Ahsoka vs Maul - Star Wars: The Clone Wars - Season 7 Episode 10
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This alone is BS. Ashoka shouldn't be able to hold her own against Maul. She is only knight level in power right now. They make villians too weak in this shit show.
Smh completely forgets that Padawan Obi-Wan and old Obi-Wan defeated Darth Maul or the fact that after one minute of the battle Ahsoka was already tired while Maul showed no signs of being worn out or that a younger Ahsoka took on Anakin and Obi-Wan (yes they held back but even the two of them still couldn’t disarm her which was their goal to somehow stop her from attacking) or that she fought evenly with Maul in Rebels (and Ahsoka was on the run for those last years after Order 66 so she couldn’t train because there were no Jedi; therefore her skills can’t improve much and have to be close to Season 7 Clone Wars Ahsoka) or the fact that Maul is usually only defeated purely because of his arrogance except Sidious (but even then he thought he and Savage could take him).
@@billclark5055 wanna know what more bs I need Disney+ to watch it
@@turtleturb3752 Qui Gon helped Kenobi tire out Maul. Maul had him too, then got arrogant. But Maul isnt a retard, he reasonably would have learned from his loss to padawan Kenobi. And wouldn't have made the same mistake vs Ashoka.
But I thought about. This Maul is washed up. He just lost his brother and mother. We can see that hes mentally shot in rebels and is desperate for a brother. Maul that took over Onderon or in TPM would have crushed her. Kenobi got lucky
*Meanwhile, on the other side of the galaxy:* Hello there.
And on another side of the galaxy... : You can't ! He must have trial !
Don't steal my line
General Kenobi!
@@James-xw8li I've been trained in your Jedi arts by Count Dooku
Oscar Vasquez don’t steal my line.
“You have Kenobi’s arrogance”
*Everyone liked that*
@Paige Ferrucci does maul even know who anakin even is
@@michaeljames6737 yeah it doesn't make any sense. Maybe he was told about the boy that was with Qui gon and Kenobi. And he later assumed that boy was Kenibo's aprentice. Or maybe he learned about him from a vision
José Luis In the episode, Almec literally says for weeks now Maul has been having visions of a sense of dread, and the name Skywalker keeps popping up
@@michaeljames6737 of course he would, he's the Republic's most decorated war hero
Funny how as he said that, hello there probably just happened at the other side of the galaxy
Maul: "You have Kenobi's arrogance."
Also Kenobi across the galaxy with Grievous:
"Hello There."
"General Kenobi."
With robotic coughs in the background.
Here to tell you that you have 1.1k likes 6 months later
@@cookie6363 Kill him!
*Kenobi the proceeds to defeat Grievous’s bodyguards with little issue*
@@bencase1255 Droids then point guns at Kenobi
@@underworld323 “Back away! I will deal with this Jedi slime myself”.
This fight is great because Maul and Ahsoka are the single two best developed characters in the entire show.
Except Maul was a pure fan-service who didn't really impact the Clone Wars in any way and useless as a character.
@@anton.chigrinetc.96 LOL
No.
@@kyled7969
Lol yes. Name me at least one moment when Darth Maul actually caused the overall plot of the Clone Wars (I mean the intergalactic conflict, not the series) change its flow?
@@anton.chigrinetc.96 The show was never about the overall plot of the Clone Wars. It was about how the war impacted Anakin and Obi-Wan through the eyes of Ahsoka and the Clones. Maul was a HUGE part of Obi-Wan's arc in the show.
There were all too many moments and arcs without any trace of Ahsoka, Anakin, or Obi-Wan, for you to talk about it like that. The Clone Wars are talking about the Clone Wars. And Maul didn't impact it at all. He was having some "plans" that he was trying to implement...somehow...but all he did in both TCW and Rebels was failing on that. If he actually had plans.
the fact that Ray Park himself motion captured Maul makes this duel a lot crazier.
Who motioned ahsoka?
Doven Rampola
Lauren Mary Kim its in the credits she was a stunt double for the armorer in the mandalorian
I was gonna say, this looks very realistic as far as animation and the speed that he moves. It's not as abrupt and choppy as most animated fights
@1993DJC Haha! Id watch it in 0.25x speed, i wanna see how each of them move its just so EPIC!
Jeremy Agustin ya, it makes us more realistic but cool because it’s so smooth...
Anakin’s training, Kenobi’s arrogance and if this season was any indication Qui-Gon’s moral flexibility.
And her growing spirituality towards the Force like Qui-Gon Jinn. She’s the encapsulation of the best of Kenobi, Skywalker, and Jinn.
determinator 94 she really is the blueprint
But seemingly the weakest
Go further back and you will find dookus disillusionment and Yodas wisdom as well.
Alex I wouldn’t say wise at least not at this point in time, she really serves as a mentor in rebels but she does have Dooku’s broken faith in the Jedi.
Maul: "You're not even half a Jedi"
Ahsoka: "This is a fair fight then, you're only just half a sith"
Like damn girl.
even Mustafar can't provide this level of burn.
Maul was only half the man he used to be
I hid my name Cause African Dude's Got a Point Sorry to correct you but Maul says "You're not even a true Jedi" not that it really matters anyways. I do think this knee flows better though, otherwise it just sounds like he was setting himself up.
when did she say that
@@shiby1860 in her book. You should check it out if you want to see how she handles the aftermath of order 66.
“You’ll find I have many qualities for you to dislike.”
BOSS LINE.
I think it's such a great line, because it's basically just self roasting, but in doing so also acknowledging that she's got a lot of character. Like, to some people, she's very unlikeable, but she's unlikeable to those people because of the qualities that make her who she is, and a good person.
It's also a little nod to Luke's line in ESB
"You'll find I'm full of surprises"
@@pred6 what? I think she's very likeable
I literally use that line anytime I see fit
@@sebastianhaney1425 Pretty annoying early seasons
Ahsoka. The only character in all of Star Wars to face Maul, Vader, Sidious....and live.
And she did three of them in the same say
and grevious and ventress. Lol the only villian she never interacted with was dooku
@@jokerhalo1 Probably for the better, Dooku would have destroyed her
Sidious...?
@@jacobrowe9226 yes in rebels
Can we just appreciate how great of a voice actor Maul has, his emotions are perfect.
Feel like the inner Starkiller of Sam Witwer really wanted to go berserk on Ahsoka in this fight 🤣
Sam Witwer is amazing
That’s sam witwer for ya
BlackShogun 27 I could definitely hear some Starkiller when Maul was pointing out how the republic had already fallen.
@@Fi_Sci_ honestly, I just keep hearing Starkiller bleeding slightly into other characters Sam voices.
the fact that she takes a moment to catch her breath makes it that much more realistic. This episode is top tier
Filoni himself it took everything she had to be on the same level as maul, shes luckly he wanted her to join him and not kill her
Yea Rey would just have pulled a third lightsaber out of the air and chopped him before she teleportet back to her friends and lived happily ever after
@@stickman1787 um, I think that after he asked and she refused it was established that one of them was gonna walk out of the room alive. Ahsoka's priority was to CAPTURE Maul, so she wasn't exactly trying to land lethal blows herself. Can't say the same for Maul tho considering Ahsoka was a threat to his goal at that point. So, conclusively, he wasn't going easy on her...
@@sebastianhaney1425 i think he was going easy, there were multiple times in the fight where he could’ve finished her, his main goal was to get her to join her, then after it changed to escape the planet, Ahsohka is strong, but at the point in time i truly believe maul wouldve won a 1v1 deathmatch
@@stickman1787
I liked Ahsoka but fans need to understand that Ahsoka is nowhere near Maul. Maul's flaw is only one and it is his arrogance and you are absolutely right.
Maul wanted her the moment she got disarmed that tells something.
Count Dooku: "Sifo Dyas understood, that is why he helped me."
Kenobi: "You lie."
Maul: "he has long been groomed into becoming his new apprentice"
Ashoka: "You lie."
she really does have Obi Wan Kenobi's flaws
Aside from Sifo Dyas and Qui-Gon Jinn, who are both long dead, and Barriss Offee, who went crazy, all the Jedi, or in Ahsoka's case ex-Jedi, had their heads too far up their own arses to see what was going on around them.
Daniel Wood it is why you can never reason with religious folk. When the truth is explained, they refuse to acknowledge it.
The Shitstorm Starter yes (anakin at the time)
@@StoicSurvivor99 this is the most truth I've seen in so long
Jake Tryon
That is so true xD
Ashoka: You’ll find I have many qualities for you to dislike
Luke: You’ll find I’m full of surprises
Lol
*Ahsoka
G-Roy that’s Harry Potter
The son of Skywalker and the Padawan/Sister of Skywalker. I love it.
This alone is BS. Ashoka shouldn't be able to hold her own against Maul. She is only knight level in power right now. They make villians too weak in this shit show
This is honestly one of the best choreographed lightsaber duels in Star Wars that I’ve seen.
Yeah this fight is on par with the lightsaber duels in clone war's 2003 which were AMAZING
Darth Maul's mo-cap was done by Ray Park himself!
@@funsohng I heard that's definitely a high point
funsohng and Ahsoka’s was done by Lauren Mary Kim (who ironically does the Armorer’s fight scene in The Mandalorian)
@@maverickproductions3818 ah cool info
I like how at 1:24 or so they actually take a moment to show just how winded Ahsoka really was, like yeah she was talking a big game to throw off maul but it shows that it still took a lot of effort to fight him off, something probably even more impressive given that she hasn't been in practice with her lightsabers for some time.
Yeah, in the star wars download it says because she never had to fight someone on this level before.
So she has a bit of adrenaline pumping from a bit of fear. And they wanted her to make this a really difficult challenge making her give it her all.
@starscream is lord True, I think they implied by force ability as well. If you want you can check the download, I'm obviously not the creator so I wouldn't know everything. All I know is that they wanted to make this fight a real challenge for Ahsoka; not handed to her on a silver plater(at least at that point in the time line as she is still just 17, Rebels though is a different story).
Sorry for the long reply
starscream is lord yes and no,
old canon grevious was extremely skilled to point in labyrinth of evil Jedi council members like mace forfeit a fight with grevious via bfr the moment he realized grevious was adapting to him and almost mimic vaapad, ( and keep in mind grevious wasn’t all out yet he was still using two blades and also had mobility disadvantage as he lock to the floor yet he still was contend mace to a stalemate)
New grevious is complete joke, he can’t beat a padwan in fair match had to play dirty sneaking in a blaster to win and struggled with Jedi master needing his guards to helps and lost ventress in fight (old canon grevious was stated far superior to her and he beat the shit out her when she had help with best Jedi killer bounty hunter at the time Durge)
So given Ashoka only exist in new canon, the statement holds true as she never existed in eu thus never fought legends grevious (who would have absolutely slaughter her)
Maul was the better duelist and he should've won if he wasn't so arrogant
@@nutellamonsta5602 Yeah during this duel yes he would've won. Although Ahsoka did put up a good fight she was still only 17 while maul is 35. Although you could say that Maul isn't in the correct Mindset anymore. Regardless, I believe during the clone wars era, Maul beats Ahsoka. In the rebels era, Ahsoka beats Maul.
I’d find it hilarious if behind the scenes, someone said Ray Park actually was kicked into a window to make this scene realistic
😂😂😂
Talking Fishbone
Person: ok, so to make this scene more “realistic”, you’ll get kicked into that window over there.
Ray: alright, cool- wait, what?
@@jayfeatherthesnarkymedicin8160
Person: "oh c'mon you got sliced in half and fell down a hole, this'll be a piece of cake for you!"
XI - I - 18 - Max Cavalera
Ray: uh, this- this doesn’t look safe. I mean, what if the glass shards become lodged into my skin or something?
Person: oh don’t worry, we made sure that you won’t have any injures from that. Even though realistically, that’d happen. But hey, this is Star Wars so logic’s out of the window.
Ray: did you make that pun intentionally?
Person: heh, yeah. Oh, and in this episode, the window panel will explode and send thousands of glass shards flying which won’t hit Maul or Ahsoka.
Ray: wait, but how does that work?
Person: idk, but in movies when a person gets in contact with glass shards, they don’t get any injures. So... fuck logic.
Wait really!?
She makes you understand why she dispatched the Inquisitors so easily lmao. She fought on par with maul, even if for a moment
Agreed. Eventhough she should not have been able to beat maul so easily she did and did it amazingly considering she hasn't uses her lightsabres in a long time. I think in rebels she would have beat maul much easier.
Kiro Alveranga Maul hasn’t held a lightsaber in a while either. And he didn’t want to kill her
@@kiroalveranga7771 Wow wow, I get what you mean, but even in Rebels, a battle between Maul and Ahsoka could go either way.
Also the inquisitors aren't really all that tough, barring the Grand Inquisitor, they'd be a potential threat to Palpatine otherwise, which he wouldn't allow. Their job on paper was to hunt down Jedi, but in reality it was more to identify Jedi so Vader wouldn't be dispatched over false alarms, and low-skill padawans. Any Jedi Knight, or Padawan with more than a few good years of training would make short work of most inquisitors.
@@geassdemon6202 I agree with you too. I'm not underestimating maul he is still not someone to be messed with.
I really wished that there was a fight between Maul and Anakin. It literally took Ahsoka mentioning him to Maul to make me realize that that the only encounter Ani and the Maul ever had was when Darth Maul almost ran him over on the Speeder bike in The Phantom Menace.
Me too. I do think Anakin at this current point in time would've won though.
@@Lordhodge1 Anakin would of won. That's why Maul wanted Ahsoka's help. I do think both maul and ahsoka could of taken anakin
Also on Malachor. Although not as close.
Maul does say with certainty in Rebels that he can't take Vader alone, and he already lost his Crimson Dawn organization by then. I get the feeling we're in for a Vader vs Maul movie later, where the Empire crushes the Crimson Dawn, and Maul is forced to flee, ultimately stranding him on Malechor.
@@rosariocrimson Maul was supposed to fight Vader in Rebels season 2 finale. They did the Ahsoka one instead due to the emotional weight
Meanwhile, in Coruscant:
"Have you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise?"
I think that happens during Obi wan and Ashoka conversation of anakin’s secret mission
Things are moving way faster than that.
By this point, a third of the Jedi Council is dead. The rest of the Order will follow in a couple minutes. And as Maul screams about how they're all going to burn, Ahsoka has no idea how right he is.
But she's about to. Hopefully she's not still standing on that thin beam when the realization hits.
@@f.i.r.e.5119 well this comment was wrong lol
“You’re lucky Anakin didn’t show up. The way you’re fighting, you wouldn’t have lasted long.” GOD THIS IS SUCH A GOOD LINE
But it's sort of untrue
@@centurionyt431 it is after order 66.
@@liammercado1235 So? I know that already...
@@jennas9033 If you read some of my other comments it'll explain my reasoning, I'm not going to go through a bunch more of these convos...
@@jennas9033 I wouldn’t say destroyed lol maul held a fight against Sideous for like 5 minutes
Maul did a sith scream at the beginning just like Palpatine did against windu
Its palpatine's one: hint that this takes place at the same moment as Windu vs Palp
@@gnathonLesturgeon are you sure why would they play it at that scene. I thought samething sith do to put fear into their enemies
@@senseityranneus9787 at the end of the fight Ashoka looks at a broken glass, like a Window with a hole in it. Hinting at Windu's death. So i really think thats it. Plus the scream is not loud enough. Maul grunts before engaging but we dont see him actually scream.
Sensei Tyranneus he is right they did that to so people would know that this is happing at the same time so next ep is order 66
Kyle Harbin Thats what I was about to say. Besides I think we’re at the point where Obi Wan is on Utapau but he hasn’t killed Grievous yet.
This was hands down the best lightsaber duel in the series, the fluidity of the animation is incredible.
The fluidity might have something to do with the fact that it was actually mocapped
Honestly I think this is either 2nd place or tied for first for me in the whole franchise, along with the OG duel against Kenobi in Phantom Menace.
I did like it a lot and the motion caputre was appreciated but I think I still prefer Sidious vs Maul and Savage. Its just amazing to see Sidious in a full on duel.
Comic Crossing I agree, I think maul and savage vs sidious is hands down the best lightsaber fight ever
Elijah Tahau mocap suits tend to do that
I love how Ahsoka’s a lot more mature and confident in herself
I feel like Maul performed very well here considering the circumstances.
This was the first time he's used a dual-bladed lightsaber in a proper duel in 13 years.
I think it is his brother lightsaber
@@RyZeRxWolfChannel it isn't. One half is his own lightsaber, the other half is the one Ventress would have used in the Dark Disciple arc
He wouldve easily destroyed her tbh, if he simply wanted to kill her instead of wanting her to join him
He wasn't fighting for real. We've seen what maul is capable of. When he was ahsokas age he fought obiwan and quigon at the same time.
1:04 that lightsaber shoto flip was a thing of beauty
Of course
Death Star Ahsoka Stark. Arya Tano?
Reminds of the Cap/Winter Soldier fight on the street where Bucky does something similar with his knife. That fight was also supremely well choreographed.
One of the best shots In a duel ever
Far above, far above we don't know where we'll fall Far above, far above what once was great is rendered small.
This fight was amazing. Former Jedi vs Former Sith.
They even got the original Maul combat artist to do Maul’s moves. Just so awesome.
And Ahsoka´s moves were done by the stuntlady who doubled for Elektra in Netflix Daredevil/Defenders shows.
Lauren Mary Kim,is her name there´s a cool video with her and Amy Johnston (one of the 2 stuntdoubles for Black Widow in the MCU) here on youtube,check it out.
@@doublep1980 Lauren Mary Kim also did the Armorer fight in The Mandalorian
*_He's lucky I didn't show up_*
Anakin Skywalker the younglin weren’t lucky that you showed up
I was the 66th like
Rajan Bhateja lets just take a moment to remember the younglings
@@nickomode1 of course
Like the younglings maul wouldn’t have lasted long
Can we just appreciate how Darth Maul’s movements look so much like Darth Maul. His aggressive, athletic -all over the place fighting style just fits him so well. Clone wars really did justice for him and every character.
That's because this specific lightsaber duel was motion captured with ray park, who played maul in live action
except my boy grievous
They did him justice until they had him lose to Ahsoka....
@@centurionyt431 he didn’t lose to ahsoka. They were evenly matched, though Maul did have the upper hand most of the duel, as you could tell Ahsoka looked like she was mostly defending herself, and by the end of the duel, each escaped w their lives, but Maul pretty much had the upper hand in their duel, despite having to sometimes play dirty to.
@@FirstNameLastName-il1qz I don't know about playing dirty, there are no rules to a lightsaber duel, you can do whatever you want. But Ahsoka won because of plot armor, and Maul wasn't actually trying to kill her.
When Ahsoka proves to be better than Rey in two minutes than Rey in three movies
My thoughts exactly
Rafael Enriquez Tbh bro the trilogy was messed up in episode 8. After Thant any thoughts of character development went out the window.
To be fair, Ahsoka has had the better part of decade to have her character developed. It's not really fair to compare the two.
And to be honest, a lot of people didn't like Ahsoka when she first debuted.
Dacudo Ragnarök Key word you said first debuted. Rey has had 5 years and people still don’t like her.
@@antoine121 Actually when I said first debuted, I was referring to the movie and the TV series. There are reviews of people not liking Ahsoka going well into the 4th season of the Clone Wars TV show.
Around the fifth season the opinion on her began to shift. But that's a lot of time man.
And Ahsoka has a had a movie, as well as well over 7 seasons worth of screen time.
technically more since she appeared in Rebels and is going to be in The Mandalorian.
Honestly, comparing the two just doesn't work. The playing ground just isn't even.
Give Rey that same amount of time and dedication, and I'm willing to bet the tune on her would flip too.
I mean lets not forget it was a little over a decade ago everyone hated Anikin from the prequel trilogy.
Then Clone Wars came out and things changed.
You Star Wars "fans" seem to forget these little details when it comes to recalling history.
Just saying.
The choreography in this duel is so dynamic and fluid. I pretty much expected Maul to disarm Ahsoka of her blades
He does
@@batalorian7997 Twice
@@nicname3147 true but ahsoka hasnt really engaged in lightsaber combat in a while so I give her props for doing as well as she did
@@scottgraham6669 Oh absolutely. She was actually able beat Maul. Qui Gon couldn't even manage that
Nic Name He wasn’t actually trying to kill her though, he wanted her to join him.
1:24 i like how you see that she is struggling, but after this she keeps fighting. That shows that Maul is a really strong fighter, its not easy for her to keep up with him, even when it looks like that.
Edit: Even the Producer said they did make this to show how strong Maul is. He is the stronger fighter, but he is too conceited, and this is why he loses at the End. The same thing like his first fight against Obi Wan.
When Ashoka said “You’re lucky that Anakin didn’t show up because the way you’re fighting you would have lost.” I mean no kidding
she wasnt wrong lol anakin at this point was one of the strongest in the order with obi wan mace yoda
"You're lucky Anakin didn't show up. The way you're fighting, you wouldn't have lasted long."
@J Jay And then Ahsoka disamred Maul seconds later, without a lightsaber lol
@J Jay Maul is good but not the best, his training was incomplete and he lacks experience - unlike Dooku who was a master duelist and didn't need Dark Side rage to compete, Maul almost entirely relies on it (Hence why he's so much more vicious when fighting Kenobi)
However to your point, they take the time to show the dual in the throne room exhausted Ahsoka, she may have put on a SkywalkerTM brave face but she was giving it her all to stay in the fight
THAT’S MY GIRL!
Seriously, look at how far she’s come combat wise; from arrogantly challenging Grievous and fleeing, to doing excellent battle with Maul and managing to gain an upper hand (albeit not easily). It’s incredible.
Remember when she got owned by ventress in the movie?
Maul lost the same way he did to kenobi he got cocky
No. Most of both fights, Maul was pushing her. It's sort of similar to the Ahsoka, Vader duel where Ahsoka gets a few hits in, but is overall on the defensive.
That's because ventress is very fast like ahsoka. In rebels ahsoka would beat ventress . Darth Vader and maul are slower than ahsoka so they have a hard time landing a hit. Ahsoka has so much potential and I know she lives up to it in rebels but she could become so much more.
Well to be honest Maul was going easy but you are right she has come so far, at some point she probably could of beat maul but not today (not really at least).
I can only imagine this.
The last thing that will ever be said in this entire TV series is,
"It's treason, then..."
SPOILERS
Nope.
Ep 11: Shattered (order 66)
Ep 12: Victory and Death
@@xd51000 yeah but just imagine it. It's just a complete silence, like a deafening silence and then it goes dark and the last words ever said would be "it's treason, then" and next you hear a lightsaber ignition and the scream and BAM! It's the end.
@@jonnnyren6245 That would be nice, but it won't happen
Based on the fact that you can hear Sideous's roar at the start of this fight, I think that line has already been said. I think the jedi masters are fighting Sideous while this fight is happening.
Zach I agree
Showing that titles aren't everything. Ahsoka is technically still a padiwan, but with all the skill and fighting she's done with various strong enemies, she's as skilled as a knight. There couldn't have been a better opponent for her than a fallen sith lord to test her mettle.
If I was in her place: I did yo shit, that mostly none of ya woul've done so make DA Master!
the jedi wanted to give her the rank of an knight, but she left so
Just like how Anakin wasn't granted the rank of master even though he proved he was as skilled as one (by beating dooku)
THIS! This is how you choreograph a lightsaber duel! They don't look like a pair of whiny teens swinging foam bats at each other they look like two people actually trained in martial arts dueling. Admittedly its stage fighting so there is plenty of flourish you likely wouldn't see in a real duel but thats the point, star wars lightsaber duels SHOULD look flashy and over the top, with twirls and spins but still look at least somewhat realistic.
Jubble These are real, apparently. They got Ray Park and Laura (Forget her last name, she was the Armorer in Mandalorian) to mo cap this.
@@starwarsfanstation403 I am aware and I was thrilled at that fact, real good send off for the shows last lightsaber duel to be mo-cap.
Jubble Aye, I agree.
Honestly, I'm just glad to see Maul using a double bladed lightsaber again and using it the right way. I couldn't stand the way Savage and the Inquisitors would use it. Swinging it around all willy-nilly with one hand.
This throne sequence has to be motion capture. The moves seem so fluid. And very grounded. Amazing choreography
MartialArts.Stunts321 Yup and it’s mo capped by Ray Park ( Maul’s actor from ep 1)
Cheesy Seagull that’s cool. Ray park is awesome.
Cheesy Seagull it must have been really cool for Ray Park to return as Maul in mocap
and Lauren Mary Kim (who did the Armorer's fight scene in the Mandalorian) did Ahsoka's mocap
That is that Disney money for you.
She's technically right, Anakin spent most of his Padawan years training against a hologram emulating Maul's style, and at this point he's master of several lightsaber styles which he passed on to Ahsoka. Maul would struggle against Anakin.
@Samba Warrior Yeah but at this point, he used it as a blunt instrument vs an extension of himself, as did Maul. It would pretty much be a battle of barbarians, Anakin is a much more skilled Barbarian.
I mean, Maul is no match to Anakin lol. Vader would destroy him and Anakin would wreck him as well.
Maul smacked Ahsoka and would be even with Anakin. Writers had to move the plot along so after he whoops and disarms Ahsoka they make him do some stupid shit like fall over (like always) when in reality he would’ve just force chucked her off the ledge. So now all the Ahsoka fan girls can claim she beat maul when she didn’t. Maul is more than a match for Anakin, he was trained by Sidious since he could walk to be a ruthless assasin
@@akshaysundaram1836 Chill my friend. Chill.
@@akshaysundaram1836 "Would be even with Anakin" No actually lol
"You're lucky Anakin didn't show up. The way you're fighting, you wouldn't have lasted long." - Ahsoka
it's the truth anakin was already on another level, he was among the 5 most powerful of the jedi order
@@davidmejia3947 That's not true at all. Anakin and Maul would be even in a fight, but ultimately Maul would win 7/10. The reason you think otherwise is because they made Ahsoka, a literal joke in combat compared to Maul, be able to win against Maul because of plot armor.
@@centurionyt431 Nah. Anakin would defeat Maul. Maul is too unbalanced and past his prime( still a force to be reckon with). Anakin during this time was on a entirely different level, and would handle Maul accordingly.
Anakin beat Dooku who is stronger than Maul, Maul would put up a good fight but ultimately Anakin would win
@@EntropiReality You can't just say that character 1 beats character 2, who is stronger than character 3, then character 3 would get beaten also. That's like powerscaling for anime, which I do also. Dooku and Maul are completely different fighters, not to mention that we've never seen a duel between Maul and Dooku before. I don't think Maul has a good chance of winning, but I think he can win and even if he doesn't, he'll make it pretty close. And just because Dooku is stronger than Maul, doesn't mean he's better than Maul. Obi-Wan is a better duelist than Anakin, but he's not as strong as Anakin and still ends up winning.
Fun fact: Maul calls her Lady Tano strike the fact that she's no longer a jedi. Something she is deeply hurt by in the books.
So she responds by calling him "only half a sith".
But.... she never says this
Grand Admiral Thrawn
It’s in the Ahsoka novel.
@@grandadmiralthrawn8116 This season retconned the books
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 fallen order started retconing the ahsoka book before the clone wars did. I guess the story group just made a decision to retcon the entire book
@@grandadmiralthrawn8116 When?
Well that episode was a solid 11/10, this is legit the best star wars content ever made
Yup
When the movie came out then there were so much criticism
And now...
It’s only going to get better in the next two episodes
@@user-dg2ub7rn8i Yeah, Maul is my favorite villain in Star Wars, but I don't get why people are complaining. Ashoka was able to compete with Vader, even injuring him. Maul got arrogant again, causing him to lose. Ashoka doesn't get enough credit for her lightsaber skills.
The watch Star Wars Theory Vader Episode
Michael Zahabi well to be fair against those fanboys, Maul did disarm Ahsoka a few times and had a majority of opportunities to Kill her, but refrained from doing so with the small chance that she would reconsider and join him.
And had he not mentioned his intent to kill Skywalker, She might have actually gone through with joining him.
Wow. Creative team and special effects guys are flexing with this scene.
"You'll find I have many qualities for you to dislike."
that's me in nearly every internet argument ever.
How the hell is this 1 minute and 49 seconds clip better than the whole sequel trilogy
Because Dave Filoni
Because Ray isn’t in it.
For those who’ve read the Ahsoka novel and the Son of Dathomir comics, has anyone noticed the retcons made in this episode?
I LOVE THEM!! (though arguably the Son of Dathomir comics weren’t really retconned)
Given Maul’s overarching motivations in this arc, I love Ahsoka’s roasts in this episode than in the novel (“You’re only half a Sith.”) For that matter Maul has proven himself to be a far more intelligent character than we’ve expected. Now that the balance of the galaxy has tipped towards the dark side, Maul is now aware of Sidious’ plan and what will come to pass. Everything he’s done in this arc is all to prevent Sidious’ plan albeit in his own bid for power.
Yes, I agree
Hahaha ya only half a with
She was so annoying during season 1 and 2 but now she's more than badass
I also noticed in episode 1, her call to Anakin was under the name Fulcrum.
Son of Dathomir didn't get retconned. One of Maul's former crime lords didn't rejoin, which is why Vos took his place.
@@robstefani9853 No, Ahsoka called Anakin on his personal comm channel, which he had named Fulcrum.
0:48 she literally was going to reverse impale him via the force.
Liked it much better than Rey’s catch after Kylo’s killing Snoke
Obi-Wan : Anakin killed Dooku while rescuing Palpatine
Ahsoka: Ok, guess we are killing now
Its ok she can probably just force resurrect him since thats a thing now
I dont know if anyone will remember but thats how X1 kills himself while trying to kill X2 in the psp game battlefront elite squadron
@@Vasif_Bugrahan_Alparslan oh realy? I just thought that this is a reference to how Green Goblin kills himself in spider man 1
i keep re watching this scene about once or twice everyday so far, its just incredible, amazing animation work, stunning visuals and perfect motion capture, this has to be one of if not the best saber duels in existence so far in my opinion, also it solidified Ashoka as my favourite star wars character by far, this and the duel with Vader.
Anton0096 once or twice? Those are rookie numbers 😂😂
This is better than any lightsaber duel in the sequel trilogy.
It's better than any lightsaber duel in the original trilogy. There is so much more stakes in this than Mark Hamill spinning around clumsily lol
@@sivad1025 The original trilogy didn't have the technologies.
@@user-ip5xn9ks9k Yeah, that doesn't make them better than they are though. Regardless, the choreography is just downright atrocious at times. I really love the originals and the lightsaber fights, it's just that Clone Wars has reached a point where the animation is so good that they have honestly surpassed the films. I'm rewatching some old episodes right now and it's ridiculous how noticeable the change in quality is.
The dust in the room they were dueling in was better than the sequel trilogy
@@sivad1025 Tbh it's still entertaining to watch. I guess what gets audiences past the clumsy choreography is the intertwined narrative and story development happening concurrently. I'm not saying this structure doesn't also happen with later material, because it does for the most part, but OT gets forgiven for being OT - classic and dramatic. I get the nitpicks, but I also can't help but not get bored every time I watch those old fights whenever I'm doing a rewatch; there's just something magical about them regardless of it imo.
From being a little force sensetive girl taken in by Plo Kon, then to being a padawan for Anakin Skywalker, and now to this? I can hardly believe how I've grown up to watching this series and Ahsoka. Makes me feel like a parent so proud of their child to seeing them finally becoming strong. I definitely cannot wait for the next episode of this, even though I already know of what's to come next.
Imagine how proud Anakin would be if he saw Ahsoka during this fight. :')
I know it's kinda obvious but we have two former apprentices both cast out of their orders, but one wishes to stand by it, while the other wishes to sabotage and destroy his
...all but by standards of his own order. So, technically, Maul was still Darth Maul. He merely wanted all the power for himself.
@@anton.chigrinetc.96 No he's just a dark side user at this point
J.J Abrams: Rey is the strongest female character in Star Wars!!!
Filoni: Hold my beer... 0:25
@@Steelblue3107 Who cares if your angry? People don't have to like Rey.
I dont believe jj ever said that, but ok.
Unoriginal copy and paste that's on every video of this fight uploaded to RUclips.
I don’t know. Ahsoka isn’t instantly taking down a sith lord with years of experience on her. I think you *best written*. The whole issue with Rey is that she IS insanely strong, but very very poorly written.
I love how we see similar movements from Phantom Menace but also increased jump attacks to compensate for his legs. He can’t do all the fancy acrobatics but he’s still agile and fast.
Already one of the best lightsaber duels in TCW so far
Best Rebels lightsaber duel in rebels has to be Old Obi-wan vs Maul
@@ryanbelcher25rb it lasted only 5 seconds but you're right
Neo Space one of the best in starwars period,
This might be my new favorite fight in clone wars. Maybe even in all of Star Wars
shinobi sensei I think he left it on dathomir in the cave we see in rebels
shinobi sensei this might be my favourite duel in all of Star Wars
Me too! Not just the choreography though. It's just a beautiful scene all around. I love when the window shatters and there's a quiet moment as the glass floats. Then Witwer and Eckstein give such great vocal performances when Maul is trying to tell her the truth but she's unwilling. There's so much emotion packed in the quiet moments that lead up to the duel itself.
The Phantom Menace: Darth Maul Was Cool.
Clone Wars: Darth Maul Is Awesome.
yyyyep. maul was cool in episode 1 since he was visually interesting and him being "the new darth" was innately fascinating.
the clone wars show reinvents him as a genuine character with genuine agency. his motivations, ambitions, fears, and personality are laid bare.
This has got to be one of the smoothest lightsaber battles in Star Wars. Every move flows from the last and into the next. Exceptional choreography!
"You'll find I have many qualities to dislike" her intonation as she attacked Maul reminds me of Vader's "You are unwise to lower your deffences"
And Luke's quote "You find I'm full of surprises"
Ray park is the body Sam Witwer is the voice. The perfect combination
I love this fight. It has enough realism that the sequel trilogy poorly and heavily depended on, yet it has the flair the prequel trilogy was known for.
It boggles my mind how they managed to bungle Rey's character so badly, when they had already done an amazing female heroine/protagonist in Ahsoka that fan's adored.
Ahsoka sucks though. Shes an annoying shit that took up too much screen time.
@@alexayala3405 She sucked in the clone wars movie and the first seasons of TCW, she actually had really good development
It’s not that surprising when the sequel trilogy as a whole was a mess. All the new characters felt like stock characters to replace our favorite original trilogy characters.
@@alexayala3405 Too much screen time of what? This is literally her plot.
My inner Star Wars fanboy was going crazy throughout the fight! I was giggling like a baby throughout! Definitely my favorite fight of the clone wars!
Same
I was smiling 20 minutes straight in this episode. It was just outstanding
Mine was too with how stupid this fight was. Ashoka is only at knight level right now. She shouldn't be able to beat Maul. She shouldn't even be at Qui Gon's level. They made Maul into a pushover like Kylo Ren
@@billclark5055 She´s even at lowballing around Maul level, 100% confirmed by Maul´s statements that she´s way above Savage Opress to the point he states "Together we can kill Darth Sidious". Pretty sure she aint match for A game Maul, but this aint A game Maul, A game Maul died ages ago after his brilliant fight with Qui Gon Jin he lost everything to his hubris, this Maul, while smarter hasnt caught up with what the other force users have been going through, he missed a good chunk of the clone wars in the first place and by the time he came back his first goal was a power grab and a revenge, those werent even the right goals to focus on, Rebels even got him some character development in that regard, by having him choose to focus on getting sith artifacts and learn more about the force to find a way to defeat Sidious in the shadows.
Incredible fight. Ashoka managed to keep up with maul, but not straight up beat him, which is impressive. Love the smack talk to.
Maul went easy on her, he wanted her to join him so he didn't try to kill her ( he offered the position 3 times during the fight, it's clear he had a different motive )
Kavin Suresh yeah I know, but she was still able to keep up.
Kavin Suresh I don’t know why you treat that as if it’s something noteworthy. If you’re holding back in a fight and get beat, that still means your opponent is better than you. Also find it hard to believe he was “holding back” when he swung several killing blows at her.
Ryan Keep in mind that this show has been pandering to Ahsoka heavily since the beginning.
@@dovelover145 And I'm supposed to care?
Why did this fight scene have more hype than rise of skywalker?
Because these people actually tried.
different people
Also clone wars is the best star wars media and has an amazing animation and has amazing stories that others can appreciate
Pom Voratarach better people with clone wars
Like Adam Drover and Daisy Ridley didn’t?
@@jackleighton1566 trash film rise of skywalker is
I love how Obi wand method of dealing with Maul is having a rock hard defense, while ahsokas plan is just to be aggressive right back. She really just said “imma kick his ass outa window”
ahsoka sure does love to go for her opponents pride...just like anakin
“the way you’re fighting you wouldn’t have lasted long”
“general grievous, you’re shorter than i expected”
What's absolutely ridiculous is that she's right. They nerfed Maul into the stone age just so Ahsoka could have a ghost of a chance. This is _Darth Maul,_ a vicious cyclone of death whose experience on Naboo _should've_ taught him not to underestimate people as young as Ahsoka. If didn't fight like he was handling a child, he would've been standing over freshly diced Togruta in ten seconds. Tops.
@@f.i.r.e.5119 Nah bro, you're overhyping Maul. He's not as powerful as you think in canon.
@@dianamaioru497
So... they nerfed him into the stone age in general.
This is sadder than I thought...
@@dianamaioru497 You are overhyping ahsoka, maul easily beat qui gon when he was very young and put up a fight for a very short time against palpatine, he should beat an average padawan
@David Kosiba Well he obviously didn’t, so idk what else to say except Maul is on the same level as the padawan of “The Chosen One”. Perhaps Anakin’s training gave her the edge?
This will go down as one of the greatest lights aver duels of all time
Rey and Kylo’s battles don’t even compare to this. So much intensity in one minute.
I love that they showed that moment of Ahsoka catching her breath at 1:22 , it really adds to the scene . It also shows that fighting Maul is NOT easy. She had to keep her poker face even though she was overwhelmed
this was one of the best (THE best in my opinion) fighting scenes in the entire canon star wars universe
If there is one aspect of clone wars I really enjoy, it is how they manage to maintain the same visual design and animation in every season. It really makes you feel as though you are watching the same show. Like maul looks exactly the same in season 4 and 5 as he does in this season even though those seasons were released a few years ago. It’s just nice to have developers that understand the concept of continuity.
Minus One you can definitely tell that with each season their is a jump in quality, however seasons 4-7 have proven quite seamless thus far, but Season 7 is by far the highest quality we have ever seen in Clone wars, from the action all the way to the characters motions and the way they express their emotions so clearly, compared to earlier seasons where it was more difficult to read emotions due to the more stiff motions. Primarily just Season 1 but that is forgivable since it was after all the first season testing the boundaries of what animation could do.
One thing I like however is that their are very few instances where we see Tears rolling down characters faces, but they are seen in powerful moments. Like Waxers death(he was my favorite and it tore me apart when he died), and I’m pretty sure as Ahsoka was leaving we saw her eyes watering.
And even though it’s not in the same show we see Ahsoka cry in Rebels when she comes to the realization she might have had a hand in Anakins turn to the Dark Side as Vader, it’s a gut wrenching scene with a great performance by Ashley Eckstein in my opinion.
Actually no, I noticed the model of Maul changed, but for the better, he actually looks like Ray Park in here
And Ahsoka actually looks like a seventeen-year-old version of her younger self from the first movie, instead of the Rebels version, which... I don't know whose face it is, but it sure as hell is not Ahsoka's.
You can instantly tell when they switch over to motion capture. It doesn't have that classic SWTCW large, choppy and fast movements. It's way more smooth which isn't a bad thing. A very well choreographed fight.
“You’re lucky Anakin didn’t show up, the way you’re fighting you wouldn’t have lasted long.”
She ain’t Little soka no more... 😂😂😂
I remember all those years ago when the clone wars first aired. The lightsaber duels weren't anything spectacular then, but now just look at this duel and how far the show has gotten.
they have a full disney budget now, so theyre going all out
This along with the Sidious vs maul and savage are the best
They have Mo Cap
And great animations
Is no one going to talk about the fact that she still defended herself against a former sith Lord with only a SHOTO LIGHTSABER for a moment?
A. Queen.
When i saw that i was like dam shes came so far since the movie
Niklas Kronlein and she managed to kick him and lose his bearing....yeah she is in a totally different level.
A Sith Lawd?
Idk_ Idc her growth has been insane over 3 years. She’s become such a powerhouse in this arch. I was like “where the hell was this skill in the Sisters arch?”.Maul is much more powerful than she is but he was cocky and Ashoka outsmarted him.
@@drakemondrianh3708 She probably just had to act like a normal citizen so that she wouldn't expose her many skills from being a Jedi
I could have never guessed that my favourite Star Wars character from when I was but a wee little child would become this amazing villain who would be loved by majority of Star Wars fans.
Maul is and always will be my favorite character 😀👍
The Wrath of Darth Maul is one of my favorite Star Wars properties. The more Maul we get, the better.
Picking a favorite wasn't hard for me; Snoke was wasted, Vader failed utterly at intimidation before _Rogue One,_ and Palpatine and Dooku's characterizations struck me as the paper-thin, tie-women-to-railroads types. Grievous was nerfed into the stone age after 2003, and I'm not even sure I'd count Ventress as a villain.
So, by default alone, Maul would be my favorite.
@@f.i.r.e.5119 awesome way to break that down haha :D go Maul!
@@tori9365
I forgot Kylo Ren. He falls into the same pit as Ventress; I found him too sympathetic to consider a villain. And there's the matter of the Sequels clearly not knowing what to do with him.
You can track every movement, as opposed to the original clone wars battles where characters fought at the speed of light.
0:55 I suspect judging by Maul's fear of Vader on Malachor. That might happen in the future.
Patrick Donnolley Vader could always be one of the contributing figures that destroyed Mauls Crime Syndicate, and who knows maybe we’d even get a Lightsaber Duel between them, red on red, with the winner being Vader, but Maul would still likely present a challenge.
@@Fi_Sci_ Odds are that some time between Solo and Season 2 of Rebels. Palpatine got sick of/bored of Maul running around. So he sicked Vader on to him. They fought and Maul lost but escaped.
Patrick Donnolley This would back up why Maul is aware of the fact he cannot defeat Vader alone, essentially admitting they had a previous engagement where Maul lost.
Would be interesting to see it come to some form of media whether it be Animated or a Comic. Seeing how Mauls criminal enterprise came to an end would be interesting, and we already know it doesn’t fall in Solo, so it would be further past that point and some time before Rebels S2 finale.
@@Fi_Sci_ Maul would only face Vader if forced to and would very likely prioritize escaping over having a actual fight though.
Sebas G we won’t know until we see it 😉
0:23 you can hear darth sidious scream This indicates that the start of when the Jedi try to remove the Chancellor from office in ROTS.
Patrick McMahon we won’t know until the next episode...
It probably isn’t. There’s a sene is the trailer in which Master Windu said “ I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi “ which is before the office sene, unless we don’t get the sene and it’s retcond from the trailer
Omg I didn't notice that! 😯😯 The migration of the clone wars and the film's is spot on, absolute masterpiece!
Lol yea I was wrong
That’s a force scream, sidous also used it against mace windu and the other Jedi
As much as i love obi wan vs anakin what i really love about this fight is that it doesn't look like they're aiming for each other's light sabers
Damn if they really do another future series while maintaining this high quality of lightsaber duels I would be hook. The fact that the impacts aren't fast and sudden but at a smooth speed that allows you to appreciate the choreography done for this fight is genius. Seriously I was watching this on my 4K and I was awe-struck by how smooth the body movement and actual saber strikes/impacts looked...
There a behind scene of the motion capture behind this scene it's incredible!
I've been looking forward for this
“My powers have doubled sense the last time we met Count”
@@ConnerFilms double the pride, double the fall *B O I*
So have I :)
Same!
The way Ahsoka is exhausted in 1:25, perfect presentation of where she is in terms of skill (compared to Maul). She stands up to him all right, but it’s a battle she has to fight with everything she has to offer or else she’ll lose.
Yep and the thing was Maul wasn't even trying to kill her he just wanted to make her join through force.
dude most of the strikes are to the face and torso,those are killing blows,since she refused to join him and this is like a few hours from revenge of the sith then he would have to kill her or injure her to get away
@@ryancabrera01 nah he tried to give her another offer a second time even after that. Then on their meeting on the Venator it was proven his telekinesis was way above hers (I mean c'mon a dinky one seat starship vs two Venator drive cores), and he still didn't attack her. He had constant opportunities to kill her but kept giving her the out.
0:41 Can't unsee Maul's little one-footed bunny hop
I just saw it as prime juyo that quick segment of attacks.😁
You can tell ray park motion captures this. All his moves here. The jump attacks and the twists he uses like he did against Obi Wan in the phantom menace.
omg soundtrack in this season is amazing
The whole episode has a very grim tone and absolutely fitting.
YO MAUL USES HIS MOVE FROM THE MOVIE EPISODE 1
Yep. This scene was motion captured and was played by the same guy who played as Maul in ep1
Rey Parker who was the one that played maul did the motion capture
Ironically that move is the one that gets him killed in rebels
@@thebravegallade731 OP is talking about the one where he rotates his torso back and forth to swing with both ends of the saber, not the hilt butt
I love how they animated the footwork correctly. The way Maul's leg kicks back when he attacks to keep him balanced is perfect.
This is done with mocap. Ray Park original Darth Maul from TPM done mocap for this scene.
I love how they made this tie into Revenge of the Sith perfectly.
Dave Filoni is a genius
You're lucky anakin didn't show up .
The way you're fighting you wouldn't have lasted long.
@The Shitstorm Starter I mean she isn't black. She is an orange togruta.
@The Shitstorm Starter That's not hair. She isn't human. She is a Togruta. Those are smooth appendages coming from her head, that humans don't have. I believe in Legends, those enhanced Togrutas' abilities to detect pheromones (sign aerosols) in the air. She is similar to Shaak Ti and Ayla Secura for that matter. Think of them similar to Maul's horns, except they look much more friendlier.
The Shitstorm Starter the fuck have u been smoking son? Black woman? Anakin isn’t a black woman
@@117MasterSpartan he's smoking some strong stuff .
1:22, wow this moment was amazing, look at her, she is clearly wiped out. Fighting Maul like a badass is h a r d, and actually struggles, this fight is what seperates it from a dance off, as so many prequel trilogy fights succumb to, and yet it isn't a wacking of plastic sticks either, like the sequels. I fucking love it.
Max Pants this has to be one of the best if not the best fights in the franchise.
@@Player6972LPJdef
When Ahsoka said she has many qualities he'll dislike it's similar to what Luke said to Vader in Episode 5 when Luke says you'll find out I'm full of surprises.
The music reminds me of The Dark Knight Rises' Deshi Basara theme, at least the heavy percussion parts. I love it.
R.E.Venge that’s what I thought
They really improved the graphics to fighting. It’s the smoothest thing I’ve seen. Almost like a traditional animated Disney movie.
Mo cap bro
Best light saber duel in the series
This is definitely my new favorite lightsaber duel
Definitely one of the most badass lightsaber fights of the franchise.
One of the best duels i've ever seen!
0:23-0:24 If you pay attention, you can hear the sith cry (just as Palpatine did vs Windu).
Some say this duel is at the same time palpatine is fighting windu
soflam it wouldn’t add up cause order 66 would happen immediately after Ashoka capture maul so it doesn’t line up
@@tylern6541 why it cant happen?
soflam cause as if the fights happen at the same time they would also end almost at the exact same time which means mins after Ashoka captures maul order 66 would happen
@@tylern6541 we are about to see if its happening
Ahsoka probably had the best and most unique training in her generation of Jedi - Obi Wan was a master of defensive techniques and Anakin was a master of offensive techniques. She'd have learnt both styles simultaneously throughout the clone wars which would've been fantastic practical experience unlike a substantial majority of the Jedi before the clone wars started who'd not have been trained during a galactic conflict. There aren't many young Jedi I'd believe being able to beat Darth Maul but I think Ahsoka had the relevant skills and was able to keep her cool enough to defeat him.
He was going easy on her dude
Jon Hammond dude this was only an hour be fore order 66 and she still refused to join him so if he wanted to escape he had to kill her or injure her pretty badly,all of his blows were killing strikes to the head and torso so...
@@ryancabrera01 He broke her force barrier and rag dolled her like it was nothing before escaping. Not to mention he disarmed and planted her multiple times during the duel. He could easily kill her