Thanks Adam! Great video and so very interesting. My heart goes out to the lady in the pie n mash shop. I love watching stuff like this, keep 'em coming! :)
Hi. The Bind therapist you were speaking to at 11:30 used to work as a teaching assistant at my secondary school in 2008/2009 (something which she didn’t mention). I was also in the same school year as one of her sons! Although I know Ongar, there were some monuments which I wasn’t fully aware about, so a fascinating video!
Great Video I now live in Australia but grew up in Ongar till I was 11 years old Both my sets of grandparents moved to Ongar in the early 1950’s and both my parents went to Ongar Comprehensive School plus many other members of my family. Various family lived on Ongar until about 7 years ago it’s a place that’s steeped in family memories. I’ve been once in about the last 25 years and your video has made me definitely want to revisit when I’m next in England and also go to Chloe’s as I grew up on and love Pie, Mash and Liquor. Thanks for the video
Love your blogs yourxa positive and super happy guy I'm the same everyday is a bonus wish more like us ! I'm surprised you don't have more subscribers a lot have loads more for rubbish. Some things never add up ! Hope you build up to 10000 I have family in Romford etc so I put word out
Went to Greenstead church with my mum today. She was a friend of the vicar back in the 1970's ... I introduced my self to an old gentlement who was leaving , we had a great chat. That little window isnt anything to do with lepers , its something to do with "holy water" and was next to the original door and you took Holy water before entering . If it was leper squint it would have faced toward the alter and been much larger , you can see F'all through it 🙂 Bought some whole grain mustard and they have now installed a card reader so visitors can make donations , met the lady who installed it and I did a test run .. great day , thanks for the Vlog
Great stuff Jonathan, that’s some interesting info aswell. Everything online refers to it as a leper’s squint, including the guy who runs it, but then again none of us were there in 1060 to factually check it haha. The holy water answer is another interesting possibility, so thanks for that info Jonathan…very interesting and worth looking into…fascinating 🤟🏼
@@ADayintheUK the lady who installed the card reader confirmed to me that it was a place where holy water was offered before entry to the church , the leper squint has become an urban myth.
@@patthewoodboy interesting. There appear to be differing views on this. I’m open to both, but I’d love to know where she got that information to conclusively say that…but it does put a new spin on things…seems to me that we’ll never know, unless we can gain access to the builders plans!
@@ADayintheUK I tried to look through it and you cant see anything. A leper squint faces the altar , this doesnt. They are much larger and more like a window. The old guy who informed me that it was for Holy water has been going to that church since he was a child (75 now). The lepers squint idea is now like an urban myth. Did you try and look through it ? if yes , what did you see .... nothing 🙂
@@patthewoodboy I could see through it, bare in mind the glass wouldn’t have been there in the day…I’m open to both Jonathon, but since you’re so passionate about it, a historical confirmation via records would be excellent! Id love to see records either way…it would take deeper delving I’m sure. let me know what you find and I’ll gladly do a little video on Instagram confirming it once and for all. Good luck ;)
"Who came up with pie, liquor and mash?" The origins of pie, mash, and liquor as a combined dish specifically known as a Cockney classic can be traced back to the working-class communities of London, particularly in the East End during the 19th century. Here's a breakdown based on historical records and cultural context: Pie Shops: The concept of pie-selling in London dates back much further, with pie men and women selling various types of pies on the streets of London from at least the 18th century. However, the specific combination of pie, mash, and liquor as a staple meal for London's working class seems to have evolved in the Victorian era. Eel and Pie Shops: The first recorded pie and mash shop was opened by Henry Blanchard in 1844 at 101 Union Street in Southwark, which was initially described as an "Eel Pie House". Eels were one of the few fish that could survive in the heavily polluted River Thames at that time, making them a plentiful and affordable food source for the working class. Liquor: The term "liquor" in this context refers to a parsley sauce, not an alcoholic drink. This sauce was traditionally made from the water used to cook eels, flavored with parsley to give it a green hue. Over time, as eel became less common, the liquor was adapted using fish or vegetable stock, but the parsley remained a key ingredient. Mash: Mashed potatoes were a practical and filling side dish, complementing the pie. Key Families: While it's difficult to pinpoint exact inventors, certain families like the Manzes, Cookes, and Kellys have been historically significant in popularizing and maintaining the tradition of pie, mash, and liquor shops. Notably: Joe Cooke is often mentioned as one of the first to pair pie with mash and liquor in his shop in 1862, making it an archetypal plate of the era. Cultural Development: Pie, mash, and liquor became a cultural touchstone for London's East End, symbolizing a hearty, affordable meal for dock workers, factory hands, and other laborers. This dish was not the creation of a single person but evolved from the culinary and social needs of the time. Thus, while we can't attribute the exact invention to one individual, the dish's evolution into a well-known London meal involved many pie makers and eel sellers adapting to the demands and resources of their environment, with key families playing significant roles in its popularization.
Nice vid. Come back for a day on the train or ale train, beer and heavy engineering power..... all good. I was christened at Greensted and my ma and pa were married there.
Thanks Adam! Great video and so very interesting. My heart goes out to the lady in the pie n mash shop. I love watching stuff like this, keep 'em coming! :)
Ahh Glad you enjoyed it!
Can remember when it was a small record shop!! (God I'm old!!)
Awesome vlog, thank you for sharing :)
Love love love your videos, i learn so much from you, can't wait for the next one, thank you Adam
Ahhh Cheers Julie, Love ongar, glad you enjoyed it!
You’re doing good work. Keep it up. ✅
Hi. The Bind therapist you were speaking to at 11:30 used to work as a teaching assistant at my secondary school in 2008/2009 (something which she didn’t mention). I was also in the same school year as one of her sons!
Although I know Ongar, there were some monuments which I wasn’t fully aware about, so a fascinating video!
Cheers Paul
Great Video
I now live in Australia but grew up in Ongar till I was 11 years old
Both my sets of grandparents moved to Ongar in the early 1950’s and both my parents went to Ongar Comprehensive School plus many other members of my family. Various family lived on Ongar until about 7 years ago it’s a place that’s steeped in family memories.
I’ve been once in about the last 25 years and your video has made me definitely want to revisit when I’m next in England and also go to Chloe’s as I grew up on and love Pie, Mash and Liquor. Thanks for the video
Lovely memories, cheers for the watch Paul…and enjoy the pie n mash when you get there 🤟🏼
Brilliant video you really got to the heart of Ongar. The walk from Greenstead to Ongat (a dead strait line) is a must do thank you
Cheers Susan, Ongar is full of heart for sure, lovely place
Excellent video again, Thanks.
Thanks again Ian!
Love your blogs yourxa positive and super happy guy I'm the same everyday is a bonus wish more like us ! I'm surprised you don't have more subscribers a lot have loads more for rubbish. Some things never add up ! Hope you build up to 10000 I have family in Romford etc so I put word out
Cheers Michael, glad you're enjoying the content mate
Great video. Paid a visit to the church yesterday after watching this. 👍
Nice one Pete, yeah love that church...something very special about it
Brilliant video. Thanks for creating. On your next visit get in touch and I'll chaperone you around Great Stony Park.
Cheers Anthony, Stoney is coming up via the old children's school....watch out for the vid soon!
Hello adam , its now published in the Church booklet , its not a lepers squint but was used to give holy water to lepers.
awesome video man :)
Cheers Pal!
Very interesting
Another gem
Cheers Jenny, this shoot was incredible
This is where I was born and raised and still live😊
Omg same
Quality Vlog , thanks
Glad you enjoyed it Jonathon!
Twinkle Twinkle Little Star was written in Colchester. She moved to Ongar later in life. Good video as always.
Cheers Alice!
💪 Ongar Town!
Thanks for this, we have lived in Ongar for over 30 years and really learnt a lot!
Great to hear Phil!
You missed the fantastically run Jewson branch just off the end of the High street 😁
I was in there Gareth…wearing my cloak of invisibility…I stole a 2 x 4 ;)
Great Video
Cheers Marvin 🤟🏼
A-how’s life?~thanks. super picture- ;))
There was a hanging post outside st Martin's lane which I didn't see, assume it's been lost to time.
Went to Greenstead church with my mum today. She was a friend of the vicar back in the 1970's ... I introduced my self to an old gentlement who was leaving , we had a great chat. That little window isnt anything to do with lepers , its something to do with "holy water" and was next to the original door and you took Holy water before entering . If it was leper squint it would have faced toward the alter and been much larger , you can see F'all through it 🙂 Bought some whole grain mustard and they have now installed a card reader so visitors can make donations , met the lady who installed it and I did a test run .. great day , thanks for the Vlog
Great stuff Jonathan, that’s some interesting info aswell. Everything online refers to it as a leper’s squint, including the guy who runs it, but then again none of us were there in 1060 to factually check it haha. The holy water answer is another interesting possibility, so thanks for that info Jonathan…very interesting and worth looking into…fascinating 🤟🏼
@@ADayintheUK the lady who installed the card reader confirmed to me that it was a place where holy water was offered before entry to the church , the leper squint has become an urban myth.
@@patthewoodboy interesting. There appear to be differing views on this. I’m open to both, but I’d love to know where she got that information to conclusively say that…but it does put a new spin on things…seems to me that we’ll never know, unless we can gain access to the builders plans!
@@ADayintheUK I tried to look through it and you cant see anything. A leper squint faces the altar , this doesnt. They are much larger and more like a window. The old guy who informed me that it was for Holy water has been going to that church since he was a child (75 now). The lepers squint idea is now like an urban myth. Did you try and look through it ? if yes , what did you see .... nothing 🙂
@@patthewoodboy I could see through it, bare in mind the glass wouldn’t have been there in the day…I’m open to both Jonathon, but since you’re so passionate about it, a historical confirmation via records would be excellent! Id love to see records either way…it would take deeper delving I’m sure. let me know what you find and I’ll gladly do a little video on Instagram confirming it once and for all. Good luck ;)
"Who came up with pie, liquor and mash?"
The origins of pie, mash, and liquor as a combined dish specifically known as a Cockney classic can be traced back to the working-class communities of London, particularly in the East End during the 19th century. Here's a breakdown based on historical records and cultural context:
Pie Shops: The concept of pie-selling in London dates back much further, with pie men and women selling various types of pies on the streets of London from at least the 18th century. However, the specific combination of pie, mash, and liquor as a staple meal for London's working class seems to have evolved in the Victorian era.
Eel and Pie Shops: The first recorded pie and mash shop was opened by Henry Blanchard in 1844 at 101 Union Street in Southwark, which was initially described as an "Eel Pie House". Eels were one of the few fish that could survive in the heavily polluted River Thames at that time, making them a plentiful and affordable food source for the working class.
Liquor: The term "liquor" in this context refers to a parsley sauce, not an alcoholic drink. This sauce was traditionally made from the water used to cook eels, flavored with parsley to give it a green hue. Over time, as eel became less common, the liquor was adapted using fish or vegetable stock, but the parsley remained a key ingredient.
Mash: Mashed potatoes were a practical and filling side dish, complementing the pie.
Key Families: While it's difficult to pinpoint exact inventors, certain families like the Manzes, Cookes, and Kellys have been historically significant in popularizing and maintaining the tradition of pie, mash, and liquor shops. Notably:
Joe Cooke is often mentioned as one of the first to pair pie with mash and liquor in his shop in 1862, making it an archetypal plate of the era.
Cultural Development: Pie, mash, and liquor became a cultural touchstone for London's East End, symbolizing a hearty, affordable meal for dock workers, factory hands, and other laborers. This dish was not the creation of a single person but evolved from the culinary and social needs of the time.
Thus, while we can't attribute the exact invention to one individual, the dish's evolution into a well-known London meal involved many pie makers and eel sellers adapting to the demands and resources of their environment, with key families playing significant roles in its popularization.
Transit in & out of the place is difficult!
Ongar Railway Station.
Nice vid. Come back for a day on the train or ale train, beer and heavy engineering power..... all good. I was christened at Greensted and my ma and pa were married there.
The Ale train is s dead cert Tom! Cheers for the watch. The church is a stunner!
Ongar Fire Station.
castle street gang
Longfields gang
Ongar Police Station.
Awesome vlog, thank you for sharing :)
Thanks for watching!