It’s almost like people have been saying this front office sucks for years. 99% of the problems this team/franchise has can be traced back to an incompetent front office.
one of the biggest problems this front office has had is the incredibly stupid roster construction...imagine not getting one 2 way wing in 3 years and stacking the team with 6foot guards that cant shoot? imagine have two paint domiant super stars in lebron and ad and surrounding them with rosters constructed from 1980s with incredibly terrible shooting. they had almost the perfect formula in 2020 and even lets say they messe dup and let it go, they had 4 years to fix it and go back to it and they never did. our rosters are always bottom in shooting or defense because of how many one way players we have had.
Jim and Jeannie are very close in ineptitude. If the Lakers must stay in the Buss family, I wonder if the two young siblings should get more power, they seem more capable. The fact Rob still the GM after he dismantled that bubble roster and keeps failing is an indication Jeannie now wants to prioritize profits above winning. This won’t change until LeBron retires, hopefully next season.
It's been 3 years since the Russ trade and we still don't have a single 2way athlete around AD and Bron. I was watching the cup games last night and these teams have all these elite athletes around their stars and we can't even get one. Sad.
Good two way athletes are uncommon and expensive. They thought that they would get them with Taurean Prince, Max, Cam, Bazemore, Lonnie, Troy Brown, etc. Lakers have lowest trade assets so they wind with the vet minimum guys. They had them in Kcp, Caruso, even over the hill Danny Green
we had some around lebron and AD in the 2nd half of the 2022-23 season in schroder, tbj, wenyen, vando (yes hes two way even tho his offense dropped in the post season)
I said before the season started, this was the season of the truth. A lot of people have been hiding behind Kobe's Death. What I mean by that is we've given a lot of people a pass because of their relationship with Kobe.
Big Facts. You're not wrong, brotha. Also, they're trying to be family oriented. So they would rather the ship sink before they let go of one of their own.
oh yea rob pelinka is def getting tired of being micromanaged so much jeanie has already vetoed 3 trades in the last 2 years. You never hear any other nba owners doing this
I will stand by my assertion that Magic Johnson built the team and set it up for an easy trade with the Pelicans for AD. Everything else that Rob has done, beyond the AD trade, has been mediocre to utterly atrocious
Easy ?? Rob screwed that up, too... Rob gave up extra draft capital in that trade because he didn't fully understand the CBA... Mo Wagner was one of the additional players that got shipped out
@@cogyak324 Are you sure Mo wasn't part of the Westbrook trade? He was a Wizard for a year or two before being a Magic player. Speaking of the Westbrook trade- I remember when it was made & a third team got involved. Pelinka realized he was getting hosed & had to ask for a few 2nd rd picks to even it out.
The main reason LeBron came to Lakers was because of Magic. The only reason AD became a Laker is because Lebron wanted him & AD wanted to play with him. It seems anything good that has happened during the Pelinka era was because that player(s) basically fell into the lap of Lakers. Knecht is the perfect example.
@rogers6168 when the Lakers traded for AD , the deal was supposed to be done. Rob was supposed to exploit a gray area in the CBA and didn't... the Lakers gave up almost extra 6 players in rookies and picks to Washington.... that is how Mo Wagner ended up in Washington... the Lakers were supposed to keep him
Lakers since acquiring LeBron (No Particular Order): 1. Traded for AD (only happened because of LBJs influence) - W 2. Lost Magic Johnson - L 3.Gave Zubac away for free (TO THE CLIPPERS🤦🏽♂️) - L 4. Lost Jay Huff - L 5. Didn’t keep KCP - L 6. Didn’t keep Malik Monk - L 7. Didn’t keep Alex Caruso - L 8. Didn’t Take advantage of LeBron’s Pay Cut proposal 9. Hasn’t fired Rob Pelinka 10. Overpaid Darvin Ham 11. TRADED FOR RUSSELL WESTBROOK (after they just clamped him up and allowed him to shoot in the playoffs literally after the lakers eliminated them🤦🏽♂️) - Worst L in history, at least top 5 I may of missed some but these are the most impactful moves that still send ripple effects down until this day that haunt the Lakers during the LeBron and AD era. The frustration comes from knowing that this team should have done way more with LBJ & AD, and with Bron presumably retiring at any moment or at most within the next 2-3 years, it’s heartbreaking knowing it may end without ever reaching its full potential. The front office is a large reason why Bron & AD have to constantly over exert themselves and cost them many winnable games. LBJ & AD era lakers should have at least 2-3 rings right now
I have been saying this, the Lakers are becoming what the New York Knicks were for the past 40 years. Exist only to make money and never to win!! fans need to stop supporting the Lakers, that is the only way Jeanie will sell the team!
magic was useless james was going 2 lakers anyway traded zu to clips 4 nothin Randle walk without nothin the perfect center 4 james Lopez did not sign so let's get some buddy who has a record
Magic did some good things, but in my opinion, Magic was hired just to be a "figurehead" to attract good free agent players. The reason I believe that is 1-Magic said he couldn't be head of basketball operations full time. Anyone knows that's not a job you can do part time and 2-Jeannie wouldn't let him fire Luke Walton with his abysmal record. That tells me he was just a figurehead.
come on man maybe it’s why some small things don’t happen but picks and assets are assets regardless of who’s giving them to you and lakers are dog and will be dog in 27 and 29’ and teams know that
You mean fire jeanie she needs to sell the team to elon musk so he can shut up about politics on twitter already since hes getting bored in life fire the rambis family too while your at it if we fire rob pelinka who tf we gonna get? nobody wants to be in that scapegoat position tht yall casual fans do with him. Yes hes fumbled like picking jhs over whitmore and tradiding too many 2nd rounders that the nba had to put a rule in for gms no to do that but lets not forget the magic hes pulled off when jeanie isnt micromanging him like big brother type shit
Magic was terrible. Hate rob all you want he still put together the team that won the championship. People said no that was just Lebron and AD being great, however it was not because we've had Lebron and AD for years and they haven't won s*** since they lost that particular team. Rob's not in full control and that's the biggest problem with the lakers they have too many cooks in the kitchen. The closest we've come to winning a championship since then was when Jeannie finally gave up on Lebron's stupid westbook idea and let rob fix it.
@@jamesjones6315 make the Lakers relevant? You do realize with him, yall dont have AD, don’t re-sign AD, and are the west Wizards because there is no evidence this front office knows how to identify good players that aren’t established starters.
@ What you’re saying would hold water if I were born in 1999. However I was born in the 1970s. I have seen way too much in Lakers history to believe that this franchise won’t rebound nor wouldn’t have rebounded without LeBron. Magic got impatient. It happens. However at the time he did it this team was only 4 years from last being in the playoffs. Do you realize how long it’s been since the Spurs made the playoffs? The Lakers will always rebound. The history is too great for them not.
Thanks for posting and talking about this topic Trevor. I have been checked out from Lakers basketball, and I have rode through with you during some hard times and hard seasons. But right now I think you are putting a pin on the frustration of Laker fans. It just doesn’t feel like this front officehas direction. It doesn’t feel like we’re even aiming for a championship. If we’re not aiming for a championship, and we’re not rebuilding, then what are we doing?
@ i’m leaning toward yes because lebron will be gone most likely after next season so there won’t be pressure on him to build a championship roster immediately & also he has a relationship with jj already
The only worry I have about the trades the Lakers need to make, if the opposite teams want 1st rd picks. Like for example, if the Wizards say, Gabe and one 1st for Jonas, would we still say yes? if the Nets, Jazz and etc say we want at least one 1st, then what? What if the nets want two 1st rd picks and the Wizards want one 1st? We only got two picks, do we give up the Wizards and give two picks to the Nets or the other way around and give one to the Wizards, give up the Nets and try to find a new deal with the other 1st rd picks? Every teams know the Lakers' situation.
You make it sound like trash Lakers have any players worth trading straight up for a player without throwing in a 1st round pick like everyone asking. 🙄The aging Queen & street clothes taking up more than 50% of salary cap leaving so much for the rest of the roster of scrubs trash Lakers could afford.😑😅
I definitely feel like regardless of how or for what reason, this is LeBron's final season with the Lakers. Also, in terms of top voters for front office, this difference is that it's no longer "three-star" league or whatever. Teams that are winning have home grown talent and one hell of a development plan. I mean, realistically speaking aside from Kobe, have we developed a true star in the last 20-30 years? The mentality has to change and the focus needs to be elsewhere. The team needs to evolve and learn how to develop because the old way of thinking isn't working anymore. If that were the case, Phoenix would have won a chip in it's current state.
This is an excellent comment and I don’t see it spoken about enough amongst Laker fans. Our team is currently operating like it is still the 90’s/00’s/10’s era and the game has simply moved on to a more sustainable way. There are younger execs employing better medium to long term strategy to ensure sustainability. Lakers are stuck in the past with their hollow championship chase…Id love a more modern approach.
Best group of comments yet!!! But for Laker "fans" and even some content creators, this will go over their heads OR it doesn't fit the current mode. As much as people hate DLO, him, Reeves and others are home grown, but LeBron "fans", Laker "fans" don't want that...hell even the FO, is shortsighted on how to build, so sadly the Lakers will be on a perpetual, creaking treadmill constantly "trying " to play for a championship that most folks know is NOT coming soon. What makes it worse is that Ty Lur did an interview and it continues to make the FO look absolutely stupid and incompetent.
Once the aging Queen joined the trash Lakers...the team became a "win now" type. 🙄Forget about developing new players or working through draft picks. 😑The aging Queen ain't got time for that. 😜Now all ya'll have is being lucky to be a play in team. 😅
@@kaferratNow you just talking. The Lakers haven't been to a finals in 10 years before Lebron & A.D. got there. When Jeanie buss took over she was pressured by the fans & the media to bring superstars & get a championship. She let them boys develop for 7+ yrs & everybody agreed they weren't going anywhere 😂. So she brought in Magic to help get superstars.
@kushajustabird7337 I'm curious what boys? Most of the young players they got through the draft were there barely 5 yrs, so seven years is a stretch...I get you want to protect LeBrons legacy, BUT PLEASE quit 💩 on the franchise that gave him his fourth championship.
It literally hurts that we went away from the vision that won us a championship. We literally had good 2-way players and went away from it. At this point the front office is just focus on the business side of things getting ready for LeBron retirement tour and trying to make as much money as they can. Smh 😭 What happened to the team i loved?
The FO moves after the Championship was the crux of the problem!! The Westbrook trade was the Death Kneel. Effectively replacing D12 and JaVale with undersized Trez and SuperSlow Gasol, and the six other moves killed the Lakers!! I argued then that getting rid of Kuz was a MAJOR MISTAKE because we had no one else on the team willing to do the dirty work AND we had no other SF/PF (you wanted to get rid of him regardless)!! The final nail was letting Caruso walk being frugal!! The complaint was that his $9M contract would effectively cost the Lakers $40M in penalties for repeat salary offenders. The other huge mistakes were letting Brook Lopez walk for nothing (Magic), trading Zubac for Messina (Magic), letting Hart go in the trade for AD (Rob), signing players from Miami (Nunn AND Vincent), and choosing THT over Caruso among other moves. It would have been even worse had Schroeder signed the 4/$84M contract and Klay signed the 4/$80M offer. The Lakers are close to the WORST FO in the NBA!! Jeanie trust incompetent people to run her team and has no idea what to do next. Rob is nothing than a used car salesman. He is completely INCOMPETENT as a GM!!
Bottom 3rd FO might be generous at this point. They are probably bottom 5. Can't trust them to rebuild, can't trust them to build a contender. The only way out is to clean house (Jeanie included).
Cwood and JV are just happy to collect a check . Thanks to Rob for paying millions to players who can't play and are not worth the money . There's at least 5 players overpaid or don't belong on a nba team .
It’s easy to blame Bron but if you don’t see the problem started when Pelinka let that bubble team break up , Pelinka could’ve kept that same core and the Westbrook deal would’ve never happen but yall don’t realize that yall just want to attack Bron
Why do we keep talking about a backup center? AD playing center is not working. How hard is that to understand? We haven’t won anything with him at center but we have won with him at PF. How doesn’t the front office not see that?
We are like these because there is currently no vision. We dont have many picks to build with like okc, we dont have many young players to start and groom like a denver did with jokic and them. And we dont have a vet team to win now like we did in 2020. The front office needs to pick between win now or rebuild. U cant have both. If they dk we will stay a middle seed team where we dont have trade assets, no good picks, anything to offer…
They efing signed LeFRAUD, his son, LEfrauds buddy as coach and was able to land an excellent rookie this summer! If there’s any reason why the Lakers suck right now is probably because of what the FO did last summer.
This was going on well before LeBron arrived.Im honestly surprised LeBron came to play for the LAKERS .If it was me No way in Hell I would have.Everyone knew Lakers was a Failing Franchise.It all started after 2012 If blaming LeBron makes you feel better.Then so be it Women tend to do that
All that hate in your heart for LeBron is not good maybe try and take a walk or something and remember just cuz LeBron probably messed up your parlay doesn’t mean it’s the end of the world for you
Even when we were making great moves 'the league' cancelled us for "basketball reasons".. which did change the trajectory of our team. Game rules have changed, and social media leached the shine of big markets. The most competent Busses aren't running the show... bad trades, bad contracts etc... oh and sending Jerry West into exile when you could have used his help... but there are half a dozen Laker pods now so.. there's that.
@@austinabney2990 Riles would have broke them physically to fix them mentally. Men need to be physically challenged all this soft mental stuff is why the NBA sucks. Basketball is a career. It’s not supposed to be fun all the time. The fans are supposed to have fun and be entertained NOT the players. Soon as people lost sight of that, the league went to sh*t. NFL coaches aint telling the team “play with joy” or “just go out and have fun” NO go out there ain’t show the world why you 450/7,000,000,000.
Good video and perspective. The front office has been making some questionable moves even towards when Kobe was about to retire. I think it's unfair that many people blame Lebron for this situation. He's not the GM or owner. Does he have some power? Sure...So do most star players but an owner and GM can still say "No" to a player. The front office allowed a good amount of people walk without gaining any assets. Giving up assets on several occasions to a person off your roster is crazy.
Yup front office has been terrible i really think this issues begins with Jeanie and the rambis family until that duo leaves this team won't get better I rather have the younger buss boys run the front office
this is why i always never understood fans defending blunders after blunders from this front office. we expect greatness from our players which is deservedly so and same with our coaches yet when it comes to our tragically bad run front office somehow we have to hold our tongue? 4 out of 5 trade deadlines no moves...600 days since last trade.other front offices running laps around our front office at the trade deadline and the free agency, mean while guys like rob sit on their asses and get paid 5 mil for doing absolutely nothing.
THE PROBLEM IS WHEN BRON WAS TRYING TO WIN AGAIN THE LAKERS FRONT OFFICE SAID NO ITS THEIR TEAM! NOW LAKERS FANS WANTS TO BLAME HIM FOR WHAT THE FRONT OFFICE LACKS! I WISHED HE NEVER WENT TO LA! DEMAND A TRADE BRON! THIS ORGANIZATION IS ASS
Half of these crap trades and decisions are because of LeGM. He exerts his influence over organizations then blames them. Also, FO has made horrible decisions. Breaking up that 2020 team was the downfall.
@alexandergrahamcracker5581 everything bron touches turn to gold. Only thing yall can hold over his head is russ. Shut that biased ish up. Why tf would lebron bring in a bunch of bum ahh role & bench players to lose and mess his legacy up. Smh you ppl are so slow and brainwashed
I wish people would stop acting like grown men and women with millions have excuses for the incompetence… I’m so surprised this section didn’t flame LeBron as their usual scapegoat. Pelinka has a job and he’s not doing it… period. When LeBron is an owner hold him accountable for office decisions… until then it ain’t his job. We are about to have two FULL seasons with zero trades and at least three players who have barely played. But then when I 50 year old sits a week yall tripping! lol! It’s so weird to me. But the thing about accountability is it has to be applied to EVERYONE. Not just where your personal biases go. Our front office is trash.
Great video Trevor, I respect the heck out of you man. Someone needs to hold LA’s front office accountable. They’ve made countless mistakes over the past decade.
Rob Pelinka should have long gone if he’s been with other franchise. He lack leadership and his incompetency to do the job. This guy promised he would make a big changes in the off-season and until now no major changes has been made.
"A period of prosperity" refers to the 1930s depression when the promise was made that "prosperity is right around the corner". It didn't come for years until WWII.
I think we're missing the point that given the Lakers history of success and the big market it is that people don't want to trade talented players to lead to a championship. Look back at trades like Shaq, Dwight, Davis, etc. On top of that the new era has more restrictions with cap space so the allure of playing for the Lakers isn't the same with an aging LeBron. I think the Lakers need to try and get a pick and roll partner for Davis that'll last after Bron retires.
As a die hard laker fan, Rob Pelinka needs to be fired... What bugs me as a fan about this franchise is that they dont develop players that can become something or draft TALENT. Since Jerry West left the franchise, this team in terms of making roster choices has been atrocious. Magic drafted Lonzo over Tatum, he was able to convince bron to come to LA, but quit when things got difficult. Yes Pelinka was able to trade for AD, however that was the only good trade hes done since taking over the GM position. Since then hes made terrible hires in the shortest amount of time, if he was a GM of any other team he would of been fired a long time ago. This lakers roster as currently constructed wont even beat a team at your local YMCA, this is how bad pelinkas decision making has been the last two seasons. The only bright light about this season so far was selecting DK at 17 in the draft this summer. If the Lakers front office doesnt get it together and quick, theyre already becoming the Dallas Cowboys of the NBA.
At the end of of the 22-23 season the lakers were seen to be in a great position while the warriors and suns were in cap hell. Less than 2 years later the warriors and suns both have much deeper teams than the lakers.
suns and warriors arent much better bruh suns have beal whos mr glass on 55 mil and KD who is their MVP gets injured too much and they cant do shit without him warriors built around a 36 year old and a shooter that regresses like 10 games in and then gets hot for 3 games then drops a dud in the playoffs and they have a sophmore in podz whos useless half the time not to mention dreymond being a team cancer at times doesnt help
Trades to Contend: -Gabe and 2nd to WAS for Jonas -DLO/RUI/JHS/Hayes and 1st to BKN for Dennis/CamJohnson/Day’Ron -Clear Up Roster Spot for Buyout Option -2.4 Mill Under Cap
It’s almost like people have been saying this front office sucks for years. 99% of the problems this team/franchise has can be traced back to an incompetent front office.
one of the biggest problems this front office has had is the incredibly stupid roster construction...imagine not getting one 2 way wing in 3 years and stacking the team with 6foot guards that cant shoot? imagine have two paint domiant super stars in lebron and ad and surrounding them with rosters constructed from 1980s with incredibly terrible shooting. they had almost the perfect formula in 2020 and even lets say they messe dup and let it go, they had 4 years to fix it and go back to it and they never did. our rosters are always bottom in shooting or defense because of how many one way players we have had.
But many clowns tried to deny it! Its a joke. 😑
Jim and Jeannie are very close in ineptitude. If the Lakers must stay in the Buss family, I wonder if the two young siblings should get more power, they seem more capable.
The fact Rob still the GM after he dismantled that bubble roster and keeps failing is an indication Jeannie now wants to prioritize profits above winning. This won’t change until LeBron retires, hopefully next season.
You’re right, this front office sucks for years. They’re so incompetent that they signed Lebron, his son and LeBrons buddy JJ as coach last summer.
Yse
It's been 3 years since the Russ trade and we still don't have a single 2way athlete around AD and Bron. I was watching the cup games last night and these teams have all these elite athletes around their stars and we can't even get one. Sad.
Great take. I’ve been watching these games and felt the same way. We’re so far away it’s not even funny
He probably shouldn't have demanded the Westbrook trade then eh?
Good two way athletes are uncommon and expensive. They thought that they would get them with Taurean Prince, Max, Cam, Bazemore, Lonnie, Troy Brown, etc. Lakers have lowest trade assets so they wind with the vet minimum guys. They had them in Kcp, Caruso, even over the hill Danny Green
@ don’t forget Jaden McDaniel and DeAndre Hunter.
we had some around lebron and AD in the 2nd half of the 2022-23 season in schroder, tbj, wenyen, vando (yes hes two way even tho his offense dropped in the post season)
I said before the season started, this was the season of the truth. A lot of people have been hiding behind Kobe's Death. What I mean by that is we've given a lot of people a pass because of their relationship with Kobe.
Big Facts. You're not wrong, brotha. Also, they're trying to be family oriented. So they would rather the ship sink before they let go of one of their own.
Yes,Pelinka
this is exactly why jeanie is never going to fire pelinka
@@Jussiizy jeanie needed to step down long ago, she's an AWFUL owner
Not alot of people.... Just 1 person... Rob Pelinka
The biggest problem is there are too many buss members with roles. It’s a marketplace.
Fire Rob to start and trade Lebron.
oh yea rob pelinka is def getting tired of being micromanaged so much
jeanie has already vetoed 3 trades in the last 2 years. You never hear any other nba owners doing this
the Lakers are run like a local gas station NOT a global corporation, its insane!
and rambis
I will stand by my assertion that Magic Johnson built the team and set it up for an easy trade with the Pelicans for AD. Everything else that Rob has done, beyond the AD trade, has been mediocre to utterly atrocious
Easy ?? Rob screwed that up, too... Rob gave up extra draft capital in that trade because he didn't fully understand the CBA... Mo Wagner was one of the additional players that got shipped out
@@cogyak324 Are you sure Mo wasn't part of the Westbrook trade? He was a Wizard for a year or two before being a Magic player. Speaking of the Westbrook trade- I remember when it was made & a third team got involved. Pelinka realized he was getting hosed & had to ask for a few 2nd rd picks to even it out.
The main reason LeBron came to Lakers was because of Magic. The only reason AD became a Laker is because Lebron wanted him & AD wanted to play with him. It seems anything good that has happened during the Pelinka era was because that player(s) basically fell into the lap of Lakers. Knecht is the perfect example.
@rogers6168 when the Lakers traded for AD , the deal was supposed to be done. Rob was supposed to exploit a gray area in the CBA and didn't... the Lakers gave up almost extra 6 players in rookies and picks to Washington.... that is how Mo Wagner ended up in Washington... the Lakers were supposed to keep him
He surrounded them with the team that won the championship without any cap space at all... 😂 Magics drafts were not good.
Lakers since acquiring LeBron (No Particular Order):
1. Traded for AD (only happened because of LBJs influence) - W
2. Lost Magic Johnson - L
3.Gave Zubac away for free (TO THE CLIPPERS🤦🏽♂️) - L
4. Lost Jay Huff - L
5. Didn’t keep KCP - L
6. Didn’t keep Malik Monk - L
7. Didn’t keep Alex Caruso - L
8. Didn’t Take advantage of LeBron’s Pay Cut proposal
9. Hasn’t fired Rob Pelinka
10. Overpaid Darvin Ham
11. TRADED FOR RUSSELL WESTBROOK (after they just clamped him up and allowed him to shoot in the playoffs literally after the lakers eliminated them🤦🏽♂️) - Worst L in history, at least top 5
I may of missed some but these are the most impactful moves that still send ripple effects down until this day that haunt the Lakers during the LeBron and AD era. The frustration comes from knowing that this team should have done way more with LBJ & AD, and with Bron presumably retiring at any moment or at most within the next 2-3 years, it’s heartbreaking knowing it may end without ever reaching its full potential. The front office is a large reason why Bron & AD have to constantly over exert themselves and cost them many winnable games. LBJ & AD era lakers should have at least 2-3 rings right now
And they dismantled the 2020 championship team. Just let Dwight Howard and Javale McGee go. 😞
That too! You keep AT LEAST one of them @@dezzy.dances
Your on point
Magic traded Zu for a washing machine and then quit, F-U him also
allowed Brook Lopez to walk.
I’m so over the buffoons at the top of the organization
Thank you for speaking on this… cause I’m done with them (Front Office)
Been done with them after they stopped trying to build a team around Kobe to win
It’s not about winning. It’s about money.
Yep
Always has been
I have been saying this, the Lakers are becoming what the New York Knicks were for the past 40 years. Exist only to make money and never to win!! fans need to stop supporting the Lakers, that is the only way Jeanie will sell the team!
FIRE SLEEPY PELINKA!
Sleepy Pelinky !!
Fire lebron and JJ.
No one really mentions it but the Lebron Era Lakers Front Office went downhill as soon as Magic Johnson left
magic was useless james was going 2 lakers anyway traded zu to clips 4 nothin Randle walk without nothin the perfect center 4 james Lopez did not sign so let's get some buddy who has a record
Magic did some good things, but in my opinion, Magic was hired just to be a "figurehead" to attract good free agent players. The reason I believe that is 1-Magic said he couldn't be head of basketball operations full time. Anyone knows that's not a job you can do part time and 2-Jeannie wouldn't let him fire Luke Walton with his abysmal record. That tells me he was just a figurehead.
Magic was the one that made the mozgov and Luol deng contracts…
@@Senza_1wrong
@@Senza_1 Those contracts were what got Kupchak fired and Magic hired if I recall.
Has Rob maybe created so many enemies while being an agent, that no one wants to do business with him as a GM?
No Nobody wants to play with Bron!
come on man maybe it’s why some small things don’t happen but picks and assets are assets regardless of who’s giving them to you and lakers are dog and will be dog in 27 and 29’ and teams know that
One of the best, if not the best video you've ever made!
I knock Trev a lot, but this video is a master stroke. I forgot half of these bone head moves by Laker FO. Bravo!!!
Can u imagine if we had caruso in that wcf vs nuggets
Yea.. seen it in the bubble lol
Rob creates all those player option contracts nobody wants to trade for🎉🎉
well now its expiring at least
Fire Rob Pelinka! 😡 👎🏼 Trade for a Big and a Wing! 🏀💜🏆
You mean fire jeanie
she needs to sell the team to elon musk so he can shut up about politics on twitter already since hes getting bored in life
fire the rambis family too while your at it
if we fire rob pelinka who tf we gonna get? nobody wants to be in that scapegoat position tht yall casual fans do with him. Yes hes fumbled like picking jhs over whitmore and tradiding too many 2nd rounders that the nba had to put a rule in for gms no to do that but lets not forget the magic hes pulled off when jeanie isnt micromanging him like big brother type shit
Welp, I BEEN saying this front office was the main problem but a lot of people didn't want to see it
So basically Rob's moves have sucked. Once Magic said he was done the magical moves stopped. lol saved everyone an hour.
Magic made some dumb moves too. He traded Zubac.
Magic also drafted Lonzo over either Tatum, Fox,
& Markkanen.
Magic was terrible. Hate rob all you want he still put together the team that won the championship. People said no that was just Lebron and AD being great, however it was not because we've had Lebron and AD for years and they haven't won s*** since they lost that particular team. Rob's not in full control and that's the biggest problem with the lakers they have too many cooks in the kitchen. The closest we've come to winning a championship since then was when Jeannie finally gave up on Lebron's stupid westbook idea and let rob fix it.
@RK-ck6pl Magic and Rob suck. 1 chip and been on the downhill since.
@@tinaguzman8351I’ll give you that.
Thanks!
I've been a Lakers fan for 42 years, and this ownership sucks. Dr. Buss was a beast, but this is ridiculous now.
Because Rob isn't a GM he's an agent.
He doesn't have a clue what he's doing Kobe wouldn't be satisfied with his choices 😢😮😮😢
such a stupid rumor bruh
This is one of best videos from you Trevor !! We are sick and tired of the Jeanie and Rob … especially when Bob Myers is available … unreal.
Love the purple flannel trev
The problem with this team in Rob Pelinka. Until he goes, we won't get better. He's completely mismanaged this franchise.
jeanie*
completly micromanaging rob pelinka too much. vetoed the trade for buddy hield and myles turner
If Bron didn’t come bail them out they’d still be in purgatory.
Yet look where we are now with Lebron. What has he done since 2020?
@@jamesjones6315more than Kuz, julius randle, brandon igram has ever done and they all have had stacked rosters 😂
@@wills.9422 Huh?
@@jamesjones6315 make the Lakers relevant? You do realize with him, yall dont have AD, don’t re-sign AD, and are the west Wizards because there is no evidence this front office knows how to identify good players that aren’t established starters.
@ What you’re saying would hold water if I were born in 1999. However I was born in the 1970s. I have seen way too much in Lakers history to believe that this franchise won’t rebound nor wouldn’t have rebounded without LeBron. Magic got impatient. It happens. However at the time he did it this team was only 4 years from last being in the playoffs. Do you realize how long it’s been since the Spurs made the playoffs?
The Lakers will always rebound. The history is too great for them not.
I'm frustrated as well.The way the lakers front office has been handling things. it's good to hear the truth.
@TrevorLane Thank you for providing the data 📊 to prove my argument about the FO. It took guts for you to do this as a Laker fan. 🎉🎉
Respect Trev. Thanks for the honest n real takes. 🙏🏾🙏🏾
can you do this for the kobe era to so everyone can know this was happening before lebron got there
You know Lakers have finally crashed out if Trevor has had enough! #FirePelinka #HireBobMyers
The reverence for the lakers walked out the door with Magic J 💫💫💫
The Lakers are the Blockbuster Video of the NBA.
Lol. Awesome! 🤣😂🤣☠️☠️☠️
Savage comment!
Lol so dumb
Why did you make this video Trev?? To make us relive our pain?? Congrats....you succeeded
The reality is, that Jeanie really doesn't care!! She's got a new dude. And Rob seems to be her choice to run the team. It's sad
Until the Buss family sells the team the Lakers are destined to remain in this purgatory. I rarely even watch the "highlights" anymore.
Thanks for posting and talking about this topic Trevor. I have been checked out from Lakers basketball, and I have rode through with you during some hard times and hard seasons. But right now I think you are putting a pin on the frustration of Laker fans. It just doesn’t feel like this front officehas direction. It doesn’t feel like we’re even aiming for a championship. If we’re not aiming for a championship, and we’re not rebuilding, then what are we doing?
Shout out to Trevor! If u think he was bias and delusional this ends it.
Definitely I give him credit for telling the truth
solution : fire pelinka hire bob myers
You think Bob would take the job?
@ i’m leaning toward yes because lebron will be gone most likely after next season so there won’t be pressure on him to build a championship roster immediately & also he has a relationship with jj already
The only worry I have about the trades the Lakers need to make, if the opposite teams want 1st rd picks. Like for example, if the Wizards say, Gabe and one 1st for Jonas, would we still say yes? if the Nets, Jazz and etc say we want at least one 1st, then what? What if the nets want two 1st rd picks and the Wizards want one 1st? We only got two picks, do we give up the Wizards and give two picks to the Nets or the other way around and give one to the Wizards, give up the Nets and try to find a new deal with the other 1st rd picks? Every teams know the Lakers' situation.
no trade is helping this team, trade
You make it sound like trash Lakers have any players worth trading straight up for a player without throwing in a 1st round pick like everyone asking. 🙄The aging Queen & street clothes taking up more than 50% of salary cap leaving so much for the rest of the roster of scrubs trash Lakers could afford.😑😅
The worst part is this . . Our representative didn't vote for ourselves, if it were possible. They voted for someone else too. 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
I definitely feel like regardless of how or for what reason, this is LeBron's final season with the Lakers. Also, in terms of top voters for front office, this difference is that it's no longer "three-star" league or whatever. Teams that are winning have home grown talent and one hell of a development plan. I mean, realistically speaking aside from Kobe, have we developed a true star in the last 20-30 years? The mentality has to change and the focus needs to be elsewhere. The team needs to evolve and learn how to develop because the old way of thinking isn't working anymore. If that were the case, Phoenix would have won a chip in it's current state.
This is an excellent comment and I don’t see it spoken about enough amongst Laker fans.
Our team is currently operating like it is still the 90’s/00’s/10’s era and the game has simply moved on to a more sustainable way. There are younger execs employing better medium to long term strategy to ensure sustainability. Lakers are stuck in the past with their hollow championship chase…Id love a more modern approach.
Best group of comments yet!!! But for Laker "fans" and even some content creators, this will go over their heads OR it doesn't fit the current mode.
As much as people hate DLO, him, Reeves and others are home grown, but LeBron "fans", Laker "fans" don't want that...hell even the FO, is shortsighted on how to build, so sadly the Lakers will be on a perpetual, creaking treadmill constantly "trying " to play for a championship that most folks know is NOT coming soon. What makes it worse is that Ty Lur did an interview and it continues to make the FO look absolutely stupid and incompetent.
Once the aging Queen joined the trash Lakers...the team became a "win now" type. 🙄Forget about developing new players or working through draft picks. 😑The aging Queen ain't got time for that. 😜Now all ya'll have is being lucky to be a play in team. 😅
@@kaferratNow you just talking. The Lakers haven't been to a finals in 10 years before Lebron & A.D. got there. When Jeanie buss took over she was pressured by the fans & the media to bring superstars & get a championship. She let them boys develop for 7+ yrs & everybody agreed they weren't going anywhere 😂. So she brought in Magic to help get superstars.
@kushajustabird7337 I'm curious what boys? Most of the young players they got through the draft were there barely 5 yrs, so seven years is a stretch...I get you want to protect LeBrons legacy, BUT PLEASE quit 💩 on the franchise that gave him his fourth championship.
Great PREACHIN Trev! Drop the MIC 💪🏼
You deserve an emmy for this
I’m glad u going through the last few years when I be chilling I be looking at it to tighten up my bets and fantasy lineup
Jeanie Buss and Rob Pelinka relationship destroyed this organization.
Fire Rob, Hire Bob. Start The Rebuild!!!
oh, that would be great, but I dont think he would want to work for an idiot like Jeannie Buss 😬
It literally hurts that we went away from the vision that won us a championship. We literally had good 2-way players and went away from it. At this point the front office is just focus on the business side of things getting ready for LeBron retirement tour and trying to make as much money as they can. Smh 😭 What happened to the team i loved?
The FO moves after the Championship was the crux of the problem!! The Westbrook trade was the Death Kneel. Effectively replacing D12 and JaVale with undersized Trez and SuperSlow Gasol, and the six other moves killed the Lakers!!
I argued then that getting rid of Kuz was a MAJOR MISTAKE because we had no one else on the team willing to do the dirty work AND we had no other SF/PF (you wanted to get rid of him regardless)!!
The final nail was letting Caruso walk being frugal!! The complaint was that his $9M contract would effectively cost the Lakers $40M in penalties for repeat salary offenders.
The other huge mistakes were letting Brook Lopez walk for nothing (Magic), trading Zubac for Messina (Magic), letting Hart go in the trade for AD (Rob), signing players from Miami (Nunn AND Vincent), and choosing THT over Caruso among other moves. It would have been even worse had Schroeder signed the 4/$84M contract and Klay signed the 4/$80M offer.
The Lakers are close to the WORST FO in the NBA!! Jeanie trust incompetent people to run her team and has no idea what to do next. Rob is nothing than a used car salesman. He is completely INCOMPETENT as a GM!!
Its unfortunate you had to use up an episode on talking about Front Office disfunctional decisions. But it was a great discussion Trevor!
So obvious what you were going with the front office thing, but you happen to be right.
Unfortunately I think they have the complacency of the cowboys . No need to do anything crazy because the money keeps coming win or loss .
Franchise has never recovered from the death of Dr. Buss.
Bottom 3rd FO might be generous at this point. They are probably bottom 5. Can't trust them to rebuild, can't trust them to build a contender. The only way out is to clean house (Jeanie included).
Cwood and JV are just happy to collect a check . Thanks to Rob for paying millions to players who can't play and are not worth the money . There's at least 5 players overpaid or don't belong on a nba team .
It’s easy to blame Bron but if you don’t see the problem started when Pelinka let that bubble team break up , Pelinka could’ve kept that same core and the Westbrook deal would’ve never happen but yall don’t realize that yall just want to attack Bron
Bron really just wanted any proven guard to play with and sadly Russ was the only one available at the time.
Lebron would have cried like he does now when they do nothing.
@ just like Kobe cried to go to the bulls before they got gasol right ?
@@wills.9422 why does he need so much? He pushed for russ. You had three non shooting “stars” in the same lineup. That’s not going to work.
@@Twix5427 kobe actually bossed up and won back to back chips.
Real talk
Bob Myers 🙏
Trev,
You have Just an Outlined a complete Disaster by Jenie & Rob!!! They’ve have just been a DISASTER!!!!!!
Why do we keep talking about a backup center? AD playing center is not working. How hard is that to understand? We haven’t won anything with him at center but we have won with him at PF. How doesn’t the front office not see that?
I truly believe Trevor would be a better GM than Pelinka. Great video and analysis. Masterpiece.
We are like these because there is currently no vision. We dont have many picks to build with like okc, we dont have many young players to start and groom like a denver did with jokic and them. And we dont have a vet team to win now like we did in 2020. The front office needs to pick between win now or rebuild. U cant have both. If they dk we will stay a middle seed team where we dont have trade assets, no good picks, anything to offer…
One of the best videos from you I have every watched - honesty and detailed
So negative, but the sad part is it’s all true… thanks for holding the fort in rough times Trevor
They efing signed LeFRAUD, his son, LEfrauds buddy as coach and was able to land an excellent rookie this summer! If there’s any reason why the Lakers suck right now is probably because of what the FO did last summer.
This was going on well before LeBron arrived.Im honestly surprised LeBron came to play for the LAKERS .If it was me No way in Hell I would have.Everyone knew Lakers was a Failing Franchise.It all started after 2012
If blaming LeBron makes you feel better.Then so be it
Women tend to do that
All that hate in your heart for LeBron is not good maybe try and take a walk or something and remember just cuz LeBron probably messed up your parlay doesn’t mean it’s the end of the world for you
If the Dr. Buss is still alive...this will not happen..Pelinka is long way gone
No one wants to talk about jeanie blocking the trades rob wanted to do like the myles turner trade.
Even when we were making great moves 'the league' cancelled us for "basketball reasons".. which did change the trajectory of our team. Game rules have changed, and social media leached the shine of big markets. The most competent Busses aren't running the show... bad trades, bad contracts etc... oh and sending Jerry West into exile when you could have used his help... but there are half a dozen Laker pods now so.. there's that.
IM SO TIRED LAKERS. IM SO TIRED OF THIS ORGANIZATION. SMFH.
Preach Trev. Hope Rob sees this
Buss Family Trust needs to let the Guggenheim Partners buy them out.
Im 59 seconda in and i feel trev understanss me!
I’m not mad at the 1 practice day, this team needed rest badly
The conditioning seems horrible. The team shouldn’t be gassed in Nov-Dec at all. Riley would’ve had them running all week.
@ I agree with you, and I honestly believe it was more of a mental break than a physical one
@@austinabney2990 Riles would have broke them physically to fix them mentally. Men need to be physically challenged all this soft mental stuff is why the NBA sucks. Basketball is a career. It’s not supposed to be fun all the time. The fans are supposed to have fun and be entertained NOT the players. Soon as people lost sight of that, the league went to sh*t. NFL coaches aint telling the team “play with joy” or “just go out and have fun” NO go out there ain’t show the world why you 450/7,000,000,000.
@ Riles was a rare breed man, they don’t really make them like that anymore
Good video and perspective. The front office has been making some questionable moves even towards when Kobe was about to retire. I think it's unfair that many people blame Lebron for this situation. He's not the GM or owner. Does he have some power? Sure...So do most star players but an owner and GM can still say "No" to a player. The front office allowed a good amount of people walk without gaining any assets. Giving up assets on several occasions to a person off your roster is crazy.
Jeanie needs to sell part of the Team to the Dodgers’s 🧢 Ownership Group (Mark Walter/Magic/Billie Jean King/etc.).
The Lakers front office has ruined Bron's last years
Yup front office has been terrible i really think this issues begins with Jeanie and the rambis family until that duo leaves this team won't get better I rather have the younger buss boys run the front office
this is why i always never understood fans defending blunders after blunders from this front office. we expect greatness from our players which is deservedly so and same with our coaches yet when it comes to our tragically bad run front office somehow we have to hold our tongue? 4 out of 5 trade deadlines no moves...600 days since last trade.other front offices running laps around our front office at the trade deadline and the free agency, mean while guys like rob sit on their asses and get paid 5 mil for doing absolutely nothing.
THE PROBLEM IS WHEN BRON WAS TRYING TO WIN AGAIN THE LAKERS FRONT OFFICE SAID NO ITS THEIR TEAM! NOW LAKERS FANS WANTS TO BLAME HIM FOR WHAT THE FRONT OFFICE LACKS! I WISHED HE NEVER WENT TO LA! DEMAND A TRADE BRON! THIS ORGANIZATION IS ASS
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Half of these crap trades and decisions are because of LeGM. He exerts his influence over organizations then blames them. Also, FO has made horrible decisions. Breaking up that 2020 team was the downfall.
@ THE 2020 TEAM WAS LEGM STAMP! THEY COULDNT EVEN GET T LUE 🤦🏾♂️ HOW PATHETIC OF A FRANCHISE
@@alexandergrahamcracker5581funny an interview with Ty Lue came out that makes you look like a clown
@alexandergrahamcracker5581 everything bron touches turn to gold. Only thing yall can hold over his head is russ. Shut that biased ish up. Why tf would lebron bring in a bunch of bum ahh role & bench players to lose and mess his legacy up. Smh you ppl are so slow and brainwashed
I wish people would stop acting like grown men and women with millions have excuses for the incompetence… I’m so surprised this section didn’t flame LeBron as their usual scapegoat. Pelinka has a job and he’s not doing it… period. When LeBron is an owner hold him accountable for office decisions… until then it ain’t his job. We are about to have two FULL seasons with zero trades and at least three players who have barely played. But then when I 50 year old sits a week yall tripping! lol! It’s so weird to me. But the thing about accountability is it has to be applied to EVERYONE. Not just where your personal biases go. Our front office is trash.
The front office should be flamed for listening to LeBron. More than one thing can be true.
To act as if LeBron doesn't exert his influence by threatening to leave is silly. LeGM had forced many bad decisions on multiple teams. See Westbrook.
This franchise is busy building statues than making the roster better
Great video finally Facts👍👍👍👍
Great video Trevor, I respect the heck out of you man. Someone needs to hold LA’s front office accountable. They’ve made countless mistakes over the past decade.
Needed and need bigs, yet got rid of DH and McGee. A couple of guys that we had for cheap.
Jeannie and Rob are the dorks being made fun of by the rest of the NBA. If Pelinka had any class he’d voluntarily retire for the good of the team.
Best analysis of the FO decisions that I've seen. Let's hope that this starts momentum to fire "Player Option" Pekinka. Or better yet, sell the team.
It's been a soap opera for 3 seasons; it's not Laker Basketball anymore.
Rob Pelinka should have long gone if he’s been with other franchise. He lack leadership and his incompetency to do the job. This guy promised he would make a big changes in the off-season and until now no major changes has been made.
How they went away froma championship team is crazy.they had the blueprint and still messed it up. What a bunch of clowns in the front office🤡. SMDH
"A period of prosperity" refers to the 1930s depression when the promise was made that "prosperity is right around the corner". It didn't come for years until WWII.
I think we're missing the point that given the Lakers history of success and the big market it is that people don't want to trade talented players to lead to a championship. Look back at trades like Shaq, Dwight, Davis, etc. On top of that the new era has more restrictions with cap space so the allure of playing for the Lakers isn't the same with an aging LeBron. I think the Lakers need to try and get a pick and roll partner for Davis that'll last after Bron retires.
I’ve been saying for the last 2 years Rob and Jeanie have to go. I give most of the blame to Jeanie. She needs to sell this team
The lakers have lost every trade they’ve made for almost a decade now … significantly over paying , even in the AD trade
big time, AD was leaving the Pels no matter what yet the Lakers gave up 3 1st round picks, insane!
This is a long winded way of saying the Buss family and that weasel Pelinka have ruined the Lakers franchise
Vent Trevor😢
As a die hard laker fan, Rob Pelinka needs to be fired... What bugs me as a fan about this franchise is that they dont develop players that can become something or draft TALENT. Since Jerry West left the franchise, this team in terms of making roster choices has been atrocious. Magic drafted Lonzo over Tatum, he was able to convince bron to come to LA, but quit when things got difficult. Yes Pelinka was able to trade for AD, however that was the only good trade hes done since taking over the GM position. Since then hes made terrible hires in the shortest amount of time, if he was a GM of any other team he would of been fired a long time ago. This lakers roster as currently constructed wont even beat a team at your local YMCA, this is how bad pelinkas decision making has been the last two seasons. The only bright light about this season so far was selecting DK at 17 in the draft this summer. If the Lakers front office doesnt get it together and quick, theyre already becoming the Dallas Cowboys of the NBA.
At the end of of the 22-23 season the lakers were seen to be in a great position while the warriors and suns were in cap hell. Less than 2 years later the warriors and suns both have much deeper teams than the lakers.
suns and warriors arent much better bruh suns have beal whos mr glass on 55 mil and KD who is their MVP gets injured too much and they cant do shit without him
warriors built around a 36 year old and a shooter that regresses like 10 games in and then gets hot for 3 games then drops a dud in the playoffs and they have a sophmore in podz whos useless half the time
not to mention dreymond being a team cancer at times doesnt help
Rebuild the front office
Trades to Contend:
-Gabe and 2nd to WAS for Jonas
-DLO/RUI/JHS/Hayes and 1st to BKN for Dennis/CamJohnson/Day’Ron
-Clear Up Roster Spot for Buyout Option
-2.4 Mill Under Cap
I think your a few 1sts short on that deal.....
@@mattrinehart9954Yeah, realistically probably another 1st for BKN
Guggenheim needs to buy the Lakers already. Even if it’s majority so Ms. Bus can still play pretend office