This is a great way to teach and learn this new, to me anyway, way of guiding your horse. I am from the old English style of asking horse to wrap around your leg to turn. Thanks!
Yes Penny, me too, this would confuse me and the horse would wonder what I want if I did the contrary he is used too. I would have to talk to the horse first to be understanding and patient with me ! Question of habit, most probably..
That seems counter intuitive for the horse. What's the thinking around that? Or is it just that that's the way it's always been done so that's how we do it? Evidently, you and others are wanting to make the change to something different. I wonder if remaining the same for already trained horses would be better, but training new horses should be done this better way.
@@virginiamoss7045 for already trained mature horses, I would personally adapt to him and not try to impose my way. However I believe most horses to be adaptable to new methods provided it's always done in the best acceptable way for the horse to gain his trust and acceptance, if it's no too confusing for him. I watched some cow boys ways of riding and I think a horse used to English style would need good training to adapt to western style, a young one may learn more easily. For the rider it's to start a new style all over again.
@virginia Moss well... I'm not sure how it's counter intuitive to the horse. If I put pressure on one side, shouldn't they go away from it? If you're referring to the counter intuitive approach of English style of riding by putting pressure on the side you want the horse to go in, then yes, it's the opposite of that. An advanced version of this is simply to release all pressure on the side I want a horse to go in and not put that pressure on to make them turn. I have to teach the basics here first though. The idea is to have to do as little as possible and be in control of one's body in a quiet way. That's why I went left at one point when I didn't want to, because I had taken concentration off of my legs briefly to aim. Subtle changes should get changes kind of thing. As for this style of riding, it's not abnormal but it's simply unheard of if one has been learning English style only as just about everything I do is blasphemy to a cultured English rider.
This is great 👏 body and legs control should really be the rule for all equestrian. Lena responds really well. This is interesting because bow and arrows are not very much practiced here with horses, but rather limited to a very few passionates two legs.
I think there are more people doing it than we're aware of. It's not an easy thing to take video of doing and those that are doing it are likely just concentrating on getting better and don't have the time or patience to learn a whole new craft of video editing etc..
This video is exactly how I taught her. Starts with the reins and just keep asking with body and follow up with reins if it doesn't work. Soon it'll be just body
Oh I really enjoyed this, I could imagine myself riding Lena and shooting arrows 😊. Maybe one day I'll have a bow and arrows ! In the meanwhile I'll practise on my without hands riding. I started this a long while ago and it was you who gave me this excellent idea, and we did quite well for a beginning, but then I worked on so many other things that somehow I forgot to practice. Now I am very motivated to continue !
That's excellent to hear! I'm glad I can pass on some good ideas here and there. Riding with no hands is amazing and I have yet to see a person not be amazed whenever I show off Lena's skills to them. Fun!
Thanks for making this. I'm also in Europe (Norway) just learning to ride with a local instructor and her two horses - I'm lucky she is positve to me shooting. It is English style as well with leg pressure on the side you want to turn to. My instructor has me exagerate my body language for the turns, even twisting my body a little. I think that may get confusing for the horse if I am twisting for a shot but we'll figure something out!
You're welcome. I'd encourage you to not twist and instead stay centered with the horse but I'm not your instructor and certainly can't tell you what to do. I can tell you that the physics of twisting on a horse are not good for the horse and won't help you much in your form as an archer on horseback. I suppose if it works for the instructor and that person's horses then that's what you have though.
I'm not sure about the horse, but I do know that you don't face the target to shoot. Your body is sideways to the target, drawing the bow across your chest with your head turned sideways looking at the target, so there would be no need to twist in the saddle while side-passing the target like Lena was doing. If I understand your point, you would only twist to shoot if the target was in front or behind the horse, neither of which you want to do. Have fun with your new undertaking; it's quite the challenge.
@@virginiamoss7045 Check out some horse archery championship videos - they're typically doing 3 arrows at a full gallop at a central target with 3 faces for forward, side and rear shots! That's my 10 year goal :)
@@StableHorseTraining Yeah I think I need to figure out how to use my legs in the best way. And there may be litterally things lost in translation with my instructor - a lot of new Norwegian words that I haven't understood fully!
Just wondering how to insure that stray arrows don't enter your neighbor's property. Your shots, aiming downward, certainly wouldn't be a problem, but students might not be so in control. I did archery as a child and got pretty good at it, but to get there I had some crazy, out of control shots.
Ok new plan, what's up every body. My brothers and I want to move toTennessee. We're all going to save up and 10 years from now chip in for a property down their and have three houses on it, hopefully log cabins. Efficient!!! Close to a mountain area with a lot of outdoor activities. Then for me, I'd have my tiny home -_- and would be able to take care of two horses, and some goats as well as doing any of the basic outside work, around the property and hope to you know, get paid for that. I think it's going to work, we're all on the same thought for now. I'm just am going to remind them to save money, no big houses! :)
Wow. Can't wait to try this with my horse. I've wanted to do mounted archery for a while, just never knew how to start.
wow!!!! I love learning about this topic about body control when riding.
Lena is such an amazing partner!
Yes she is!
I really liked this series
Thank you for letting me know :) I'm glad you enjoyed it!
This is a great way to teach and learn this new, to me anyway, way of guiding your horse. I am from the old English style of asking horse to wrap around your leg to turn. Thanks!
Yes Penny, me too, this would confuse me and the horse would wonder what I want if I did the contrary he is used too. I would have to talk to the horse first to be understanding and patient with me ! Question of habit, most probably..
That seems counter intuitive for the horse. What's the thinking around that? Or is it just that that's the way it's always been done so that's how we do it? Evidently, you and others are wanting to make the change to something different. I wonder if remaining the same for already trained horses would be better, but training new horses should be done this better way.
@@virginiamoss7045 for already trained mature horses, I would personally adapt to him and not try to impose my way. However I believe most horses to be adaptable to new methods provided it's always done in the best acceptable way for the horse to gain his trust and acceptance, if it's no too confusing for him. I watched some cow boys ways of riding and I think a horse used to English style would need good training to adapt to western style, a young one may learn more easily. For the rider it's to start a new style all over again.
@virginia Moss well... I'm not sure how it's counter intuitive to the horse. If I put pressure on one side, shouldn't they go away from it? If you're referring to the counter intuitive approach of English style of riding by putting pressure on the side you want the horse to go in, then yes, it's the opposite of that. An advanced version of this is simply to release all pressure on the side I want a horse to go in and not put that pressure on to make them turn. I have to teach the basics here first though. The idea is to have to do as little as possible and be in control of one's body in a quiet way. That's why I went left at one point when I didn't want to, because I had taken concentration off of my legs briefly to aim. Subtle changes should get changes kind of thing. As for this style of riding, it's not abnormal but it's simply unheard of if one has been learning English style only as just about everything I do is blasphemy to a cultured English rider.
@Penny Webb thanks Penny! I'm glad this was useful for you 😊
This is great 👏 body and legs control should really be the rule for all equestrian. Lena responds really well. This is interesting because bow and arrows are not very much practiced here with horses, but rather limited to a very few passionates two legs.
I think there are more people doing it than we're aware of. It's not an easy thing to take video of doing and those that are doing it are likely just concentrating on getting better and don't have the time or patience to learn a whole new craft of video editing etc..
@@StableHorseTraining yes it must be difficult to handle and we are not aware of the difficulties on the other side of the camera.
Wooo.....looks like fun 😁 so many things to do with Lena. I just love her!
It's a heck of a lot of fun!
I can not what to get my top and cap soon in the post. I'm in love with the all the horses one. I can not what 😊
That was Brilliant. The last back up when she moved with intentional steps was just such a good lesson. Thank you so much 👍
Glad you liked it! She's an amazing horse
Good Morning! I have a question Sir Graeme, How did you teach Lena to learn No reins method? Outstanding teaching video btw.😉👊
This video is exactly how I taught her. Starts with the reins and just keep asking with body and follow up with reins if it doesn't work. Soon it'll be just body
@@StableHorseTraining beautiful
Oh I really enjoyed this, I could imagine myself riding Lena and shooting arrows 😊. Maybe one day I'll have a bow and arrows ! In the meanwhile I'll practise on my without hands riding. I started this a long while ago and it was you who gave me this excellent idea, and we did quite well for a beginning, but then I worked on so many other things that somehow I forgot to practice. Now I am very motivated to continue !
That's excellent to hear! I'm glad I can pass on some good ideas here and there. Riding with no hands is amazing and I have yet to see a person not be amazed whenever I show off Lena's skills to them. Fun!
Thanks for making this. I'm also in Europe (Norway) just learning to ride with a local instructor and her two horses - I'm lucky she is positve to me shooting. It is English style as well with leg pressure on the side you want to turn to. My instructor has me exagerate my body language for the turns, even twisting my body a little. I think that may get confusing for the horse if I am twisting for a shot but we'll figure something out!
You're welcome. I'd encourage you to not twist and instead stay centered with the horse but I'm not your instructor and certainly can't tell you what to do. I can tell you that the physics of twisting on a horse are not good for the horse and won't help you much in your form as an archer on horseback. I suppose if it works for the instructor and that person's horses then that's what you have though.
I'm not sure about the horse, but I do know that you don't face the target to shoot. Your body is sideways to the target, drawing the bow across your chest with your head turned sideways looking at the target, so there would be no need to twist in the saddle while side-passing the target like Lena was doing. If I understand your point, you would only twist to shoot if the target was in front or behind the horse, neither of which you want to do. Have fun with your new undertaking; it's quite the challenge.
@@virginiamoss7045 Check out some horse archery championship videos - they're typically doing 3 arrows at a full gallop at a central target with 3 faces for forward, side and rear shots! That's my 10 year goal :)
@@StableHorseTraining Yeah I think I need to figure out how to use my legs in the best way. And there may be litterally things lost in translation with my instructor - a lot of new Norwegian words that I haven't understood fully!
@@Danandlene well, I hope it goes great and you have a lot of fun doing it!
Lena is just too precious 😍🥰
Great job both of you.
Thank you!
Greame this was awesome
Thank you! It was a lot of fun
Just wondering how to insure that stray arrows don't enter your neighbor's property. Your shots, aiming downward, certainly wouldn't be a problem, but students might not be so in control. I did archery as a child and got pretty good at it, but to get there I had some crazy, out of control shots.
A backstop or net.
I posted a vlog where I did horse archery bc u inspired me!❤
that's really great! I hope it went well :)
Ok new plan, what's up every body. My brothers and I want to move toTennessee. We're all going to save up and 10 years from now chip in for a property down their and have three houses on it, hopefully log cabins. Efficient!!! Close to a mountain area with a lot of outdoor activities. Then for me, I'd have my tiny home -_- and would be able to take care of two horses, and some goats as well as doing any of the basic outside work, around the property and hope to you know, get paid for that. I think it's going to work, we're all on the same thought for now. I'm just am going to remind them to save money, no big houses! :)
Good for you Mitch!
Are you leaning in the direction you want to go when you leg rein?
No. I never lean if I can help it. I try to stay center the center of gravity of the horse and I. Leaning introduces all kinds of issues for horses.
@@StableHorseTraining what type of issues?
Imbalance mostly and then that leads to miscommunication, frustration as you correct etc. That realm of stuff
What fun. Thank you so much for the share. I am an accomplished Equestrian, but have never done any Archery. This should be absolutely hilarious.
You're welcome :) It's a lot of fun doing archery and I'm sure it'll be fun for you too