IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT! 😠 Jamie O'Hara Explains Why Ben White CANNOT Return To England Duties
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- talkSPORT's Jamie O'Hara reveals why he does not think Arsenal's Ben White should return to playing for England after Gareth Southgate's departure.
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Of cours he can. Manager picks him. He goes. All done
Exactly
Simple, Simple, Simple loooool
if he is the best for that position of cause he should
There’s a lot of politics in Football though
Hey O'Hara, take off your Spurs hat. There's no report out there that Ben White had problems with the players...there's speculation, however, that he had problems with the coaching staff. Now that they are gone, he's made himself available. If the new England coach decides not to pick him, fine. But give the guy a break. Unlike many people, he had the guts to say "No" to a coach he didn't like. Learn from Ben White instead of slagging him.
Clearly, he didn't want to play under Southgate and his team. If he wants to play under the new management, why not. Southgate could have resolved the issue but didn't. Surely having him available is a good thing?
I think everyone agrees. He's a melt and shouldn't have turned his country down. But southgate has gone, and it should be up to the next manager to make his decision
@hyywe240 A melt, really? He went to represent his country, and one of the coaching staff was going in on him for not liking football outside of playing it. That's not on. Even conor coady said it was uncomfortable for the players present at the time.
@Denlar96 where did you hear that? I think it's known that he argued with Steve Holland but haven't heard anything about it being because he doesn't like football. But if that's the reason. He's a melt
@hyywe240 got disrespected, Southgate as usual bottled it and could have resolved the issue easily. Glad to see him gone finally
@@bobaphat82 Bottled it? How does one even argue when you have no foundation
Big up to the first caller didn’t fall for the negativity & club rivalry was able to be objective
Jamie O Hara is such a clown
Cry harder gooner
Talk sport is full if them! 🤡
@@LeeGion_981 yeh Simon Jordan another one, glad Eddie Hearn put him in he’s place!
massive clown
Yes completely
First caller is spot on 👏🏼👏🏼 love how all these pundits think they have the right to tell another man what he can and can’t do with his life. And all of it is speculation anyway as no one actually knows what happened, and if it turns out Ben White is completely in the right, then what…because I know I’d rather have his talent in and around the England squad the worry about if he got on with a manager. That ironically all these pundits slagged off and butchered throughout the Euros anyway. Flip flops 🤡
Nobody questioned his 'right' to do anything.
He dosnt get in the squad anyway unless he plays CB. He's probably England's 4th or 5th best right back
@@nohomejerome1515 Apart from Kyle Walker name the other 3 that are better than him 😅
@DGRADE11 trent, tino, James if fit and tripper has been better the past 2 seasons although he's probably past it now
@jackrobinson-wq2jn you clearly only watch arsenal play, tino will be England rb for the next 10 years. He's unbelievably good and very young. Ben White is a 7/10 player good and solid but never will be top class and not what you want if you want to win world cups or euros
Everyone have a choice to chose to play or not for their country. The England manager has the choice to chose who they pick regardless of form. This is not a war one volunteer to represent their country to fight against their enemy. Southgate is a clearly favouritism certain players regardless of form.
O'Hara with an L take.
If White returns to England, it clearly shows that there was an issue between player and manager/manager's team. England needs its best players in the squad and if White can put in a shift, he needs to be in that squad.
He was disrespected by the staff so if he didn’t feel comfortable there he has no obligation to under the old regime now there gone he should be able to return to a more comfortable environment for him
Exactly. I'd still like to know the specifics but in general I see no issue with him coming back. He isn't good enough when everyone is for to be fair lol
@@mrnumba154 I’m pretty sure it’s because Steve Holland basically shamed him infront of the squad for not caring enough about football
Ben White apparently does not like football, which means he does not really care if he plays for England or not. After watching Southgate voluntarily throwing the European Cup away playing a guy who was quite clearly after personal glory in Kane at the expense of the team, why should he feel otherwise?
Throwing the European cup away 😂 I honestly wonder what it must be like to be so stupid
Make more conclusions without facts.
ben white has been the most consistent english RB for the last 2 yrs simple. might not be world class but its consistent performances you need and perfect link up with saka aswell
Does walker play rugby does he? 🤡🤡
Walker, trent, Tino are all better. Even tripper is still better arguably and he's getting past it
@@garycook6877Walker is good but he's overrated. You see his regression the last couple years
A couple of nobody’s on their high horse about Ben Whites personal decision of which they know nothing do the background. Pathetic.
What side of the argument are you on? Your point very much applies to both sides 😂
@@smash284 they’re judging him as if he’s done some terrible thing by saying no to playing for England. They don’t even know the details.
@@danhouw7972 again that applies to both side of the argument
@@danhouw7972 anyone vehemently defending him or attacking him are just as daft as each other
@@smash284 there should be no sides to the argument. Everyone should stay out of it because nobody knows the truth and either way, it’s his decision to make.
Lol like Jamie O hara knows about getting picked by the national team
The first caller absolutely nailed it.
If people don't want one of the countries best RB then its another reason England will fail
Hahahhh
Walker is better than him so is TAA.
@@Glen38 I said one of. Walker is better but how much longer will he play for England and TAA is not a better defender. Hes more technically gifted and his range of passing is unbelievable. He should be a wing back
When everyone is fit he isn't actually good enough to get in anyway lol
@@mrnumba154 in the best defence in the league. Totally doesnt get in lol. Some fans are so blinded by media and club loyalty
Jamie o Hara doesn't even have one cap under his name. So I kinda understand why it may be so honourable to get picked. If Gerrard, Lampard,Carrick, and whole other guys had refused to play for England, he still wouldn't have maked it to the squad
U can c how walker performed at the euros, we r not sure bout trent defensively. But in white, u have a connection with him and england’s best winger in saka
who the hell is Jamie O'Hara to have a say on this?? 😂😂😂
Some clown off reality TV who could not hack it as a pro footballer...
He didn’t refuse to play lol, he beat the hell out of Kyle Walker after Walker gave it the big un one too many times.
Oh please as if Eng land is some honorable top European footballing dynasty 😂😂 Anyone can return and leave as they so damn please 😂
England fans are hypocrites. They take issue with Ben White for not wanting to play for Southgate yet they themselves have spent months flaming the said coach for his short comings. 😂
He isn’t just turning down southgste tho, he is turning down the country, turning down Saka and Declan his club teammates.
@@kevingates8339wrong. He’s just turning down southgate. Stop trying to reach for an issue.
@@kevingates8339 He's actually not turning down anyone since Southgate never played him anyway.
Im on bennys side...
The fact of the matter is he didn't want to play for the last management group! Why should he or anyone feel uncomfortable in a working environment weather they are getting paid or otherwise. And again lets be honest if he does make himself available i would put good money on the next manager picking him because hes one of the best in the world at what he does. As regards to the players they will all no what happened and it obviously wasn't a slur against the squad
ohara is just jealous of Ben White and the fact the he could potentially start at right back or somewhere in defence for England annoys him 😂
Congrats Jamie you got your click you saddo
Reject your country once, Never get selected again.
End of.
Agree.
the way it works is if he does well, the fans will forgive anything
Actually, he can.
If he thought he wasn’t going to get any game time like some of the others that deserved it then I’m not surprised he didn’t want to go. They do treat it like a job rather than a privilege but that’s football now.
Guaranteed if bellingham didnt want to go but wants to come back for the world cup it would be a different story
It is as straight forward as switching it off and on.
He had a falling out with management and didn’t want to play for them.
A new team comes in and he gets picked he’ll play.
A lot of pearl clutching going on here
Mark is bang on. I'm not an Arsenal fan but Ben White had an excellent season in terms of assists and goals too.
Ben White was sent home in the middle of the tournament. You don't do that unless the issue is so big. The issue remained unresolved, as well. Resolving this issue is not on Ben White, who was punished, in his view unfairly, now pretending that Ben White didn't want to represent his country is dishonest of the highest order. Ben White has the right to return to England as soon as he is picked by the new manager.
agree
Show me someone who wants to play for their country but won't because of a falling out with someone who works there, and I'll show you someone who doesn't care if they play for their country or not. They're grown men, and any differences should've been sorted out rather than taking the ball and going home.
Im pretty sure many English players have "retired" for England but still carried on playing for their clubs. Scholes is a great example. But nothing said about that. Ben White made a scapegoat by the football media.
Ben White should have been in the Euro 2024 team. I think it was to with a Southgate bust up
more his assistant..........
It will be a first big win for the New England manager to speak to White and then announce him in the squad. And everyone will praise his man management.
Talk sport is full of them.
hindsight is a wonderful thing, but, if james and chilwell would have been fully fit, would southgate had played them behind gordon and palmer!!!?? no chance!!!
Jamie talking rubbish again. Of course White can, he knew Southgate and his team were a bunch of clowns 🤡
We will see 🥱
He dosnt even get in the squad unless he wants to play CB
Why is Ben white a topic of useless conversation this Friday morning 💔
New Manager speaks with him, he will gladly go! but they have to call first!
Those players are professionals they'll get on with it regardless of whether he returns or not
Jo from Liverpool comparing for playing for Jack Charlton’s EIRE to dullard Southgate’s England 😂
He can if the manager picks him and Ben White is open to playing. Not that difficult.
If it was club they would get rid of Ben. I don’t blame Ben I think he save himself from not allowing Colgate to mess with his confidence because he still wouldn’t use him in any of the games.
O'Hara really does make me sick...I see his name...I keep it moving
In Fairness Jamie if the new manager wants to pick him it does work like that
You don’t turn down representing your country. Never
Military service and football service two different things
Did Steve Holland ever call Harry Kane 'an aging forward with the pace of a geriatric tortoise?' Did he ever call John Stones 'a defender that would make opposition strikers salivate with anticipation'? Did he ever call Guehi ' a trumped up Palace defender who wouldn't get into a match day squad at Arsenal'?? The test of all the players who remained is insulting them brutally in front of their peers in ways that make them want to put a fist through the fat aging apparatchik's skull. Until they have been insulted the way White was, there's absolutely no comparison between situations......
how do you know they didn't, also Ben White was challenged effectively - he shied away from that challenge that you don't have to watch footy to be a good footy player. Prove it in training, prove it in matches for England - prove him wrong. instead it was wahhhhhhh wahhhhhhhh i'm gonna run away now, don't wanna play for England cause i can't handle criticism.
It is difficult to judge without knowing his reasons.
It is not absolutely his choice.
If new manager decides to pick him for the squad is FA going to object?
I'm just pleased he's fresh for the season without wasting his time with an over hyped national team that have no idea how to succeed. Come on arsenal
Not a brain cell between the two of them!!!
Most people wanted Southgate gone mid tournament and we saw how it turned out.Dont you think Ben white looks smart now ... And by the way we didn't loose it over our Right back selection either !
Bottom line is management team should know what to say and how to talk to players, how would you know maybe if the same had happened to any other they would have felt the same way as ben white
First caller 100% correct. Good riddance Steve Holland. Free Ban White.
The first caller spot on ❤
You are employed by England because you get paid to play for England. Something O'Hara wouldn't know anything about. 2 bit player and pundit
Here's the thing....he DOESN'T want to play for England, he really isn't bothered, that's my opinion....
Ben can do what he wants..........
Gordon has every right to do a Ben white. Southgate totally wasted his time.
If Ben White can do a job for England he should be picked, take the personalities out of it, do England need him, get him, if not so what. Kane did not look like he was fighting for anyone in the Euros.
The second caller was a clown. Naturally, he had to bring up that he was a big Liverpool fan, all his points were irrelevant.
Wasn’t Ben white on banch for England last World Cup? He was not even given single chance to com on at the time! Com on guys! He did the right thing! May situation may have escalated as it is now! He tried but he was not treated right!
Protect my RB at all costs.
Jamie knows no more about representing his nation than any Talksport listener.
yes, IT DOES work like that..... plus, Ben White is not interested..... national team has Kyle Walker who was SUPERB the whole tournament
Thank you to that United fan, speaking truth from an unbiased POV
It was up to Southgate to sort it, and he didn't. That's why White declined. Wake up.
Look beyond what? Its his mental health, why should he sacrifice his mental health abd peace just for England...?
Carrick was a player that also turned down England, nobody made a fuss about that.
Zlatan, Cruyff, Eto'o, Breitner, Schuster, Pele. Grow up Jamie!There is a rich history of players saying no to their country. Focus on the Why and not the What. The boy scout Southgate clearly lied about what happened between White & the Cone man. Read between the lines.
I think you need to consider that playing for their country isn’t everyone’s dream.
jadon sancho walked out on Man U & said he’d come back when Ten hag went. Didnt hear you saying much about that.
Not sure you have the right to criticise someone for their choices.
Jamie needs to understand, even if im working as a waiter in UK, i'm somehow contributing to the economy, doesnt mean i need to work if i dont like the way my employers or supervisor behave with me... It's that simple.
Exactly, he is not being called up by his country to do national service or to fight a war...he's been called up to play a football match, which he gets paid for, because it's his job, and he has choice.
Nah he’s welcome back and he clearly had a personal problem with the manager and now that idiot is gone he’s coming back
Do people forget that Ben White has literally said he doesn't like football. Maybe he just doesn't want to play more games
That’s not what he said. He said he didn’t grow up watching it on tv and doesn’t watch other games in his spare time because he’d rather switch off and be with family.
New management. New opportunity. If he is good enough and wants to he plays. Period.
Firstly, who said he wants to play for England? Secondly, you really think Southgate would have played him? Trent couldn't even get a proper look in
I'm probably the last generation that believes it's not for money I used to dream of seeing myself in a white shirt in a number 7 shirt or just be there like every other young lad I belive it's just sad , emegan the whole country watching u and making your family and the country so proud it's the peak of what u work for I only made reserves at league 2 but I didn't stop believing
Unitll I realise witch is sad
In my opinion, which isn't worth much, there are a couple of ways to view the Ben White situation
The first is that the player wasn't happy with something/someone and decided he no longer wanted to be a part of the situation.
Subsequently he refused to play for his country and if this is down to a players ego and the whole thing is about player power, you have to wonder what would happen if Arteta or memeber of staff in club football upset White, would he then refuse to play for his club?
The other scenario, which i hope is wrong, is that whatever was said/done to White in the England camp was so upsetting that he couldn't bare to be a part of it.
I would like to think this isn't true because Southgate publicly defended his staff and said nothing had happened. So if something bad has happened, then Southgate along with the members of his staff would need to be investigated, along with the FA for covering it up.
Also the other England players who were part of the group would have been guilty of not standing up/helping Ben White and choosing to remain quiet in order to further their own careers.
So it's either the player's ego and attitude that's the problem or a lot of people need to get investigated.
Didn't want to bench warm
Who cares? He isn’t a missing piece in the jigsaw. He has made his choice and if he doesn’t want to represent England, that’s fine. I don’t understand why this is even a story. If we were talking about Bellingham, Kane, Rice etc…. Actual key players.
Jo talking rubbish - the other players would welcome him back with open arms. He literally plays with two of them at club level
How are they saying "you are chosen" but are still claiming he shouldn't play when the next manager picks him ?! Bunch on clowns .. it's actually great that England didn't win because these guys don't deserve good things at all
Honestly, what is this guy on? Jamie 'I love the manager of Spurs' 6 months later 'sack him'
Maybe it’s down to Ben whites desire? I mean we’re talking about someone who doesn’t even watch football. So clearly doesn’t really care about it or England, so maybe it’s best he turns it down as he doesn’t have the right passion/attitude
If it was bellingham or foden you wouldnt be discussing it
First caller spot, I know entertainment, but let’s be real
Why would he even want to return when he can spend his 3 time on the beach with his wife & friends
Rent free
I would like to see the tears of these clowns when the new manager comes in calls Ben White and he is back in the England team
I think it’s a disgrace refusing to play for your country I would give my arm and leg to play for England no matter what 🏴🏴🏴
He's so wrong on this
Why is everyone blaming Southgate, every England manager has had problems with a player in the past (Hoddle and Gazza and Le tissier, Taylor and Lineker) some people just dont get on and its not just an England thing i remember years ago Cantona refused to play for France because Houllier. Its life, personally i think White is garbage but thats my opinion!
Aye there are great players out there but none from Liverpool unfortunately 🤣
First person from Liverpool to describe playing for England as an honour. Is this a hoax!!
Ohara wouldn't play if he falls out 😮
Ben stay home you ain't missing out at all. England is pure disappointment anyways.