SPOILERS! - Ridley Scott on Why the Xenomorphs Were Created
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- Ridley Scott delves deeper into the reasons that led to the creation of the series' iconic creatures.
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I'm still quite disturbed about what happened to Shaw. poor woman.
SilverFoxUchiha Yeah,what a horrible way to die
Carlos Henrique Prado what happened
Big Boss Jdai She ate a massive burrito and literally shit herself to death.
David use her for research of the black goo :(
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David needs to find another hobby, maybe take up knitting or craftwork.
David needs therapy. Therapy for synthetics.
Knitting would suit David.
goman000 He would create the perfect sweater, warm and without delusions of morality
hmartinspliff He's good in art. Why not make paintings and sculptures also? And in the mean time, waiting for the oil paints to dry, knitting.
How about puzzling?
Cosmic horror doesn't work with backstories and explanations. It's about the fear of the unknown.
Ian Alvord yes!
Or any other horror for that matter. Remember the Thing 2011 cluster? That was awful.
Prometheus, Covenant and AI well, we need Master Chief John 117 lol
They would go well together with creators who are trying to effectively destroy a franchise. Alien and Aliens are the only two movies that matter, nothing else exists to Alien fans.
isolation was also great. but i hope that covenant goes well so they stop having to make it this action movie rather than horror and suspense not nothing is happening then suspense all the way through
Honestly, man, I was thinking the same thing. When I saw the Xenomorph fight for the first time in that film (The white one) I was like, "Yeah, they need Spartans".
Aaron Mike
Well, Halo stole from Alien first so...
Mega Guy43 i know hahaha i'm just making a joke about it hahaha
What I cant wrap my head around is the gaping plot hole this movie created when you look back at the original Alien movie. (I re-watched it a day after watching Covenant)
So, remember when the Nostromo's crew went to investigate the signal in the original movie? When Dallas, Kane and Lambert found the corpse of the Engineer, they said he's been dead a long time - long enough for him to fossilize as if he was growing out of the chair. On taking a closer look - they say he died because something "burst out of his chest". This scene takes place immediately before they stumble on the cache of Alien eggs that were sitting directly under the ship's bridge.
So if David engineered / created the xenomorphs - how can an ancient Engineer die from a chest burster? Sure, maybe it wasn't a xenomorph chestburster like we saw in Prometheus, but it feels heavily implied in the original movie. Soooo what's going on here? time travel? Or maybe David stopped by LV-426, made a queen lay hundreds of eggs under the Bridge of an Engineer ship that conveniently already had a fossilized Engineer that coincidentally died by chestburster?
You're taking it for granted that was an Engineer inside that helmet.. It's probably David..
Patrick Ryan not likely Engineers are much larger than he us having around another foot atleast in height
im not sure queens exist anymore or at least im hoping they go back to how the xeno's made eggs
Queens still exist. This isn't re-writing or changing cannon, just expanding on what we have. I actually like the idea that David created the xenos whilst he had years of curiosity... That itself is so creepy! The whole film was uncomfortable with very odd sexual tones. We just have to wait and see how queens come into play now...
The xenomorph has existed long before David created them, he followed the steps to make his own monster based on the teachings and information he gained from the engineers, there is no plot hole because the aliens in covenant are not the same as the ones in the original movie
WTF Ridley Scott?! How could David have created the Xenomorph when there were already Xenomorph eggs in the first Alien with a FOSILIZED space jokey/engineer? And in Aliens we find that the eggs are laid by a the queen alien. Is all that being red conned just to accommodate that creator/creation/god/man/etc theme from Prometheus? I can understand if David "rediscovered" the method of creating Xenomorphs but not him being what set it all off. You can't expect anyone at Fox to point out the inconsistencies as they relish continuity problems lol but come on, two of the best films in sci-fi cinema deserve better follow ups. Lord, please!
Well, Alien takes place many years into the future after covenant hence the already established colonies and widespread terraforming which means there has been ample time for events to unfold leading to the creation of a queen (I suspect using Daniels), another engineer ship being hijacked or planted with eggs and for it to end up on LV426 before being discovered.
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Actually the timeline is Prometheus (2093), and Alien (2122), a 29 year difference. Not enough time for the space jokey/engineer to be fossilized as that would take thousands of years.
They never said he was fossilised, only that he looked it. My guess is that the original film intended the space jockey to be fossilised and to have been there for a long time but because they didn't say for a fact in the first alien that the ship had been there for x amount of years, Ridley had some leeway when coming up with the prologues.
BlueMetroids The Nostromo crew didn't carbon date the Derelict. Most of their investigation was visual. Even Weyland-Yutani took the Nostromo crews findings as circumstantial. Only Ash was stated to be capable of giving an exact carbon dating of the Derelict since he's a science officer and a synthetic. As for the interior of the Derelict, there was a Xenomorph outbreak. The Xenomorphs are known to excrit a resin when they are building a hive. This would contribute on why the inside of the Derelict looks bio-mechanoid and fossilized. The pilot inside the Derelict might have been covered in this Xeno-resin. That is why the pilot looks fossilized and grafted to his chair. And as for the age of the Derelict, one could say the Derelict could be 2000+ years old since the Engineers themselves are old. But that doesn't mean the Derelict's contents/cargo is also 2000+ years old.
i agree the origin of the xenomorph should have stayed a mystery it takes to much away from them
"Can you imagine how disappointing it would be for you to hear the same thing from your creator?"
I find this line funny, in retrospect. David says this to him, but basically reasons why he makes the Xenomorphs the same exact way: Because he can. Kind of makes what Walter says about "When one note is off, the whole symphony suffers" a little more fitting.
unless covenant ends with an engineer ship, full of eggs, flying away to crash on a distant planet, there is still no explanation behind the derelict ship from Alien.
That could happen anywhere down the road. If it happened just like that, it wouldn't be as interesting.
how could it happen "down the road"? it had an engineer piloting the craft and is only set about 50 years after Prometheus. it took David 10 years to get to the engineer planet and apparently he's the inventor of the facehugger, not the engineers.
@justin g 10 year time frame is referenced in relation to the events of Prometheus, not that it took David & Shaw that long to reach Paradise. Once the Covenant crew arrives, David had already been there long enough to create the Protomorph, the eggs, experiment on Shaw etc etc.
Smeagle Reegle sorry but I believe you are incorrect. they talk about how David had 10 years of solitude between putting Shaw in stasis and arriving on their planet.
justin g I don't think he was the creator of facehuggers, since they were already "there" but he manipulated them into become the xeno/neomorph,
As an Alien fan of 20 something years, I love the revelation that the xenomorphs were created out of David's frustrations with both Man and the Engineers' imperfections. I think that after 40 years of being in media, people have gotten used to the xenomorph as a movie monster, so I like that Covenant added a new disturbing layer to it with this backstory. Now it's not the xenomorph itself that scares me as much as the rationale and process that led to its creation.
Exactly. It's the ultimate weapon created by the technology of Engineers and Humans. A coming together of two flawed species who inadvertently created things (Engineers created the pathogen and humans who in turn created David) that would go on to destroy them. The true monster of this film is ego and the desire to create. "In order to create, you must first destroy."
I just don't know why David would be so interested in a non-intellectual killing machine that face rapes and ultimately chest bursts anthropoids.
a new shitty backstory made by a shitty director that should have never gotten the chance to do it again. Yeps.
rhinehartd and it turned out NOT to be an alien but a little science experiment by a sore loser
It's still an alien because it's not of earth origin.
Ridley says this but the movie implies another thing, it implies that David was searching for a "perfect organism" better than the engineers and humans, he found it by reverse engineering the Xenomorph DNA from the black liquid, he didn't create them, he "discovered" them
Am I the only one who hates how they made an origin story for the Xenomorphs? To me they work better as mysterious monsters without a backstory. That's what made them creepy in the originals.
I hate it too. They're ripping away the mystery.
Aku Couldn't agree more. I usually think the Space Jockies, aka the Engineers, would provide some background involvement with the Xenos. Whether they created them, or use them as a type of experimental tool/weapon. Sadly, this is canon now...
is extra thicc dead yet.
I don't know I think xenomorphs origin made it more scary than before. It was scary and more scary now after I know there's an android dna mixed with them. I think it made it more scary. And same goes with the Space Jockey too.
Aku Nah, I've been waiting most of my life for answers lol.
I don't like the xenomorph origin. I know David created them and humans created David. I just hate how humans are connected to the alien origin
The Very Hungry Caterpie why are you surprised?? Humans always create weapons that kills ourselves..
The Very Hungry Caterpie yes it should have remained quite a mystery, an evolved killing machines of time immemorial.
The Very Hungry Caterpie it's like the al Qaeda origin story! 😆
But it was the engineers who created the pathogen in the canisters which David used to genetically engineer into a xenomorph. The true deadliest weapon is human curiosity, emotions and creativity which David had in him and Walter did not, for this very reason.
maccajoe the first alien worked with the mystery aspect, and Aliens. But I feel that Covenant, from what I have heard in terms of the origins, actually does work pretty well, imo. But I can also see why people wouldn't.
I really don't get why David creating them is such a sticking point for so many. David is one of the best antagonist in a while. Terrifying
To me it being revealed that David created the xenomorphs is a complete and utter let down. So for thirty plus years we've wondered who made the aliens and where did the space jockey come from. Now we find out that a robot with a god complex made that just blows!
How is that any different than the engineers creating them? I mean they were obviously created by something out of curiosity. The android in the first alien was highly curious about the scecies...im sure given the chance he would have done the same.
The android was there from the very beginning in alien series ..So story telling david created xeno is relevant in my opinion and in agree with RS.
It's okay if both of you agree with Ridley, it's your opinion. I would've liked it better if the engineers hadn't created them either. Having David as their creator just makes it seem like they want Michael Fassbender to continue his role as David. If it bombs at the box office then that'll say rather people agree with me.
But he didn't create them, at least that is my understanding, he was trying to perfect their form, he didn't create them from scratch. They are the result of the goo and human/engineer/animal mix. The question of what the goo is, and where it came from or who created is still unanswered. I recently got into the franchise so I could be missing some info, but that's how I understood it.
therock007dmx Better than having the Engineers create them. The engineers creating them would be the easy route.
I've not watched alien covenant yet but I'm sure I saw markings of the xenomorphs in Prometheus so how did David create them if images showed up of them on the planet before David even set foot on the planet?Pretty disappointed tbh that humans had such a tie in with the creation of them... I always assumed the engineers found the alien species and dissolved them on a biological level aka the black goo. Still gives a bit of mystery to the xenomorphs that way...
Daniel Johnson You see the black goo is capable of creating new life depending on the creature it interacts with,the space engineer that was sacrificed on earth to create life was not a normal one,his existence was of a single purpose,to be the seed for life on earth,if you compare him with the ones from convenant he isnt similar to them.
the Deacon in the mural is just one of many mutations that the goo creates,It can simply be a symbol of the power of the black goo.
Plus the deacon isn't a xenomorph,it's something else entirely different,all the creature that get tainted with the black goo become alien-like.
You know, I feel bad for Ridley Scott because of the lot of you fans, a majority of you don't know what you want, and so many of you are split on Prometheus that he had to compromise his original vision and try to please everyone, and ended up pleasing no one because of you people. Rather than calling him senile or a shit director or whatever, look at all of your own complaints, and be careful what you wish for.
Brian. Jr Montoya
i liked the idea of the engineers/Space jockeys and the ideas of creationism
but there were alot of really odd desscissiob and no answers given which was implied would be answered in the sequel which just didn't happen either
Chris McRedmond but people whined about aliens, so he gave them to us over the story in Prometheus and answers promised. As for Prometheus, that movie could have been fixed by one thing, replacing the writer, for the writer of that movie, though I forgot his name, has a track record that's pretty terrible. Hire a better or great writer and screen writer, problem solved. As for Covenant, I can't say anything yet, but from the looks of it, sounds better the a majority of the alien films, though maybe not assembly cut 3. So till then, I'll just have to wait until I can state my opinion on the film.
Love the logic of 'Just like stuff.... because'.
They are poor movies, they look pretty in some shots. I'll give them that.
Ridley Scott has created a new continuity to distance himself from AVP. AVP is still canon in the Predator continuity( Alien Skull in Predator 2). AVP STILL LIVES!! Even in Ridley's new universe, Predators have been introduced through the comics which are considered canon by Fox!
Roberto Santiago *Wrong!* SD Perry the writer of *Alien the Weyland-Yutani Report* revealed that 20Th Century Fox currently treats Aliens,Predator and AVP as *seperate franchises!* And her source comes from a guy who works at 20Th Century Fox itself by the name of *Josh Izzo.* And the old comics and novels of Aliens,Predator and AVP are no longer canon since Dark Horse Comics rebooted them with their _Fire and Stone_ comic series. While Fire and Stone maybe considered canon to the movies, Chris Sebela(writer of AVP Fire and Stone) stated he doesn't consider the AVP movies as canon to the comics. So Fire and Stone depicted the Predators meeting the Xenomorphs and Engineers for the first time. And the Alien skull is just an easter egg joke revealed by the special effects guys who worked at Predator 2 to see how movie goers would react. So it means nothing based on the statements of the Predator 2 special effects guys. *So AVP movies are non canon to both Alien movies and Predator movies.* *Get over it!*
I repeat; David did not create the Xenomorphs, but he merely produced his own variants of these beasts. Noting that Predator 2, AVP, AVPR, Predators, and The Predator (along with multitudes of expanded universe material) contradicts the idea that David created them (especially as all Xenomorphs ultimately has their origin in the black goo pathogen created by the Engineers), and noting further that Peter Weyland's log "Quite Eye" on the home video release of Prometheus states that the company had already detected the distress signal from the crashed Derelict ship on LV-426 before the events of Prometheus/Covenant, as well as the fact that the official novelization for Covenant has David blatantly explaining that he did not create these beasts but the Engineers did, and he merely used the black goo pathogen along with actual pre-existing Ovomorphs (Alien Eggs) crafted and left behind by the Engineers to produce his very own variants of these beasts. Besides, nobody really likes the idea of David creating the entire Xenomorph species anyway. Please, let us all be done with this already! -.-
I'm so happy when the creator just tells us instead of speculation.
i really want to make a short alien movie spin-off me self where Noomi Rapace slowly turn into new kind of alien queen but with savage behaviour aside.
Ash (nostromo) knew what he was looking at..
"You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you? Perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility."
"I admire its purity. A survivor... unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality."
So AVP is finally not canon
JAGTHEGEMINI It's was never cannon.
JAGTHEGEMINI It effectively shuts up the Predator fans who keeps on shouting _AVP is canon!_
bagsikdangal I would understand from the predator fans that it's cannon due too the timeline.
billosmal987 Except now the Xenomorphs were created in 2104 AD by a genocidal android. Which effectively ruins the _AVP Movies are canon_ dialogue since the Xenomorphs shouldn't/wouldn't exist in the year 2004 AD.
bagsikdangal I know. The Predators have been around for thousands of years before AD, this film just puts the final nail in the coffin to the people who think it's cannon :P
David didn't create the Xenomorphs. The novelization for Covenant has David explaining how the Engineers had created and left behind the Xenomorph, with him merely replicating the work of the Engineers. Also, the Peter Weyland log "Quiet Eye" states that the company already detected the distress signal from the Derelict before the events of Prometheus, and the AVP and Predator films show that Xenomorphs has existed for thousands of years (unless you wish to imply time travel technology).
you know your movie's good when the director has to make a RUclips video explaining it
to everyone wondering about how predators have been hunting them for centuries, the AVP films are not canon and therefore do not exist in the alien timeline
David creating xenomorphs? I don't like that. I prefer the Engineers creating them as a biological weapon theory.
Mister Smiley technically they were already weapons by the engineers, just David manipulate them to be what they are
Yeah and they should make that David gets Facehugged and because of that a new Xenomoprh becomes born. Could explain why the Aliens in 1-3 look biomechanical.
David is an Android, he can't be facehugged. Well he can it just won't do anything.
A Robot is like a Terminator Skeleton. Bishop has a lot organic/Synthetic stuff in his body, which you can see when he gets ripped from the Alien Queen.
There's no Organic stuff inside of him... that's all synthetic materials. Or traditional materials, either way he is still a robot.
I like where this is going actually, just think for a second, why would the "perfect organism" be so adapted to only human like creatures? its life cycle clearly need this kind of organisms. Space is huge & there is for sure other creatures where this cycle could not be possible, its "the perfect humanoid killing organism".
If Xenos were created by an android I reject this film as canon.
Damn right!! Might as well do it now cus its confirmed!
Actually it isn't. In Prometheus, we had signs, that Xenos existed before... The chestbursted engineer and the xenomorph mural.
so in short...David created the aliens because he felt like it...the end
I think there's more than just the "idle hands" explanation for the reasoning behind the Xenomorph species, that we're all familiar with, being created. I believe that David, in a twisted way, wanted to have Dr. Shaw be a mother to his perfect species. In both films it was fairly clear that David was very much fixated with her and idolized her almost in the same way a child idolizes a mother figure. Despite the fact that he viewed humanity as a deeply flawed species he found something in Shaw that he thought was worth preserving.
In Prometheus one of the main themes was the relationship between a progenitor and their creations. Shaw was incapable of having children and I believe that David used her DNA to alter the Engineer bio weapon into a form that he both believed would be perfect, by his standards, and would tribute the woman he "loved".
When you look at the Xenomorph eggs they are actually quite womb-like and if they are made from genetic material from Shaw they could be seen as replicas of her womb; each one always with child and immediately sexually mature enough to lay their own eggs. Even the Xenomorph queens are incredibly fertile, capable of churning out eggs in seeming endless supply. He created the Xenomorphs to be as fertile as possible from an infertile woman.
If you imagine this theory to be true it actually fits quite well into the themes present in both new and old movies in the Alien universe in an effort to bring them together. The Xenomorphs are David's alteration of the Engineer's bio weapon as well as his tribute to Shaw, the only human he believed to be worth anything, designed to eliminate the flawed human species that created him. It's even possible that he views them as the offspring of himself and Dr. Shaw.
Ridley Scott is George Lucas'ing the hell out of this prequel trilogy.
so if David Created the Xenomorph then how the hell have the Predator's hunted them since before the pyramids ?
am i missing some thing here ?
Crimson Ram The AvP films aren't cannon
Crimson Ram avp films are not Canon to the main alien films
ah ok that would explain it :) thanks for letting me know that
AVP is non canon and doesn't relate to the alien franchise, from what I understand.
Ridley Scott absolutely despises the Alien films and stories that he has not had a hand in creating.
so David created the xenomorph
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Yes unfortunately. In a throw away line he says he made them while tinkering in his lab. It's so lame. Terrible.
that does not make any sense
An Egg needs an Alien Queen... How was David able to save 100s of Alien Eggs under ground? How did he create the Queen? Where is the Queen?
Maybe in the next film David finds another ship, investigates and discovers that he is not the creator of the xenomorphs and finds a fossilised engineer with its chest burst. Only to find a queen and all the eggs. A better design to his own and thus the awakening that he has not created the ultimate being.
David is the new jar jar
Much preferred Prometheus over all. Bit disappointed they made Covenant into more of an Alien film. It's easier to like than Prometheus but I like that Prometheus is an acquired taste.
Liam Redmond It's more though provoking.
i like alien covenant. but yeah, they should have continued with what they originally wanted to do with the franchise. people complain about no xenomorphs in prometheus but why dont they just watch one of the many films that has xenomorphs in it? its really restrictive on the creators
Liam Redmond no l think fox and scott are doing what they really wanted to do. Prometheus showed Space Jockey revelation and origin or backstory and then they showed xenomorph revelation in covenant that's it, just like they showed super predators in predators and now will show more of their origin in the upcoming the predator
Liam Redmond They should have continued with the Prometheus storyline. Instead, AC is just fan service for Alien fans.
from what I've heard it's like Prometheus but turns to alien during the last 30 mins
I like the fact in the Alien mythos Peter Weyland created David. And how many years later his own ancestor Charles Bishop Weylan (not Weyland - that's a screw up from Aliens) had the Bishop model named after him.
It must be hysterical in the new canon that 'The Company' Weylan/Weyland Yutani want to create the Alien into a weapon and David already did between 2093 and 2104 - the time between Prometheus and Covenant. So technically as David is WY property they would own copyright on the Alien creature.
The xenomorphs never needed an origin! It totally takes away what made them so mysterious and scary. A human robot made them while tinkering in his lab with the magical black goo just a few years before the events of Alien? Terrible.
If David is the creator of Xenomorphs, then I am going to be terribly, terribly disappointed! I always thought there was something much deeper to the Xenomorphs. Maybe found by Engineers and bred by them as bio-weapons, not created by a FRIGGIN ANDROID!!! And, if that is the case, then what is the deal with all those murals in Prometheus, depicting a Xenomorph and facehuggers?! I thought Scott was keeping in touch with his work, not disregarding facts he presented in his own movies. I honestly hope this is not the case and the Xenomorph is not just an accident resulted from David's experiments. It would be an insult to everything this franchise represents...
Sorvos Prepare to be disappointed.
I don't like the idea of David creating the eggs first. Somehow, what I hope to see in the next film (wich takes place between Prometheus and Covenant) is David creating the first queen and stealing a few eggs from her. It would make more sense in my opinion.
I liked the theory of engineers creating the xenomorphs in order to fight against the Yautja
so what about the eggs on the ship in the original film? And the sculpture of the Alien in prometheus?
Thank you Ridley Scott for taking the shittiest fan fiction you could find and making it into a movie.
That's cool...!! And what about the fossilized engineer with thousand eggs in "Alien", being there for centuries?
So wait, the Xenomorph from Alien was on an Engineer ship in Alien, right? So how did David create the Xenomorphs and get them onto an Engineer ship when he wiped them out?
I've got a soft spot for Ridders, he gave us Blade Runner, but at 79 years old, he's clearly mental.
For everybody crying about the xenomorph mural in Prometheus, it doesn't need to be a xenomorph. The black goo existed and as we know, that shit makes a whole bunch of different creatures in various ways. What's stopping there from being another species in the universe that had come in contact with it? Or from being a deacon, which it resembles more than a xenomorph in the first place with it's pointy head?
'THEY have created a creature that turned against them'. So David didn't create the Xenomorphs, he perfected them. Awesome.
It's easy to figure out why David creates the Xenos if you use your head. Not everything has to be explained, it's extremely easy to gather why David creates them.
Personally since seeing Covenant I hold Ridley Scott in lower regard than George Lucas on canon for their respective universes
The ending of alien covenant is the start of the Doctor who episode The Ark in Space, look it up.
My question is what is the planet in Covenant? How can it be the Engineer home world when it only appears to have one city, and not a very large one at that. Did it have more and it just wasn't shown or was that it. If it isn't the Engineer Home World then why did David go there?
Absolutely loved Covenant, finally a film that did not disappoint.
I loved it also, but one question that I was pondering is in Prometheus, when the crew enter the chamber with the giant Head and all the vases of the black goo. Why there were effigies very reminiscent of the xenomorph on the walls?
Yeah, I did't quite get what that was about. Think I need to re-watch Prometheus, been a while
Aidan's Channel That's why Alien still has a lot of mystery.
I suspect that is because the pathogen in the containers creates a similar looking creature when it infects humanoids. If you look at it, it isn't a clear-cut xenomorph but instead has features of one such as the elongated head.
How did you watch it?
Ridley, AARP called.... They want you to retire.
Origins of the black goo?
Ridley Scott:Expired alien ice cream...
I just wanna know who was flying the derelict ship that crashed on Lv426 in Alien ? And why
I love how some fans like to ignore the facts just because they don't want to believe them, even when its standing right in their faces.
AVP is canon because there is something that contradicts what Ridley Scott says that David created the xenomorphs. In the movie Prometheus in the engineer outpost, there were drawings of Xenomorphs and a queen. The outpost has been abondoned for thousands of years, and so we have the evidence there were xenomorphs several thousand years before David. So unless David did some time travel, he did not create the Xenos, he simply created a new less advanced sub-species, it has been confirmed that David's Xenos are different than the main Xenos, saying they are the same is like saying that dogs and wolfs are the same.
It is more likely that the black goo was made by the engineers by studying the Xeno and that by exposing to living being it creates a new sub species. Remenber the Xenos in alien covenant look and behave differently but the eggs are also different.
Are you all forgetting that their were pictures of the xenomorph in the tomb they found. The xenomprphs were not created by David just restarted.
Making David the creator of the Xenomorph was a terrible idea. In the novel he didn't create them, simply reused what the engineers had already done. For some reason Ridley changed it, I guess because the only thing he cares about in these movie is David the insane robot with daddy issues.
So how come the mural in prometheus had a xeno like creature?
nah Engineers did, that's why there's a mural in Prometheus. I don't care what Scott says it was in a deleted scene THAT David is just trying to perfect them to be obedient.
One of these movies needs to have the Colonial Marines
i think there's some scenes that has been deleted from the movie. i just watch it and got a little confused with the story.
if David created the xeno how was the ship in alien fossilised and why was the murial in prometheus depictin the xeno life cycle??
Here's a question for Ridley: Why do the aliens need to be "created" at all? On that note, why did humans need to be "created"? Why do these movies acre so much, attributing the "who's our creator" question as the one thing that supercedes all else. Really?
Wouldn't evolution forming various life forms on various planets, with some life being more formidable and terrifying than others, be more interesting? Personally, the notion that we all have creators, and all the creators and creations are humanoid, is insanely... boring.
Alien is meant to be a horror genre, where the suspense, stalking, dark corners, and mystery are what's intriguing. Horror enthusiasts don't need or want to know the how's or why's, leave that for philosophy and drama.
His theory makes no sense. They're way older than that.
David creating them is bad because we already had ancient civ designing and creating life. Maybe they had some practical reason (btw, we create robots not because we can, but because they are useful and advance our civ (yes, they are part of it)), maybe it's more like religion, their meaning of life, holy mission to Universe... sounds good, and if developed enough could be REALLY cool.
Android creating not other androids, robots, someone useful to him, but hungry monsters who would kill him as well is very strange and illogical. Ok, strange could be interesting, but it's not for most people, because that story is more stupid that anything else.
i wish avp was still cannon
Ewww, why?
Terrible films
Only the second one was bad and even then they had good concepts.
AVP remains canon in the Predator universe! Where the events in the original ALIEN films took place! Not Covenant!
Here is how I see it and I hope it's right because I don't like the idea of David creating the alien... David is using the base of the alien and is just trying to perfect it. He didn't create the xenomorph but he helped make it the perfect organism we all know and love! I love the idea of the engineers creating them as a boi weapon!!!
guys there still one more film to see on this prequel trioly, to be honest im lovig the origin story that prometieus and covenant are telling and im pretty shure that the third movie will awenser all of our questions, what wuld be the fun if covenant awensered all of the questions?
soo be patient guys the third movie shuld be out in 2019 0r 2020
I can't wait for the Alien Covenant Director's Cut.
If David created the Xenomorphs... How did thousands of their eggs end up on the Engineers ship for thousands of years before being discovered on LV426 in Alien?
but David didn't know what he was doing. he was testing the black liquid to see if it would help the old guy. its not like he know that a new species would be made
So? Humans do that all the time and when power or new tech that can change the world is presented to you, you get crazy.
what does that have to do with what I said? the video made it sound that David knew he was creating the xenomorph species. I wrote he had no idea. then you write some nonsense about new technology and going crazy. that has nothing to do with my comment
I understood what he was talking about I didn't even think that anyone could misunderstand the basic idea. The idea is that he made them by mistake unknowingly and they make that point at the start. What part confused you?
I understood everything until you said new tech. don't really get what you mean by power and going crazy. its fine though
What about in alien vs predator , where predators were fighting aliens in Aztec times?
so a blatent case of ridley scott not understanding what people liked about alien and just wanting to make a movie about some crap he think is interesting.
Exactly my thoughts. Feels good.
Spoiler warning for any other loonies
Can anyone tell me how David survived his fight with Walther.Because I didn't get the twist in the end and felt like I was missing an important detail.Thank you in advance.
we see that david look a cut and the scene stop so he propably take it to win the fight against walter
With the fight with Walter, he was reaching for a knife while asking Walter whether he'll reign in hell or serve in heaven. It cuts back to others escaping, but I think David uses the knife to either stab Walter in the side of his neck again or he just slices and dices him some other way, takes his clothes and then David cuts his own hand off. When Tennessee and Daniels dispose of the 2nd Protomorph and are about to go into Cryosleep, Daniels reminds 'Walter' of her original plan to make a house on Origae-6, and asks him to help her, but he doesn't know what she's talking about, this reveals 'Walter' to be David.
I think David transferred his programming into Walters body somehow which explains the accent and similarity, walters more advanced technologically but David has a completely free reign over his programming and technology
I definitely liked the idea that they (the xenomorphs) had their own home world, and it was like taking a highly advanced super predator, and placing it in an environment where it no longer had natural predators of its own. To think something like THAT could come from nature... now that is terrifying.
I don't personally care for this black goo version, I'm afraid.
The biomechanical aspects of Xenomorphs and their apparently high compatibility with humanoid hosts has been extremely suspect since the original movie. Furthermore, I like the fact that these creatures are based on parasitic wasps, which can be found on Earth, adding a realistic and believable element to the entire matter. Lastly, it is just my theory, but I do not think Engineers were as good 'creators' as it may seem; they appear to be dogmatic, religious and overall inflexible. Perhaps a more multi-variant way of thinking that androids exhibit would indeed be superior to both Engineer and Human minds?
People want to know more about the Alien but they dont want a origin story ! they want to feel want they felt when they saw Alien for the first time but they dont want a remake ! Everyone is a expert but half of you think that AvP is cannon !...
I think with the xenomorph been made probably the enviro scene maybe he puts one in the decon to make the xenomorph
If you look up Hipster you get this interviewer
ok so i get that david engineers them throught experiments but how did he get the eggs without a queen!?
There,s no answer the movie messes up the lore making Alien to Reseruction non cannon they should of left stupid scientists do stupid thing and made a hole movie with just Engineers, better still do what david lynch did with Eraserhead make a movie that tells it's story through imagery.
Chris McRedmond To be fair, David said to Capt Oram the eggs are waiting for *mother.* You could say David intended to have his creations a Queen since he mentioned the word *mother.* Now that he has 2000 test subjects, he has more time to perfect this Xenos. You could say the Xenos here are David's test run.
sir ridley, the only reason i went to watch the alien covenent is coz of dr.shaw and yeah of course david. but want i got? a glimpse of mutilated corpse of dr.shaw. seriously? prometheaus gave such a potential to make a second part about it but instead you listened to 14 year old fan fuckit's who hated that film and made an alien film. well but covenent has actually got bit prometheus-ish style but c'on, dr.shaw!
Disappointed
It makes it all the more creepy and reflects the tone of the film where people are not special but instead imperfect organisms.
Krishna Teja I hated Prometheus and Covenant dissapointed me they should just reboot the alien franchise already
Krishna Teja I agree but he was forced to, if it was like Prometheus then "fans" would be dissapointed, needed more gore and action to be a big film of 2017
Scott is 80 yo. He has to retired, he's too old for this shit. not all directors age well, he clearly hasn't. Prometheus had potential and they could have fixed the plot holes with this movie while continuing in the same direction . Instead they made an half mess just to please "fans" who bitched about Prometheus not being enough Alien like. Killing Shaw to me was like killing Newt and Hicks
I agree mate, he tried to get some kind of middle ground and ended up pleasing neither faction:
- For Alien fans, the film does not have enough of the mystery or tension of the previous films, and they were given a nonsensical origin that contradicts the previous entries.
- For Prometheus fans, the promise of the previous film's Engineer plotline was squandered, instead of Shaw meeting the creators she was killed off-screen along with seemingly the last of the Engineer civilisation in order to turn it into an Alien prequel.
Although I'm not a big supporter of what Prometheus was doing, I would have rather Ridley stuck to his guns instead of compromising his original vision to make a film that doesn't know what it wants to be.
Okay its time I say it here since people are complaining about how Alien Covenant contradicted the first Alien film. Which is not really the case. If you watch the first Alien film, the crew of the Nostromo only investigated in a visual approach. As much as you guys want to complain, the Nostromo crew did not carbon date the interior of the Derelict ship. They didn't even bring any carbon dating equipment with them whatsoever. All the things that the Nostromo crew stated are based on speculation. Even the company Weyland-Yutani took the Nostromo crews findings as circumstantial. Only Ash is qualified to carbon date the Derelict since he's an artificial person and the Nostromo crews science officer. As for why the interior of the Nostromo looked bio-mechanoid and fossilized, there was a Xenomorph outbreak that occured. Xenomorphs are known to secrit resins when building their hives. The resin possibly fossilized in a short amount of time. This is the reason for the bio-mechanoid and fossilized look of the Derelict's interior. The Space Jockey/Pilot would have been covered in the Xeno-resin which would explain being fused on his chair and looking fossilized since Xenomorphs would establish a hive inside the Derelict. Again! The Nostromo crew did not carbon date the ship. You all can point out the Derelict is 2000+ years old. That doesn't mean the contents/cargo of the Derelict is also 2000 years old. This is like me owning a 35 year old car(Derelict) and I put fruits(Xenomorph eggs) inside it. Then I abandoned the car(Derelict) and left it in a place for 5 years. The car(Derelict) would be 40 years old but the fruits(Xenomorph eggs) are only 5 years old. In conclusion, Ridley Scott pulled off a plot device loophole and Alien Covenant hasn't contradicted the first Alien film. Complain if the sequel Alien Awakening messes up the established canon. But for now, Alien Covenant is part of the Alien canon😎
Why are Hollywood so obsessed with "reboots", "prequels" and "origin stories" nowadays? Why is everything have to be explained? Why must every single origin story have to be told? Some things are best to let be unknown.
Man Gav got to meet Ridley freakin Scott I'm so jealous.
Alien was part of my childhood
David did not make the Xenomorphs, he mutated an existing species that we still don't know much about.
I wish the xenomorph wasn't created.they now don't feel like a alien.better if they just existed that way it's more scary and makes you think what else could be out there, instead the alien universe feels empty.all we know now is the engineers are the only alien race we've discovered.
Prometheus and Alien Covent are basically fanfic at this point. David created the xenomorph? Get outta here.
so it was 10 years between Prometheus and covenant if I get Ridley Scott's comment on david.?
I enjoyed the film but I can't shed away the feeling that we need better sequels for the Alien Saga to be completed.
Since there's going to be 1 or more films before the timeline of original Alien, we should not hasten to the conclusion.
Alien Covenant is the philosophical problem or solution of an external force using an original and its replication as replications of each other
Sir Ridley Scott. Now eventually you do plan to have Engineers on your, on your Engineers movies, right? Hello?
Why are people struggling to understand something as basic as this? David's motives were pretty clear. Is it that hard for people to simply ponder what they've seen in a film, and perhaps detect blatant metaphors and symbolism? Or am I asking too much? I think maybe it's easier for people to convince themselves that the film just did a bad job at explaining it, or that it didn't even attempt to, and that it was a flawed film because of it.
Ok i know now why this shit happend. Ridley Scott was working on Prometheus 2, there was even al movie poster but maybe the studio wantet an "Alien" Movie.
No, the people wanted a alien movie. That was the #1 complaint from Prometheus.
0:54 lol