Poor Man's Eventide? Digitech TSR 24S
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That 8 voice chorus is a thing of beauty. I really enjoy this rack gear series of yours for many reasons, not the least of which is that with most of these units there's one setting you find that shines and makes you want it.
I could listen to you all day brother.. sounds awesome.. mixer unit that you're playing with sure does wonders to the sound in The vibes
Digitech Choruses are definitely some of my favorites
Man, as soon as you started playing after turning it on, it was glorious brother.
I've always been a big fan of digitechs effects. I used to own one of their POD red things and it cost me like 80 bucks used back in the late 90s or early 2000s and it actually sounded great. I recorded myself using backing tracks and free open source DAW. It sounded great if I do say so myself. That, or I was just used to being so limited by old gear. 😂😂
Great video sir. All of your rack gear demos always rock. Good stuff.
Take care and tell family hello from Indiana USA kind sir. 🤘❤️🤘❤️🤘❤️🤘
POD was line6, not digitech.
@@ruby2thursday Yes, I just couldn't think of the name of the digitech device and so I called it a digitech pod like thing meaning it was plastic, small, etc.
It was a johnson j station. Digitech bought them out and took over the j edit web page. Loved that community. And it still sounds great. Put the line 6 kidney bean to shame. Nails about everything. Not much to take out live but I’ve done it recently. great recording tool . Still have mine with the foot board
Hi Leon, are you using your own pre- amp or the one on the DigiTech?
I've recently become addicted to your rack reviews. I wasn't a fan of you when you first popped up in my feed but I now think you're great. Really good demos and explanations. Nice, classy playing too!
Awesome, thank you! I appreciate that mate
Great playing and explaining 👌. Thank you, Brian Hook, for the equipment; that's a keeper. It sounds awesome. I had either the Digitech DSP128 or DSP256 back sometime between 2000 and 2003.
This unit is so much 80s sounding, simply great. Nobody uses such gems any more these days. But for those who are looking for classic sounds from Ratt to Rush, Streets and hair metal band, this is the way to go. Especially Digitech's proprietary Gigaverb algorithm sounds killer, but you can't combine it with other effects since it consumes virtually of the unit's calculating power.
I love that you know how to get sounds that we want to hear from these equipment reviews. You dont hustle us thru these settings and give us a good idea how they work and what sounds are available. Well done. Keep this up. :)
I appreciate that!
Bright, sparkly, and beautiful! Love it
🤘😎🤘
Leon, can you do a video about the Digitech RP-1 please? I think it would be really fun. 😊
Digitech has numerous patents registered for modulation and other technologies developed for guitar.. I love Digitech! Thanks for another video!
I had a loaded "S" version with the additional PPC-210 way after I started messing around with the gsp-2101 and TC's G-force. It's really flexible but a bit on the metallic side as far as sound goes.
I still have mine but cannot find the PPC-210 anywhere. It's pretty limited without it.
Yep. I have one too. Great piece of kit and I was lucky to get the upgrade (PPC-210) which literally doubled the memory and also the amount of modules you can add. Being totally flexible in how you can configure this unit is like a rare gem ...I love it still to this day!
You are lucky. I still have mine and can't find the PPC-210 anywhere.
@@stevebeck3164 Never mind... you will find the upgrade out there if you keep on to it. Usually now it most probably will be found sitting within an existing TSR-24s unit. HOWEVER, (if you can) NEVER be tempted to sell it. It's one of the very few units DIGITECH got right with regards to it's open programmability. All the best! ;)
I have the 24S and hardly ever use it but it does have a few unique sounds I must explore again more.
Peter Klett from Candlebox used one of these along with a Rocktron Intelifex.
@@nopinionocomnt Yeah, definitely underrated. He also once said that for the first Candlebox record he used basically two amps: a Peavey VTM 120 and a Marshall Mosfet lead 100 😂 solid state pushed with a tube screamer. Honestly, I bought one of those Marshall’s and yeah, they are suuuper good !
I also remember hearing Candlebox for the first time and also noticed the same as you, he has such a clean (or polished) tone but man, it sounded solid AF.
Great band. When we toured the states for the first time everyone in OKC compared us to them!
I still have my TSR-12. Something unique about the time processing.
Oh man, that 8 voice chorus is just ridiculous, and something you absolutely need,
Nice! How you adding the Filth?
...Particularly after the 2nd preset 8 voice chorus?
I think the Studio 400 is even better (the way you can write insane sounds on that thing is just wionderful), but the TSR-24S is a damn good unit in its own right. I've always loved Digitech's warm, organic sound.
Sweet Tone Bud,,,,How would you say this compares this to a Lexicon MPX 100 or 110 ?
I used one of these with an ADA MP-1, and later an MP-2. The only thing that bugged me was the huge latency delay when switching between patches. Yuk!
I have this as well as two other reverbs. Funny how each of them have their own character. But Digitech has this bright, high frequency bias with little "meat". The one with the most "meat" is an ART reverb which is very dark sounding. Digitech tsr24s - vocals ; drums - ART
Was not expecting to hear slither by Opeth in there. Great riff.
That unit sounds awesome.
If you’re holding on to any of these units I’d love to see a video of you trying to recreate some of the presets within your axe fx.
The fx in the digitech have a certain crispness that I don’t hear with the fx in the more modern units.
Awesome riff hey! If you increase the reverb high cut value in the Axe you get back some of that crispy high end.
Still on the fence about getting 1. Already have a Lexicon & an ART processor
I defiantly heard some Mindcrime type cleans in there which for years, was all I cared about!
i bought an old 90`s korg 19" reverb unit and it sounded so amazing good that i could not believe it. there was some rattling inside of the unit so i opened it and what i found was a REAL build in SPRING REVERB!! man i just want the 90`s back just for just all the underrated gear stuff 😯
Hahaha get out of here!
This was my drum group reverb machine back when I was running protools 5 through a 40 channel desk. My SPX900 was the snare verb and the DSP-24 put everything into the room I chose. This incredible unit earned it's keep 100 time over.
Have you or could you do a video on the Digitech GSP-5?
The Digitech FX are better than BOSS FX. I had a RP1000 and although the hardware sucked, the FX are much better than my GT1000.
Sounds incredible and I really enjoy your vids!!
Much appreciated mate :)
*WISH YOU WOULD RE-DIVE INTO THIS UNIT and show us all the other stuff it can do!!! Maybe a factory preset dive and focus on other algorithms of digitech that we would not normally find in other units* Ashe and party on
Sounds amazing and now I want one!!!
I didn't expect to hear newer Opeth here :)
Recording in the garage, a broke man's digitech reverb.
I had the Digitech IPS-33b, as a poor man's Harmonizer.
Around the 4:35 mark, that riff reminded me of the band Shark Island and their album Law of the Order.
It's "Blind Revolution Mad" by Winger
@@LeonTodd another awesome song and group!
Not a terrible fx unit at all. But I wouldn't pay a dime for any gsp or tsr boxes. Or any digitech product for that matter. The tsdr-24s aside from missing the tube circuitry of the 2101, is also missing the smooth whammy module of the gsp-2101 as well as the analog wah and compressor. One thing that pisses me off is the lack of consistency across fx modules in both this unit and the 2101. For example the 8 and 4 voice chorus module don't allow you to change modulation waveshape, whereas the 2 voice module has an accessible parameter to control waveshape. There isn't much fun in an 8voice module if the taps are just mere offset copies. On the other hand if you make an algorithm with just three dual voice chorus modules, that allows you to change the waveshape of each dual voice module. When you set each to a different waveshape each (tri,sin.log), it gets you really close to the dytronics tri-chorus fx sound. (You can do the same with the dual voice phase/flanger modules). What digitech did with these boxes is kind of criminal. They stuffed it with crappy sounding presets instead of giving us more user memory to create our own algorithms. And btw this is one of the only advantages the tsr-24s unit has over the gsp-2101. It allows you to program 32 user algorithm instead of 8 usr algo limit of the 2101. If I'm being honest, I don't see the point of these units when you can program your own effects in a more modular way with plugins like reaktor blocks. Not only is it a better learning experience that isn't marred by a crappy UI, but you have far better control over module arrangement. The UIs on these freggin vintage things are a total time vampire. So god damn awful
And on Vocals!?!....on instuments you can always make it sounds nice!...Thanks
In the hall... Of the mountain king!🎸
we opened for Savatage & Sanctaury on that tour 3 nights Perkins Palace CA
@@marksobkowiak9959 I was at that show!
@@tuesdayzrain GET OUTTA HERE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,We were the 1st. Band, Astaroth
Sorry Leon I had to turn you down Jimmy's come onto Rage playing Watchtower live
Didn't mind those L7s/psychos at 14:33 though!
That PRS sound very strat like?
The 5 way has a few parallel coil modes that do sound very stratty
You are a fantastic guitar player.
and you are too kind!
@@LeonTodd loool thanks no I m a electronica guy who watch your fantastic playing in different styles .And the Tsr Digitechs are hidden gems !
Take it Todd!
Shades of I'm the One and Mr Scary.
I've always had a love-hate relationship with mine because without the PPC-210 expansion board, this is pretty limited for multi-effects, especially if you wanted to create stereo algorithms. I've searched high and low for the PPC-210 with no luck. Hoping someone here can hook me up without having to shell out for a 2120 Artist w/ PPC-310 (I think it's compatible).
I'm in the same boat. I got mine a few years back and only just worked out how to program now. And suddenly realised, "shit, I really need the extension board". Mind you I've a Rocktron Intellipitch, so I can just use the Tsr-24 as my sole reverb unit. I hate when random upgrade parts for older unit just become impossible to get, particular when they extend the use of an old unit to even great capabilities.
Cool piece of gear! I see Hall of the mountain king behind you looking forward to many videos of Savatage like the Queensryche ones!!!!🤟🏻Hook us up LT🙏
What a great album!
Does anyone know if it is worth getting a midi board with exp pedal to use the whammy. Is it smooth like the whammy ? Or is it too blocky?
No it doesn't have a smooth whammy module. It's the regular one and it doesn't sound nearly as good as digi's whammy pedal, or the smooth whammy module of the gsp-2101. It's kind of jagged/zippy sounding. There's no gsp-2101 control one pedal controller port on the tsr-24 either. This also something to consider if you plan to use the gsp-2101 with a foot controller. The proprietary digitech control-one controller has more range control than a plain MIDI controller
@@HominidInterneticus Wow Ive been dying for a response to some of those questions..I bought it anyways about all could find when i had the money. I wish I could find a gsp-21 to read so I could write down the presets..But at least I won't waste my money on a midi board now. I'll just build a 3 button controoler to flip through it..Thanks
@@rokinrandy There's no shortage of the 2101 on ebay or reverb. The specialized control one or 2101fc controller for the 2101 turns up a lot on guitar center used store section of their website , as well as sweetwater's used section, and music go around online store. And you can have it for as little as $70. The GSP-2101 I've seen it go for $199 or less in working condition. The other units that do have a stand alone footswitch port for both the control one and 2101fc controllers are the digitech valve efx, and digitech legend I/II, the 2112 and the 2120. All of those units are more geared towards guitar players. Whereas the TSR-24 was geared towards studio use and thus didn't come with the dedicated footswitch controller port. But at the end of the day if a good whammy sound is what you're after, I'd get the stand alone digitech whammy4 pedal. I'd put the TSR-24 back on the market and get something that works for you as a guitar player. I'm more partial to the 2112 and 2120 because digitech never fully ironed out the bugs on the 2101. And like I mentioned before both the gsp2101fc foot controller and the control one controller work for both the 2112 and 2120, not just the 2101
@@HominidInterneticus I think you’re right. I’m having a time making some presets. A lot harder than I remember with the gsp 21 and rp 12. I didn’t even know it couldn’t take foot controllers well. Ofcourse I mainly got it for that stereo delay. But there’s a certain sweetness to those digitechs I’ve been missing.
@@rokinrandy You can use 3rd party midi foot controllers with the gsp-2101 via MIDI in. But like I said, the whammy modules only sound good with the proprietary digitech controllers.
Btw, do not put MIDI controllers in the 2101's proprietary FC jack, even if it looks identical to a MIDI input. They repurposed the MIDI-looking port for their own protocol.
What part are you having trouble with? The algorithm creation? In my experience where most people get stuck is in the algorithm i/o linking part. Which specifies how you're chaining the fx modules together. You really can't leave it to the 2101 to do it on its own because it always gets it wrong when you have an elaborate algorithm in mind. Come up with your algorithm on paper and then I'll show you how to link it. If you want ideas download the pdf manual off the web and then look at the algorithm diagrams at the end of the manual to see how they were made.
But again, get some perspective on the time you'd be wasting here. You're far better off buying a newer twin series boss pedal if you're only after stereo delay. Racks are for anal wads anyhow
Somehow, it sounds too "brightish" to me... Admittedly, it is very 80s sounding, so that's a plus. But I would use it on my synths and not on the guitar. It doesn't beat a Lexicon MPX100 soundwise, and I like the Intellifex better. I'm making a mental note for "potential candidate for my K4r" ;)
Yea his prs did sound like a strat. I had one of these 90s era digitechs and the factory presets were mostly out of wack I did away with most of the eq. And then the reverb had eq or a bright for every angle and diffuse or whatever. Or it seemed like it did . Took some tweaking but got the bright out. And it still cut through. It kept me from the floor. These pedals are killin me.
I wanted a dsp 128 But too many shady deals right now. There are Too many that say it powers on so it’s good. But no way to test . yet they have guitars in the background of the picture. Hmmm. I’ll pass.
So I just scored one of these for 200. A bit on the high end but it’s the only one besides the one for 400.00.
And No intelliflex anywhere and the few that just sold went for 300. I would love to have one. But it Seems The market is all screwy right now. Good luck .
I get that you want to show what the unit can do, but the FX levels are too much. Any FX processor will sound washy as F if you crank the effects mix...
Would be better if you did this demo in a more real world situation...FX mixed in judiciously :)
Didn't digitech buy out lexicon and use their reverbs ?
Same parent company
Yeah Harman own both of them. A few of the Digitech reverb pedals apparently use Lexicon chips.
Sounds great - but BY GOD is it ugly! :)
i still got it in my main rack and i will never let it go!
Fantastic Unit ...
Hi Leon. Did you do this video in a music store or are these all your guitars? In the latter case I'd like to know your address, hahaha! Don't worry, I live in Germany!