Biggest takeaways from Ravens heartbreaking loss vs. Joe Burrow, Bengals | NFL | SPEAK
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- The Baltimore Ravens took AFC North rival Cincinnati Bengals to its toes, with both teams going back and forth until DE Sam Hubbard scored off a 98-yard fumble recovery touchdown after Tyler Huntley lost the ball at the one-yard line to seal the victory. Lamar Jackson notably did not travel with the team. The Bengals will face the Buffalo Bills in the AFC Divisional Round. Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and David Helman share their takeaways from the Ravens loss.
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This game showed that in the 5 years lamar has been there the ravens haven't grown at all. This is the 4th time they lost because when they needed to throw they couldn't. Before the consensus was lamar needs to be better, but now its clear he was being set up for failure. Things need to change and if lamar has to leave for it to happen so be it, I'm sure he'll be successful wherever he goes.
He needs receivers and throw to them more. That's it.
Once Hollywood left ... the writing was basically graffiti on the wall at that point .... the Ravens management is delusional ... they pay Roquan for bad defense in the playoffs .... they always do this ... they keep looking for a new ray Lewis... and even then they weren't "great" .... they have always mistreated their QBs
@J Money just good enough to not stop Cincinnati from scoring at all right ?... ok ... cool ... but that explicitly expresses why some people believe Lamar should be paid right .... Ravens Management blew it in 4k in real time lol
Bro Bengals almost lost to a, weakened Baltimore, stop capping.
Did you watch the game they loss because of the FUMBLE 6 you're idiot
People need to understand that division playoff games will always be hard
They really do like look at the bills game they almost lost
I was tellin folk that... It wasn't gon be a easy game.. they know our schemes
Joy said that
Joy is the only person on this show with consistent takes you can tell her time on collins show helped her
Hahaha she fools people with double speak her initial statement was 49ers winning with Purdy then goes on to talk about teams needing a franchise quarterback
😆 Not even.
Her point is that if you don’t have a stacked team and a great coaching staff with perfect precision, you must have a franchise QB.
@@jamespressley1754 IDK if you're dumb or just hate that a women is succeeding in this space but she literally said that if you don't have a franchise QB then you have to have a generational roster to win which is what the 49ers have.
Joy was a Joy way before Colin Cowherd you just wasn't paying attention.
Joy Taylor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bringing that knowledge and her opinion to the front.
Let’s not forget the Bengals had three starters on their offensive line out for this game against the Ravens. They was without La’el Collins their RT,without Alex Cappa the RG,and without Jonah Williams the LT for three quarters of the game. If the Bengals went into this game with a fully healthy offensive line they would have probably won the game by at least 10 points and maybe even more. The Ravens front four was in Burrows face the entire game,but the Bengals found a way to get the job done. That’s just what good teams do.
Are you really comparing a MVP level franchise QB to a couple lineman?
@carmenwest557 the point is, the Bengals couda blown this out the water by 30
We probably win last week’s game by 10 with Cappa in the whole game and Collins as well. They had only given up like 20 sacks maybe in 16 games or so.
@@frankystrings dude y’all almost lost to a 3rd string qb and you talking about the line lmao foh
Add they r gonna be without them against the Bills
1:29 Acho: "Who's to say y'all would've beat the Bengals with Lamar Jackson?"
LITERALLY the Ravens' players Acho, that's who said it. 🤦♂
he a sell out
Is it not possible they lose with Lamar. They lost the game in Baltimore last year with Lamar playing and healthy. They win by 2 points in Baltimore with Lamar healthy this year.
@@ethanweeter2732 they lost because they were not healthy last year. Even this year. Lamar had like a 50 yard drive to take them to a game-winning position. The defense has gotten way better since the arrival of roquan smith (top 2 in the league). There is a higher chance of them winning with Lamar than losing.
Acho is clueless
He admits the offensive personnel is below avg but still blames Lamar for not playing well. He thinking backwards
Steve Young has been saying this for years "the ravens are holding Lamar back" they are not trying to develop his throwing prowess. Let's make it clear, Lamar can throw the ball, the offense coordinator has no interest in him throwing.
I see what Joy saying, because I have a lot of confidence that the Bengals would have found a way back to the lead because they have a DUDE leading that team. I'm a Ravens and LSU fan so I'm familiar 😅
They have DUDESS 😂😂
Thanks for being fair lol you’re absolutely right
He might have, but everything up until that fumble TD was pointing towards the Ravens winning that game
I'm a Ravens Fan too and knew the Bengals would find a way not only do they have a solid defense but they invested in building a solid offense something the Ravens neglected for 5 years.
Joy stay dropping dropping facts. Love her!
She just nonchalantly burst their bubble.
Joy was convinced the Bengals were going to win when the Ravens were posed to score on the 1 yd line in the 4th?
Sure lady.
@@effirsay2369 I knew the Bengals were going to win too it was no doubt in my mind. The Ravens front office are idiots for not investing in the Offense
@@InfamousJay2488 Ravens invested $20M more in the offense than the defense...
that acho take is hilarious
Can't agree with that.That team is not feeling Huntley. Those comments after the L are telling
He did kinda cost them that game
SHE KEPT IT REAL THO
I love the way the female put him in his place. Fabulous take❤
Lol. Be more WOKE
It’s annoying how the media expects perfection in the playoffs in a young QB’s career. Peyton manning choked early on and is still one of the all time greats.
Joy talk that talk 🗣🗣🗣🗣
Believe this if Lamar Jackson did play then the Bangles play a completely different defense they prepared for Tyler Huntley not Lamar Jackson so you can't compare whether they would have won depending on who was in there
It is no question that the ravens would have had a better chance at winning the game with Lamar compared to Huntley.
The Bangles 'walk like an Egyptian '. The Bengals got (almost outplayed) lucky. Bengal fan.
@@carmenwest557Better chance, but Lamar may have been less healthy than Huntley. Lamar has not practice in 5 weeks. That is a long time during the season to not practice and come in and play cold. He would have been slower running and his accuracy on certain throws off because the knee sprain. Burrow took several weeks to throw better with the appendectomy.
I love Joy... cuz she brings the sense of reason all the time and speaks facts while others speak in probables
"For you to even be in the game with your backup just lets you know how good Lamar Jackson is"
No, it's let you know the exact opposite, smart guy.
Last season they didn't make playoffs with that backup
Did you know that the Ravens were leading every single game after three quarters that Lamar started? Even in the four losses they were at least 10 at the start of the fourth
@@zregory Aand he was terrible in the 4th quarter. Kind of a big deal
@@newfoundmoralclarity how terrible can you be giving your team the lead in every single game?
Huntley lost 3 games out of 5. Lamar lost 4 out of 12.....
Joy acting like the Bengals offense wasn't held to 17 pts as well lmao.
None of these panelists know what they are talking about. The real problem in baltimore is the O.C
Her point is that if Lamar plays that 17 points by the Bengals goes even more noticed because lamar woulda played acho have been having some clown takes lately.
someone’s comprehensions skills ain’t there…..
@@ericfranklin4957 at least use correct syntax when trying to diss someone lmao. It's comprehension skills not comprehensions skills
We won🐅🐅🐅🐅🐅🐅
Everybody has issues, but seems that “analysts” keep forgetting Bengals are missing now 3 of their starting OL and our CB are also missing people. Theory from these guys sound great, but unfortunately all teams played in the real world. If they have, if we have, blah blah blah.
GO Bengals Whodey!
WHODEY!
If the Bengals had all their started Linemen it would not have mattered, Bengals would have won more easily.
The bottom line is depth the Bengals have won without Chase,Higgins,Boyd,Mixon and many pieces on defense too its always about depth and being able to change your game plan
Not when they all out now chase out tee and Boyd out Boyd and tee out chase back in
Missing a QB is different from missing some pieces to an offense. If Burrow was not playing, how would the Bengals do? That's the comparison you need to make.
You are not telling the complete truth. You know it.
I'm convinced that Acho is an Lamar Jackson hater
Yeah, he has that type of shade. His a little bit of a opportunist, say the wrong thing the right way
Acho played defense so he is biased towards the defense. All he does is talk up Demeco Ryan’s, his buddy
Roquan Smith just re-signed for 100 million and he has no agent... I don't want to hear that excuse that Lamar has no representation ever again..
Richard Sherman represented himself too
His contract was not fully guaranteed like the on Lamar is seeking.
@@sirhoopalot1125Bobby wag represents himself also
They remember who they were and they lost.....where is the benefit..all I saw was the defense left there heart on the field and had to go home with tears..tears!!!
Lamar isn’t a great quarterback, but he is a special athlete. He’s a good quarterback and a great athlete. The ex Texas Longhorn had the correct take, but Joy finally said something that was correct, the Ravens lost the game.
Well if the Bengals had their OL at full strength they could've won comfortably.
Yep
The Bengals oline has been bad for most of the year no matter the rotation. The Ravens offense without Lamar is non-existant. They are not the same.
At the end of the day, defense only matters if you can score enough points to beat the other team. You’re not going to hold a team to zero every week. This year’s Denver Broncos is a prime example. Your defense week in and week out isn’t going to be able to bail out your team if your offense can’t get it done at a high enough level.
The take away is the Bengals won. Period. Onto the next playoff game. HUDEY.
Acho wants to sound smart so bad it makes him look stupid most of the time. Talking like Al Sharpton doesn’t mean you are right.
Ravens had a chance to get Diggs twice and dropped the ball
I think Joy WAS watching a different game 🤯. I usually appreciate her commentary, but the Bengals were gifted points on 2 turnovers. The Ravens didn't lose because the Bengals were dominant. They lost due to 2 turnovers (one EGREGIOUS), horrible situational play-calling (abandoning Dobbins in the RedZone and opting for a QB sneak from 1.5 yds... Snoop didn't even get close, btw), poor clock-management in the final drive (they weren't getting the plays off quick enough and they were huddling around the one minute mark with ALL THREE TIMEOUTS still). No one expected for the Ravens to have a chance to win this one. Not a soul picked them. Not even Ravens fans. And yet, when they were on the 2 yd line (just before the stupid QB sneak fumble), everyone watching thought they were about to pull off the unimaginable. Everyone. So stop it with that mess. You know what I got from this game? Bengals better get it together if they want to make it back to the SB. Because they almost got knocked out by a team lead by QB2. They should probably concentrate a little more on the product they put on the field moving forward and a little less on running their mouths like they've never been here before.
Wrote an entire essay of nonsense. Goodjob
Omg it’s a division game gonna say that about bills they almost lost to Miami
@@b2g121795 thanks for reading 😉
@@isaiahford5610 I said the same about the Bills, yes.
@bryantaylor7820 I get what you're saying there. But Huntley passed the ball to Davis-Gaither giving the Bengals prime field position. On turnover 2, Roman called a QB sneak from way too far away, Huntley holds the ball out over the pile about half a yard away from the plane for it to get smacked out of his hands (poor ball security), and returned by the Bengals for a TD. I don't credit the Bengals as much as I blame the Ravens. Sorry 🤷♀️. I don't know if you're a Cincy fan or not. But good luck down the stretch.
Tyler Huntley did a pretty good job, all things considered.
Thank you, Acho! They have not had an identity since Ray, Ed, and Sizzle. They were not only the heart and soul but the voice and leadership of the team. They have tried to create something that is not their nature. I think if Lamar leaves they can win with Huntley if they give him a few weapons and make sure that defense is top level. And thank you for presenting Lamar's postseason performance.
Lol this team not making the playoffs with Huntley all year
What makes you think they'll give Huntley the weapons and defense that they couldn't or wouldn't give Lamar? It's not like Lamar was hurting their cap situation, and it's not more likely that top wideouts will sign to play with Huntley.
Laughable
So you rather give Huntley weapons than LJ 🤦🏾♂️
I’ve been a ravens fan since 05 but Baltimore has always had an identity. It’s always been defense and physicality and a good run game, just not every year showed that. With that being said it is 2023 and you can not win with just a good defense anymore. Lamar is the Ravens now and Huntley not it. Acho definitely tripping on this one
“Afc is ours” boy y’all almost got took out from a second string.
Who won?
It’s a divisional game in the afc north they’re always close the bengals will beat the bulls and the chiefs no problem
@@donovandziech6015 chiefs aren’t blowing a 21-3 lead again, you know, when it mattered.
@@sirhoopalot1125 so it didn't matter last time?
@@victorcaldwell2900 no it was a regular season game wym? Plus all 3x Cincy has played them they lost by a grand total of 9 pts lmao
Isn’t Hayden Hurst a Bengal now Making big plays?
I was confused about that, as well. Didn't I see him score a touchdown 2 nights ago? 😂
Gotta love Joy Taylor no sugar quotes 😂😆
Joy is always running circles around Acho logically. And Acho forgets the chiefs went into that Superbowl decimated at o line.
People are already forgetting that the bengals offense was held to 17 because the raven's possessed the ball for over 2 quarters worth of time. To have the ball that long and only score 2 TDs tells me the offense needs help.
If Greg Roman and Lamar Jackson still with The Ravens next year, We’re looking at the same results. Because that’s the same thing from years ago. In order to make any better change, you have to change everything you used to have. Make room for something worth spending. Ravens Nation.
Joy is the Turth !!! Straight. FORWARD
Joy was breathing fire
LOL Marcellus did that Mufasa “remember” thing first, when Acho was his co-host lol now Acho trying to play it off like he didn’t remember the quote 😂
Add Roquan’s 100 mil ankles to Burrows collection😂😂😂😂
😄
Go head joy! 👊🏿👏🏿
We’re not gonna talk about Joe burrow missing 3 o line pieces, cmon man if ur gonna pose it one way you got to pose it another
An MVP-level QB vs some starting lineman on a bad oline. There are levels to this.
@@carmenwest557 If you're missing 2 of your best linemen and 1 average one, it certainly makes a difference. Burrow isn't a magician.
And still made some dime throws I thought, that were dropped. Ja’Marr dropped a couple, so did Huggins.
@@carmenwest557 so before drafting ja’marr chase it was always “they gotta get penei sewell or he can’t throw to his receivers”, everyone has seen the graphic. But now it’s “some starting lineman” and who’s to say Lamar is full health, completely different situation that’s why I hate all these if questions
JOY had the best take by far... Mccoy brained more shook than his on the field moves
I don't think acho have a clue to what he's saying Joy really happy you're on this panel someone that knows football and being honest about what we all seeing
"Identify defensive talent and play really good defense."
That isn't enough to win in today's NFL. The game is focused on offense and you need a high powered offense that can put up points to win. Period.
This man said and I quote LOL you should be content as a Ravens fan even though they lost lol
Not only did Huntley not win the game. He lost the game with that fumble.
And Lamar never had lost a game with a or many fumbles ?
@@surinder474 Yes. He’s won plenty of games also
Yeah that's on the OC though, it was too far out to call an over the top QB sneak
We don’t know if the OC told him to reach like that though. Even Harbaugh said he was supposed to go low in the postgame
So an unhealthy Lamar Jackson beats the Bengals by running with a 80% knee? Ok 👍
Yea that's wild
Another funny thing, they keep saying if we had Lamar we would've won. OK, how about if the Bengals had 2 of their starting Oline back, not too mention losing a third and still beat them.
They say “the Ravens would have won with Lamar”we can also say the game wouldn’t have be close if Collins and Cappa would have played.
Just saying…
Joy was the realest one on this ! She’s usually on point though
The Bengals are 4-1 against the Ravens in the last 5 games and have outscored them 150-90. Lamar played in two of those games. A 41-21 loss, and a 19-17 win.... not exactly electric. I see Acho's point.
Ravens have set themselves up to fail. They should’ve went all in for Lamar while he was cheap. Now he is expensive and they have holes on offense.
Also the 49ners do have a squad!
The next few games for the bengals are against teams without a good run game. Other then the jags but I don't think they are beating kc. So perfect for our scheme.
Jags can play enough defense to beat KC, but not sure if they will outscore KC.
she had the best take out of all of them
She does most times
Joy: The Ravens win that game with Lamar.
Acho: Lamar does not perform well in the playoffs, and here are some facts to support that claim.
Joy: I ain’t tryin’ to hear all that.
Simps: Excellent point Joy.
Gotta love how Shady be sneak dissin the 9ers lol common bruh! Tell me he's not concerned if the 9ers went up against his Eagles! At least Joy showed a little love to the 9ers 😍 and Acho been showing love too!
Everybody's giving the Ravens credit which they deserve but how come nobody has mentioned the number one thing that changed the whole complexion of this game? That call on first-and-goal to have Tyler Huntley try to go to quarterback sleep was the dumbest call I have ever seen, no coach in their right mind would have even thought to call play like that on first down and it cost them the game! How come nobody's talking about that how come nobody's talking about the play-calling??
Joy should’ve just asked the simple question of whether or not they believe ravens would even make wild card game with out Lamar. Acho put a lot of emphasis on losing the playoff game barely, but would they even get there?
The years of winning in the playoffs with defense are gone. The ravens need a QB. Now I'm not convinced Lamar is that dude come playoff time, but at the same time, he doesn't have a lot of help. But let's be honest, Mark Andrews and Sammy Watkins are good enough. That's more help than other QBs get. The ravens flubbed this season before the season started for not getting his contract done. If Lamar leaves, they are no longer relevant.
Sammy Watkins?, boy stop...diggs, chase, Higgins, Hill, wattle, the list goes on... Sammy hammy ain't those dudes bruh..not even close..try again.. having one legit TE ain't enough..
My guy said Watkins is good🤣 he got cut like 5 times
Joy taylor keepin it real !!
The what if game? What if Lamar played? Welllllll what if the Bengals had all there starters on the oline?
In terms of impact on the game Lamar >>>>>> some lineman
@@carmenwest557 Yeah, no. If we had an intact o-line, Burrow would have had much more time for passes. .
How could she even compare the 49ers to the ravens lmao yea the 49ers have Purdy, but the ravens don’t have Deebo, Aiyuk, mcaffery, kittle
Bengals out scored the Ravens in 3 of the 4 quarters. Bengals were in complete control. They played bad and still won.
Joy is wrong! The Ravens were about to win that game! If they had Lamar, it would have been a win! She's been off lately!
The 49ers have a great defense & offensive weapons … Deebo, Aiyuk, Kittle, CMC & Juszczyk
They have an elite O-Line. Average to good secondary.
This show would be better without Acho. Joy's takes are the best logically.
11:10 shawty had Shady laughing on the low 🤣🤣🤣
People talked about how the Ravens d held the Bengals offense. The Bengals defense made better plays. Just accept the Bengals made better plays on defense. Turnovers are part of the game. The Ravens had that fluke play after the ball was badly snapped. The Ravens had the ball last with plenty of time and couldn’t get it done. Stop the excuses.
That's more of a playcalling issue on the Ravens end tbh but yeah
@@carmenwest557 they still have to execute. They’re pros.
@@carmenwest557 Excuses
I love Joy
Well yeah Bengals only had 230 yards… we only had like 6 offensive possessions lol
The way Shady looks at joy!!! 🥰
Lamar wouldn't have made a difference.... We were missing 3 of our offensive lineman... We had all three healthy we crushing y'all regardless... 40-17 we can play this game all day everyday
Without the fumble at the goal line, Ravens win that game, they weren't bad
I was pulling for the Bengals, but I felt like Huntley did a pretty good job, as did the rest of the team. Joey B just has strong ties to Looziana where we practice Voodoo, just in case anybody ever wonders how they keep having all these "lucky" breaks 😉
Joy is so full of it. The Ravens were dominating until the goal line fumble. No one expected the Ravens to win... BUT! until the fumble, the Ravens were running away with the game. The Ravens against one of the best offenses in the league held them to 14 offensive points. Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, Tee Higgins, Tyler Boyd and Joe Mixon... held to 14 pts...
Joe getting carried by his defence in the playoffs again
So Brady gets carried by his defense y'all don't have a problem but when Joe does it it's a problem
Last two Super Bowl teams the bucs and rams were carried by their defense and amazing pass rush. That’s the point of football, sometimes the offense is clicking to make up for the defense, sometimes the opposite. Hard to be carried to nine straight wins, why you care anyway. We get to watch joe, josh and Patrick in the playoffs. Look at joes stats against the chiefs 9-1 td ratio like 363 yards per game, just enjoy the game. You can like multiple qbs, josh is my second favorites and I don’t dislike Patrick just the e media dissing josh and joe when their stats are just below him. Joe is 1-2 in every qb stat, Patrick is the mvp this year but these clowns act like the gap is the grand canyon and they’re ignorant just love hearing the sound of their own voice like acho.
The same defence that couldn't stop Dobbins?, Joe did throw for a td and score another one with a qb sneak, and the bengals could not run the ball for the life of them, that Sam Hubbard return is one of the best defensive plays I have ever seen but lets be real, Lamar plays and that defense is getting cooked.
You sound salty. Burrow still played good. You aren’t winning a Super Bowl without a good defense.
@@mainmanjoseph8029 you see corny you sound! Now if I was corny I could easily say it out starting corner is playing y’all don’t score or if our starting RT or Starting RG was playing we beat y’all by 20 see how easy that is!
The Ravens theme song. If Lamar Jackson Was Healthy. LoL 😂.
Pay Lamar Jackson everything He wants. I Love that tune. If Lamar Jackson Was Healthy.
Ocho overlooked that this game the support around Huntley showed up. Not the same in them playoff games b4
100% agree on the easy button analogy.
The last Super Bowl the Ravens won wasn’t necessarily because of defense. Their QB only had one of the greatest postseasons a QB has ever had.
Ravens didn't score a defensive TD all season and still was elite after adding Roquan and see young defensive players step up. We had injuries on defense too like CB Kyle Fuller tearing his ACL in Week 1 and Michael Pierce tearing his biceps in Week 3. This defense actually could've been even better. The three OLBs we lost. One tragically passed away, Jaylon Ferguson and the two that tore their Achilles or ACL: Vincent Beigel and Steven Means. But I digress. This defense could win with a lesser QB than Lamar. But we also do need to improve our WR's as well
Joy kept it real, but Acho does have a very valid point.
Lamar Jackson has stunk in the playoffs. That is also a fact.
Lamar gets the biggest pass in sports
Lamar is the most hated QB in the league. SMH
Sport shows need to keep women's perspective on the women's sports only !
I must missed the super bowl that Lamar won. Cause everything they say sounds like he is undefeated in the playoffs instead of 1-4
Bengals lose 3 of their OL. I doubt if both teams are 💯 the outcome would have been different.
Joy their identity when it comes to winning with defense is two Super Bowls! Tf are you talking about? That’s why it’s a good sign that their defense is strong!
Within 1 minute of her take, Joy contradicted herself. Says there’s not an asterisk beside wins and losses. Then says the 49ers “win, not win, dominate”. So does it matter how a team wins or not?
Don't sleep on Joe Flacco. He is like the opposite of Lamar. Mid in the regular season, but he turned up in the playoffs when he was with the Ravens.
Ravens SuperBowl vs Giants. Elite defense. Please look at their offense. There were outstanding weapons to support that qb by committee. And Trent Dilfer got traded. They didn’t get back till Joe Flacco came with his big arm. Defense does not win championships. Teams win championships.
If you give Lamar Jackson a fully guaranteed 250 million dollar contract you're not going to be able to afford offensive weapons
They can always invest less in the defense? The Ravens spend more on defense than any other team in the NFL currently.
Defense is overtooked
Your defense can hold a team to 20 and you score 21 you win so defense does matter!