I think most of them are about live stability): Top7 Yunjin from LeS should belong to Weak to average (No.10-20 as Nayeon, Miyeon, Rose) Top12 Giselle & 14 Kyujin should belong to Weak Vocalist (No.21-27 as Lia, Joy, Chaewon, also Top29 Jennie should belong to this line, Top32 Minnie should be a little bit lower than them) Top18 & 20 Jiwoo & Bae from Nmixx should belong to Underdeveloped to Weak/High (28-35 as Mina, Yujin & Rei from IVE) Top27 & 30 Haerin & Hyein from NJ should belong to No.36-45 in Non-Vocalist as Irene, Soyeon, Yuna Top36 Gaeul, 38 Lisa, 39 Eunchae, 41 Minji should belong to Low Non-vocalist (Top46-53)
There is a more insane piece - dance, I cannot believe... : I think Seulgi, Lisa(5) & Momo(7) are top3 even Big3 that people keep agueing and though a bit more people agree with Momo but there's not such a difference in them. (Let's discard the popularity factor) Jiwoo(2) & Ryujin(6) should belong to Tier6 (9-18) as Kyujin, Karina. Hanni(8) & Haerin(9) is a bit worse than them. Danielle(11) & Hyein(12) should belong to High Tier7(19-30) as Yujin from IVE, Winter. (NJ's ability gains a not good reputation in China, although I agree they focus more in dance and it is underestimated, I still don't think these youngsters around 16 can compete with Momo. You'll make a lot of people laugh. Yuqi (17) should belong to Mid Tier 7(31-40) From Itzy, Chaeryeong (19) should belong to Low Tier 5 (2-8) Yuna (21), Chaewon&Yunjin from LS, Jennie & Nayeon should belong to High Tier 6 (9-18) I should clarify the positions in Itzy, who's famous in dancing: Main Dancer Chaeryeong ~ Yeji > Lead Dancer Ryujin ~ Yuna, >>> Lia. Don't diss it, it's also true in fact. Mina (47), Rose (51) & Irene(52) should belong to High Tier 6 (19-30) Joy, Tzuyu (44,49) should belong to Mid Tier 6 (31-40) Dancing of Rose is similar as Jennies'. Irene&Joy is 2/3 in RV. Mina is the original main dancer as Momo, the latter is in top3, though she didn't focus it for a time, she cannot be the worst in the list. I think the writer has her preference in New Jeans, Nmixx, and dislike in RV & Twice (though she seems like a fan of Sana but she ranked her as the last 2 in vocal haha)
I am surprised with the ranking but I am not professional so I can't argue. Still, I'm enjoying Blackpink (Itzy, Twice or Ive...), whatever average or bad dancers/singers they could be. It seems to me that success is not just linked to individual ranking. Synergy, cohesion and unity are important too. Maybe more.
•Updates -
• Yunjin has Eb5/E5 in her higher register, Her supported range is A3~Bb4/B4~Eb5/E5
• Yujin (IVE) will be around Jennie and Chaeyoung, Minnie can be placed somewhere around them as an estimation too.
• Nayeon has a Solid G#3 in her lower register, Her supported Range is G#3~A4/Bb4
• Miyeon has A4/Bb4 in her mix, Her supported range is G#3/A3~A4/Bb4
• Sullyoon is a Weak to Average Vocalist, her place in this list remains the same.
• For any updates on the dance ranking, please refer to the below document.
- Dance Document ~
docs.google.com/document/d/1oiIblgTcOX0dmO2edqZ_yk6epR_E4bAOgva2f7n9CwY/edit?usp=sharing
There is no tier in dance, it's just made by someone
@@davakdks if it was made by someone, then it began to exist. Please stop trying to ignore the facts
Jihyo > Yunjin, Jihyo has a better low register and her mix is much more solid compared to Yunjin, on her tour she has had quite a few solid B4s, Yunjin only beats Jihyo in HV
@@davakdks isn't everything in this world made by humans ? ( except for natural components) Even the device you are holding rn is made by someone, that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist lmao
Miyeon has A4/Bb4 ryt so why it's written as (Bb4)
no way chaeryeong is below sakura and shuhua in vocal
@@aidentai5867 sakura and shuhua are the worst vocalists in their respective groups. Chaeryoung is the temporary main vocalist of itzy. How can u say that😅
@@zyozyo24 temporary main vocalist ? Yes she is better than sakura and shuhua but she could never be in a vocal line
@@elfy2006 chaeryoung is infact a temporary vocalist. I don't think you have heard itzy songs. Don't worry. You should see Mr vampire and untouchable. Chaeryoung will prove herself there :)
@@zyozyo24 don't worry. I stan them.
She cant improve herself with straining notes every stage. It'll make it worse @@zyozyo24
no matter whats the updates about vocal category with the new groups, i knew that wendy will remains at number 1 tho, the finest vocalist in kpop today
Not in kpop... Ailee and a few other singers are better... But for Kpop group... Especially 3rd gen.. Wendy is the best.
@@somebodygill8666that's why they said in kpop 💀💀
@@solinkdc2645 AILEE and the few other singers that I am taking about ARE IN KPOP.
@@somebodygill8666 kpop.... today
@@しかすたかAilee still sings
NMIXX is such an all rounder group.
Haewon : 3rd (vocals) - 16th (dance)
Jiwoo : 18th (vocals) - 2nd (dance)
Kyujin : 14th (vocals) - 10th (dance)
Lily : 2nd (vocals) - 26th (dance)
Sullyoon : 9th (vocals) - 30th (dance)
Bae : 30th (vocals) - 20th (dance)
Out of 54 idols😮
bae is 20th in vocals, so nmixx is top 20 for vocals!!
Yeah nmixx are and also they are rookie and are competing with really talented groups so iam proud of nmixx
Top tier group
@@cutesweetdadi9495this isn't about aespa..?
@@cutesweetdadi9495
*32nd
The way all 4 members of aespa are in the top 13 of vocals is *INSANE* , their vocal capability is one of the best of this industry..
Ikrrr
aespa slays
Not in the industry but yes they are very good
They're good, but the best of this industry, no
@liana-cd9so there's a difference between the best and one of the best😊
1st in vocals = Wendy (Red Velvet)
1st in (open) dance = Seulgi (Red Velvet)
Yes, red velvet literally have the best 3th gen dancer and the best 3th gen vocalist
Also😮
2nd in vocals = Lily (NMIXX)
2nd in open style dance = Jiwoo (NMIXX)
Only one problem , *ROSÉ IS THE LEAD DANCER IN BLACKPINK WHILE JISOO & JENNIE ARE LAZY . FORGET ABOUT JISOO , SHE IS IN THE PERFECT POSITION , BUT JENNIE ??????!!!!!?!?!???!!!!! U COULD'VE GIVEN 51 TO JISOO , 50 TO JENNIE & 28 TO ROSÉ . THIS IS VERY UNFAIR TO ROSÉ*
@@dark__ssparkswhy do you comment here they talk about rvv😂
Blackpink and twice are far better than these groups
Jiwoo being at 18th in vocals and 2nd at dance
Such an all rounder
this girl isn‘t an all-rounder. Y‘all need to stop calling everyone an all-rounder. That‘s kind of an exclusive title!
@@diamondentertainmentkpop5008SHE IS AN ALL-ROUNDER!!!
Open your eyes,she outdo all your favs!!!
@diamondentertainmentkpop5008 all arounder is thrown around too much but jiwoo is definitely an all rounder. Dance, Rap, Vocals, and stage presence are all there
@@diamondentertainmentkpop5008 jiwoo, karina, and kyujin are definitely all-rounders.
Seulgi being 5th in vocals and 1st in dance 💀
Aint no way u said that jisoo is better at dancing than Rosè😅
her opinion
@@Faithismynameyeah but Jisoo is so stiff while dancing
ikr-
@@Faithismyname no they ranked according to dance tiers which is (supposed to be) accurate
@@where_is_sakii who told you so
SEULGI NEVER LEAVING TOP 5 😭💃
This is the most funny ranking ever😂😂😂......
this is one of the craziest rankings ever LOL
Let's see, according to you which is correct ranking?
Right now newjeans dancers better than kyujin kinda a joke to me ngl sorry!!
@@Rkive_thv-cr7be if you genuinely think this is a correct ranking you are insane and have no idea what skills are lmfaoo. i’m not doing all that.
What did u expect ?
# 1 vocal : Wendy
# 1 dance : Seulgi
Best kpop duo
Agreed! 🫶🫶
YESS RED VELVET SLAYS
RED VELVET AMAZING
Irene and rose is lead dencer, mina is main dancer 💀
This is about freestyle dancing. And positions doesn't mean your better.
@@singingwhale977 Oh, Ok then
@@singingwhale977 dizer que Jisso dança mais que Rosé é até crime
So? Idk about Irene but Rosé and Mina are very stiff(due to them being flexible, it’s also the case with Lia and Kazuha), they often mess up the footwork, have little control over their body power, Rosé also has problems controlling her arms and legs due to their length and more.
✨Dance✨
9. Tzuyu - 49 ranked
8. Mina - 47 ranked
7. Chaeyoung - 45 ranked
6. Jeongyeon - 40 ranked
5. Dahyun - 35 ranked
4. Sana - 34 ranked
3. Nayeon - 29 ranked
2. Momo - 7 ranked
1. Jihyo - 3 ranked
✨𝘎𝘖𝘋 𝘑𝘐𝘏𝘠𝘖 𝘚𝘓𝘈𝘠𝘌𝘋𝘋𝘋 ✨❤️
how is momo 7th?????
@@ANDODARREXJBSHS idk 🤷♀️
@@aestheticgorlmatrial It is based on open style
@@ANDODARREXJBSHSthis is based on open style, momo is the best in idol dance
i can't wait for aespa comeback !
Same🎉
aespa Will comeback on 8th may
And aespa Will realease prelerease song tomorrow 2th may
@@atikavanesa2288 yes !
Same ik they gonna slay
Aespa ranking:
13. Karina
12. Giselle
6. Winter
4. Ningning
Dance:
39. Giselle
32. Ningning
27. Winter
13. Karina
Karina is the 3 best vocal in aespa
@@kpopstan636 Giselle is stronger vocally than Karina. Her vocal range is wider.
@@beautiful4816 Karina’s range is wider, Giselle has less materials. Gis > Rina, because Giselle is better in the range of A4/Bb4
@@Minty_Sana oh ok bc people say that she better and I thought she was
@@Minty_Sana giselle and karina are literally at the same level, giselle just being a little more consistently open in her mix, but karina having so many good moments as well, plus karina having better lows than giselle at G#3
Lisa vocal is better than jisoo?😅
No bro.
Yea Lisa’s voice is way better your right
No.
Never
@@manupate7986no, Jisoo is a powerfull vocalist with a range C+ (In CVT) she can support C5 and D5.
Seulgi ace 1st in dance and 5th in vocal 💛
If she can rap, write, and compose then yeah she's an ace!
Nmixx being in top 20 for vocals and top 30 for dance
Slayyyyyy
At last someone appreciate how great Seulgi is in dancing
A lot of people do though…
OK but kyujin at 17 years being at fifteenth in vocals and 10th at dance
Even though yeri and Irene are ranked low in vocals (based off support), I think they still have such a great sense of musicality in terms of music key, harmonies, layers, stability, and lyricism (for yeri)
Seulgi is so talented❤️
Wendy 1st on vocal no surprise there. I know her dance kept improving but 18th on dance. Demmm. The improvement is crazy. Ace sonseungwan 💙💙💙
dance was a lil too crazy wrong imo but ye she’s very good!
The dance ranking was crazy omg😂
Truth hurts btw 🎉
@@xreyishereI’ve seen other rankings that say much different. How can we know which one is “true”?
@@riahlexington there are few facts there, but others are wrong
@@riahlexingtoncác bảng xếp hạng theo abcde, không có dẫn chứng là sai sự thật. Bảng này có độ uy tín cao
No way you put Ros’e that low in dance
JIWOOO YASSSSS BABEEEE ! no 2 for dancing while still a young group !
nmixx justt slayy !
2 & 3 - haely
2 - jiwoo
Already know seulgi will top vocal and dance
1st in dance
5th in vocal
Haewon being the all rounder 16th at dance and 3th in vocals
Everyone at NMIXX is an All Rounder!
Will never regret her being my bias 🤍🤍🤍
She’s not that strong in rap
rose #51 in DANCE??? u're probably joking right now because WHAT
Based in open style dance but I think she should be 50th
Rose is High Tier 7
What’s the problem? Don’t tell me, “she’s lead dancer” because that doesn’t justify it.
Jihyo being 8th in vocal and 3rd in dance. Our GODDD is INSANE 🤩
Especially in the fact that she's JYPs
how can jisoo and chaeryong be the weakest vocals (in their groups) if they are the lead vocalists
how can rosè be the weakest dance (in their groups) if she is the lead dancer
Chaeryong is sub vocalist tho
Bp is rap based group and jisoo has weakest vocals among them along with lisa bruhh
Positions don’t mean shit. Jihyo is the 2nd best dancer in her group yet she doesn’t have a dance position, Yuqi is the 2nd best vocalist and she doesn’t even have lead vocal ect. Chaer is sub vocalist and Jisoo isn’t a good vocalist, she just has an attractive voice. Rosé is stiff, dances awkwardly(due to her long limbs), has problem controlling her body and her power, often messes up the footwork and more.
Chaer is my itzy bias and Rosé is my bp bias so whatever you say idk
@@MIDZYwhoONCEfoundanNSWER4KISSYgirl… JIHYO ISNT the best in twice, she doesn’t have a better technique, footwork, projecting and clean lines than Momo, Jihyo is a really good dancer but not the best in twice.
Rosé is 2nd on her group, she isn’t “stiff” footwork, body lines, angles, fluidity, insolations in all of this she is good + she is a one of the greatest performers
@@Twinkzyss she is stiff, and she doesn’t have good footwork. Jihyo and Momo are interchangeable
hanni is truly one to look out for!! main vocal AND main dancer of her group???? truly the next it girl
Red velvet and Aespa slay
Liz > rosé for me but it’s interchangeable
What the heck? I had a stroke
No you are just biased
Was waiting for rap rank :’) good video btw, it just show to some people how some idol are underrated or overrated in some categories
Không có rap rank, chỉ có vocal, dance. Tất cả bảng xếp hạng rap đều là bịa đặt 🙁
I respect your work and omg im so surprised that Chaeryeong is so low in vocals and that Momo is below Jihyo 😨 I am sor proud of Jiwoo being second but I somehow always knew since O.O she was such a powerful dancer
What surprises you? Did you expect Chaeryeong to have a higher place in vocal?
@@Rkive_thv-cr7beyeah because I know nothing about vocals I just started learning recently, I wasn't expecting her on like the top 20 ofc but just not 50th
@@solinkdc2645 I don't understand much vocal either, but there are videos explaining why Chaeryeong is in the top 50
Selugi deserves more 5th at vocal 1st in dance
Our talented queen
Newjeans being a great dance group
ofc nmixx and redvelvet being amazing
Hanni 8th in dance is everything
The fact that it is both rv members at top 1 for both categories their talent doesnt get recognized becuase of those dozen members ( yeri improved a lot)
which dozen? There's a lot..
TWICE 3 or 4
LE SSERAFIM 2
ITZY 1 (she's the dozen's dozen cuz she's better than most of dozens in dancing)
NMIXX 0 (I'd say none cuz all of them are good imo, even Bae)
IVE 1 (Leeseo is Wonyoung younger version)
RV 1
BP 1
the way yeri become the last at dance and seulgi become the first at dance
Red velvet on top ❤
nayeon is absolutely better than jennie in dance 😭😭😭
It's open style
@@marangelysgonzalez8203 in open style nayeon better than hennie
@@swiglies6418 jennie is improve
when jennie wants she can EAT
Vocal:
1)Liz
2)Yujin
3)Rei
4)Gaeul
5)Wonyoung
6)Leseo
Rap:
1)Rei
2)Gaeul
3)Yujin
4)Leeseo
5)Wonyoung
6)Liz
Dance:
1)Yujin
2)Gaeul
3)Leeseo
4)Liz
5)Wonyoung
6)Rei
Yujin is not ready to leave top 3!
Jihyo is really THAT girl, the better vocalist and best dancer in Twice ❤
ALL ROUNDER JIWOO APRECIATION 🔥
For me Twice and Ive are the vocal queens✨
And of course I don't know about dance queens but Momo and Jihyo are the Emperesses of Dancing 💖
🔴IT'S MY OPINION
CHAERYOUNG IS BETTER VOCALIST THAN SAKURA(i think sakura must be the last,no hate I love her)
Jihyo being 8th in vocals and 3rd in dance
all new jeans members came under 15 in dance it shows new jeans is the best dance group
but many people will disagree this becuase their dance steps is not hard as itzy nmixx but their choreogrphy is based on open style thats why they are good at dancing
Actually NJ dance is the hardest, it's not fully coordinated dance but every member have different move when they keep in sincronisation
can you do part 2 including rap and sp??🙂
And visual
@@P.a.l.e.s.t.i.n.e visual isn't a talent💀🤌🏻
@@annamathew7096 yes but what if we just want to know??
@@gwiwiin then search how much % each idol fit on kbs, visual ranking is useless
@@guigzsgoogle doesn’t give the answer right away, we have to look through stuff which is quite a waste of time if we don’t find it
Minty slaying as usual.
But i have some disagreements
• I don't think you should use Underdeveloped to Weak, this isn’t a real Tier.
• I don't think you should put Yujin/Rei/Minnie in a different tier as Mina/Chaeyoung (I didn't said Jennie, because she could be a really low w, but That's arguable), they are the same.
• Liz doesn't have G#3/A3 - A4, her supported range is A3 - A4/Bb4, she has never supported a G#3.
• Hyein is Weak tier and stronger than Haerin imo.
• Chaewon has enough development for say she has A3/Bb3 on her supported range.
• Yunjin has supported head voice up to G#5 (at best) (but I don't know how consistent her hv is.)
Mina jennie and chaeyoung all were weak at a time their just less consistent they have a support range arguably weak but lack engagement with their diaphragm, undeveloped are those who haven't supported but are relaxed its unfair to put people who's support is inconsistent there because they have actually supported, Liz has supported G#3 but since Debut its debatable, haerin is the second best Vocalist in New jeans ,yunjin head voice is extremely consistent but she supported Eb5/E5 in head voice no more no less.
@@katykim not sure about Rei, but Yujin and Minnie have occiasional moments of support too, and are more than "just relaxed", and that is the reason why I said they should be on the same level as Jennie, Mina, Chaeyoung.
@@katykim the weak tier already encompasses the differences between support, low weak is for those who have had occasional support or that is extremely inconsistent and shallow (Mina, Chaeyoung and jennie), mid weak is for those who have shown support more than low weak and is less inconsistent, but not enough to be high weak (Sinb, Yoon and Yeji), and the high weak show almost all the time shallow support but have some inconsistent moments (Chaewon, Joy and Lia), no need to invent another tier
@@reinaldolemus169 Sinb and the trio aren't weak tho
@@Oliver-uz1fs They reanalyzed them and the three were left as Mid Weak (E), since they do not meet the standard of an E+
Anyone who states or believes Soyeon has weak vocals just proves how little they know about her and gidle. Soyeon could EASILY be a main vocalist if she wanted to.
Lisa should be higher in the dance category
Woah Jihyo beated Momo in Dancing 😱🤯
this is not an accurate ranking
Yes, unfortunately it is biased
@@littlered444It's accurate
@@Hrts.4.itzyyyNot biased, it's based on open style
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO REPLY TO COMMENTS AND SAY THIS IS BASED ON OPEN STYLE?
NMIXX is such an Insane Group
In Vocals
All 6 members in Top 20
3 members in top 10
Nd 2 members In Top 3!!
In Dance
All 6 members r minimum at level High Tier 7!! (Which is the level of best dancer in many groups)
Haewon being Low Tier 6
Kyujin High 6 ranked in Top 10
Nd Jiwoo Taking 2nd Spot Overall with her level of Low Tier 5 making her One of the best dancers in 4th Gen!!
Truly Amazing
NMIXX is such an All Rounded Group
Even in Rap though not as strong as their Dance nd Vocals , Still is quite good and all 6 members have shown the potential as rappers while Jiwoo Being Good at Rapping
Kyujin Sullyoon Haewon Bae nd Lily have proved they can rap too in their Videos!!
Nd Btw Not Newjeans being one of the best dance groups in 4th gen!!
jesus christ this makes me glad that kpop stans arent in charge of kpop idols
- the mysterious "support tiers" r so useless bc support isnt even the most important part of singing. theres so many other things important to singing like pitch, vibrato, clarity, agility, etc.
- the dance "tiers" r absolute trash bc theyre based on open style (which is very different from kpop dancing, which is why chaeryeong who is arguably top 5 idol dancer) and they group together a lot of dancers of very different skill levels to the same tier (like it groups weak dancers like jeongyeon with stronger dancers like sana)
I think kpop idols should be ranked as performers, not dancers. Dancing is part of performing and it's very important, but if someone dances well with stiff or bad facial expressions, even if their dancing is great, they're not good as a performer.
Exactly.
Momo twice deserves to be number 1 in the dance ranking she's better than anyone else this is insulting
Seulgi number 1 in dance??? Bro Lisa and momo-
They arent half as good lmao yes they are in top 10 but not number one 💀
@@WoNYOUngfallingoffaBigbIgStAGe ur opinion babe 😘 I was stating a fact... Momo and Lisa r better luv 😔
@@amelialalisa its not an opinion its a fact seulgi is better lol sad you cant handle the truth🫶😙
@@WoNYOUngfallingoffaBigbIgStAGe sure... Go cry to ur Plastic wonyoung pick me 😂😂😂
open style~ NOT IDOL DANCE OMH
Jisoo and Jennie better than Rosé?? ARE YOU OK BRO
in dance*
Momo is the Queen of dance
You put her in 7 place
Who are you 😢
Bro 7th place is amazing😭
it’s based on o p e n s t y l e
Ofc red velvet are the true queens
Aight so average placement:
Vocals:
Aespa: 8,75
Nmixx: 11
Red Velvet: 22,6
NewJeans: 28
Twice: 31,33
(S)I-DLE: 31,4
Blackpink: 31,5
LE SSERAFIM: 32,2
Ive: 36,67
Itzy: 37
Dance:
NewJeans: 11 (omg, I was not aware of that at all)
Nmixx: 17,33
Itzy: 18,4
Aespa: 27,75
(S)I-DLE: 28,6 (huh, I expected them to be lower)
LE SSERAFIM: 29
Twice: 32,11
Blackpink: 33,5
Red Velvet: 33,8
Ive: 40,5 (saved by Yujin💀)
My fav:
1. Itzy
2. Blackpink
3. Nmixx
4. Aespa
5. (G)I-DLE with 6 members
6. LE SSERAFIM (surpassed TWICE with this comeback)
7. TWICE
8. Ive
9. Red Velvet
10. NewJeans
11. (S)I-DLE with 5 members
NMIXX ATEEEEE !
Nmixx and red velvet best groups
Omg i cannot with this storage i already used up im troubling 😭 very hard work you did you deserve all the views wait seulgi is mid tier 5 ?
For now, yes
@@Minty_Sana omg i already believe she is mid 5
The lowest Mid T5, for now
Shuhua and Sakura being higher than ANY of the ive members vocal wise is such a joke 💀
the dance ranking💀
This is pretty accurate, but imo vocals would be like this
1. Wendy (B+)
2. Lily (B-/B)
3. Haewon (B-)
4. Ningning (C+/B-)
5. Yunjin (C/C+)
6. Seulgi (C)
7. Winter (C)
8. Jihyo (C-/C)
9. Sullyoon (C-)
10. Jeongyeon (D+/C-)
11. Giselle (D+/C-)
12. Karina (D+)
13. Kyujin (D+)
14. Nayeon (D+)
15. Jiwoo (D/D+)
16. Miyeon (D)
17. Rosé (D)
18. Liz (D)
19. Hanni (D)
20. Bae (D-)
21. Lia (E+/D-)
22. Joy (E+/D-)
23. Yuqi (E+/D-)
24. Haerin (E+/D-)
25. Chaewon (E+/D-)
26. Danielle (E+)
27. Yeji (E+)
28. Mina (E+)
29. Chaeyoung (E)
30. Hyein (E)
31. Jennie (E-)
32. Eunchae (F+)
33. Minnie (F+)
34. Yujin (F+)
35. Tzuyu (F+)
36. Chaeryeong (F+)
37. Minji (F+)
38. Rei (F+)
39. Gaeul (F+)
40. Yuna (F+)
41. Jisoo (F+)
42. Wonyoung (F/F+)
43. Leeseo (F/F+)
44. Soyeon (F/F+)
45. Irene (F/F+)
46. Yeri (F/F+)
47. Shuhua (F/F+)
48. Sana (F)
49. Lisa (F)
50. Ryujin (F)
51. Dahyun (F)
52. Kazuha (F-/F)
53. Momo (F-)
54. Sakura (F-)
Agree. No idea how Sakura and Shuhua got so high on their ranking, and Wonyoung absolutely isn't as far from the others in IVE as she was originally put. I still think Shuhua should be lower than everyone here except maybe Sakura since she's quite literally tone deaf, but your ranking makes much more sense.
The only thing I would really change is that Yunjin is absolutely not better than Seulgi. There's an argument for Winter and Jihyo to be had but the only thing she has over Seulgi is head voice, but this is a support ranking, and I think Seulgi (and likely Jihyo) are more supported than Yunjin.
Is there enough material to deem Giselle at a C- and definitively better than Nayeon? I feel like she hasn't sung enough to be able to tell how good she is but I suppose if we're going by support alone that could make sense.
Not sure regarding Minnie but Yujin is definitely better than Jennie/Chaeyoung
I guess Minnie had supported a few times?
I saw it somewhere being mentioned I don’t quite remember
@@Minty_Sanayour ranking is so stupid
Jennie must go all the way in the dance :33
Wow. Nmixx over all rankings are really impressive.
the dance list is definitely a list
Wendy ace and all rounder, vocal queen 🔥🥰
12:55 How tf is Momo only 7th, she should be number 1
OMG!! I DON'T BELIEVE THE VIDEO IS GOING TO COME OUT IN 3 HOURS!!! I CAN'T WAIT!!!
I think she loves nmixx, which is why she puts them in the first ranks
Lily deserve that, go girll! 😩
Gigi being main rapper but 13 in vocals
This isn't about our beloved idols or the video, but I want to say this to you, Minty Sana:
You've always been one of the most unbiased RUclipsrs (in the k-pop community) and one of my favorites indeed. You know how to make a good ranking and list. You have some of the most agreeable rankings. I totally approve of Seulgi being moved to Mid Tier 5, she's super satisfying to watch. I agree with Ryujin being a Low Tier 5, I just love the way she dances. I agree with Chaeyoung being a Low Tier 7 instead of a Mid Tier 7, she's pretty stiff. But, back to you, your editing is super good and the format is great too. Super unbiased and great explanations and details. I feel like people value support too little. It's a big saving grace on a vocalist. Yoohyeon has support, and Siyeon doesn't. She may have it now, Dreamcatcher is a small group, so it's hard to find updated rankings on them, but I believe Yoohyeon has had it for a while. Support is what would put her above Siyeon. Also, if this isn't too much to ask, could you rank Dreamcatcher? I really need a good unbiased ranking for my ultimate group, and you happen to be very trustworthy with that question. Also, in your opinion, who is a better vocalist? Wendy or Taeyeon? I see it as a big debate everywhere, so I'd like an answer. In my opinion, I'd say Wendy, but she's my bias and I have no idea about vocal. I'm more knowledgeable on rap and dance. So, this is more me ranting about idols now, so I better finish it up before I go off about LE SSERAFIM's comeback lol. Anyways, hope you enjoyed my sweet message and love from karomi!
Taeyeon is quite better afaik
Actually Siyeon has support, she was misuvaluated.
Yoohyeon is low Average
Siyeon mid Weak to Average
SuA and JiU Low Weak to Average
Handong has some grasp of support, but is inconsistent
Gahyeon and Dami doesn't support
@@Lss125 My bad, shouldn’t have assumed. I saw videos from a while ago saying she didn’t have support, and some saying she does from just a little while ago, making me assume she does have it now, but didn’t back then. So, my bad, and thanks for the kind correction. I’ll make sure to remember who supports and who doesn’t for the future. God, I’m a bad Insomnia lol.
@@Minty_Sana Thank you! Maybe shouldn’t have been biased there. Thanks for the facts. :)
@@i.nthezoneTaeyeon is really better. Tbh Wendy mix is like High AA level, She is Just in Low P due to her developed registers (Lower and upper)
sakura is like 10 times worse than momo vocally
Wendy and Seulgi 🔥
The main slayer
rv first place for both categories 😩
This list is seriously wrong.
the fact that this was uploaded on my birthday-
Vocal ranking is good, but dancing ranking is ... For example, no way Bae dances better than Yuna or Jisoo is a better dancer than Rose. I think there are many mistakes, but still you did a good job 💛
Evt ayrıca Lisa jisoo dan daha iyi vokalist değil vokali güzel ama jisoo seviye farkıyla önde ayrıca jisoo ya vokalist değil demiş ancak gerçek şudur ki jennie ve jisoo BİRLİKTE LİDER VOKALİSTLER hatta çoğu kaynakta seviye olarak jisoo bı tık daha önde ama ikiside yetenekli jennie vokalini istediği gibi rahatça gosterebiliyo çünkü fazla part aliyo sarkilarda ama jisoo yeteneklerini gosteremiyo yg popülerlik sırasına göre özen gösterdiği için bakın en popüler uye şu son iki senedir jisoo ve şarkılarda sonki albümde fazla part aldığını solosunun çıkıp oyuncu olduğunu neden zannediyosunuz şuan son iki yıldır populerite sıralaması şu şekilde:
1-jisoo
2-jennie
3-lisa
4-rose
Lisa daha popüler diyenlerin olucak aslında genele baktığınızda Lisa bir gerisi sıralama aynı ama suda varki jisoo son iki senedir en fazla fan kitlesini aşırı derecede genişletti buda gerçek yeni yeni BP yeteneklerini rahatça göstermeye başladı özellikle jisoo ztn şuan moda alanında en popüler uye jisoo hem moda hem oyunculuk hem solo şarkıcı albüm kapakları dergi cekinleri ambassadorluk marka yüzler Kore elçisi global elçilik kozmetik moda sektörü her anlamda şuanda zirvede olduğu sonunda parladığı zamanlar umarım yg başta onu ama bütün BP kızlarını geri plana atmaz sozlesmeyi yenileyip karşımızda daha güçlü bir BP görürüz inşallah aminn
@@swagqueen8589JISOO is only a lead vocalist because bp is a weak group when it comes to vocals.
@@MIDZYwhoONCEfoundanNSWER4KISSYben bunu kastetmedim knk BP nin vokalleri çok iyi yetenekli ve güzel ama daha iyi olanlar tabikide var sıkıntı su jisoo seviye olarak vokalist ama videoda vokal olarak bile göstermemiş üstelik vokal yönünden seviye olarak eksik Lisa momo chae gibi özellikle kendi grubundan Lisayi bile vokal olarak almış gibi bişeyler yazılmış ve seviye olarak düşük olmasına rağmen Lisa jisoo nün üzerinde bu idollere bı nefretim yok saydiklarimin hepsini seviyorum ama biraz yanlışlık var listede bariz belli bunu kastettim ben çünkü bu idollerin hepsi yetenek seviyeleri vokal rap vb hepsi tescillenmiş bisekilde mnet naver gibi yabancı Kore sitelerinde kanıtlı varken sıralamada yazan seviye farkları ve idol konumları pekte doğru değil açık ve net bunu kastettim sadece hepsi değil ama yanlışlıklar var ve bı tık tarafli gibi algıladım yorumlarında okuyunca emin oldum yani knk yaaa
Imagine being top 5 in both categories cough cough Seulgi
Something I totally cannot agree after trying to understand you. I just want to mention those I believe them agreed by the public.
First, Vocal (I think most of them are about live stability):
Top7 Yunjin from LeS should belong to Weak to average (No.10-20 as Nayeon, Miyeon, Rose)
Top12 Giselle & 14 Kyujin should belong to Weak Vocalist (No.21-27 as Lia, Joy, Chaewon, also Top29 Jennie should belong to this line, Top32 Minnie should be a little bit lower than them)
Top18 & 20 Jiwoo & Bae from Nmixx should belong to Underdeveloped to Weak/High (28-35 as Mina, Yujin & Rei from IVE)
Top27 & 30 Haerin & Hyein from NJ should belong to No.36-45 in Non-Vocalist as Irene, Soyeon, Yuna
Top36 Gaeul, 38 Lisa, 39 Eunchae, 41 Minji should belong to Low Non-vocalist (Top46-53)
There is a more insane piece - dance, I cannot believe... :
I think Seulgi, Lisa(5) & Momo(7) are top3 even Big3 that people keep agueing and though a bit more people agree with Momo but there's not such a difference in them. (Let's discard the popularity factor)
Jiwoo(2) & Ryujin(6) should belong to Tier6 (9-18) as Kyujin, Karina. Hanni(8) & Haerin(9) is a bit worse than them.
Danielle(11) & Hyein(12) should belong to High Tier7(19-30) as Yujin from IVE, Winter. (NJ's ability gains a not good reputation in China, although I agree they focus more in dance and it is underestimated, I still don't think these youngsters around 16 can compete with Momo. You'll make a lot of people laugh.
Yuqi (17) should belong to Mid Tier 7(31-40)
From Itzy, Chaeryeong (19) should belong to Low Tier 5 (2-8)
Yuna (21), Chaewon&Yunjin from LS, Jennie & Nayeon should belong to High Tier 6 (9-18) I should clarify the positions in Itzy, who's famous in dancing: Main Dancer Chaeryeong ~ Yeji > Lead Dancer Ryujin ~ Yuna, >>> Lia. Don't diss it, it's also true in fact.
Mina (47), Rose (51) & Irene(52) should belong to High Tier 6 (19-30)
Joy, Tzuyu (44,49) should belong to Mid Tier 6 (31-40)
Dancing of Rose is similar as Jennies'. Irene&Joy is 2/3 in RV. Mina is the original main dancer as Momo, the latter is in top3, though she didn't focus it for a time, she cannot be the worst in the list.
I think the writer has her preference in New Jeans, Nmixx, and dislike in RV & Twice (though she seems like a fan of Sana but she ranked her as the last 2 in vocal haha)
Lisa now knows how to support so she would be higher
Liz should be in the top 10 in singing
is it just me or anyone else have a feeling that Wendy will come first on the vocal list
i'm MY but need to say this how tf mina is 8/9 in DANCE💀
No rap category?
My phone’s storage was on the verge of crying
@@Minty_Sana how about a part 2 including only rap ?
not evrryone can rap
@@NingKook_ Stage Presence too?
@@Minty_Sana oh
I am surprised with the ranking but I am not professional so I can't argue. Still, I'm enjoying Blackpink (Itzy, Twice or Ive...), whatever average or bad dancers/singers they could be. It seems to me that success is not just linked to individual ranking. Synergy, cohesion and unity are important too. Maybe more.
SLAYYYY Minty!! omg I was missing the long videos so much
Blackpink queens ❤
Yeri better than sakura , shuhua , kazuha & gaeul
wait how come yeri is low when she is confident in singing unlike others few spots mentioned after her
æspa for ever 💫💞
SEULGI & WENDY SLAYSS
Rosé 16th in Vocal and Chaeryeong 19th in dance 😂😂😂