I had a cousin who died at Pennhurst back in 1959. Two days before his death he had lapsed into a coma and no one from the hospital even notified my aunt. They called to inform her and apparently had said "Billy died" and that was it. No compassion no nothing.
Oh my god! That's so sad! See. Real people lived and died here. It should not be an attraction. It should be torn down. Help the other ones still there pass on and make into a garden. With a plaque of all who lived, sufferd. And died there.
@@daniellebaker7778 the tearing down part, i respectfully disagree with. Pennhurst should recieve the same treatment as Auschwitz; As a monument for future generations to look back and learn of the atrocities and cruelty that happenes on its grounds.
My mom grew up a few miles away from Pennhurst and she would tell me about hearing screams at night from the asylum when she was young. I'm glad it's abandon now
Often, when posting about asylums, we try to remind people that being underfunded is the primary reason that much of the abuse of patients occurred. However, underfunding alone cannot excuse those responsible for abusing patients. It was their job to care for the people here to the best of their ability, and though severely hindered by the lack of funds, one cannot simply ignore the fact that many of Pennhurst's employees cared little for the welfare of those they had been entrusted with.
That is a problem with a feeling of superiority and that those people are below you and not worth love, compassion, or even affection. That kind of thinking is taught. Eugenics was alive and well during this institutions running days. I'm sorry if this offends.
I went there for a tour of it with my mom and it made me cry it gave me such negative vibes when I went in the basements of the houses.. it hurts me that they had to live like that.
You blended the documentary footage and audio wonderfully with your own video footage. Both this video and your photogrpahs have such a haunting, eerie feeling to them.
All of your videos are spectacular and haunting. Pennhurst was but one of the many asylums across the US. It was hell on earth not only for the residents but for the staff as well. The pay was abysmal and many of the patients were extremely violent. These state run facilities were starved for money and turnover was rampant. This was a perfect recipe for abuse and neglect. And so it went year after year. There were no winners in this mess.
The idea of the facility being self sufficient was a grand idea and sadly it was understaffed, a beautiful campus where horrific things had happened... because of pure ignorance and being understaffed and it became a cycle of abuse. I have known a few of the beautiful people that had endured the walls of Pennhurst and am a better person because of knowing and loving them.
I find Pennhurst to be especially frightening because of the idea it was created under. Everyone who was different or eccentric was to be sent there along with people who suffered seizure disorders. The place was worse that a prison. I was more like a Nazi death camp than we care to admit.
It is a terrible history for sure, but one which we should make sure is never forgotten. It was upsetting for us to even make this video, as we had to sit through a lot of old footage, much of which was hard to watch.
I hate that Pennhurst is now a huanted attraction( and apparently #1 in the country according to hauntworld.com). Real lives were destroyed here. These historic buildings should remain only as a reminder of our nation's past failures, and not as a form of entertainment.
Pennhurst maybe a haunted "attraction", to some. But to others, like me, it can be a way to prove that there is some kind of life after death...And I truly believe that some of the people who unfortunately died there, those who could not speak for themselves when they were alive, may be able to do so now, and may feel some possible comfort and validation in the fact that someone is trying to acknowledge them now, trying to give them the voice they were not able to use before.
Oh give me a break. Even if what you say is true, making a joke out of the torture they endured there is not giving them a voice. How many Pennhurst survivors do you know? Would you be able to bring them there during the month if October?
Alyssa Tyson You should reply directly to whom you're speaking to... Anyway, no one made a joke out of Pennhurst, unless you're referring to my comment, which wasn't intended to make fun of the people that suffered there. I hope you didn't take offense to what I said, but is there really any reason for you to do so? I understand, it sucked and all, and it was a terrible, terrible place, but unless you were directly related to/knew someone who was at Pennhurst, I don't really see any reason to be offended.
My phone won't let me tag. It is pointless do so on such a short thread. There are two people who responded to my comment and I replied shortly after Deb's comment, so I figured it was pretty obvious. Especially since there is really nothing to respond to in yours. During October, one of the buildings is turned into a place to visit for a "fun scare" (not just a ghost tour). The people and their experiences are mocked. Should we also turn concentration camps into something entertaining for Halloween? Survivors deserve more respect and those grounds should remain an educational piece of history, a reminder to how society can fail itself.
So powerfully haunting... excellent as always. Thank you for your tribute to those who languished at this "monument to apathy" ... and the ruins that remain as testimony to those who suffered. This is one place where the emptiness and the slow rotting of the walls seems fitting, somehow... the mere fact that this place is empty seems almost an appropriate memorial in itself.
We could not agree more. Sometimes just the remaining husk is monument enough, that's why we would like to see it saved from collapse. To physically see the place, in person, imbues the viewer with a deep respect for what transpired here years ago.
I care for individuals with developmental disabilities. We have come a long way. They live amazing lives now, even though we can and are working hard on them living more inclusive independent lives. We still have a way to go. It breaks my heart to think of anyone being treated in such a manner.
I don't live far from pennhurst i heard it is very haunted and that they do tours.. This may be a dumb question but is the Building abandoned yet or are they touring I the actual Asylum?
Pennhurst was the result of govt funding, low staffing and poor medical care. Pa Govt has to take the blame for this one. As a result training became better, staffing became better, medical care is 24/7 and repairs were made. The govt uses this catastrophe as a public scare tactic but it's not the truth now. Persons are thriving, are living longer and are happy. They now have their own community where they feel they belong with their own friends, their social gatherings where everyone happily participates and they aren't ostracized like they are in the public. No stares, whispering and moving away because someone feels uncomfortable. They feel they have a HOME and BELONG.
The people in the Pa Govt need tpcbel it in a place like that. Dumb idiots who r in the Pennsylvania Government,YOU SHOULD ALL BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES STILL TODAY. YOU PEOPLE IN THE PENNSYLVANIA GOVERNMENT R ALL CORRUPT.
I think its completely disrespectful to have the property as a haunted house attraction for Halloween. Its fine for a spot for Ghost hunters, because they're not desecrating this place of horrors. I would say to tear it down, but.. Its become a reminder of the past. Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it. This is a part of history that does NOT need to be repeated.
id rather it be a haunted house then have it torn down. thats the only thing keeping it standing today. plus its a great haunted house. id love to make Danvers into a haunted attraction but its apartments now.
You make a valid point, however we as a society are definitely far more compassionate and understanding toward the mentally handicapped than fifty years ago. Thanks for the video suggestion, we will be sure to check it out.
I truly hope that we didn't come across as blaming the whole of Pennhurst's staff as being at fault for the abuse. Lack of funding played a major role in rapid downturn of the facility, and prolonged abuse which the patients were forced to endure. That being said - Many (not all) of the people who were employed at Pennhurst clearly cared little for the patients they were in charge of. These staff members, on a base level, were clearly not fit to care for people.
Side note On My Soap Box and I Am Not Sorry : I am reading this chapter on Moral therapy for those who are mentally disturbed for my General Psychology class ... and seriously disgusted that people who had no control over their mental issues were treated so poorly. Where in the Bible did they say treat those who are mentally disabled as if they are garbage. Rather then put them through all of the torture it would had been more humane for them to just kill them ..... Unreal! (I am not naive to never think about this before, but never really put much thought into it!) 1 Timothy 5:8 we read: “Certainly if anyone does not provide for those who are his own, and especially for those who are members of his household, he has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith.” No exception is made for members of the household who are sick. So does this mean that people who practice these awful actions are automatically removed from the book to enter Heaven? The illness of depression, bipolar and the like are not somethings that fall into the Bibles scriptures. They were likely to be considered possessions by demons etc, but even so, they were treated with compassion by Jesus. These are illnesses, the Bible doesn't condone the treatment that these people were put through over several hundred years, or specify which illnesses are eligible for compassion. People with these illnesses do have an idea to an extent, some may not. With this known, did they not think these people realized how badly they were treated in some instances? Knowing your going to be treated that badly or are treated badly why would anyone get any better? Your putting them in a stigma for life. It wasn't that long ago that PA had a hospital closed because of the treatment of its patients ..... We are not talking only in the 1700s people! Even today, practices continue in some places, probably not as frequent as in the past. Truly do they teach this BS in med school ? Or are they making it up as they go playing God and deciding a persons fate. Maybe the fact that I have some mental disorders makes me more apt to get mad (Nothing Crazy or Hospital Bound!). It just sickens me that so many people were treated wrongly, so many talents put to waste, and so many lives ruined. Maybe I am just getting older and look deeper in the wrong doings of man. Maybe it's my experience with having a mentally handicapped woman live with me (Fran) as difficult as it was. Fran was mentally retarded, she trusted no one. PA did nothing to help her get help. So where is the compassion for these people? From the public and government? We tried so hard to get her the help she needed and it was never handled or maintained no matter how hard we tried. I was flying high and happy.... and suddenly the thought of this has made me mad and in tears. I didn't even get past the 2nd page. At what point did we as society stop caring for those who couldn't care for themselves? We offer them half ass treatments, put them in a stigma, mistreat them and toss them away. Is our own needs more important that helping others and reaping the benefits from a higher power? Greed and ignorance is all I have to say. Thoughts? I don't expect people to respond to this.... just another example of how society ignores issues. For those who do, would love to hear it. - feeling disgusted.
The bible has lots of truth that ppl don't want to look up too and follow one of the many reasons this nation morals are falling apart illnesses and many other factors that contribute to accept sin and not accepting the reality that Gods judgement is upon us . The only thing for us as believers is to Pray that God have mercy on our Nation
Antonio Rodriguez The bible isn't any means of salvation or any type of guideline, it's just a book, written by man, printed by man. Open a science textboox instead, you'll be happier
Antonio Rodriguez What the fuck are you talking about? If you think there is some ascended being controlling your life, you need to stay at Pennhurst for a while, buddy
Sorry bud no one controls my life as I see someone else controlling you and not letting you see life . Just by the way you express yourself talks alot of what you missing of . Accept Christ as your Saviour He is the Way Truth and Life. and be born again ... By the way talking big and tough means your weak...
The overall concept was way ahead of its time, and truly beautiful in theory. Shame that what was intended as a way for us to care for the less-fortunate quickly crumbled to what we now know as a very dark time in the history of mental healthcare. With proper funding (nationally), and a well-selected staff, we could have been a global beacon of the goodness in mankind - An example by which others would have likely followed. What we ended up with, however, is close to the opposite.
I disagree with the whole concept because it is bassed on eugenics. Eugenics IS a crime against humanity and every time it's tried we'll have another Pennhurst.
This place and others should still be open! Out of sight, out of mind! You can directly correlate the decline in society with the closure of these places! We stopped allowing corporal punishment in schools, allowed kids to talk back in school and sue the school, took prayer away from school and let all the people out of these hospitals. Sure enough, look at all of the horrific crimes, mass shootings, etc.
Im sorry for all the mental who was there because they are people too but there brain works diffrently my mom works with tose kind of people and they love her like crazy cause she treates them the same way you would like to be treated
This is vile just because their I'll and can't help the way they act don't mean they should be treated like animals sort it out humans start looking after eachother instead tearing eachother apart
Letchworth is the one I was thinking of. Thanks! I knew about Willowbrook too. I saw The Last Great Disgrace. I also saw when Ghost Adventures went to Letchworth Village. Scary place. I'll look for your video on it although I may have already seen it. I will check it out though. Did you experience anything paranormal at Letchworth?
The old clips are key to understanding what occurred here. Reading about these kinds of issues is one thing, but unlike many of our films, we were actually able to SHOW the viewers what transpired here during its time of use. Sure, there is a lot of old footage, but without it the modern-day shots would lose a lot of their impact. Also, the footage shown in this video is the culmination of an entire day shooting. No footage was left on the cutting room floor, every shot was used.
Thank you @AntiquityEchoes from the bottom of my heart and so many others, to showing us the atrocities that occurred there, and giving the patients there faces and there voices back 🥲😔🫂 I can hope the lost soul's there can find peace an be free 💞
People tend to resent America for the past we won't forget. For the things we constantly bring to justice or at least try to. We do these things like documentaries to propagate against these conditions. It's a reoccurring theme amongst the republic and when we look away, that's when they've exploited us.
I have been there way before they turned it into a tour. I also have several 29 page books that are the report to the state dated 1922-1924. If interested in purchasing one let me know. $100.00 each. Very, Very rare.
Geraldo documented Willowbrook, and to a smaller extent Letchworth Village, in his expose "The Last Great Disgrace". Different places, but similar stories of neglect and abuse. We have a video on that place as well - Just look through our videos for "The Disgrace of Letchworth Village".
Is this the same one that Geraldo Rivera did the expose on? The one that Ghost Adventures went to? I know there were several of these places around the country that were terrible.
Luckily the social taboo of raising a (physically or mentally) handicapped child is long behind us. We owe this progress to those who suffered through it.
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No winners, only survivors. The base idea of a state-run asylum, to care for those who couldn't care for themselves is a noble idea. As it is with all great intentions though - if it doesn't turn a profit, most don't bother to care.
These people got to change people be looking on Google and when I looked on Google I saw a asylum assignment was creepy there's a sick get tree guard I don't want to skit for the guard to die what happens if the skater need guard dies these people need to change their craziness or they're going to line up people are going to wind up somewhere they don't want to be at in asylum
I live near Pennhurst. Everyone knows about it, no one cares. The asylum was bad but it has been closed for decades now. Most people don't even remember it
@@AntiquityEchoes Well everyone knows what it is but it's a halloween tourist trap now. It's almost a rite of passage to get kicked off the property as a teenager. I had a middle school teacher who worked there when it was still an asylum and he didn't say anything bad about it but there's only so much you would tell a 13 year old kid when you're at work too I guess. I was interested in it back then but there were no videos of the asylum from when it was functional on RUclips, that has changed tho
We hate it just as much as you do (though you obviously possess a unique perspective on the subject). To the younger generations, the kind of world depicted in this video may as well be ancient history. While this is obviously for the best, we must never disconnect so far from such moments in history that we lose touch with it.
I grew up in a very liberal/progressive county. However.....if you have any transgressions with the law in Va. at some point the will ask if there is any mental retardation in your family. The term "retarded" was considered okay at the time, and is still in use. It replaced terms like "idiot", "moron" and "imbecile". These are/were medical terms at the time!
When the Sandy Hook massacre took place there was all this talk about screening every body with a diagnosis of personality or mental disorders being banned. I wasn't so much against that, but we have close to 1/3 of countries populace on some sort of psychotropic. That's 130 million people. I was so afraid that society was reversing itself. The kind of impairments that would disqualify someone are so severe that they never would or could perform such a deed. Besides it's not illness it's anger.
I can't watch stuff like this. It makes me too sad. I have my higher degrees in rehab and impairment. The past is horrendous. Mainstreaming, has become so successful that these kind of situations are no longer tolerated in most places of the world.
I had a cousin who died at Pennhurst back in 1959. Two days before his death he had lapsed into a coma and no one from the hospital even notified my aunt. They called to inform her and apparently had said "Billy died" and that was it. No compassion no nothing.
No explaination
No one gives a shit
Oh my god! That's so sad! See. Real people lived and died here. It should not be an attraction. It should be torn down. Help the other ones still there pass on and make into a garden. With a plaque of all who lived, sufferd. And died there.
@@leslie2967 only you don't. At least 41 people do. No need to be rude.
@@daniellebaker7778 the tearing down part, i respectfully disagree with. Pennhurst should recieve the same treatment as Auschwitz; As a monument for future generations to look back and learn of the atrocities and cruelty that happenes on its grounds.
My mom grew up a few miles away from Pennhurst and she would tell me about hearing screams at night from the asylum when she was young. I'm glad it's abandon now
The best compliment we can hope to receive is to hear that someone learned something from our work. Thank you.
Often, when posting about asylums, we try to remind people that being underfunded is the primary reason that much of the abuse of patients occurred. However, underfunding alone cannot excuse those responsible for abusing patients. It was their job to care for the people here to the best of their ability, and though severely hindered by the lack of funds, one cannot simply ignore the fact that many of Pennhurst's employees cared little for the welfare of those they had been entrusted with.
That is a problem with a feeling of superiority and that those people are below you and not worth love, compassion, or even affection. That kind of thinking is taught. Eugenics was alive and well during this institutions running days. I'm sorry if this offends.
I went there for a tour of it with my mom and it made me cry it gave me such negative vibes when I went in the basements of the houses.. it hurts me that they had to live like that.
You blended the documentary footage and audio wonderfully with your own video footage. Both this video and your photogrpahs have such a haunting, eerie feeling to them.
All of your videos are spectacular and haunting. Pennhurst was but one of the many asylums across the US. It was hell on earth not only for the residents but for the staff as well. The pay was abysmal and many of the patients were extremely violent. These state run facilities were starved for money and turnover was rampant. This was a perfect recipe for abuse and neglect. And so it went year after year. There were no winners in this mess.
The idea of the facility being self sufficient was a grand idea and sadly it was understaffed, a beautiful campus where horrific things had happened... because of pure ignorance and being understaffed and it became a cycle of abuse. I have known a few of the beautiful people that had endured the walls of Pennhurst and am a better person because of knowing and loving them.
children hunger for any sign of affection! This made me cry!
so sad
I find Pennhurst to be especially frightening because of the idea it was created under.
Everyone who was different or eccentric was to be sent there along with people who suffered seizure disorders. The place was worse that a prison.
I was more like a Nazi death camp than we care to admit.
A lot of the scientific experiments that happened at Pennhurst, Nazi's adopted and expanded on.
America came up with a lot of ideas, the nazis just expanded on them.
@@aundreao.1925 ... Fact.
@@aundreao.1925 ... Just Google: Dr. Madison Grant, Eugenics, Scientific Racism, and The Nordic Theory. It was REAL. ♤
shut up to all of you that are saying this should not been seen this is all true and people should be aware !!!
It is a terrible history for sure, but one which we should make sure is never forgotten. It was upsetting for us to even make this video, as we had to sit through a lot of old footage, much of which was hard to watch.
Well the family's didn't want to deal with them so there as much to blame
The footage is so haunting 😢😰, I just wanted to hug those beautiful souls and take them all away from that horrible place.
I hate that Pennhurst is now a huanted attraction( and apparently #1 in the country according to hauntworld.com). Real lives were destroyed here. These historic buildings should remain only as a reminder of our nation's past failures, and not as a form of entertainment.
But spooky scary skeletons.
Pennhurst maybe a haunted "attraction", to some. But to others, like me, it can be a way to prove that there is some kind of life after death...And I truly believe that some of the people who unfortunately died there, those who could not speak for themselves when they were alive, may be able to do so now, and may feel some possible comfort and validation in the fact that someone is trying to acknowledge them now, trying to give them the voice they were not able to use before.
Oh give me a break. Even if what you say is true, making a joke out of the torture they endured there is not giving them a voice. How many Pennhurst survivors do you know? Would you be able to bring them there during the month if October?
Alyssa Tyson You should reply directly to whom you're speaking to... Anyway, no one made a joke out of Pennhurst, unless you're referring to my comment, which wasn't intended to make fun of the people that suffered there. I hope you didn't take offense to what I said, but is there really any reason for you to do so? I understand, it sucked and all, and it was a terrible, terrible place, but unless you were directly related to/knew someone who was at Pennhurst, I don't really see any reason to be offended.
My phone won't let me tag. It is pointless do so on such a short thread. There are two people who responded to my comment and I replied shortly after Deb's comment, so I figured it was pretty obvious. Especially since there is really nothing to respond to in yours. During October, one of the buildings is turned into a place to visit for a "fun scare" (not just a ghost tour). The people and their experiences are mocked. Should we also turn concentration camps into something entertaining for Halloween? Survivors deserve more respect and those grounds should remain an educational piece of history, a reminder to how society can fail itself.
So powerfully haunting... excellent as always. Thank you for your tribute to those who languished at this "monument to apathy" ... and the ruins that remain as testimony to those who suffered. This is one place where the emptiness and the slow rotting of the walls seems fitting, somehow... the mere fact that this place is empty seems almost an appropriate memorial in itself.
They have very few mental hospitals now, these people usually just end up in prison now, this is also wrong. Mentally I'll people need special care.
You know who should be in prison, EVERYONE IN OUR F*CKIN GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!
Thank you very much, "haunting" and "eerie" are both words we love to hear (when describing our work anyway).
That's how we felt while filming, so it's nice to hear that emotion resonates through the video.
We could not agree more.
Sometimes just the remaining husk is monument enough, that's why we would like to see it saved from collapse. To physically see the place, in person, imbues the viewer with a deep respect for what transpired here years ago.
Thanks man, it was a long day of shooting, so it's always awesome to hear kind words about the final product.
I have a handicap brother and couldn’t imagine locking him up in a facility, I couldn’t live with myself.
Ghost adventures did a show on this and interviewed one of the workers who worked there. Was really interesting.
Those rooms are filled with sadness and agony. Wow, you sure captured these feelings.
Both stunning and heartbreaking! Fantastic job, ma'am!
Shame to the world!
So VERY SAD !
A win all around! Enjoy your time there, but while there, do take a moment and reflect on those who resided there long ago, most against their will.
Nice photography
I care for individuals with developmental disabilities. We have come a long way. They live amazing lives now, even though we can and are working hard on them living more inclusive independent lives. We still have a way to go. It breaks my heart to think of anyone being treated in such a manner.
am new to your work and I've been sitting here simply mesmerized. Beautiful.....
Welcome.
Thank you for taking the time to comment.
I don't live far from pennhurst i heard it is very haunted and that they do tours.. This may be a dumb question but is the Building abandoned yet or are they touring I the actual Asylum?
+Derek Lutz There are 18 buildings on the campus. During the tours they only go through certain buildings, preferably the Mayflower.
i had a brick thrown at me in the Quaker building.
There is no such thing as “haunted” except within a humans own mind, haunted by visions of our own creation.
Derek Lutz I’ve toured pennhurst. When I went I heard things and felt things that were there. I saw a few apparitions and it gave me chills
Pennhurst was the result of govt funding, low staffing and poor medical care. Pa Govt has to take the blame for this one. As a result training became better, staffing became better, medical care is 24/7 and repairs were made. The govt uses this catastrophe as a public scare tactic but it's not the truth now. Persons are thriving, are living longer and are happy. They now have their own community where they feel they belong with their own friends, their social gatherings where everyone happily participates and they aren't ostracized like they are in the public. No stares, whispering and moving away because someone feels uncomfortable. They feel they have a HOME and BELONG.
The people in the Pa Govt need tpcbel it in a place like that. Dumb idiots who r in the Pennsylvania Government,YOU SHOULD ALL BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES STILL TODAY. YOU PEOPLE IN THE PENNSYLVANIA GOVERNMENT R ALL CORRUPT.
Important video, thank you!
This is such a fascinating RUclips channel.
This is an awesome video! Learned a lot from history, as well as a sneak peak of a place I one day plan to visit.
Sad reality. I hope there are better services now for people with special needs.
This is SICK
I think its completely disrespectful to have the property as a haunted house attraction for Halloween. Its fine for a spot for Ghost hunters, because they're not desecrating this place of horrors. I would say to tear it down, but.. Its become a reminder of the past. Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it. This is a part of history that does NOT need to be repeated.
id rather it be a haunted house then have it torn down. thats the only thing keeping it standing today. plus its a great haunted house. id love to make Danvers into a haunted attraction but its apartments now.
Its either that or a bulldozer. At least it makes people do research or all their suffering will be forgotten
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I want P******** demolished till there's nothing left. Í refuse to use the name in a sentence.
Very well done, well put together
You make a valid point, however we as a society are definitely far more compassionate and understanding toward the mentally handicapped than fifty years ago.
Thanks for the video suggestion, we will be sure to check it out.
I sure would like to see this asylum and the one in West Virginia in person.
Can you make arrangements to stay all night in these asylums?
I truly hope that we didn't come across as blaming the whole of Pennhurst's staff as being at fault for the abuse. Lack of funding played a major role in rapid downturn of the facility, and prolonged abuse which the patients were forced to endure. That being said - Many (not all) of the people who were employed at Pennhurst clearly cared little for the patients they were in charge of. These staff members, on a base level, were clearly not fit to care for people.
This is horrible... real footage
Mad props... this was very well done.
Side note On My Soap Box and I Am Not Sorry : I am reading this chapter on Moral therapy for those who are mentally disturbed for my General Psychology class ... and seriously disgusted that people who had no control over their mental issues were treated so poorly. Where in the Bible did they say treat those who are mentally disabled as if they are garbage. Rather then put them through all of the torture it would had been more humane for them to just kill them ..... Unreal! (I am not naive to never think about this before, but never really put much thought into it!)
1 Timothy 5:8 we read: “Certainly if anyone does not provide for those who are his own, and especially for those who are members of his household, he has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith.” No exception is made for members of the household who are sick. So does this mean that people who practice these awful actions are automatically removed from the book to enter Heaven?
The illness of depression, bipolar and the like are not somethings that fall into the Bibles scriptures. They were likely to be considered possessions by demons etc, but even so, they were treated with compassion by Jesus. These are illnesses, the Bible doesn't condone the treatment that these people were put through over several hundred years, or specify which illnesses are eligible for compassion.
People with these illnesses do have an idea to an extent, some may not. With this known, did they not think these people realized how badly they were treated in some instances? Knowing your going to be treated that badly or are treated badly why would anyone get any better? Your putting them in a stigma for life.
It wasn't that long ago that PA had a hospital closed because of the treatment of its patients ..... We are not talking only in the 1700s people! Even today, practices continue in some places, probably not as frequent as in the past. Truly do they teach this BS in med school ? Or are they making it up as they go playing God and deciding a persons fate. Maybe the fact that I have some mental disorders makes me more apt to get mad (Nothing Crazy or Hospital Bound!). It just sickens me that so many people were treated wrongly, so many talents put to waste, and so many lives ruined. Maybe I am just getting older and look deeper in the wrong doings of man. Maybe it's my experience with having a mentally handicapped woman live with me (Fran) as difficult as it was. Fran was mentally retarded, she trusted no one. PA did nothing to help her get help. So where is the compassion for these people? From the public and government? We tried so hard to get her the help she needed and it was never handled or maintained no matter how hard we tried.
I was flying high and happy.... and suddenly the thought of this has made me mad and in tears. I didn't even get past the 2nd page. At what point did we as society stop caring for those who couldn't care for themselves? We offer them half ass treatments, put them in a stigma, mistreat them and toss them away. Is our own needs more important that helping others and reaping the benefits from a higher power? Greed and ignorance is all I have to say.
Thoughts? I don't expect people to respond to this.... just another example of how society ignores issues. For those who do, would love to hear it.
- feeling disgusted.
The bible has lots of truth that ppl don't want to look up too and follow one of the many reasons this nation morals are falling apart illnesses and many other factors that contribute to accept sin and not accepting the reality that Gods judgement is upon us . The only thing for us as believers is to Pray that God have mercy on our Nation
Antonio Rodriguez The bible isn't any means of salvation or any type of guideline, it's just a book, written by man, printed by man. Open a science textboox instead, you'll be happier
Antonio Rodriguez What the fuck are you talking about? If you think there is some ascended being controlling your life, you need to stay at Pennhurst for a while, buddy
Sorry bud no one controls my life as I see someone else controlling you and not letting you see life . Just by the way you express yourself talks alot of what you missing of . Accept Christ as your Saviour He is the Way Truth and Life. and be born again ... By the way talking big and tough means your weak...
Antonio Rodriguez Just when I thought humans couldn't get any more retarded...
The overall concept was way ahead of its time, and truly beautiful in theory. Shame that what was intended as a way for us to care for the less-fortunate quickly crumbled to what we now know as a very dark time in the history of mental healthcare. With proper funding (nationally), and a well-selected staff, we could have been a global beacon of the goodness in mankind - An example by which others would have likely followed. What we ended up with, however, is close to the opposite.
I disagree with the whole concept because it is bassed on eugenics. Eugenics IS a crime against humanity and every time it's tried we'll have another Pennhurst.
This place and others should still be open! Out of sight, out of mind! You can directly correlate the decline in society with the closure of these places! We stopped allowing corporal punishment in schools, allowed kids to talk back in school and sue the school, took prayer away from school and let all the people out of these hospitals. Sure enough, look at all of the horrific crimes, mass shootings, etc.
Wow is all I can say, thanks for creating such a great video.
Thank you.
They can not control them selves ! Omg !
Aren't they stricken with special needs ?
Im sorry for all the mental who was there because they are people too but there brain works diffrently my mom works with tose kind of people and they love her like crazy cause she treates them the same way you would like to be treated
This is vile just because their I'll and can't help the way they act don't mean they should be treated like animals sort it out humans start looking after eachother instead tearing eachother apart
Thanks, we intend to do just that.
It should be refurbished and housed with all the homeless.
Thanks!
Letchworth is the one I was thinking of. Thanks! I knew about Willowbrook too. I saw The Last Great Disgrace. I also saw when Ghost Adventures went to Letchworth Village. Scary place. I'll look for your video on it although I may have already seen it. I will check it out though. Did you experience anything paranormal at Letchworth?
I live near one of these state institution its closing soon.I have heard the stories.Some care and some just there for a check.Sad
The old clips are key to understanding what occurred here. Reading about these kinds of issues is one thing, but unlike many of our films, we were actually able to SHOW the viewers what transpired here during its time of use. Sure, there is a lot of old footage, but without it the modern-day shots would lose a lot of their impact.
Also, the footage shown in this video is the culmination of an entire day shooting. No footage was left on the cutting room floor, every shot was used.
Thank you @AntiquityEchoes from the bottom of my heart and so many others, to showing us the atrocities that occurred there, and giving the patients there faces and there voices back 🥲😔🫂
I can hope the lost soul's there can find peace an be free 💞
@@legosi2736 Thank you for the kind and heartfelt words, your empathy is greatly appreciated.
People tend to resent America for the past we won't forget.
For the things we constantly bring to justice or at least try to.
We do these things like documentaries to propagate against these conditions.
It's a reoccurring theme amongst the republic and when we look away, that's when they've exploited us.
I have been there way before they turned it into a tour. I also have several 29 page books that are the report to the state dated 1922-1924. If interested in purchasing one let me know. $100.00 each. Very, Very rare.
Geraldo documented Willowbrook, and to a smaller extent Letchworth Village, in his expose "The Last Great Disgrace". Different places, but similar stories of neglect and abuse.
We have a video on that place as well - Just look through our videos for "The Disgrace of Letchworth Village".
Is this the same one that Geraldo Rivera did the expose on? The one that Ghost Adventures went to? I know there were several of these places around the country that were terrible.
Im from here! i miss living in spring city!
Well done!
Thanks for this! I feel a lot more educated on this subject! Thanks:)
awesome video man :D love it
Luckily the social taboo of raising a (physically or mentally) handicapped child is long behind us. We owe this progress to those who suffered through it.
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I explored pennhurst 3 times a couple years ago. Its pretty damn freaky in there.
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No winners, only survivors. The base idea of a state-run asylum, to care for those who couldn't care for themselves is a noble idea. As it is with all great intentions though - if it doesn't turn a profit, most don't bother to care.
Very frightening how civilised we believe we are...............no more than wild dogs.
We were granted access by the owners of the facility. To film there (with all of our equipment) would be impossible to do without permission.
These people got to change people be looking on Google and when I looked on Google I saw a asylum assignment was creepy there's a sick get tree guard I don't want to skit for the guard to die what happens if the skater need guard dies these people need to change their craziness or they're going to line up people are going to wind up somewhere they don't want to be at in asylum
If "paranormal" energies do exist at all, then they would certainly be here.
I live near Pennhurst. Everyone knows about it, no one cares. The asylum was bad but it has been closed for decades now. Most people don't even remember it
To not remember does a great disservice to those who suffered.
@@AntiquityEchoes Well everyone knows what it is but it's a halloween tourist trap now. It's almost a rite of passage to get kicked off the property as a teenager.
I had a middle school teacher who worked there when it was still an asylum and he didn't say anything bad about it but there's only so much you would tell a 13 year old kid when you're at work too I guess. I was interested in it back then but there were no videos of the asylum from when it was functional on RUclips, that has changed tho
Very very sad.
my late brother Paul was in Pennhurst and I Remember he got actted in his sleep
nice video man. keep it up :D
there are the spirit's of the person's they were treated so horrible in what i have seen
We aim to please.
I visited that place in2016 u feel da vibes in that place chills up ur spine too much paranormal activity going on in DAT place
Sadly, there are many similarities to be made there.
Progress is much slower than most would care to believe.
Twisted, spooky, scary. The place has to be filled to the brim with disturbed psychic energy.
Yet we claim to be better than the other animals...Shit and shame on us!
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Exactly the point. Sorry to have upset.
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I'll only be happy when it's a pile of rubble.
We hate it just as much as you do (though you obviously possess a unique perspective on the subject). To the younger generations, the kind of world depicted in this video may as well be ancient history. While this is obviously for the best, we must never disconnect so far from such moments in history that we lose touch with it.
I grew up in a very liberal/progressive county. However.....if you have any transgressions with the law in Va. at some point the will ask if there is any mental retardation in your family. The term "retarded" was considered okay at the time, and is still in use.
It replaced terms like "idiot", "moron" and "imbecile". These are/were medical terms at the time!
I am sorry, but the truth is.....it is still a legitimate term used by the Wash. Post! a very liberal paper these days!
This was some of the footage used by ghost adventures.
As some one how has fragile x syndrome (look it up) I could not fully imagine the horror they went throw in that place it so sad 😢.
Ghost Adventures
Ghost Adventures investigated this place.
The oubliette. AMEN Philadelphia USA
When the Sandy Hook massacre took place there was all this talk about screening every body with a diagnosis of personality or mental disorders being banned. I wasn't so much against that, but we have close to 1/3 of countries populace on some sort of psychotropic. That's 130 million people. I was so afraid that society was reversing itself. The kind of impairments that would disqualify someone are so severe that they never would or could perform such a deed. Besides it's not illness it's anger.
I can't watch stuff like this. It makes me too sad. I have my higher degrees in rehab and impairment. The past is horrendous. Mainstreaming, has become so successful that these kind of situations are no longer tolerated in most places of the world.
Good AND nice? You humble us.