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  • Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
  • Star Trek The Next Generation Yesterday's Enterprise Season 3 Episode 63

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  • @Josh_Fredman
    @Josh_Fredman 4 года назад +1014

    I'm 37 and I try not to get into arguments on the Internet about pointless stuff anymore, but there are SO MANY people in the comments here saying "Why doesn't the Enterprise just keep firing all their phasers and torpedoes instead of only firing a couple times?" Well, there are two answers to that:
    1. Some of it is left to the imagination. To make good drama, you don't have to--and shouldn't--show every detail. You have to know what to include and what to leave out. We're supposed to trust that Captain Picard knew what he was doing. The Enterprise fired its weapons exactly as much as it should have. Was all of it depicted onscreen? That's up to your imagination. This is a problem with a lot of action movies nowadays: They think that big fiery explosions everywhere all the time makes a battle more "epic." It doesn't. Tight pacing and a strong narrative make a battle more epic. Just look at The Wrath of Khan: The Enterprise fires its phasers only three times in the climactic battle in the Mutara Nebula (and its torpedoes twice). Most of the battle is the tense pacing, and the storytelling of a game of cat and mouse.
    2. Phasers aren't magic. I mean, okay, they're fictional, but in real life most applications requiring large bursts of power have a recharge time. It's quite a science to know when to release that energy for maximal effect. The distance and aspect of the Klingon ships would have been very important. Given these considerations, it makes sense to hold your fire until it can do the most good. Otherwise you're wasting energy you can't replace, and likely contributing to system overheating. The torpedoes are similar: They too would have a reloading time, and presumably there would be an optimal firing range, neither too close nor too far away, for their guidance systems to have the highest accuracy while affording minimal evasion time to the enemy.

    • @alanfrost75
      @alanfrost75 4 года назад +75

      Not to engage in an argument here, but here is my counter argument :D
      1. Drama is nice, but not at the expense of any credibility. I mean imagine making a movie where there is a war scene and a squad is getting battered and shot to bits while they discuss their options calmly in the middle of the battle field. Then the sergeant occasionally and very dramatically tells one of them to fire. I also think that of all the shows (though all Trek fell into this trap) TNG was the worst in this respect. Even in TOS people had more of a tendency to just do their job.
      2. I think they outlined official specifications for these ships. I remember we used them in Star Trek roleplaying games many moons ago. And you could fucking fire A LOT, and you could fire phasers and photons simultaneously or nearly simultaneously. So while this sounds nice, I do not think it is based in the "reality" of this world.
      I think they did it out of an exaggerated sense of drama. I love TNG, but not this part.

    • @somebuddyX
      @somebuddyX 4 года назад +57

      3. They had enough money and time to do exactly what they had on screen, and this was even with extra money added to the budget. Principal photography took place in mid-December 1989 and it aired 19th February 1990. With that amount of time it's amazing this episode is any good at all let alone it's a classic.

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 4 года назад +5

      @@alanfrost75 well spoke, Alan.

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 4 года назад +18

      @Ben Finny She didnt have to move away at all.
      She had the energy capacity to either buff her shields a ton, or to dish out *alot* more phaser & torp power.
      Why distract the Klingons when you can outright *destroy them?*
      Which, let's not kid ourselves, the E-D was more than capable of doing.

    • @Josh_Fredman
      @Josh_Fredman 4 года назад +20

      @@somebuddyX That's a good point. Budget limitations definitely force more to be left to the imagination. I think I saw in a TNG documentary that filming each individual shot of that glorious 6-foot Enterprise D model cost about $10,000. They filmed a bunch in this episode, and tried to get their money's worth by reusing a bunch of those shots (especially those Klingon ship shots) for the rest of the series. But it must have been an especially expensive episode to make, especially when considering the uniform changes, set redesign, and extra extras.

  • @facelessman9224
    @facelessman9224 2 года назад +268

    When Picard personally fires the phasers they get a 2x damage multiplier.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Год назад +15

      nope it's 10X not 2x he's not tasha🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @ihavegymnastics
      @ihavegymnastics 7 месяцев назад

      LOL

    • @arcantis8964
      @arcantis8964 4 месяца назад +4

      and the klingons got "Battle Rage" afte rone of their ships died ^^

  • @theflyxx
    @theflyxx 2 года назад +335

    “Captain’s log supplemental: Never use photon torpedo dispersal pattern Sierra ever again.”

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin 2 года назад +11

      Star Trek Picard: _"Captain's blog... Supplements! ... Daily. Don't forget."_

    • @1978rharris
      @1978rharris 2 года назад +4

      I want to like this comment, but it’s at 47, and we’ll leave it at that huh?

    • @LandSharkEatsU
      @LandSharkEatsU Год назад +4

      Yeah Sierra sucks, to be certain.

    • @johnritcher5751
      @johnritcher5751 Год назад +5

      It weakened the shields and helped destroy that target.

    • @skyborne80
      @skyborne80 9 месяцев назад +6

      Janeway used Sierra in Basics, Part 1

  • @theflyxx
    @theflyxx 4 года назад +534

    If I were a crewman on the Enterprise, I would avoid Deck 14 at all costs during battles.

    • @jasonparis5635
      @jasonparis5635 2 года назад +39

      Not to mention exploding panels during a entire battle.

    • @Canadianvoice
      @Canadianvoice 2 года назад +41

      Deck 14 is composed of 2,545,656 explorable panels so I'm not surprised.

    • @ThunderAppeal
      @ThunderAppeal 2 года назад +10

      You said it.
      I was there, its not a fun ride.

    • @brandonhill2183
      @brandonhill2183 2 года назад +17

      Deck 1 is usually never damaged.

    • @collincovid6950
      @collincovid6950 2 года назад +5

      On the previous Enterprise it was to avoid being one of the Away Parties, as they always got polished off

  • @matthewsager925
    @matthewsager925 4 года назад +575

    "We have to make sure that history never forgets the name......Enterprise."
    One of the best lines of the series.

    • @AnakinMarcZaeger
      @AnakinMarcZaeger 4 года назад +11

      One of the best lines ever said that ultimately ended up never being said. :P

    • @bleirdo_dude
      @bleirdo_dude 3 года назад +1

      Yes & yes.

    • @LTDANMAN44
      @LTDANMAN44 2 года назад +2

      I LOVE THIS

    • @jerseykaari
      @jerseykaari 2 года назад +1

      If this timeline were to continue, history would surely remember.
      But it would be a history written in Klingon, and it would be about that time they blew it to smithereens.
      Kind of like the way we remember the Bismarck or the Yamato.

    • @Pally356
      @Pally356 2 года назад +2

      I smiled when i heard that line in Star Trek online.

  • @SGTBizarro
    @SGTBizarro 6 лет назад +1156

    I love how Patrick very subtly changed Picard's temperament and expressions for this episode. The rest of the characters play about the same as any other episode, but Picard is clearly more battle-hardened and war-weary. The slight snarl on his face after "and we must succeed" is perfect.

    • @andyh4518
      @andyh4518 6 лет назад +149

      Riker's different too. He's much more aggressive and it's clear he and Picard (who never calls him Number 1) don't get along all that well. I agree about everyone else though.

    • @williamcostigan91
      @williamcostigan91 6 лет назад +94

      Andy H The tension between Riker and Picard over certain decisions is palpable. You get the sense that the war has forced them to butt heads constantly and for Riker to question Picard's authority. I feel like Picard made some kind of decision similar to this one earlier, a "needs of the many" type thing and Riker hasn't gotten over it since.

    • @dlxmarks
      @dlxmarks 5 лет назад +53

      That's because Stewart has real acting talent. The rest of the cast was mediocre at best as is evidenced by their subsequent careers. I watched "First Contact" a few months ago and cringed as James Cromwell acted circles around everyone else.

    • @szahmad2416
      @szahmad2416 4 года назад +20

      Yeah. For comparison, go to the Mother of All Battles with the Borg. Very much out of place in a battle. Whereas here, he said fire the torpedoes Sierra pattern as if he was ordering takeout.

    • @kimmiwertz6744
      @kimmiwertz6744 4 года назад +31

      Wesley Crusher was fast tracked through StarFeet academy.

  • @jimeagle5509
    @jimeagle5509 2 года назад +128

    The engineering scene at 3:15 is underrated. LaForge knows it’s all over - tells his crew to just go. I’ll stay here til the end.

    • @DavidNicholson101
      @DavidNicholson101 Год назад +7

      I’m surprised you didn’t leave a response to my comment about Levar Burton’s acting. I whole heartedly agree. That whole scene was just intense. The dramatic music, Geordi’s slight panic, it made for a great scene. IMO the best battle in TNG.

    • @EdricLysharae
      @EdricLysharae Год назад +7

      He's a true Chief Engineer!

    • @nigelmurphy6761
      @nigelmurphy6761 9 месяцев назад +2

      Yep just like the engineers on the Titanic. Go down with the ship very nobly while standing your ground

    • @Mustang-bk4ns
      @Mustang-bk4ns 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@nigelmurphy6761- Do you know of what you speak? The Titanic was really the Olympic and it was sank by its captain Edward Smith to kill 3 crime family heads. John Jacob Astor, Isador Strauss and Jonathan Guggenheim. They reportedly were against the installment of the Federal Reserve.
      April 1912 the Titanic goes down, Dec 1913 the Fed Reserve rises which then led to their 100 year plan to destroy the USA via 3 WARS.
      WW1+2, The Cold War and the never ending "War on terror". You should research the meeting on Jekyll Island in 1910. There is a video and book called "The Monster from Jekyll Island" where the demonic 13 family heads met to discuss this

    • @whuffer5103
      @whuffer5103 6 месяцев назад +3

      I'm still bummed he didnt roll under the compartment door while it was closing

  • @mrfclarke
    @mrfclarke 5 лет назад +873

    When Riker is killed the panel near him that exploded was full of rocks. Which explains why it exploded I suppose.

    • @ricaard
      @ricaard 4 года назад +61

      Really old technology!

    • @sleazybtd
      @sleazybtd 4 года назад +136

      No. The rocks were just the shrapnel that were placed on top of the explodium.

    • @geneeverett7855
      @geneeverett7855 4 года назад +13

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @danlayson9623
      @danlayson9623 4 года назад +39

      Still laughing in 2020! 😂 it looks like coal. Steam turbine backup generator. Just go with it. 😂 *choo choo* 🚂💨💨💨😂😂

    • @700gsteak
      @700gsteak 4 года назад +43

      The rocks came out of Rikers head.

  • @Bethos1247-Arne
    @Bethos1247-Arne 2 года назад +71

    "Lets make sure history never forget the name: Enterprise." You think it can't get better or more badass.
    "That will be the day". OMG.

  • @blackdog6969
    @blackdog6969 2 года назад +194

    Picard's vault over tactical really shows how that alternate reality was different. Props to Sir Pat for pulling that off too.

    • @thisisme2476
      @thisisme2476 6 месяцев назад

      04:15 for anyone looking for it.
      Was actually quite graceful.

    • @demike3483
      @demike3483 5 месяцев назад +2

      Oi!? See him climb that rope in 1996 First contact? He was old man ripped in that movie...

    • @markfox1545
      @markfox1545 5 месяцев назад +1

      *alternative. Alternate means to switch repeatedly between two different things.

    • @pablohammerly448
      @pablohammerly448 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@markfox1545You're using alternate as a verb while the post you responded to used alternate as an adjective to refer to a reality that isn't the normal reality, i e. an alternate reality. I used to work as a proofreader and typesetter, not to mention do volunteer work as an editor and ESL (English as a Second Language) teacher. Go back to seventh grade English -- you don't know half as much about English grammar as you think you do! 😵

    • @scarboroughcyclist
      @scarboroughcyclist 4 месяца назад

      This scene actually reminds me of the description of Picard taking charge of the Stargazer after its captain and first officer were killed.

  • @daiujin
    @daiujin 6 лет назад +349

    *That will be the day*

    • @jonw.1043
      @jonw.1043 4 года назад +24

      That's my favorite fucking line in this entire show.

    • @johnnyperkins2849
      @johnnyperkins2849 4 года назад +16

      Same line spoken by John Wayne in The Searchers

    • @thomas.parnell7365
      @thomas.parnell7365 4 года назад +18

      Picard defiant until the end

    • @ronaldskoczen5228
      @ronaldskoczen5228 4 года назад +13

      That line and Picard’s badassery are exactly why this is my favorite episode of any Trek series.

    • @Jedi862001
      @Jedi862001 4 года назад +2

      He said ‘That’ll be they day!” M.R. Flugleman!.

  • @timw483
    @timw483 2 года назад +46

    Having the adversarial undertone between Picard and Riker was genius and both actors nailed it. I often wonder if an unspoken backstory was that Picard was indirectly responsible for Deanna's death and Riker, while understanding that Picard really didn't have any other option at the time, still can't forgive him.

  • @masterchief2739
    @masterchief2739 4 года назад +612

    Picard: Put us between the Ent C. Fire shots to distract, we can win this by the skin of our teeth!
    Sisko: Full Impulse speed, singe them! Fire everything at less than 500 meters!
    Janeway: FIRE EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE! BLOW UP THE WHOLE DAMN SECTOR!

    • @popmonika
      @popmonika 4 года назад +10

      Enterprise c gone. Klingons win the war!!

    • @popmonika
      @popmonika 4 года назад +42

      Archer- take my dog... Take it!!

    • @iycephoenixx4249
      @iycephoenixx4249 4 года назад +1

      Lol

    • @wellesradio
      @wellesradio 4 года назад +12

      But seriously, what would Kirk say? Were there ever any major space battles in TOS? I don’t remember any (this being pre-Star Wars), so I can’t imagine how he would engage. Older movie-era Kirk (Shatner) definitely had more than his fair share of fire fights.

    • @johnwilliamsscuba6487
      @johnwilliamsscuba6487 4 года назад +8

      Come on Picard you got to Advantage you got a better Ship Attack

  • @steverobertson1729
    @steverobertson1729 2 года назад +35

    I love the part where after Riker gets killed, Picard doesnt dwell on it but leaps over the railing to take over at tactical, and the shot of him keeping phaser fire on the klingons right to the end, even as flames envelop the bridge. He knew those precious few seconds at the end made the difference.

    • @stuntmonkey00
      @stuntmonkey00 8 месяцев назад +3

      Also: why is the com full of rocks lol.

    • @leetaeryeo5269
      @leetaeryeo5269 8 месяцев назад

      @@stuntmonkey00honestly, that’s a bit of Star Trek cheesiness that I love. I think the explanation is that it’s supposed to be bits of the consoles being completely slagged, but the real reason is likely that making the set in such a way that the consoles could be “exploded” and reassembled for future use would be too time and money inefficient, so generic debris would be used to save time and money. Just the realities of filming television where you have to use the same set repeatedly.

  • @sabiondo1629
    @sabiondo1629 4 года назад +336

    You'd think that Data in this timeline would have been modified to be a kill bot.

    • @billyboblillybob344
      @billyboblillybob344 4 года назад +43

      And that he'd have been deemed property of Starfleet Command such that every ship had at least one.

    • @AD-kv9kj
      @AD-kv9kj 4 года назад +40

      But as we all know, Kill Bots have a pre-set kill limit. You simply send wave after wave of your own men at them until they reach their limits and shut down.

    • @bryanalford9638
      @bryanalford9638 4 года назад +17

      @@AD-kv9kj A yes. The Branigan maneuver.

    • @TKDMaze92
      @TKDMaze92 4 года назад +1

      Well Data was Constructed before the events of Narrendra 3. So he wouldnt be affected by the changes of this temporary anomaly.

    • @sabiondo1629
      @sabiondo1629 4 года назад +1

      @@TKDMaze92 Yeah but some post modifications and upgrades could go a long way.

  • @ericbukley2140
    @ericbukley2140 4 года назад +130

    I love it when DATA says that the sheilds are buckling and is probably about to say that if they take another hit that they will fail..they take another hit and he stops mid sentence.

    • @themacocko6311
      @themacocko6311 4 года назад +18

      Talented writing.

    • @nicktaylor2391
      @nicktaylor2391 4 года назад +20

      "If we take... Fuck it."

    • @jamesspring4610
      @jamesspring4610 4 года назад +6

      Or: "They will not.. .(shields fail)....never mind, sir."

    • @CharlesUrban
      @CharlesUrban 4 года назад +3

      They got the idea.

    • @BrowncoatFairy
      @BrowncoatFairy 2 года назад +5

      "i have good news and bad news. the good news is you can ignore my previous statement about the shields buckling..."

  • @fluff86d
    @fluff86d 4 года назад +434

    Dispersal pattern Sierra seemed rather ineffective

    • @HowIamDriving
      @HowIamDriving 4 года назад +10

      Pattern is good, but weapons too weak.

    • @IRMentat
      @IRMentat 4 года назад +26

      Craig Given torpedo shotguns before weakening shields with phasers rarely work.
      It’s probably why the games keep saying phaser down the shields then torpedo the remains.

    • @KazeriantheVIIII
      @KazeriantheVIIII 4 года назад +5

      Agreed. Moderate damage to the Klingons shields, cmon.

    • @oculosprudentium8486
      @oculosprudentium8486 4 года назад +13

      @@HowIamDriving According to the Trek data, a photon torpedo is alleged to have the power of 10 KT (a hiroshima class warhead of WW2). But according to the plot of what we are seeing, its like throwing spitballs at the enemy.

    • @kkelly80
      @kkelly80 4 года назад +15

      Attack pattern suicide it is then.

  • @LorenHelgeson
    @LorenHelgeson 4 года назад +94

    I remember when the last episode of TNG first aired, there was a day-long event on one of the nationwide TV stations that ran a marathon with Encounter at Farpoint and the top 5 best episodes, as voted by fans.
    This episode ranked number 3 or 4. Well deserved.

    • @LorenHelgeson
      @LorenHelgeson 4 года назад +4

      For those interested, Google "Star Trek TNG Viewer's Choice marathon."

    • @juliok1923
      @juliok1923 4 года назад +10

      Ranked from 5 to 1
      RELICS
      INNER LIGHT
      YESTERDAY'S ENTERPRISE
      BEST OF BOTH WORLDS 1 AND 2

    • @LorenHelgeson
      @LorenHelgeson 4 года назад

      @@juliok1923 Yep. And with the except of Best of Both Worlds, it was my first time seeing those other three. All great episodes. I was already a big fan of Tasha - one of the stronger elements of season 1 to me. Yesterday's Enterprise made me like her even more.

    • @sigh2say
      @sigh2say 4 месяца назад

      ​@@juliok1923I think I agree with that list

  • @bobpage6597
    @bobpage6597 Год назад +31

    What I liked about this timeline - the different red alert sound the Enterprise has, and the fact that it's a continuous cycle. The red alert normally gives 3 or 4 blasts and then goes silent, with just the red lights flashing - here, the cycle is continuous. It just adds to the moment in my opinion :)

    • @chrisfoster272
      @chrisfoster272 6 месяцев назад

      Cool observation, I hadn’t noticed until now

  • @alexleonard3561
    @alexleonard3561 2 года назад +43

    I love this scene. When I watch the way Picard handles this battle, I imagine this is how he took command of the bridge of the Stargazer many years earlier.

  • @williamcostigan91
    @williamcostigan91 6 лет назад +89

    Interestingly enough and I'm surprised no one has noticed this, the timeline was always going to be changed when the C went back. Think about it, its pretty clear that the battle was over when she came forward in time, all systems down most of the bridge crew dead, she was finished, it was over. When she was sent back she presumably arrived at the exact same moment but with weapons, Shields, and engines back online. They were probably able to destroy another warbird because of that.

    • @darthimperious1594
      @darthimperious1594 4 года назад +14

      Yeah, the timeline was going to change somewhat. But the battle was still hopeless and the Enterprise C was still going to be lost. You are right in that it was likely that more Romulans would die in the attack, but it's unknown how many or if that would change the timeline significantly.

    • @davidlewis5312
      @davidlewis5312 4 года назад +22

      @@darthimperious1594 well it does significantly change. According to Sela, the C was taken not destroyed utterly and Tasha made the deal to become the Romulan Commander's war wife to save much of the crew. Making it very likely that the C left some Warbird wreckage around. Now whatever happened to them afterwards is kind of unclear. Another reason Sela needed to be in Nemesis, growls.

    • @nickyb1822
      @nickyb1822 4 года назад +2

      William Costigan unless it was a predestined event

    • @M1kec2000
      @M1kec2000 4 года назад +10

      @@davidlewis5312 I don't recall Sela ever saying the Enterprise-C was captured, only that some of the crew survived. Had Enterprise-C been taken and not destroyed, there would have been no evidence of her defense of Narendra III, the Klingons would have never known about the Enterprise's sacrifice, so the alliance between the Klingons and the Federation wouldn't have happened. Enterprise-C was destined to be destroyed in this battle, otherwise the events in this episode would have been the prime timeline

    • @M1kec2000
      @M1kec2000 4 года назад +6

      @@davidlewis5312 but I completely agree with you, Sela should have been in Nemesis

  • @alexanderjones9572
    @alexanderjones9572 2 года назад +53

    Riker “They shouldn’t be so confident, after the pasting we gave them on Archer IV.” I know this was made way before ‘Enterprise’ was thought of, but you could imagine Archer IV was named after Jonathan Archer now!

    • @Dannyvegas1701
      @Dannyvegas1701 Год назад +4

      I might be wrong, but I think Archer IV is the name that was given to the planet the NX01 crew discovered in the third episode "Strange New World".
      A nice callback to TNG on the part of the Enterprise writing team

    • @slundal
      @slundal 5 месяцев назад

      There is a throw away line in "A mirror darkly" from Enterprise's last season where it is made canon that Archer "even has a planet named after him".

  • @planckj
    @planckj 4 года назад +151

    Picard: "Let's make sure history never forgets the name...Enterprise!"
    ... *3 minutes later history is changed and nobody remembers the battle*

    • @dark1810
      @dark1810 4 года назад +14

      everyone remembers enterprise tho reguardless

    • @ashleymiskin5284
      @ashleymiskin5284 4 года назад +8

      Tasha Yar’s daughter did !!!

    • @kkelly80
      @kkelly80 4 года назад +3

      I remember...

    • @Roman-bg8zb
      @Roman-bg8zb 4 года назад +12

      Has no one thought that Picard is actually referring to Enterprise C who's going to stop klingon war due to it's sacrifice , and not D?

    • @Josh_Fredman
      @Josh_Fredman 4 года назад +11

      @@Roman-bg8zb He's not referring to any one ship. He's referring to the legacy. That's what makes it so poetic.

  • @nobodyuknow4911
    @nobodyuknow4911 2 года назад +203

    I can't help but think that Federation vessels would be much safer if they didn't build them entirely from exploding panels and foam rocks...

    • @jamesjarrait2231
      @jamesjarrait2231 2 года назад +9

      Blasphemy! They’re not foam rocks - they’re duratanium rocks.

    • @collincovid6950
      @collincovid6950 2 года назад

      Bunch of cowboy workmen

    • @WalrusWinking
      @WalrusWinking 2 года назад

      Sounds like China

    • @RedShift5
      @RedShift5 2 года назад +5

      They are too evolved for such primitive 19th century technology like circuit breakers. If you die, you die.

    • @Turtleproof
      @Turtleproof 2 года назад +1

      Haven't we learned by now? You make things go boom to get funding and syndication or Gene Siskel (before his latter years when he got wise) will say your movie or series is a geek show.
      Or Babylon 5 that was almost entirely plot and their special effects were waving stock Hollywood spotlights in the dining area.

  • @Revkor
    @Revkor 4 года назад +515

    Missed move by the writers to not have the Klingon ordering their surrender be Worf

    • @Tigerhawk30
      @Tigerhawk30 4 года назад +67

      I've thought that same thing for absolutely years. I suppose it might be arguable that Worf wouldn't have survived the attack on his planet, but still...yeah.

    • @Revkor
      @Revkor 4 года назад +11

      @@Tigerhawk30 that is IF the attack happened

    • @Revkor
      @Revkor 4 года назад +6

      @DriftZ TwoSeven um yes there would..i doubt the Kitomer attack happens in this timeline.

    • @Bear44mc
      @Bear44mc 4 года назад +7

      Kitomer happened.. So stated earlier but the turn out was different.

    • @Revkor
      @Revkor 4 года назад +9

      @@Bear44mc no neandra three happened..Kitomer might have not happened.

  • @richardched6085
    @richardched6085 5 лет назад +34

    The Galaxy class is a pretty solidly designed Battleship. It took on 3 K'Vort Battlecruisers (Reused Bird of Prey Models LOL), destroyed one and damaged another. It only went down because they held position the whole time protecting the Enterprise-C rather than maneuvering away from the Disruptor Blasts.

    • @szahmad2416
      @szahmad2416 4 года назад +3

      Exactly.

    • @develynseether4426
      @develynseether4426 4 года назад +2

      K'vort class ARE birds of prey, they are just larger versions of the B'rel class (ST3/4 & 6).

    • @geonerd
      @geonerd 4 года назад +1

      It went down because JLP refused to use its main weapons.

    • @richardched6085
      @richardched6085 4 года назад +2

      @@develynseether4426 I assume the K'Vort is far more powerful than a Bre'l. They are likely on the scale of an Excelsior class Starship (I can see 3 Excelsiors being able to take on a Galaxy class).

    • @richardched6085
      @richardched6085 4 года назад +3

      @@geonerd Idk... He fired Phaser Arrays and Photon Torpedoes. Just not to the extent we see in "Best of Both Worlds".

  • @WHR17
    @WHR17 4 года назад +65

    “Let’s make sure history never forgets the name Enterprise!!!”
    For that line alone this episode is greatness. More than makes up for all the crap everyone is bitching about!!!

    • @simbriant
      @simbriant 2 года назад +2

      I like how Picard's facial expression and the delivery of the line have the subtle, "Yea, this is a suicide mission. We're gonna die. Take as many Klingons with us as we can."

    • @greyd.99xsome
      @greyd.99xsome 2 года назад

      I remember having goosebumps hearing this line the first time.

  • @dbroder180
    @dbroder180 4 года назад +20

    Just watch this episode for the first time. Dam this is a good show. To think I was completely obsessed with star wars at the time I barely gave star trek a go. Glad I finally came around!

    • @leeannasloan2292
      @leeannasloan2292 Год назад +1

      Both are good but star trek is just such a good show to binge watch

  • @catherinesanchez1185
    @catherinesanchez1185 2 года назад +13

    I always get chills at the end of this scene with the Klingons closing in for the kill and the other Enterprise all beaten up going through the rift to their certain deaths. One of the best episodes hands down for me! Thanks for posting it!

  • @gedias1
    @gedias1 4 года назад +115

    I know that it was done for the sake of this story, but if there was a war going on for a long while, there is no way this same crew should have been together. Riker would have had his own command.

    • @durkin9664
      @durkin9664 4 года назад +11

      Geddo probably Data too.

    • @gedias1
      @gedias1 4 года назад +8

      @@durkin9664 I'm thinking they never found Data.

    • @mrmrsgamer6938
      @mrmrsgamer6938 4 года назад +6

      @@gedias1 that seemed like a likely outcome in a war torn federation, less exploration

    • @durkin9664
      @durkin9664 4 года назад +4

      Geddo I think Data was found before the Enterprise C went on it’s fateful mission.

    • @Anarchist86ed
      @Anarchist86ed 4 года назад +13

      Actually, the war would have been over long before this. The Klingons were in serious trouble and in no position to war with the federation. They would have gotten their asses kicked.

  • @frankmorales643
    @frankmorales643 4 года назад +664

    Could the Enterprise C move any slower?

    • @iycephoenixx4249
      @iycephoenixx4249 4 года назад +50

      Haven't you played sto? It's slow lol

    • @wellesradio
      @wellesradio 4 года назад +14

      Iyce Phoenixx It’s a huge ship. How long does it take to maneuver a battleship today?

    • @iycephoenixx4249
      @iycephoenixx4249 4 года назад +36

      @@wellesradio Different physics and momentum at use here

    • @iycephoenixx4249
      @iycephoenixx4249 4 года назад +11

      @@wellesradio Sto is the game btw, I'm saying I have experience with how slow it is

    • @Gunnar001
      @Gunnar001 4 года назад +55

      Frank Morales The rift was already unstable. Maybe they determined that was the fastest they could move without risking further destabilization.

  • @kris8165
    @kris8165 3 года назад +9

    Jesus..
    What an epic episode...
    Still gives me chills, decades later!!! 5 stars ⭐ all the way 😊

  • @TheRantingCabbie
    @TheRantingCabbie 4 года назад +244

    "Enemy ship is charging pew pew."
    "Raise anti pew pew and return pew pew."

    • @Gizziiusa
      @Gizziiusa 4 года назад

      your comment stinks, phew ! jk ;)

    • @DraculaCronqvist
      @DraculaCronqvist 4 года назад +6

      "Aye, Captain, returning pew pew."

    • @Trump-a-Tron
      @Trump-a-Tron 4 года назад +3

      "Initiate a Pew Research Center poll! We need to find out what they really think!"

    • @CharlesUrban
      @CharlesUrban 4 года назад +4

      @@Trump-a-Tron "Analysis complete--they think that disruptors are awesome, sir."

    • @_kyrii
      @_kyrii 3 года назад +2

      lol such an underrated comment

  • @kevoconnor145
    @kevoconnor145 4 года назад +30

    "Let's make sure, that history never forgets, the name Enterprise" 1 of my favourite lines from the entire series.

    • @HowIamDriving
      @HowIamDriving 4 года назад +2

      We need a new ship in space called Enterprise.

    • @haroldkay6303
      @haroldkay6303 4 года назад

      And mines as well.

    • @atrociousconsequences4432
      @atrociousconsequences4432 4 года назад +3

      Too bad that since this alternative timeline was erased, Jean-Luc Picard's quote was forgotten.

    • @RobertNielsen1970
      @RobertNielsen1970 4 года назад +2

      I always loved that one, along with _"That'll be the day!"_ when the Klingons order him to surrender.

    • @haroldkay6303
      @haroldkay6303 4 года назад +1

      @@RobertNielsen1970 😆 and a Lot more or laughs. 😆

  • @rayzermaniac5218
    @rayzermaniac5218 2 года назад +38

    That scene where the Enterprise D turns to face the camera, turning to protect the Enterprise C behind her, while you hear the engines slowly spinning up with the voice over of Picard saying that 3 Klingon Battlecruisers are on an intercept course is my favourite ship shot of the entire show. Back in season 3 they were still relying on a lot of stock shots. I even think that shot is a modification of a stock shot itself but it is done so well and for a change it perfectly shows you what the ship is supposed to be doing in that moment.
    It is also followed by a fantastic speech by Picard and an amazing shot of Picard at the tactical desk still trying to fight even with the bridge collapsing around him and everything catching fire.
    It is a shame that the battle is so poorly fought. I counted and the Klingons manage to get off 16 shots before The Enterprise even returns fire. Literally the one time that Picard says continual fire all phasers a Klingon ship explodes. So do that again twice more.

  • @gl1500ctv
    @gl1500ctv 4 года назад +99

    "Continue to fire all phasers"
    * klingon explodes
    Why didn't you do that to start with?

    • @MyBrainGlows
      @MyBrainGlows 2 года назад +1

      Because you NEVER start with your best attack or go super sayajn at the beginning of a battle :-D

    • @ericstaples7220
      @ericstaples7220 2 года назад +3

      Enemy ships were too far away or not damaged enough.

    • @collincovid6950
      @collincovid6950 2 года назад +3

      @@ericstaples7220 But close enough to damage the Enterprise?

    • @collincovid6950
      @collincovid6950 2 года назад +1

      If they take out one, they can take out the rest, and as for distance, if Kingons can take out Enterprise they are at a distance for Enterprise to take them out

    • @danielmccurdy862
      @danielmccurdy862 3 месяца назад

      It's all an energy arms race. Power used to fire the phasers is power you don't have in the shields. They can't effectively fight all three Cruisers without leaving Enterprise C undefended. But with that kind of firepower from the phasers, the Klingons can't really afford to ignore them, either. So they dump most of their power into their shields, take a few shots to keep the Klingons busy, and run out the clock until the Enterprise C is through.

  • @fawziekefli2273
    @fawziekefli2273 3 года назад +14

    0:40 That grimace Picard pulls just after he says that they must succeed, knowing full well the probable price of that success.

    • @rosscamonster1597
      @rosscamonster1597 2 года назад +1

      Truly one of the most underrated actors of all time. Same with Brent.

  • @pwnmeisterage
    @pwnmeisterage 6 лет назад +36

    (Data) "Power couplings severed at forward phaser banks. Attempting to bypass. Controls not responding."
    (Riker just stands there looking useless until something explodes and he dies violently)
    (Picard glances at Riker's corpse, snarls, and leaps to Riker's station - he operates the nonresponsive controls - pewpewpew - the broken phasers fire)

    • @richardched6085
      @richardched6085 5 лет назад +2

      Lololol. I just realized that Picard operated the Phasers after Data said they were offline.

    • @NoJusticeNoPeace
      @NoJusticeNoPeace 4 года назад +9

      He didn't say the phasers couldn't fire, just that the power couplings were severed. Phasers have their own batteries which get charged off the engines. Without the couplings the phasers couldn't recharge, but they still had whatever power was still left in the batteries.

    • @popmonika
      @popmonika 4 года назад +4

      They were trying to transfer power from the phasers to booster the defense. So it makes sense actually why Picard was able to fire the phasers at the end.

    • @thedeathcake
      @thedeathcake 4 года назад +2

      Plus, there are more phaser arrays located the ship. It didn't show where the phaser blast came from

  • @colehara
    @colehara 4 года назад +175

    Picard:. Set your phasers on "negotiate".

    • @themacocko6311
      @themacocko6311 4 года назад

      Lol😆

    • @JH-mo7xm
      @JH-mo7xm 4 года назад +2

      Maximum negotiate! Lol

    • @richardched6085
      @richardched6085 4 года назад +3

      Klingon ship explodes
      Picard: My apologies...

    • @dankuchar6821
      @dankuchar6821 4 года назад +2

      Kirk would have blasted the Klingons. Picard sits there and takes a beating until his ship is completely wiped out.

    • @colehara
      @colehara 4 года назад

      @@dankuchar6821
      👍

  • @BennyT_3434
    @BennyT_3434 4 года назад +153

    Fantastic episode, just wish the Ent-D was more aggressive, would have been cool if they took out the first three Klingon ships and then maybe succumbed to another wave....I'm thinking budget had a lot to do with why that didn't happen!

    • @billyboblillybob344
      @billyboblillybob344 4 года назад +10

      Quite a bit wrong with the battle scene...

    • @drzerogi
      @drzerogi 4 года назад +27

      Nah, let's not have the Klingons job that hard. The fact that the Ent-D was able to take out one ship when being jumped by 3 ships WHILE successfully protecting another is an amazing feat in and of itself.

    • @Gunnar001
      @Gunnar001 4 года назад +33

      MightyVoice Picard was forced to position the ship in direct line of fire in order to keep the Klingons off of the Enterprise-C. The ship was getting hammered by a focused barrage from 3 battle cruisers. They couldn’t maneuver or evade because doing so would leave the Ent-C exposed. The goal was to soak up as much fire for as long as possible and delay the Klingons. Getting aggressive means less power to shields and defensive systems and quickly getting torn to shreds by fierce disruptor fire.
      What was written makes sense.

    • @dhinton1
      @dhinton1 4 года назад +17

      @@Gunnar001 that is all correct. the Enterprise-D itself could have swerved and dodged and pounded them to death. the D got pounded making sure the C got through unscathed.

    • @fishtailfuture
      @fishtailfuture 4 года назад

      exactly

  • @johnk1639
    @johnk1639 4 года назад +414

    Their lack of firing back was infuriating

    • @Anarchist86ed
      @Anarchist86ed 4 года назад +43

      The Enterprise D was a fortress. The Klingons were no match for them, or the federation. The Enterprise could have outgunned all three of those ships without moving, while the enemy literally had to point its weapons at a target. Also, in canon the Klingons were in no position to wage a war with the federation and would have been soundly defeated long before this episode ever happened. Assuming the events of star trek 6 still happened, which we can assume it did, the Klingons were damn near on their knees at that point and suicide attacks were apparently being considered as pointless even by the Klingons. The federation and its vast resources and far superior armaments made a Klingon victory laughable.

    • @chadlpnemt
      @chadlpnemt 4 года назад +56

      Well, we must have a damage report before maneuvering or returning fire dont we?

    • @danielhausser8038
      @danielhausser8038 4 года назад +28

      @@Anarchist86ed OK, the question remains, why firing back so little?

    • @billyboblillybob344
      @billyboblillybob344 4 года назад +39

      @@danielhausser8038 As a viewer one is left with the impression that Picard was crappy battle captain or just plain shitty writing. The moment those cruisers came into range, Picard should have been like "Data, win this battle as quickly as possible" and let Data ravage all three vessels. Instead Picard is calling out movements and not firing...FAIL!

    • @rscully5
      @rscully5 4 года назад +8

      chadlpnemt Yes. You do. If you fire from a damaged area you can blow up.

  • @jarrodskufcagaming5203
    @jarrodskufcagaming5203 4 года назад +5

    "Let's make sure that history never forgets the name Enterprise". just got to love that quote.

  • @PaulCashman
    @PaulCashman 2 года назад +13

    Easily one of the finest one-hour episodes in all of the Trek canon.

    • @qv2539
      @qv2539 2 года назад

      I would say, second only to Best of Both Worlds Part 1.

  • @camschuster5947
    @camschuster5947 10 месяцев назад +4

    “I once tried Riker’s “Pasting” line in a Halo 3 lobby…didn’t go over so well. 😂

  • @blip1
    @blip1 4 года назад +34

    The dreaded inoperative navigational sensor array!!!

  • @tyvulpintaur2732
    @tyvulpintaur2732 6 лет назад +56

    "We will sit here firing pot shots at the Klingons while they fire full weapons at us!"

    • @bluerisk
      @bluerisk 4 года назад +8

      The objective was not to win the battle, or even to survive, but to win time for the Enterprise C at all costs.

    • @szahmad2416
      @szahmad2416 4 года назад +6

      True. And in fact, you could see that in the tactics that were employed by Picard. No evasive maneuvering.

    • @JAnx01
      @JAnx01 4 года назад +1

      Learn 2 ship energy management

    • @Shozb0t
      @Shozb0t 4 года назад

      Disruptors are less powerful than photon torpedoes but fire more rapidly.

  • @jamestaylor1754
    @jamestaylor1754 4 года назад +194

    Why are the control panels always filled with rocks?

    • @alfie3836
      @alfie3836 4 года назад +18

      How else do we kill off random red shirts?!?!

    • @perfectsplit5515
      @perfectsplit5515 4 года назад +7

      Good point James. I think it has always been that way since the Lt. Saavik took the Kobayashi Maru in Star Trek II - the original one.

    • @danlayson9623
      @danlayson9623 4 года назад +1

      😂

    • @Why_vern
      @Why_vern 4 года назад

      Pahaha 😆

    • @Ixions
      @Ixions 4 года назад +7

      @Jared Harris Deck 14 must be the red shirt quarters.

  • @DavidNicholson101
    @DavidNicholson101 4 года назад +6

    I loved Levar Burton's acting toward the end of the engineering scene as the music slowly started to crescendo.

  • @FingerinUrDaughter
    @FingerinUrDaughter 4 года назад +101

    Warf- "sir, reccomend we enter the battle firing everything we have"
    Pickard- "belay that. just shoot 1 phaser burst every minute or so, maybe throw a couple low yield photons at them. were not here to win"

    • @DrOneOneOne
      @DrOneOneOne 4 года назад +8

      Well, they literally weren't there to win - they were trying to ensure the Enterprise-C escaped. Outgunned and outnumbered, the idea was basically to play for time. They had to keep themselves between the Klingons and the Enterprise-C as much as possible, and draw fire.

    • @FingerinUrDaughter
      @FingerinUrDaughter 4 года назад +5

      @@DrOneOneOne they werent outgunned. pickards enterprise is capable of taking down borg cubes by itself. klingons are not a problem.

    • @DrOneOneOne
      @DrOneOneOne 4 года назад +3

      @@FingerinUrDaughter Guess again.
      "They're not even bothering to cloak themselves."
      "They shouldn't be so confident after the pasting we gave them at Archer-4."
      Plus, of course, the Klingons actually did destroy the Enterprise-D.

    • @billyboblillybob344
      @billyboblillybob344 4 года назад +5

      You probably meant "Worf - 'Federation vessel, lower your shields and prepare to be boarded..."

    • @ianciti
      @ianciti 4 года назад +2

      @@DrOneOneOne they only did that by cheating and basically nullifying their shields. they also managed to destroy the duras sisters in the process.

  • @bmeeker2
    @bmeeker2 9 месяцев назад +9

    Klingon Captain: "Federation Ship Enterprise, surrender and prepare to be boarded."
    Picard: "That will be the day."
    Chills everytime.
    Perfection.

  • @kevinoverbeck4250
    @kevinoverbeck4250 5 лет назад +12

    2019, This scene still makes me sit on the edge of my chair.
    USS ENTERPRISE

  • @sulphurous2656
    @sulphurous2656 Год назад +4

    The sound of the Enterprise-D's engines spooling up in the start as she goes into red alert gives me chills every time.

  • @antoniojoaocarrico1844
    @antoniojoaocarrico1844 2 года назад +6

    One of the best episodes of TNG along with "Best of Both Worlds". But my personal favourite is "In the Pale Moonlight" - DS9. The writing and acting of that episode eclipse most of our current TV shows...

  • @chriscaldwell6304
    @chriscaldwell6304 4 года назад +23

    If Captain Sisko was in command this battle would have been over and in 10 minutes

    • @masterchief2739
      @masterchief2739 4 года назад +6

      Sisko would order full impulse, concentrating firepower on 1 Kvort within 500 meters (to singe them), then use the saucer as a battering Ram on a second K'vort at full impulse. Then saucer Sep to dump the dead weight (critically damaged saucer) and Dog Fight the 3rd K'vort with the Star Drive section for an ultimately decisive win.
      Enterprise C returns without being hit once.
      Sisko tows the saucer back for repairs
      3 dead Klingon K'vorts.
      Sisko's goatee grows 1 inch longer.

    • @chriscaldwell6304
      @chriscaldwell6304 4 года назад +1

      @Mater Chief: I like the way you think 😂

    • @jodywilke4642
      @jodywilke4642 4 года назад +1

      Whoopee. Captains Kirk and Picard have always been the best.😊💒

    • @andrewshouse9840
      @andrewshouse9840 3 года назад +1

      Sure, and he'd be in an escape pod watching as his ship blew up while the Klingons went to town on the Ent-C

    • @blppt
      @blppt 2 года назад

      The Defiant has roughly the overall firepower of a Galaxy, but has the advantage of cloak and far, far more maneuverable.
      That being said, I'm not sure that a smaller ship would have accomplished what they needed to here---which was protect the damaged Ent-C from being disabled before she could enter the rift.

  • @andyh4518
    @andyh4518 6 лет назад +73

    With a battle strategy like this it's a wonder Starfleet didn't lose the war a long time ago

    • @collincovid6950
      @collincovid6950 2 года назад +2

      It was rather bad, poor, script writers going for action over reality. The enemy had no chance if Enterprise had just carried on firing, and the enemy was well in range as the enemy was hitting Enterprise

  • @rabmanducky
    @rabmanducky 4 года назад +6

    Best Picard line ever "That will be the day!"

  • @pinoi78
    @pinoi78 5 лет назад +47

    Now THIS should have been the basis for Star Trek: Generations.

    • @nigelmurphy6761
      @nigelmurphy6761 4 года назад +2

      Agreed. It would have been a great starting point

    • @hyperion4523
      @hyperion4523 4 года назад

      Same director. A few scenes where similar in generations. Like when they found Sorin.

  • @DrownedInExile
    @DrownedInExile 4 года назад +21

    It always annoyed me that the Enterprise spends so much battle time just sitting like a dumbshit, not returning fire.
    Here's how I'd picture this fight:
    (I know ECM has never been a part of ST lore, but ST lore has never been very consistent anyway. Looking at you Deep Space 9)
    The Klingons are famously good at stealth techniques. Their Electronic Counter Measures (ECM) has always been better than the Federation. As such, Klingon warships can acquire optimal target locks faster than Federation starships. Starfleet Naval Doctrine dictates starting a battle with evasive or aggressive maneuvers, to either negate the Klingon First Strike advantage, or close distance for an optimal target lock faster.
    However the Enterprise-D’s mission is not to out-maneuver or defeat the Klingons in battle. The mission is to delay the enemy advance long enough for the Enterprise-C to escape into the temporal rift. Unfortunately, that leaves little room to maneuver. The Enterprise-D activates their own ECM, diverts all available power to forward shields, and prepares to take a pounding.
    The 3 Klingon K’Vort cruisers do not disappoint, and open fire simultaneously. Several shots miss. Most hits are only glancing, but the Enterprise takes multiple direct hits. Minor damage to forward hull, moderate losses to shields. The Enterprise does not yet have an optimal lock, so Picard orders a hold-fire. He diverts warp power to shields, restoring most of their strength. Minor heat warning in power transfer couplings.
    The Klingons continue to close distance. Their disruptors are recharging, so they opt to fire their own photon torpedoes. This time the Enterprise responds in kind. Having acquired an optimal lock on the lead ship, they open up with a burst of phasors and photon torpedoes. Only half the shots land, and most of those are glancing. Still enough for moderate enemy shield loss. The Enterprise again takes moderate forward shield losses, more minor hull damage. Damage control teams are dispatched. Again Picard diverts divert warp power, but is only able to restore partial shields. Power couplings are overheating.
    Both sides hold fire, while their weapons recharge. The Klingons are trying to outflank the Enterprise. One Bird breaks formation, and makes a run for the limping Enterprise-C. Picard orders resetting the shields to 360-degree coverage, weakening them overall. Enterprise comes about to intercept. Warp power to phasers, and they fire with photon torpedoes. At near point-blank range, the Bird takes heavy damage. They suffer main power failure, and are disabled.
    But now the Enterprise has put her back to the 2 remaining Birds. They close to near point-blank range, where ECM is useless. They target the engines, and fire. Enterprise returns fire with her rear photon launcher, doing moderate damage to one of the birds. But Enterprise takes the worst of it. Heavy losses to rear shields, moderate hull damage. Impulse engines down, moderate casualties reported. Enterprise has no chance of out-maneuvering the Klingons on just thrusters.
    However the Enterprise isn’t out of this fight. She has numerous system redundancies, and 360-degree phasor firing arcs. Mr. Data does some clever power re-routing from the warp engines to weapons. With another burst of rear-facing phasors and torpedoes, the lead Bird is utterly destroyed. But the last Bird maneuvers out of torpedo range, and opens fire on the warp engines.
    Enterprise takes critical damage. Explosions rock the ship, causing heavy casualties. Riker is killed. Shields offline. Rear photon launchers offline. Warp engines are down, reactor containment fields lose power. Life support systems fail across multiple decks. Geordi has no choice but to shut down main power, and switch to auxiliary. The Klingons hail the Enterprise, demanding unconditional surrender.
    Picard is having none of it. He orders all available remaining power be diverted to weapons - including life support. Across the ship, the surviving crew scramble for emergency shelters. The air rapidly becomes toxic. Picard jumps to tactical, and manages a few anemic phasor blasts. The Klingon Bird is lightly damaged. They lock photon torpedoes. One single hit will be enough to destroy the Enterprise. The other disabled Bird has restored power, and is moving into firing range. Picard glares at the enemy ships defiantly, as fire rapidly engulfs his bridge.
    And then the Enterprise-C finally enters the temporal rift. The timeline is repaired.

  • @bobbastian760
    @bobbastian760 5 месяцев назад +2

    Ahh the old physical models flying at 7mph in a straight line.
    Gotta love practical effects

  • @cheetahlip
    @cheetahlip 4 года назад +6

    “Let’s make sure that history never forget the name ENTERPRISE”........it never has 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @juliusarchibaldiv3880
    @juliusarchibaldiv3880 2 года назад +3

    One of y favorite TNG episodes even though I wasn't really a fan of the series. But I kind of find this battle kind of prophetic, because this is exactly how the Enterprise-D met her end in Generations.

  • @Audioholics
    @Audioholics 2 года назад +37

    If only an uprated Dominion Era Galaxy Class was here...

    • @Cain-x
      @Cain-x 2 года назад +7

      In this timeline, it was already called the Battleship Enterprise. You'd imagine it would be fitted with all the latest war tech it has to offer since the war started.

    • @randomguy3034
      @randomguy3034 2 года назад +4

      @@Cain-x the federation was also nearly defeated at this point. Its hard to say if this ship had the same technology breakthroughs as the original timeline. Warship or not. The enterprise certainly took a few hits regardless

  • @WhySoSerious551
    @WhySoSerious551 4 года назад +88

    In the time it takes picard to plot a course they could of fired 100000 photon torpedoes

    • @blazerocker1734
      @blazerocker1734 4 года назад +8

      Agreed. If their task was to run cover and keep fire off of Enterprise C then they should have been firing everything without pause. They have to succeed which means conserving torpedoes is not a priority.
      I'm old enough to have seen this episode when it originally aired and then its first rerun. It was great back then but today I can see that the script was as it was because of the limited production budget. The effects department was working with models and limited time and money. Everything had to match the script for run-time so this is what we got. It works but there's a lot to be desired. Still, it was one of my favorite shows as a teen and I wouldn't trade my memories of it for anything.

    • @Gunnar001
      @Gunnar001 4 года назад +8

      Blaze Rocker Nope. Picard was literally maneuvering the ship into a focused barrage of enemy fire. Dumping all power into weapons and constantly firing everything means a massive drain of energy that would be taken away from shields and other vital defense systems keeping them alive.
      Picard’s only goal was to hold the line between the Klingons and the Enterprise-C and soak up all the fire long enough for them to escape. Balance of systems was crucial.
      Plus, we don’t know the condition of the war-torn Enterprise. It was stated that they just took part in a battle before this one. They could have already been dangerously low on torpedoes and suffered earlier damage.

    • @BelowMeGoggle
      @BelowMeGoggle 4 года назад +3

      billyboyjennings Enterprise blew up one of the Klingon ships with just a few phaser hits. If they had taken out or disabled one more they wouldn’t have had to rely on shields so much, moreso when they had to get into position to take shots for the C.

    • @WhySoSerious551
      @WhySoSerious551 4 года назад +1

      @@harruar7214 And for some reason they refuse to use cloaking devices, whilst the others have no such restraints.

    • @blazerocker1734
      @blazerocker1734 4 года назад +1

      @@Gunnar001 You have a good argument but that's three klingon BOPs in three dimensional space against two Federation ships, one of which has reduced shielding. In this case the best defense is a mad offense. I also don't recall any mention of the Enterprise D's torpedo supply being critically low or their launching system being offline late in the battle. If they had torpedoes then they needed to use them.
      If you still disagree then we'll just have to disagree. You are entitled to your opinion.

  • @AlexanderRM1000
    @AlexanderRM1000 4 года назад +4

    1:49 I like how he says "200 kilometers" to mean really close; the ships are presumably enlarged for effect but we can still picture that the battle is taking place at incredible range.

    • @TammoKorsai
      @TammoKorsai 4 года назад +2

      A very good observation.

  • @Commanderziff
    @Commanderziff Год назад +3

    "Open a hailing channel to the Enterprise C, ask if there's any way they could move slower!"

  • @Turtleproof
    @Turtleproof 2 года назад +8

    Picard doesn't even redress Riker for being over-confident, that's his job more than ever in the face of horrid all-out war to be the one rattling the saber during a vital holding action.
    Do I ever miss Star Trek. *Stares out at the night sky

  • @jetuber
    @jetuber 4 года назад +28

    This bridge was much superior to the living-room bridge that they otherwise always used.

    • @scottgurstein
      @scottgurstein 4 года назад +2

      Battle bridge shown in that scene, that's why.

    • @billyboblillybob344
      @billyboblillybob344 4 года назад +1

      @@scottgurstein The "D" would not have that giant saucer section and any ability to separate since it would have been built purely for battle and not exploration with a means to defend itself.

    • @scottgurstein
      @scottgurstein 4 года назад

      Didn't notice any difference in the saucer section size as it was represented visually in the episode.

    • @billyboblillybob344
      @billyboblillybob344 4 года назад

      @@scottgurstein It looked like the normal "D" Enterprise when, in this war timeline, it would never have the saucer section attributed to a galaxy class ship as that is where families etc live and operate.

    • @billyboblillybob344
      @billyboblillybob344 4 года назад

      @@kukuc96 Possibly but unlikely. With the TNG series, the USS Galaxy is the first Galaxy class ship but is allegedly still in testing while the Enterprise - D is the first to be set off on its mission to seek out new life and new civilization...etc. The Galaxy class was likely on the drawing board only a few years prior to that. In 'Yesterday's Enterprise', the war with the Klingons has been going on for quite a bit longer. This is why I believe there would be no saucer section of that size. It would be drawn up as a battle ship and not a ship of exploration...pretty significant difference. I would also draw your attention to Worf's comments to the renegade Klingons in the first season how the Enterpise becomes a formidable weapon when relieved of its excess bulk (or something along those lines).

  • @sdprazak
    @sdprazak 4 года назад +8

    “Let’s make sure that history never forgets the name...Enterprise.” I don’t care what timeline it is... The best Star Trek line ever spoken!

  • @288theabe
    @288theabe 4 года назад +48

    Only episode where Wesley crusher wasn’t annoying. Prove me wrong 🤣

    • @cobes11
      @cobes11 4 года назад

      Season 7 Episode 21

    • @LakeInTheDarkProductions
      @LakeInTheDarkProductions 4 года назад +10

      Any episode that didn't involve wesley crusher.

    • @dunneincrewgear
      @dunneincrewgear 4 года назад +9

      Jim Barrows
      But her ass made up for it...

    • @garymichaels719
      @garymichaels719 4 года назад +1

      @Jim Barrows Hurt the show immensely with her PC bent and nauseating pertness. But then again TNG was all about political correctness.
      ~~~~As for me, I like my Star Trek with a heavy dose of toxic masculinity… ruclips.net/video/CPq3Hz7kAqE/видео.html

    • @matthewherbert8875
      @matthewherbert8875 4 года назад +2

      Best Of Both Worlds

  • @johnmcgee6297
    @johnmcgee6297 4 года назад +30

    They still haven't made a Star Trek movie nearly as good as 'Yesterday's Enterprise' since it aired in `89.

    • @ianciti
      @ianciti 4 года назад +4

      i still say the undiscovered country is the best Trek Movie.

    • @HookerUNLEASHEDfilms
      @HookerUNLEASHEDfilms 4 года назад

      @@ianciti Kahn, then Undiscovered! :)

    • @ianciti
      @ianciti 4 года назад +2

      @@HookerUNLEASHEDfilms Khan was a good action movie, but that's it. i mean really think about Trek and what it was in its conception. Roddenberry himself got a job in the industry because he was sick of all the benile horrible writing and star trek itself was meant to embody free thinking and intellectualism. the original pilot of trek had been originally shot down by CBS for being "too intellectual" so in reality when i judge any piece of trek. i judge it by how sound it's out of the box thinking and proposed ideas are. in that regard i hold Undiscovered country to be a better Trek Film than Kahn because Kahn is just a fantasy revenge story being told in the star trek universe.... which is fine i guess but that's not what TREK IS ABOUT! Undiscovered country not only proposes the idea of peace between the federation and the klingons but it asks the question of peace in a very uncomfortable way. and not only shows that all our characters are uncomfortable with the idea but it also then shows that some people are so opposed to that idea that it brings them together in ways they wouldn't expect. Klingons and Starfleet officers working together to prevent peace between them. vulcans violating their own logic and it does all of this without just talking at the audience for anything the writers might've been worried would go over the audiences head (i'm looking at you Star trek the motion picture!) it also expands the universe by showing off New worlds and new LifeForms (the klingon prison world and the shapeshifter) which is the most trek of all. it's not just a story being told in the trek universe it IS trek. and it is taking Kirk where he has never been before. oh and speaking of kirk star trek 6 also offers him the most character development out of all the movies by forcing him to out grow his own prejudices.

    • @johnochiltree1170
      @johnochiltree1170 4 года назад

      The only Star Trek movie I don’t like is generations. Don’t really count the abrams movies as Star Trek movies

    • @ianciti
      @ianciti 4 года назад +1

      @@johnochiltree1170 oh fuck that man generations is awesome. only trek movie i dislike is insurrection

  • @cowsagainstcapitalism347
    @cowsagainstcapitalism347 2 года назад +2

    I like how even though the Enterprise D was designed and built during a Klingon war in this timeline the bridge still has that nice wood wrap around.

  • @LotusSimulations
    @LotusSimulations 4 года назад +3

    My favourite scene, from my favourite episode, of my favourite Trek series. This episode is a perfect encapsulation of everything that made older Star Trek series so inspirational and amazing, and this scene is one of only a few moments in Star Trek history where they truly acknowledge that the ship itself is an important character with a life of its own, just as important as any member of the crew, if not more so.
    The only other times we see that respect given are in Star Trek 3, TNG's "Encounter at Farpoint" and "Thine Own Self", the ending of Generations, and in the Voyager episode "The Year of Hell". The themes in this episode, and in most of TNG for that matter, of taking the high and noble road at any cost, of defending personal freedom and the right to self determination, and of resorting to violence only when all other options have run out, are totally beyond the comprehension of Abrams and his band of idiots, and their loss has helped to make "Discovery" and "Picard" the utter failures that they are. Sadly, we need those themes and that kind of inspiration now more than ever. Thankfully Seth MacFarlane and the Orville team still get it..... but Gene, you are sorely missed.

  • @CavalloDiSpade
    @CavalloDiSpade 3 года назад +3

    I love how they pitched up the sound of the phasers in this episode, to show that the federation was focusing heavily on weapons tech due to the war and thus had more powerful phasers than in the normal timeline.

  • @zacharyfett2491
    @zacharyfett2491 4 года назад +33

    I wish the uniforms in this timeline had been more militaristic.

    • @kcirrednosrednad3596
      @kcirrednosrednad3596 4 года назад +16

      They had belts.

    • @AlexSeverinski
      @AlexSeverinski 4 года назад +9

      And a closed collar.

    • @joelaton1062
      @joelaton1062 4 года назад +5

      I wished that about TNG in general. Horrible uniforms. I love the ones from Khan the best.

    • @UDAMZ
      @UDAMZ 4 года назад

      @@joelaton1062 I love the TNG later uniforms; very proper but they look great. Season 1/2 uniforms....nah.

    • @1337penguinman
      @1337penguinman 4 года назад +2

      @@joelaton1062 The ones from Enterprise are probably the most realistic in all honesty. Actually look like what a shipboard working uniform should. TOS movie uniforms (2-6) look too much like Dress uniforms to be actually practical. But they sure do look good in that capacity.

  • @u.hinson6300
    @u.hinson6300 2 года назад +3

    I love this episode. I Imagine an entirely different series of episodes in this timeline.
    Love the slight variation on the collar of the uniforms, the seriousness of enterprise D as a war ship. Completely different expectation of the crew and mission.

  • @tyvulpintaur2732
    @tyvulpintaur2732 2 года назад +4

    “Let’s not actually attack, let’s let the Klingons pummel us while we throw potshots back at them.”

  • @skytowergnome4664
    @skytowergnome4664 4 года назад +19

    Klingons probably considered it an honorable way for the Enterprise to go out.

    • @mcfirebug
      @mcfirebug 4 года назад

      watch the full episode

  • @yaldabaoth2
    @yaldabaoth2 4 года назад +4

    Klingon Attack Pattern "Fly in single line and pew pew!", Wesley: "Should we evade, sir?", Picard: "Shut up, Wesley."

  • @adamhufnagel3839
    @adamhufnagel3839 4 года назад +2

    This is one of my favorite episodes and yet the speed of that battle is so infuriating

  • @MrMaul80
    @MrMaul80 8 месяцев назад +1

    Absolutely my favorite line of Picard's. "Let's make sure history never forgets the name, Enterprise."

  • @frankbalistreri6822
    @frankbalistreri6822 4 года назад +26

    Got an idea...rather than concentrating on damage control...KEEP FIRING WEAPONS!!!

    • @Gunnar001
      @Gunnar001 4 года назад +2

      Pay attention. The Enterprise-D was never going to win the fight. That wasn't the goal. They were outnumbered and outgunned and had little chance. It was more important to keep the ship up and running in order to draw Klingon fire for as long as possible. The longer the Klingons are busy trying to destroy them, the less fire the Enteprise-C takes as they try to escape.

    • @frankbalistreri6822
      @frankbalistreri6822 4 года назад

      @@Gunnar001 yes, but a better delaying tactic is to fight, not sit there and get destroyed. During a battle, Captains keep their ships firing weapons, not sit there and listen to damage control reports.

    • @Gunnar001
      @Gunnar001 4 года назад +2

      @@frankbalistreri6822 An even better delaying tactic is not getting your ship immediately blown up because you're draining too much power away from the vital shields and defensive systems that are keeping you alive. Again, the goal was to draw all fire away from the Enterprise-C long enough for them to escape. Not to win the fight. Constantly firing wasn't going to make a difference at that point and would've just led to the ship being destroyed even faster.

    • @frankbalistreri6822
      @frankbalistreri6822 4 года назад

      @@Gunnar001 since the task was to draw the Klingon's fire, the Enterprise needed to give the Klingons a reason to draw in all 3. If they were going almost strictly defensive, the Klingons could afford to let one of their ships lose to attack the other ship. Picard needed to give the Klingons a reason to need all 3 of their ships to attack them.

    • @Gunnar001
      @Gunnar001 4 года назад +2

      @@frankbalistreri6822 The Klingons were going against the Galaxy Class warship Enterprise. It's already a much bigger threat than the heavily damaged aging Ambassador class limping away. And the Klingons did break one of their ships off to go after the Ent-C at 1:45. The Enterprise-D again moved in and put itself in the path of Klingon attack. The Enteprise was doing just enough to hold their attention without risking a weak defense.

  • @airdriver
    @airdriver 4 года назад +10

    This was the episode that convinced me that there was hope for TNG. After the first season I had given up. The concept of this story was brilliant.

    • @perfectsplit5515
      @perfectsplit5515 4 года назад +1

      "The war has gone very badly. Starfleet Command believes that within 3 months, surrender will be inevitable. One more ship now will not make a difference. But 27 years ago, one ship could have averted an entire war!"

    • @Bargoth60
      @Bargoth60 4 года назад +1

      Airdriver, I agree---I gave up somewhere in the middle of season two. A year later, I'm watching episodes from season three while flipping channels, and I was like, "Whoa! This is not the trite storylines I'd been watching the past 2 seasons..."

    • @dunnono00
      @dunnono00 3 года назад

      I think I only started watching around Season 3. When I eventually caught the reruns of Season 1 and 2, it was like... wtf is this? It's so bad. Looking back, it's like night and day. How did season 3 become so damn good? We not only had Yesterday's Enterprise, but Best of Both Worlds, Sins of the Father, The Defector.... it was like one hit after another.

  • @---Rin---
    @---Rin--- 3 месяца назад +1

    This was always one of my favorite episodes of TNG

  • @Simon-wn2id
    @Simon-wn2id 2 года назад +2

    Maybe the reason Starfleet moved from the Galaxy class was because every time they went into a battle, after a couple of hits they seemed to have the danger of a warp core breach? 🤣
    Always makes me laugh when Geordi looks straight at the camera when telling the bridge about the 2 min breach. I keep thinking “Who is he looking at?” 🤣

  • @christosvoskresye
    @christosvoskresye 4 года назад +4

    4:13 Picard SHOULD have said, "From Hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee."

  • @BrowncoatFairy
    @BrowncoatFairy 4 года назад +5

    maybe they coulda worked on the Enterprise-C's impulse engines, replaced the one-legged hamsters on bicycles that were powering them?

  • @Lee-zw5km
    @Lee-zw5km 2 года назад +1

    Never gets old! CLASSIC timeline episode from ST: TNG we got to see the illustrious Enterprise C. This scene omg.

  • @deathstrike
    @deathstrike 2 года назад +2

    When he told Guinan "Not good enough dammit!!! Not good enough!!" We saw a Picard who is military to the core ,a hardened warrior, and as close to the Imperial Captain Picard as we would ever dare see. I could have seen Picard in a series where he is "exchanged" for the Captain of the Imperial Universe. I know, Discovery did this with Lorca, but Picard would have the better choice. A true warlord with a unique and charismatic style that puts Picard a cut above other "less worthy" captains.

  • @davidcasmero7102
    @davidcasmero7102 4 года назад +12

    Picard should ordered a full salvo of photon torpedoes as soon as the Klingons came into range and ordered for full phasers to be fired as they moved in closer... not his hold fire order...

    • @popmonika
      @popmonika 4 года назад

      Err there were three Klingon ships attacking the Enterprise. What you plan would only work in hit and run tactics. Also in that case the heavily damaged Enterprise c would be destroyed and the timeline not restored. Starfleet loses the war.

    • @billyboblillybob344
      @billyboblillybob344 4 года назад

      @@popmonika Curiously, the three Klingon cruisers were in a nicely tight formation...I mean...stupidly. Destroying the one closest to the other two would have wrought near catastrophic damage to the surviving ships. It is a warp-core style explosion at very close range after all. But, the show treated that ship explosion as a match being blown out with no repercussions to both vessels that literally flew through the remnants of the explosion almost immediately.

    • @Gunnar001
      @Gunnar001 4 года назад

      David Casmero And then the resulting massive power drain diverted from shields and defense systems leaves the war-torn Enterprise vulnerable. The ship is quickly disabled and torn to pieces by the surviving Klingon battle cruisers as a barrage of focused disruptor fire hammers into it.
      Great job!
      Command and battle strategy isn’t your thing. Leave it to Picard.

    • @darcraven01
      @darcraven01 4 года назад

      @@popmonika up to the point the first klingon ship dies, the enterprise fires 6 phaser shots and 1 volley of 5 torpedoes. assuming they all hit the same target, we can assume that thats the required amount of fire power to take the klingon shops out. idk if this timeline is different (being more military focused, it likely has the same if not more weapons than the normal timeline enterprise d).
      normal timeline enterprise d had 12 phaser banks (one unusable unless seperated) and 3 torpedo launchers (1 also unusable unless seperated).
      if the max a torpedo launcher can fire at once is the 5 we see it do, than with some quick math we can see that all it would take is two bursts of all weapons firing to take out all three klingon ships (6 phaser hits * 3 ships = 18, whereas the 11 phaser banks * 2 firing bursts is 22 shots.. 4 more than required. 5 torpedoe hits * 3 ships is 15, 2 torpedo launchers * 5 torpedoes in each * 2 firing bursts is 20 hits.. 5 more than required).
      so... yeah...

    • @MasterofSpiders
      @MasterofSpiders 4 года назад

      @@billyboblillybob344 Ships in Star Trek are consistently depicted as being closer together than is reasonable. Space is bloody massive, you have faster than light communications, weapon and transporter ranges of at least 100s of kilometers (based on transporting to and firing on planets - Tech manuals state ranges like 300,000 km for phasers and torpedos, but you don't see than in combat) and yet 500m & 600m long starships are frequently with a few lengths of each other. And not just for combat either, even if they just want a chat they get up close and personal.

  • @ChicagoBirdGirl
    @ChicagoBirdGirl 4 года назад +5

    That was a great episode!

  • @alexanderjones9572
    @alexanderjones9572 4 года назад +2

    When Picard says ‘As you know, we could outrun the Klingon vessels. But we must protect the Enterprise C until it enters the temporal rift.’ who could imagine a low ranking officer thinking ‘Well, stuff that! I’m getting outta here!’

  • @Mat-ss8uw
    @Mat-ss8uw 2 года назад +3

    Anyone else find it glaring that the Klingon ships didn't fire a single one of those big torpedoes they are supposed to have?

    • @TheKnightOfSmite
      @TheKnightOfSmite 2 года назад

      1) Klingons like toying with their prey or upping the handicap, 3v1 is probably more honourable not to use torpedoes rather than spamming them
      2) They see Enterprise as a good fight but have some respect for them, w/ Archer III referenced
      3) They decided to just unga bunga the Battleship Enterprise rather than go after the fleeing Enterprise C class vessel because fighting a fleeing crew is less honourable than getting stuck into fighting Picard whose death will be legend in the Empire, saying they killed him without torpedoes or boarded him and took it over is a big dick bragging move
      4) They won the war or are in the process of winning it and everyone can see it, so they're being super relaxed about it with little concern about death (Klingons generally want to go out in a bang to get to the afterlife)

  • @JohnProthero
    @JohnProthero 6 лет назад +31

    I've always thought the Enterprise D must've been built by Land Rover: beautiful and functional, but pretty weak-assed engineering.

    • @blppt
      @blppt 2 года назад

      The Galaxy class was built by "naive" Starfleet who thought that once the Klingons were allies, not a threat, they could build giant luxury liners and put civilian families on board. Nor was much attention paid to how vulnerable they were to well placed shots in battle. Like when Riker let the Federation flagship get taken over by a couple of Ferengi in old, outdated scrapheap Klingon BoPs. Or in Generations, when even with ineffective shields, a full volley of forward weaponry should have finished off that old Klingon light cruiser. We're led to believe that either Riker is the worst captain ever or the volleys that the Duras sisters hit the Enterprise with before she turned away took out a vital system.
      That was changed in a hurry after the Borg and Dominion showed up---we got the Sovereign, Akira, Defiant, Prometheus classes, and even war-Galaxy refits.

  • @deslocc124
    @deslocc124 6 лет назад +14

    You would think they would build these ships more robust, slight phaser hit and the ship is falling apart.

    • @Optimusprime240
      @Optimusprime240 5 лет назад +4

      You underestimate the power of these weapons. You are talking about shots that can crack open continents....

    • @maylinkstore8031
      @maylinkstore8031 5 лет назад

      Klingon cannons can do alot of damage and they were concentrating fire on one ship.

    • @KH4444444444N
      @KH4444444444N 5 лет назад

      @@Optimusprime240 Completely correct.

    • @davidkelly4210
      @davidkelly4210 5 лет назад +1

      Remember, the NX Enterprise was able to blast away a mountain with a PROTOTYPE phaser. Every 1 of these shots is equivalent to a modern city busting nuke.

    • @KH4444444444N
      @KH4444444444N 5 лет назад

      @@davidkelly4210 A city busting nuke could not destroy a mountain the size of mt mckinley.

  • @Adiddy927
    @Adiddy927 Год назад +2

    Imagine if the Enterprise-D went back with the Enterprise-C to the battle of khitomer

  • @DoggosintheHouse
    @DoggosintheHouse 4 года назад +2

    3 Klingon attack cruisers firing on you....
    Picard: damage report! status report! engineering report!
    Nobody: could we maybe shoot first and ask questions LATER?

  • @lovipoekimo176
    @lovipoekimo176 4 года назад +5

    I want a remastered version of this that doesn't look silly.

    • @rkbkirin5975
      @rkbkirin5975 4 года назад

      I've seen some talented Star Trek fans out there, you'd think this would have been a scene they'd redo.

    • @halwakka504
      @halwakka504 4 года назад

      I'd like to see one where they unload as soon as the Klingons get within range, and then have the last two minutes of video of the Ent-D sitting idly in space beside three burning wrecks as the Ent-C limps back into the portal thing.

    • @fredocarroll
      @fredocarroll 4 года назад

      Does this count? It's crisp, at least: ruclips.net/video/v6muVlWkH2Y/видео.html

    • @theemrpoint123
      @theemrpoint123 4 года назад

      The show was remastered in HD and released on Blu-ray in 2012. The Blu-ray looks amazing. Picture quality is true HD and colours are vibrant. The ships move just as slow of course, but the effects looks pretty good.

  • @ricaard
    @ricaard 4 года назад +6

    Archer 4!

  • @DavidNicholson101
    @DavidNicholson101 Год назад +1

    Picard’s thinking, just a little closer, and when the warp core goes boom, Klingon vessels will go boom too😎.

  • @axegrinder3969
    @axegrinder3969 4 года назад +2

    I remember watching this episode for the first time as a kid. I remember feeling much apprehension when the two Klingon ships were hammering on the Enterprise just before the Enterprise C went into the rift.

    • @ElEvilrobot666
      @ElEvilrobot666 4 года назад +1

      I always thinked that just in the final second, the entreprise D should blow up... lol

    • @perfectsplit5515
      @perfectsplit5515 4 года назад

      Yes, the point was that it was a hopeless losing battle, as was the Federation's cause in the war was hopeless and losing. But one time-travel patched everything up in a nice neat package. And only the mysterious alien serving drinks at the bar - had any sensitivity to it.