Troy-Bilt Generator Basket Case - Bad Intake Valve 10 HP Briggs and Stratton
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Picked up this Try-Bilt Generator with a Briggs and Stratton 10 HP Engine. Was advertised as needing a rebuild. The top engine was disassembled and in a box. Will it run again?
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My Dad said that, "If a job is worth doing, it's worth doing well." You are above and beyond that truth!
Ps, he was RAF Ground Crew in India in WWII.
This is just what is needed for partial rv backup. Operates the ac and stuff perfectly. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y is quieter than my rv generator. Only suggestion is that it needs a fuel shutoff valve. So it is easier to store.
Between you and " small engine mechanic " I've learned a lot and have repaired a few generators for friends and family, just run of the mill carburetor issues but it's still a good feeling to be able to get a machine running in time of need, so thanks for taking the time to show us how it's done
Glad to hear you have been able to fix a few. Funny, I watch the small engine mechanic. He is very good, but his engines are not small....
Learning something new every time I watch one of your videos. Thank you for posting James
Very welcome
James...you're right up there with Mustie1, Andrew Camarata, WatchWesWork, et al. Great job and great channel.
Thats funny, those are all the guys i watch too, wow great minds think alike, or is it the algorithm?......mmmmm
Just watched Wes work. They are all good.
This is just 1 video. Mustie is a class all by himself.
Andrew, you are in a class all by yourself as well.
This is an excellent video.
Jep! Let me add SmallEngineMechanic. Funny thing is Mr Condons "Welcome back" sounds almost exactly the same. Could be father and son.
All great channels, Keith Rucker as well...
Hi James,
I really like watching this kind of video. In the last few months I have watched other channels similar to this and always end up remarking to myself how much better your videos are. The video quality, the narration, and the overall production of your videos is entertaining, informative and just plain fun to watch. Keep them coming. Great job!
Thanks Marty
When setting valve lash, you can leave the hex wrench on
so you keep it clocked where you want it while tightening it down.
The oil is the life blood of the engine!
Turned out great! Hope you sell it quick
Thanks and see you next time...
Thanks!
Correct
You lucked out in not having to remove and rebuild the carburetor. Great job with the valve lapping.
Ah it's Thursday morning, you know what that means people... Another excellent James Condon video, NICE!!!
Thanks
James, you must admit you really lucked-out bending that exhaust pipe ! -- You might have had an angel on your shoulder ❤ -- i saw "kink city" all the way
I used to hate working on these small engines, but after watching you I don't mind it as much !! 😃😃 Thanks
I missed this one a couple years ago...
Great find and troubleshooting James 😊
I am very impressed with you. I have watched several of your videos and I am very impressed. A true professional!
Thanks
The way you explain how you fix things is great it has helped me lots with my projects I have more confidence now thanks a lot from me in New Zealand. Our power over here is 240 volts so although the motors are the same the generators are a bit different. Thanks again.
Great tip on how to install the fuel valve the correct way. Thanks!
Great video... As a General rule of thumb.... Voltage follows Frequency due to the lack or reactive power or VARS on a inductive load..
Thanks
Was late to see this by almost a year but it was a great video for me. Changing the oil the second time is very good for the buyer of this unit
Wow that ended up being a great buy only because you had some parts and the ability to fix it. Great job. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks
Agreed with Daryl 603. Keep the Allen wrench in one hand and spanner in the other when setting the valve clearance . Really enjoy your videos.
I agree too.
I like how you use a torque wrench on everything
allway brilliant videos and so good on the electrical repair
Great job, enjoyed watching you bring it back to life. Glad the water in the crankcase didn’t wipe out the Briggs!
Thanks
I love your work clean and professional I have been doing small engine repair myself for 42 years
The only thing that gets me is why not while you have the carb and head off lap both valves and clean the carb one time your working yourself double am not knocking you am just saying
I am still learning. Have a terrible habit of not fixing things unless I know they are broken.
Gasoila is a salve-type product, used in sounding large fuel storage tanks.
It is smeared on the end of the tape bobber, and when the tape measure is retrived, any water will show up bright reddish-purple, to indicate water presence. A small tube lasts years. You could put it on a wire, and inserted into the crankcase to check for water.....just another tool, for your arsenal..
Nice work. Good to save it from the scrap heap. 👏👏👏
Thanks 👍
who needs to go to small engine repair school when your videos are available,
keep them coming
id like to see a piston and crank replacement .
Released a video recently on this type of engine where I did just that.
Thank you for careful considerate explanations of your diagnostic process and practical decision making. Great channel. Many hours of enjoyment.
Thank you very much!
i found that if rap the valves with a hammer a few times of a head that has been sitting that often the compression greatly improved.
Great fix. I had a similar 10hp Briggs snow engine on a snow blower with a bad compresson release on the cam shaft. Could not start it on the recoil starter, but could start it on the electric starter. Same terrible Nikki carburetor. Customer does not want to fix the cam shaft. Briggs has several updates on it. I told them no warrantee from me because it may burn out the electric starter. The blower cost about 2K new. Can't understand why they won't spend two hunderd to fix it. Thanks for great video's.
Thanks. I don't like the Nikki design, but I have had very good luck bringing those back to life. Guess all the plastic agrees with the Ethanol fuel.
James, on the valve adjustment, what you can try is set the clearance, then spin the engine until that valve spring is in compression. Then tighten the lock nut. The load on the adjuster usually will keep it locked and won’t turn. I Use this method on motorcycle engines with the stem and nut adjusters, when I’m not pulling cams to change out shims under buckets.
Great tip ,thanks
I have this same generator model. Great to see how it all comes apart and goes back together:) Mines been running great. I bought it in 2008 during IKE and used it a couple times a year or two since. Min sounds like it's missing a beat sometimes as well.
Another great video and repair. Especially satisfying from the state you got it in!👍👍👍
I don't know if it's just me but I think for mechanic you got the cleanest hands i've ever seen on a mechanic
, you should a hand Model for Auto Part.. just saying
lol. This is only a hobby. My day job does not involve grease, oil or dirt.
Haha...i was thinking he could be a voice actor. Read books for kids or something..kinda got one of those chocolate "Mike Rowe" type of voices.
Dish soap can also be used for installing handgrips as well.
You’re son is a genius and has two hands 🙌
Another great video James, I'm really liking your channel! One little tip, if the head is off the engine and you haven't run it before, you can do a simple gas test to check the valves are sealing. With the spark plug fitted and tightened, turn the head upside down and pour some gas into the combustion chamber then look into the ports and see if any gas is leaking past the valves. It's not quite as thorough as a proper leakdown test but it would have shown up the bad valve on this engine and saved you the hassle of taking the head off again.
Thanks, will give it a try.
As I don't have storage for all my finds I use inflatable mattress' and cut them lengthwise and cover stuff this way I get 2 or 3 pieces
Yes! A new generator video!
Love this channel. I especially like the way you are very methodical in your problem solving.
Thanks
Leak down test 5 percent after valve laping killer bro that is amazing 👏🙌👌
One of the best.
Just imagine setting your valve spring keepers while using a box end wrench to hold the valve spring down
Thanks for all works... you're doing well ... you make me feel better with repair generators
Tanks from Libya
Tanks from Libya
Thanks. Glad to hear this helps.
Saw your channel mentioned twice on Bruce Pender's channel. You like torque wrenches. I like your style. Already learned 2 new things from 2 different videos.
Great find and fix, James! Excellent illustration of why to keep old/bad parts and fantastic detail and video coverage as always. Loved hearing the kids romping in the house too btw. Thanks again for your recent help on the Generac WheelHouse flip that I picked up too.
Thanks. Did that WheelHouse come back?
@@jcondon1 It did! I sent you a follow up email on 10/2 which you may not have seen. It read "IT'S ALIVE!! Voltage running a bit high, but I''ll get that and Hz tuned just right. Kill a watt in transit and due 10/5. Can't thank you enough for your direct help and channel too, man! Very much appreciated!!"
@@ericvaughn1126 nice!
Good job. Having recovered more than a few flood (submerged) small engines, I caution on the assumption that full oil can be misleading. Water sits on the bottom, under oil that might look fine. Just got to the part where you discovered the chocolate milk after running it. I've got a couple of videos on my channel of some things I fixed after long term water in the crankcase. I drain, flush with charcoal lighter (not running it, just a few pulls on the rope). After that a good run with transmission fluid to get the rest of the moisture out and clean any remaining gunk out. After that, new oil and it's good to go. Living in a flood prone zone, I get a lot of experience fixing flood damage to various things. :/ Nice video. Great deal for $50. Running great, especially considering it's got a Niki carb. ;)
Thanks. I am always surprised to find water in the engine. Not much flooding here, only engine neglect.
Back in the '70s, all the way up to the '90s, if you ask Briggs and Stratton what the compression is they would tell you that if there's enough compression to blow your thumb off the spark plug hole, it was enough. I never did like that answer.
Pil defenitly has water in it now since it mixed hopefully you get all the water out after a few oil changes
You make a quality video Thanks
That Plastic Heat shield that bolts to the 2 bottom head bolts and goes under the carb is only meant to be used in Very Cold Weather to keep the carb from Icing in Warmer Weather you should remove it .
Good luck James, an extra good head laying around. Hope gen works. Looks just like the one I have.
same watts rating. also I bet there's a 91825GS part in there. it has the brushes and a small circuit
board attached with 4 diodes and I bet a small blue part. this takes 7.5 volts a.c. off the stator and
turns it to d.c. JUST b4 it goes to the brushes.
When you adjust valve clearance hold the ajustment bolt with the tool while, you tighten the jam nut with the boxwrench or the bolt will turn when tightening the locknut and the clearance will change!
Great Work James ! I really enjoy your videos very informative ....
Thanks
Awesome - again!!!
Great video James. Email me when you can go live again as I’ve had numerous people asking me to have you back on for Generator Night Live!!
Thanks Ken. Will email.
I Got to say you do some immaculate work,
Thanks
Thanks!
Thanks Jeffery!
A lot of these common fuel shut off valves, coils, spark plugs, etc.
Check out Pat's small engine parts.
Jim.... to help hold your valve setting when adjusting the valves.... LEAVE YOUR STAR BIT/ALLEN in the hole with one hand, while tightening the nut with the other! Watch your video closely... you will it turn as you tighten the nut! (: Use BOTH HANDS!
hi james first pull good job mate, looks in good nick too ,it did not look a quick job for you , a professional job
Just a suggestion next time you have a head off like this ,before putting it on pour some solvent , gas varsol ,carb cleaner , etc. down each of the ports and check for leaks at the valves . If it pours out you know you will have to repair it .
bent pushrod is probably aluminum which they use for the intake valve the bent one Most guys usually replace the aluminum one with the same steel one used for the exhaust
Water in cylinder possibly and even without that the cylinder bore is highly reflective ie glazed and could not see any hone marks . All Briggs have crappy top piston rings high wear due to being very shallow which causes ring flutter .. The Vangard series has the least issues
Another great save...!
Yep, should have lapped the valves while the head was off - would have only taken a few minutes. Also, at one time I had constructed a paint curing oven for my spray painting. Just a wooden box with a couple of regular light bulbs for heat (in porcelain sockets) aka 'Kenner Easy Bake Oven'. Makes the paint quite hard and more resistant to wear/weather.
I know. I have issue with fixing things that I am not sure need fixing.
Well done. Professional job!
Good job James, thanks for sharing.
You bet
I have to get this off this off my chest. I saw the same part on Ebay for $5.00 with the grommet and free shipping. It's probably made in China, but the OEM part probably is too so your'e paying $6.00 for the plastic bag it comes in. I've found that Ebay beats Amazon's pricing almost every-time and I don't have to pay extra to get "free" shipping. Okay I said it so I'll get off my soap box now. Great videos BTW!
😂😂😂 lets have a spring shooting contest😂😂😂
Great job Doc, very informative .
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I'm impressed with the tools you always have on hand. Compression tester, compression leak tester, lapping tools, valve spring tool, temporary fuel tank, etc... and then you always seem to have an old part that can work with your project. In a future video, you need to give us a quick shot of your parts inventory. I'd love to see what's lurking on the back wall of your garage! LOL, after watching you work I always want to go out and tinker with something of mine, even if it doesn't need it!
Very nice.
Thanks
I enjoy basket cases
Makes me think and it’s not the normal every day fix it
Besides some one learned how to tare it down
Maybe they will put the next one together
Right?
Always very interesting thanks for sharing 🇦🇺
great job James,
. and got a great deal on this one also!
Thanks
Great video, only James would torque the pull cord cover, lol.
But not the heat shield tins. It's funny I've seen so many of these videos that it's noticeable when he doesn't torque something down.
Been accused of torquing my tooth paste tube to 5 in/lbs!
Hello James, my nick is Jim. I've been watching your channel for a couple of months now. Its great to see someone with your knowledge base, everyone don't have that base, and it shows. James, I suppose I'm much older than you and have worked on small engines for a living for more years than I care to think about. I can tell when someone knows his stuff and when he don't. You my friend are good!.James can you tell me what part of the country you are located in? Jim
Thanks. Still learning and coming across new issues everyday. I am in southeast part of NY.
Defenitly a basket case lol
One thing I like to do is put a drop of torque seal on the rocker arm nuts. I know it is not called for. I guess it is just a habit I got into working aircraft engines. I want to know if there was any change and it reminds me the job is done. The same for any other bolts or nuts where I used the torque wrench.
That is a good idea. I noticed that the last time I went on a roller coaster. All the bolts have torque seal on them. People give me a hard time at how much I use the torque wrench. The comments would go crazy with torque seal, lol...
you should have done the vales clean inlet track and exhaust track you clean out side
Nice job .
Thanks
There is why there is why you lose your dimension you have to put the wrench on the nut keep your allen wrench in the set screw put the Allen wrench where you need it to be gauge it put it where you need it to be hold hold the Allen wrench tighten with the wrench
Great video, well done in purchasing a valve spring compressor. Love all your video's, I am a recent follower and am hooked. Hope you are not offended but on Mustie1's channel he uses "Gunk" or the like in his cleaning machine. He seems a bit of a carburettor expert like yourself. He seems to have great success with that. I don't know what the figures are for carb cleaning but it seems that most of the machines you bring back to life they have a carb fault. Again no offence meant, please keep the video's coming....
Thanks, appreciate the feedback. I started with Gunk, but a little too toxic for me and it is dangerous to use in an ultrasonic cleaner. That said, Mustie1 has had very good success with it, just makes me nervous.
i always thought that tool was a DIY barbie leg toy sanding valve...😱😱😱
I've just bought a Coleman with a Subaru engine. It seems to run too fast. I've got to do a rebuild on the Carb.and check it all out. I'm pretty good on the engine side but not with the genny part. I would appreciate it if you could watch it and if I do anything wrong. maybe you could let me know. Just bought one of those volt meters you use on yours. You do great work with generators. Love watching you work. Thank you in advance.
Sure, send me the link when you have the video uploaded. I will watch. I was working on a Powermate with a Subaru yesterday and it ran too fast for a second at startup. Mads me nervous for a second. Assuming you get it up and running properly, check if yours has a heat shield between the exhaust and the generator head. If not, you should add one. I get a log of Powermate/Subaru's with burned up generator heads because they did not add a heat shield for some reason.
@@jcondon1 Ok I will check and see about the heat shield. And I'll send you a link when I get the video up. Thank you!
Omg that sounds great 👍
Thanks
Nice video. I notice that when you were reassembling the exhaust valve there was a scorch mark on the body under the spring. Is this common or was it an indication that the exhaust valve was not seating completely?
I hate those rubber gas tank bushings! A while back I was doing a test run on my old Homelite 4400 generator, and as soon as I started it, gas began dripping right onto the back of the generator head from the dried out bushing. Luckily I noticed it right away and shut it down. Got a new bushing and valve from Amazon, and it's back up and running.
That Troy-Bilt looks like it has the same engine and generator as my Briggs Wheelhouse 5550. I wonder how many models they used those parts in?
It is the same engine and power head as the Generac Wheelhouse (and many other brands). I like plastic tanks, but that bushing is a real fire hazard. Surprised manufacturers are allowed to do that.
Maybe all the water got in there when the head was off !
buy bushing ($1) and matching shut off valve on ebay Stock up.....
Its a boxit case
That is what the previous owner did wrong. You have to leave it on the healing bench for it to get fixed. If you put it in a box all hope is lost.
@@natehb Once on the healing, bench, the correct three stage resurrection process is, Garlic, Crucafix, Holy Water.
hook it up to your drill n let it spin your valve to grind
Do you have any videos on a broken governor inside an engine ?
What you use to degrease the head 🤔will denatured alcohol work
The carburetor spring is still a mystery to me, i see it’s functionality and how it works but I find some New OEM carbs will come with the spring, some of the same part number will show up without it. I even have taken apart new units that should have a spring but yet they do not.
Interesting. Several times the spring has been missing and I left it and it ran fine. All my stuff is used and abused so never sure if it is missing or was just not included when new.
Why can't I remember day to day things, while I remember to ask you if you got one or both straight push rods from the blown Briggs engine?
you couldn't wire brush at lease the one head bolt?
You need a more sturdy spring compressor.
I have several. One in particular would have worked very well, but I choose the easier and quicker one. Poor choice.
@@jcondon1 Yeah, been there, done that...
i found a better way to lap. use a drill and tubing that fits the valve stem
Almost did that recently. Heard that the back and forth motion is better then spinning in one direction. Not sure if there is any truth to that.
Once, just once I would love for you to break character and say something like “boom goes the dynamite” when something goes right.