Howdy Hey! I'm off moving this week but here's a pre-filmed video from my backlog! Also I'm testing out a new "Products" feature for RUclips so check out that "view products" button in the bottom left of the video!
Hi Hipyo! Could you do a video modding and/or reviewing the onn. rgb gaming keyboard? I have the keyboard and it's my main. I would love to hear your opinion on it!
My gripe with the whole clone/authentic debate honestly comes down to availability. If GMK Olivias were readily available, you bet your ass I'll get them. But if I had to pick between paying 300+ msrp for a set because I missed out on a GB from a few years ago, yeah, sorry. I'm just going to go with the clones. A lot of the clones don't have the novelties so it just becomes a colourway. Just my opinion ofc and I'm sure people are very heated about authenticity vs clones and supporting the original creators, but if there's a demand and there's no supply, something's gotta give.
If you're buying 2nd hand you're not supporting the creator anyway, if it's out of stock it makes no difference to the creator if you buy a genuine 2nd hand or a clone, they won't see the money. I agree that you shouldn't steal novelties, but you can't "own" a colour combo.
Yes I just bought Olivia clones myself as I wanted the color scheme and nice thick ABS double shots. I'm not going to feel guilty because I don't want to wait for another GMK set with similar colors and qualities...
Kinetic's Corn keycap set is certainly not for everyone, but please be sure to let everyone know about them as sometimes you'll mention them to a friend and she yells, "I LOVE CORN" and buys the keycap/deskmat set and loves you forever for letting her know they exist.
The first time it came up I literally thought it was an easter egg or something, slowed down the video playback to 0.25 only to find out it was just a mirrored text, def not cool.
Hipyo: explaining that it's better to choose the board and then the keycaps Me, knowing full well my motivation for a build is seeing pretty keycaps and building for those in mind before all else: *interesting*
For any J. R. R. Tolkien Fans out there watching this video, Drop has released a MT3 profile LotR keycap set that looks awesome, i would recommend any fan that is watching the video atm to check it out while is in stock, im building a keyboard for each the Dwarves and Elvish!
Really looking forward to the clones video lol. I've been changing my mind a lot recently about the whole issue. People tend to get really angry when talking about it and a lot of the nuance gets lost. It tends to turn into an 'us' vs. 'them' type thing, like you either support art theft or you think that everyone should only buy GMK. And of course, the reality is just not like that. I don't support art theft but I also think that GMK and similarly priced sets are too expensive. And a lot of the analysis tends to be overly USA-centric. What's available and affordable in the USA to someone who makes US citizen money is not going to be the same as it is for someone like me who lives in the Philippines and makes Filipino citizen money (it's a lot less). Akko, who makes a lot of clones, is everywhere here because it's affordable and accessible.
If only cloning companies commission the original artist. That would fix the whole debate. Would make life a much more happier place to live in but it doesn't always work that way sadly.
@@Lilyium the question is will designers even consider teaming up with cloners? I imagine that designers will be very unsupportive of the idea since it will not have the "luxury" or "privilege" of being a gmk set. And people will most likely react the same way. So what if it is an original design? It is from a cloner and it isn't GMK. I agree but it is very unlikely it will happen.
@@vectivuz1858 I'm really not knowledgeable on law but it seems like you can "own" colors. There's whole brouhaha with purple as used in chocolate bar packaging involving the likes of Cadbury and Mondelez. And I would imagine that you'd get in trouble for opening a coffee shop chain with dark green branding. It seems to depend on whether it can be argued that you're capitalizing on the influence of the existing brand and whether your brand can be confused for the existing one, which would affect their market. And that can definitely be said for keycap clones although they involve such small players that it's super unlikely that any legal action would ever be taken, which is how cloners continue to exist. But I don't put that much stock into law as basis for morality. A lot of people and companies have gotten away with a lot of evil things. Trump is still a free man. But I do think that these colorways have value and power. They weren't just picked at random. I think they can be considered art. It's certainly not an easy thing to do, making a visually-appealing, thematic, cohesive keycap colorway. Believe me, I've tried. There's design and intent behind it and I do think that that should be protected. And the colorway is the majority of the design appeal of a keycap set. Most of them use the same style of fonts and legending. It seems like people buy them mostly for those colors and not things like the novelties. Some sets don't even have novelties. Sets like Olivia, Nautilus, Night Runner, and the like have built up a strong reputation, appeal, and selling power in the community because of their cohesive, beautiful colorways. And it is this reputation, appeal, and selling power that the cloners exploit when they copy the colorways and even use the exact name of the set in their product listings.
@@CaloysKeyboards To start off the examples you mentioned are with regard to "Trademarks" not "copyright" When it comes to artistic creations which I believe keycaps are, we apply copyright. This is best exemplified by your statement "capitalizing on the influence of an existing brand" That is true, many a trademark infringers motive is exactly this, make a logo/branding/mark similar to that of an existing reputable brand to create confusion or a false link between the infringers products and the reputable brand. As to the statement of a coffee shop with dark green branding, if it is just color then no. If it the proprietor made efforts to disassociate with Starbucks ( I assume that is the brand you are pertaining to) no trouble will come since it will not cause confusion. Now to the question of whether keycap designs the total combination of colorways, legends, etc. is considered "artistic" enough to warrant protection is something I cannot be sure of. To be clear, yes you are right. Not everything legal is moral neither is everything moral, legal in every country. The issue I have is that there are only so many color combinations out there that are aesthetically pleasing, there will come a point that everything has been thought of. As you said "they weren't picked at random". Plus the facts you stated regarding price, availability, different salaries in different countries with different standards of living.
Literally bought MA Profile because of your recommendation half a year ago and they're awesome! They fit really well with Epomaker SK64. Thanks! Your content is always top notch!
My gripe with all the keycap designs is: they all want to be super unique, but completely ignore the huge amount of people that just want to make their normal keyboard sound better without losing anything. Not everyone is into changing key location, losing backlight, losing a massive amount of usable keys or having proper symbols on it that actually have any use for all the keys, where combinations with shift, ctrl, altGr are common. Seriously, I pretty much never see any full-scale keycap sets (and even worse, if you have some additional buttons).
I would have bought the genuine GMK or other high quality keycaps but it's to expensive to our country. It's 1 US Dollar to 4 Ringgit Malaysia. A full GMK keycap set also cost half of my monthly payment. Me as a designer I would like to support other artist if I'm able to so I won't push myself just to get the genuine keycaps.
I got two sets for the price of one from Drop and I'm LOVING the profile (for typing). It seems this week they have some nice discounts set up for those sets for those interested.
Gmk keycaps are a rip-off. $100+ keycaps is way too much and you can better spend that money elsewhere. If you *really* like keyboards and it makes you happy then go for it but for an average person who just wants a good economical keyboard for working there is no reason
Personally I got myself some Domikey gas attack in SA. I thought SA would take time to get used to from oem and was a bit scared I wasted the money. But for me it made no difference in typing or gaming. Great quality and price
I just bought some SA myself and I'm hoping it's the same thing for me. I don't normally game on PC and this is more for typing so I'm hoping they are a good fit for my current keeb and future build I'm buying.
6:27 Seems perfect for me in terms of form, but I wish they were black with double shot RGB compatible. Or purple and black like the Black Panther set.
Akko keycaps have been my go to since I built my first board. Overall great quality. I just have a couple complaints, number one being that out of the 4 spacebars I have used from them, 3 have had an issue with the stems of the keycap breaking on stabs, and number 2 being the shine on my WoB spacebar that formed REALLY fast after i put it on my board. I'll definitely be using them in the future, but defintely don't get them thinking you're getting a super duper high quality set (side note: ASA is fucking awesome and I wish other companies made sets in that profile)
Kinetic labs brings a lot to the community as long as you live in US or Canada. I got the milk and honey set of amazon and must say for the price I was very impressed.
You should of mentioned drop artifact bloom and cannon keys npbt. Nice pbt looks bery boring but feels very nice and still looks good. Artifact bloom in my opinion is THE budget cherry profile double shot.
Hipyo, I bought the eyooso keyboard as my first mechanical keyboard and stuffed it with cardboard and paper. Then I put in Akko CS Ocean Blues and now I have this really nice THOCKY keyboard thanks for teaching me that I do not have to spend $200 on a keyboard.
I've been using MT3 for gaming for 2 years - I have nothing to complain about. Is it tall? Yes. Do I make mistakes in typing? Yes. But I love the way the sculpt feels during gaming. I predominantly play COD and sometimes open world.
Akko, Ducky and YMDK are my recommendations for the budget end. All of them are pretty cheap, and surprisingly great quality. Pair them with a good switch and you'll have some of the deepest thock you could ever hope for.
I'd happily pay RRP for a original set, but if you literally can't buy them anywhere I'll buy a clone - It isn't my fault not enough were manufactured.
I see the oh well don't support clones debate in other hobbies and it is usually because the clones do not represent the quality that the original designer put into their product. for keycaps while there are probably some differences. if the original designer cant keep them in stock, I don't see the harm in supporting whomever you can get them from being that they are going to be of similar quality anyway, potentially cheaper, and give you the desired look you want. people need to stop acting like a color combo is a "design"
Thank you for the recommendation on the custom keycap sets through WASD! Recently got my first mechanical keyboard and a custom keycap set is exactly what I was looking for next
Buy clones, save your money. Don't get sucked into the whole drama. You'll spend 2-10 times more money on a set of "authentic" keycaps only to end up breaking one down the line and never being able to replace it. Buy clones, and enjoy the fact that even if you break a keycap and can't replace it, you only spent $20-$40.
Having used GMK Clones (particularly Aefei), I'd say they are perfectly fine and comparable to the real deal, GMK Originals are pure ripoffs Also, I totally support the purchase of clones (i hate the ridiculous prices of the group buys here and group buys there, i just want my keycaps and to use them immediately)
I don’t like buying clones but I love the gmk designs and I like PBT Keycaps more and also I just can’t justify that price. GMK is also a much bigger company than just Keycaps so I feel like GMK clones are not that bad
the 9009 blanks on kinetic lab is amazing. Don't know if that falls under clones, but I personally don't think so because there has been kat 9009, epbt 9009, gmk 9009 and a bunch of stuff
Buying a clone really isn't any different than buying a price hiked set off mechmarket, in that neither is sending your money to the creator. But one is the obviously smarter move for your wallet...
They are just keycaps people. No matter how much I like my mechanical keyboard, I am not going to spend 200+ dollars on freaking keycaps. Just buy some nice clones and move on with your life.
I mean... If they're comfortable, durable, and look the way I want them to, I don't mind paying a premium. I'm picky about how they feel, how well my backlight shows through, how the font looks, matches the color ways I want, and will last at least as long as my switches before they start showing wear.
@NitttNattt first of all.. Unless you are buying extras on top of base keycaps, they aren't even close to being 200+ dollars. My latest GMK set was about 130 euros and that's the highest quality / most expensive kind there is. There's enough normal keycaps for far below that. There's also a reason they are that expensive, it's not like they are getting mass produced for millions of people. But if you don't have the money, you don't NEED to get the more expensive kind. There's also clean sets for under 50 bucks lmao
I just wish someone made sa double shot Italian iso keycaps. I had to fall back to OEM dye sub keycaps which are more than fine but sa has a certain charm I can't resist.
@@abird720 i agree. I'm just fed up with gmk. Like wtf you spend hundreds of dollars then wait for years until you can get your hands on it. Then the set comes in flimsy low quality packaging. And then comes the after market. Not to mention the cherry interference, so f-ing infuriating, which just bumps the price of south facing kit sky high. Changing led position on a pcb during manufacturing is easy af. It's absurd how just changing the led position makes a kit almost unaffordable for most people. Maybe it's just my broke ass complaining.
@@abird720 novelties are indisputably art, and any clones of those should be vilified. I think you should hear hipyo out from his experiences designing IFK Delight. Do you think people should clone his set?
@@abird720 agree, and some of the “clone” sets he’s shading Akko for use the normal Akko novelties, just have similar colorways. They even have some of their own designs and collaboration sets, and make them in different profiles… stealing full designs is one thing, like novelties and full keyboard art etc; but colorways i can’t justify seeing a copyright on
Hello from New York City! Can custom keycaps be used with an old keyboards or it is recommended to buy a new mechanical keyboard? For example: using a vintage Packard Bell 5139 keyboard now. Is there a way for a newbie to start using keycaps with the OEM keyboard they already have? Thank you for informative video.
Awesome! How do keycaps named that are factory glossy and polished? I love my 20yo Matsushita keyboard but it's broken now. I wish to replicate the keys style like they're in use for a looong time on a new one. I'll be glad for your answer.
This is a great question! I'd be glad to go into depth on my experience shining keycaps more on Discord, feel free to join the Hipyo server and ping me and I can chat with you about this.
Is there any shine through spherical keycaps. Also do they have in cherry and OEM profile?. Been looking in the internet, thanks in advance for the info.
Hey hipyo! I know you’re not Amazon’s biggest fan when it comes to keycaps, but would you consider reviewing Mistel PBT keycaps from Amazon? They’re doubleshot, clean looking caps with a few different colour options and are £50 :)
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Howdy Hey! I'm off moving this week but here's a pre-filmed video from my backlog! Also I'm testing out a new "Products" feature for RUclips so check out that "view products" button in the bottom left of the video!
Pack all your keeps in bubble wrap and see you on the other side!! Don't sweat the schedule.
Wow, that products feature is noice. Thanks for trying it out
Hi Hipyo! Could you do a video modding and/or reviewing the onn. rgb gaming keyboard? I have the keyboard and it's my main. I would love to hear your opinion on it!
bubble sound spem, bad >:(
One month ago I wasn’t even into keyboards like that and now im planning out my first build
@@Supasane_exe rattle table
@@Supasane_exe spellaing
same...
@@Supasane_exe Real a table
Same here
My gripe with the whole clone/authentic debate honestly comes down to availability. If GMK Olivias were readily available, you bet your ass I'll get them. But if I had to pick between paying 300+ msrp for a set because I missed out on a GB from a few years ago, yeah, sorry. I'm just going to go with the clones. A lot of the clones don't have the novelties so it just becomes a colourway. Just my opinion ofc and I'm sure people are very heated about authenticity vs clones and supporting the original creators, but if there's a demand and there's no supply, something's gotta give.
If you're buying 2nd hand you're not supporting the creator anyway, if it's out of stock it makes no difference to the creator if you buy a genuine 2nd hand or a clone, they won't see the money. I agree that you shouldn't steal novelties, but you can't "own" a colour combo.
@@Nick-yy3uh agreed
Yes I just bought Olivia clones myself as I wanted the color scheme and nice thick ABS double shots. I'm not going to feel guilty because I don't want to wait for another GMK set with similar colors and qualities...
@@Nick-yy3uh agreed ×2
@@BrianMcKee Care to share which clones you got from where? Can be in DM.
Kinetic's Corn keycap set is certainly not for everyone, but please be sure to let everyone know about them as sometimes you'll mention them to a friend and she yells, "I LOVE CORN" and buys the keycap/deskmat set and loves you forever for letting her know they exist.
I LOVE CONE (corn) LMAO
IT'S CORN!
IT HAS THE JUICE!
Some constructive criticism is to fix the text mirroring and then disappearing after the movement it’s pretty distracting.
The first time it came up I literally thought it was an easter egg or something, slowed down the video playback to 0.25 only to find out it was just a mirrored text, def not cool.
probably a preset he used
Agreed 100%. I am not good at these effects by any means, but I think this would be easy to fix in After Effects or even Premiere
Can't wait to use this video as an excuse to buy more keycaps.
don't spend more than $42 on them.
Oh no, now you have to buy a new keyboard and switches to go with those keycaps
@@dakaringer exactly my thought process
How about DIFFERENT SETS and rotate them?!! 😱
@@dyscea r/wooooosh
AKKO's keycaps are also very budget friendly with a lot of different choices and design
Plus they're beginning to discontinue their clone sets sooo
AKKOS are my go to at this point. No point in spending 100 + dollars on some damn keycaps lol
Hipyo: explaining that it's better to choose the board and then the keycaps
Me, knowing full well my motivation for a build is seeing pretty keycaps and building for those in mind before all else: *interesting*
Hah ❤
For any J. R. R. Tolkien Fans out there watching this video, Drop has released a MT3 profile LotR keycap set that looks awesome, i would recommend any fan that is watching the video atm to check it out while is in stock, im building a keyboard for each the Dwarves and Elvish!
These are still in stock two years later! With Mordor and Rohan having been added as well
Really looking forward to the clones video lol. I've been changing my mind a lot recently about the whole issue. People tend to get really angry when talking about it and a lot of the nuance gets lost. It tends to turn into an 'us' vs. 'them' type thing, like you either support art theft or you think that everyone should only buy GMK. And of course, the reality is just not like that. I don't support art theft but I also think that GMK and similarly priced sets are too expensive. And a lot of the analysis tends to be overly USA-centric. What's available and affordable in the USA to someone who makes US citizen money is not going to be the same as it is for someone like me who lives in the Philippines and makes Filipino citizen money (it's a lot less). Akko, who makes a lot of clones, is everywhere here because it's affordable and accessible.
If only cloning companies commission the original artist. That would fix the whole debate. Would make life a much more happier place to live in but it doesn't always work that way sadly.
@@Lilyium the question is will designers even consider teaming up with cloners?
I imagine that designers will be very unsupportive of the idea since it will not have the "luxury" or "privilege" of being a gmk set.
And people will most likely react the same way. So what if it is an original design? It is from a cloner and it isn't GMK.
I agree but it is very unlikely it will happen.
And akko only clones colorways. Why can't people understand that you can't own a colorway 😅
@@vectivuz1858 I'm really not knowledgeable on law but it seems like you can "own" colors. There's whole brouhaha with purple as used in chocolate bar packaging involving the likes of Cadbury and Mondelez. And I would imagine that you'd get in trouble for opening a coffee shop chain with dark green branding.
It seems to depend on whether it can be argued that you're capitalizing on the influence of the existing brand and whether your brand can be confused for the existing one, which would affect their market. And that can definitely be said for keycap clones although they involve such small players that it's super unlikely that any legal action would ever be taken, which is how cloners continue to exist.
But I don't put that much stock into law as basis for morality. A lot of people and companies have gotten away with a lot of evil things. Trump is still a free man.
But I do think that these colorways have value and power. They weren't just picked at random. I think they can be considered art. It's certainly not an easy thing to do, making a visually-appealing, thematic, cohesive keycap colorway. Believe me, I've tried. There's design and intent behind it and I do think that that should be protected.
And the colorway is the majority of the design appeal of a keycap set. Most of them use the same style of fonts and legending. It seems like people buy them mostly for those colors and not things like the novelties. Some sets don't even have novelties.
Sets like Olivia, Nautilus, Night Runner, and the like have built up a strong reputation, appeal, and selling power in the community because of their cohesive, beautiful colorways. And it is this reputation, appeal, and selling power that the cloners exploit when they copy the colorways and even use the exact name of the set in their product listings.
@@CaloysKeyboards To start off the examples you mentioned are with regard to "Trademarks" not "copyright"
When it comes to artistic creations which I believe keycaps are, we apply copyright.
This is best exemplified by your statement "capitalizing on the influence of an existing brand" That is true, many a trademark infringers motive is exactly this, make a logo/branding/mark similar to that of an existing reputable brand to create confusion or a false link between the infringers products and the reputable brand.
As to the statement of a coffee shop with dark green branding, if it is just color then no. If it the proprietor made efforts to disassociate with Starbucks ( I assume that is the brand you are pertaining to) no trouble will come since it will not cause confusion.
Now to the question of whether keycap designs the total combination of colorways, legends, etc. is considered "artistic" enough to warrant protection is something I cannot be sure of.
To be clear, yes you are right. Not everything legal is moral neither is everything moral, legal in every country.
The issue I have is that there are only so many color combinations out there that are aesthetically pleasing, there will come a point that everything has been thought of. As you said "they weren't picked at random".
Plus the facts you stated regarding price, availability, different salaries in different countries with different standards of living.
Literally bought MA Profile because of your recommendation half a year ago and they're awesome! They fit really well with Epomaker SK64. Thanks! Your content is always top notch!
Glad you like em!
My gripe with all the keycap designs is: they all want to be super unique, but completely ignore the huge amount of people that just want to make their normal keyboard sound better without losing anything. Not everyone is into changing key location, losing backlight, losing a massive amount of usable keys or having proper symbols on it that actually have any use for all the keys, where combinations with shift, ctrl, altGr are common.
Seriously, I pretty much never see any full-scale keycap sets (and even worse, if you have some additional buttons).
Dude, thank you for including WASD. I had no idea this existed and now my possibilities have exploded!
I would have bought the genuine GMK or other high quality keycaps but it's to expensive to our country. It's 1 US Dollar to 4 Ringgit Malaysia. A full GMK keycap set also cost half of my monthly payment. Me as a designer I would like to support other artist if I'm able to so I won't push myself just to get the genuine keycaps.
Same. I'm polish and the conversion from USD to PLN is also deadly. Not to mention availability and shipping
@@spacetrashfallingdown Just the shipping fees and taxes, we can get a new keyboard already🥲.
Saying "dont buy clones" while showing AKKO's Villanella clone *chefs kiss*
I got two sets for the price of one from Drop and I'm LOVING the profile (for typing). It seems this week they have some nice discounts set up for those sets for those interested.
Agreed. GMK keycaps are sick but you can get good quality keycaps for a lot less.
Gmk keycaps are a rip-off. $100+ keycaps is way too much and you can better spend that money elsewhere. If you *really* like keyboards and it makes you happy then go for it but for an average person who just wants a good economical keyboard for working there is no reason
Akko Keycaps have been amazing for the price. I love mine
A lot of akkos are clones. Akko carbon and akko laser to name 2.
@@corporealghoul Yeah for sure. But you cant really get mad at their more simple BOW/WOB sets they've been putting out lately.
i like the akko ones :D
You are a keycap designer, a youtuber, a streamer, kb builder and a musician, damn, nice
Wait until you know about his career with NASA
the fact that gmk hasn't shifted to pbt yet blows my mind, for people who want one premium set that will last for a long time that's really a bummer
Last a long time? If you’re planning to use any set for a long time, it will shine, PBT/ABS regardless.
It's common knowledge that ABS will shine much faster than PBT.
So many hints to the hippyo keycap set
i’m definitely on the “cause you to waste more money” end of this video’s audience 😩
I love the way Akko looks
Personally I got myself some Domikey gas attack in SA. I thought SA would take time to get used to from oem and was a bit scared I wasted the money. But for me it made no difference in typing or gaming. Great quality and price
I just bought some SA myself and I'm hoping it's the same thing for me. I don't normally game on PC and this is more for typing so I'm hoping they are a good fit for my current keeb and future build I'm buying.
Literally just want a nice feeling all black set with that has a shine thru legend
6:27 Seems perfect for me in terms of form, but I wish they were black with double shot RGB compatible. Or purple and black like the Black Panther set.
Buy em and spray paint em
I know what you are referring to what you cut. You're a good dude.
Just curious, what is that company? What happened?
@@lemonpemonofficial1281 it's akko and some of their keycaps are clones
I'd say that OEM is the best for beginners because it's used on literally every other prebuilt keyboard ever
Akko keycaps have been my go to since I built my first board. Overall great quality. I just have a couple complaints, number one being that out of the 4 spacebars I have used from them, 3 have had an issue with the stems of the keycap breaking on stabs, and number 2 being the shine on my WoB spacebar that formed REALLY fast after i put it on my board. I'll definitely be using them in the future, but defintely don't get them thinking you're getting a super duper high quality set (side note: ASA is fucking awesome and I wish other companies made sets in that profile)
Real gamers don't use keycaps.
Kinetic labs brings a lot to the community as long as you live in US or Canada. I got the milk and honey set of amazon and must say for the price I was very impressed.
You should of mentioned drop artifact bloom and cannon keys npbt. Nice pbt looks bery boring but feels very nice and still looks good. Artifact bloom in my opinion is THE budget cherry profile double shot.
Hipyo, I bought the eyooso keyboard as my first mechanical keyboard and stuffed it with cardboard and paper. Then I put in Akko CS Ocean Blues and now I have this really nice THOCKY keyboard thanks for teaching me that I do not have to spend $200 on a keyboard.
I've been using MT3 for gaming for 2 years - I have nothing to complain about. Is it tall? Yes. Do I make mistakes in typing? Yes. But I love the way the sculpt feels during gaming. I predominantly play COD and sometimes open world.
Akko, Ducky and YMDK are my recommendations for the budget end. All of them are pretty cheap, and surprisingly great quality. Pair them with a good switch and you'll have some of the deepest thock you could ever hope for.
thanks for the keycap tip, but what about every else? can you do a video on switches, frames and other stuff? pls xxxx
I'd happily pay RRP for a original set, but if you literally can't buy them anywhere I'll buy a clone - It isn't my fault not enough were manufactured.
I see the oh well don't support clones debate in other hobbies and it is usually because the clones do not represent the quality that the original designer put into their product. for keycaps while there are probably some differences. if the original designer cant keep them in stock, I don't see the harm in supporting whomever you can get them from being that they are going to be of similar quality anyway, potentially cheaper, and give you the desired look you want. people need to stop acting like a color combo is a "design"
Thank you for the recommendation on the custom keycap sets through WASD! Recently got my first mechanical keyboard and a custom keycap set is exactly what I was looking for next
i currently have a 7 euro keycap set which is dope af. and looks better than what you have shown here
Please release this in the next hour before I go to bed I was literally looking for replacement caps today I beg you Mr. Tech please
Keyoo is also a very good brand. Very good PBT (also milky) keycaps for every layout .
That's why I use high quality blanks. Not as expensive but still high quality.
Buy clones, save your money. Don't get sucked into the whole drama. You'll spend 2-10 times more money on a set of "authentic" keycaps only to end up breaking one down the line and never being able to replace it. Buy clones, and enjoy the fact that even if you break a keycap and can't replace it, you only spent $20-$40.
Yes another Hipyo video thank you!
Im gonna build my first ever keyboard soon, IM SO EXCITED
Tbh I actually really like razer pbt keycaps. They are pretty cheap and available almost anywhere
Hipyo: you dont need $400 keycaps
Me: just bought gmks last month… *hides in shame*
Drop skylight keycaps are also pretty nice for the price
4:50 what keyboard is that?!? I’d love to have my delete pg up n down on the left side.
Me too! Did you find what it is?
@@kk4268 I have not :(
Kl_90 i believe
Being a broke college student, Hipyo is the best
I got GMK Pulse and it’s my favorite too 😎
because of you ive now gotten the gmk samurai keycaps
About to start my second build for my Mac soon on a Mode Eighty alum!
Having used GMK Clones (particularly Aefei), I'd say they are perfectly fine and comparable to the real deal, GMK Originals are pure ripoffs
Also, I totally support the purchase of clones (i hate the ridiculous prices of the group buys here and group buys there, i just want my keycaps and to use them immediately)
You should try a bandaid mod, can't imagine how different that'd sound to foam...
Hipyo, your the best!
I don’t like buying clones but I love the gmk designs and I like PBT Keycaps more and also I just can’t justify that price. GMK is also a much bigger company than just Keycaps so I feel like GMK clones are not that bad
the 9009 blanks on kinetic lab is amazing. Don't know if that falls under clones, but I personally don't think so because there has been kat 9009, epbt 9009, gmk 9009 and a bunch of stuff
Buying a clone really isn't any different than buying a price hiked set off mechmarket, in that neither is sending your money to the creator. But one is the obviously smarter move for your wallet...
pay +100 dollars and wait months to buy bullshit abs because it's original, no thanks 😂
Someone expand on the "aether" comment at 4:20? I bought Aether Infinikeys lol
Glorious had a scandal about it
Great info. I wish I could have updated info and where I can source in Australia :)
I WAS LOOKING FOR KEYCAPS FOR MY BUILD TYTY
i feel like xda keycaps make a keyboard look more expensive that it actually is, theyve gotta be my favorite keycaps
I bought the Coral Sea and I'm happy
Got these keycaps for my first build a few months back :P
Please go over the different profiles and for different uses
I ordered first amazon keycap set literally a week ago.
The idobao keycaps and id80 sound great together
4:08 may i ask what this aethery thing is?
for my corsair k63 i bought a set of red and black pudding keycaps as they were only like $18 andx they fit the board's red LED's
I’m makeing a gk61 with lavender switches it’s my first custom keyboard it’s gonna look so cute 😁
$60 for white and black key caps why am i watching this video
You post this just as I'm getting 24karat keycaps...... dude
Thank you dearest Chairman of the keyboards!
I don't need but i want
Who else is stay up all night/morning to see this!?!?
Love ur vids
omg hipyo hearted my coment thx so much
Amazing how you knew what was available in 2023 in 2021
Hi! Can you recommend a brand that makes keycaps with Cyrillic layout also ?
What is the keyboard at 4:35?
Trying to figure this out too
I like the OEM size keycaps
Thanks for making this informative videos. Just my 2 cents, I think the mirrorred words are q confusing.
Apart from that, thanks for this vid!
They are just keycaps people. No matter how much I like my mechanical keyboard, I am not going to spend 200+ dollars on freaking keycaps. Just buy some nice clones and move on with your life.
thank you someone with a brain
Ye I’m just looking for something cool, inexpensive, and effective
I mean... If they're comfortable, durable, and look the way I want them to, I don't mind paying a premium.
I'm picky about how they feel, how well my backlight shows through, how the font looks, matches the color ways I want, and will last at least as long as my switches before they start showing wear.
It's literally part of the hobby. Or are you going to put a Volvo motor in a JDM car as well 😂
@NitttNattt first of all.. Unless you are buying extras on top of base keycaps, they aren't even close to being 200+ dollars. My latest GMK set was about 130 euros and that's the highest quality / most expensive kind there is. There's enough normal keycaps for far below that. There's also a reason they are that expensive, it's not like they are getting mass produced for millions of people. But if you don't have the money, you don't NEED to get the more expensive kind. There's also clean sets for under 50 bucks lmao
I love the text animations lol
Howdy hey Hipyo! Can you please test the idobao black Sakura keycaps sometimes?
I need your opinion on a key cap set please, you didn’t go over it and it’s the only one I found that fits my style, please respond
I just wish someone made sa double shot Italian iso keycaps. I had to fall back to OEM dye sub keycaps which are more than fine but sa has a certain charm I can't resist.
With the state of the keycap market right now, buying clones straight up gives a much better shopping experience then buying official sets.
Yeah, I almost closed the video when he started preaching about clones. Colorways are not art in my opinion.
@@abird720 i agree. I'm just fed up with gmk. Like wtf you spend hundreds of dollars then wait for years until you can get your hands on it. Then the set comes in flimsy low quality packaging. And then comes the after market. Not to mention the cherry interference, so f-ing infuriating, which just bumps the price of south facing kit sky high. Changing led position on a pcb during manufacturing is easy af. It's absurd how just changing the led position makes a kit almost unaffordable for most people. Maybe it's just my broke ass complaining.
@@abird720 novelties are indisputably art, and any clones of those should be vilified. I think you should hear hipyo out from his experiences designing IFK Delight. Do you think people should clone his set?
@@abird720 agree, and some of the “clone” sets he’s shading Akko for use the normal Akko novelties, just have similar colorways. They even have some of their own designs and collaboration sets, and make them in different profiles…
stealing full designs is one thing, like novelties and full keyboard art etc; but colorways i can’t justify seeing a copyright on
Hello from New York City! Can custom keycaps be used with an old keyboards or it is recommended to buy a new mechanical keyboard? For example: using a vintage Packard Bell 5139 keyboard now. Is there a way for a newbie to start using keycaps with the OEM keyboard they already have? Thank you for informative video.
Is there any way you could make a starter playlist for people interested in building custom keyboards?
Awesome!
How do keycaps named that are factory glossy and polished? I love my 20yo Matsushita keyboard but it's broken now. I wish to replicate the keys style like they're in use for a looong time on a new one.
I'll be glad for your answer.
This is a great question! I'd be glad to go into depth on my experience shining keycaps more on Discord, feel free to join the Hipyo server and ping me and I can chat with you about this.
Cannon Keys has some very nice PBT keycaps.
Is there any shine through spherical keycaps. Also do they have in cherry and OEM profile?. Been looking in the internet, thanks in advance for the info.
Hi Hipyo, what keyboard is that (purple color and having several dedicated keys located at the most left hand side) showing up at 4:30?
Hey hipyo! I know you’re not Amazon’s biggest fan when it comes to keycaps, but would you consider reviewing Mistel PBT keycaps from Amazon? They’re doubleshot, clean looking caps with a few different colour options and are £50 :)
Lol wathing this to help me build my redragon k556 that im putting in ktt kang whites and now im looking for some good caps with deep sounds
Opinion on royal flush gaming keycaps? Company started a year ago
I'm about to work on my 2nd keeb!