Score Progression: Through The Fire and Flames
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- There's quite a few things I wanna say regarding making this video.
(Besides the fact that my thumbnail might not update)
The Clone Hero video I made this before this was to give a very subtle hint to my subscribers at what was to come, perhaps too subtle haha. This video was originally inspired by Randy's 150% FC of the song. It hit me out of nowhere that I could do something brand new for once and challenge myself to make a score progression video on a game I've known about for a while, but didn't quite know every little detail of. Little did I know, I would be digging through hundreds of Scorehero threads finding stuff I never thought I would find and the result would be just over the 40-minute barrier. This video has been more or less done for a few weeks now (With some minor polishing) but I wanted to wait until I was 1. Comfortable enough to post it, and 2. To wait until people were done with college so they weren't distracted by a 40-minute video lol. I had a ton of fun making this and I can't wait to see what else I can dig about this game that I might not have known before.
I've been gathering sources for various other videos I want to make about not just this game, but other games as well but I can assure you I have another one in the works for this game!
Big thanks to Randyladyman, Darkly, Hellashes, Razzy, Snover, Brighton, and some of my friends back home for giving me the A-okay on this video Your input motivated me to go through with this project since Mid-August and I highly appreciate you all checking it out.
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This is just the beginning, my dudes.
I finally got a chance to sit down and fully experience this vid. this needs to be seen by anyone who cares about the history of the competition of the “hardest” song on guitar hero. so well done
Thanks, man. That means so much. I have another one in the works that will hopefully be done in a few weeks. Glad you enjoyed it.
Etienne Sorry I haven’t been responding on discord. It’s slowly becoming a worse place to get ahold of me. Come 2019 it may clear up a bit but I hope you understand lmao
@@acai28 It's cool, man. I completely understand haha.
I love you, Brown Man
Imagine the nerfs...
Very good video!
Thanks, man. Means a lot!
Hey dad
Ukog daddy
TTFAF 100% speed FC note shuffle?
*I DONT HAVE FIVE FINGERS*
Hey, just wanted to say, I'm Chris Vance, the SH Community Member and Guitar Hero Dev responsible for this... gem. hah. I'm so happy to still see that even more than 10+ years later people still love and talk about our work we did on this game. Great video, I loved watching it and thanks so much for the trip through this blast from the past!
Chris Vance glad that the RUclips algorithm connected us in a strange, crazy and cool way. What an incredible ride... white explorer forver
GH3 is the best rhythm game of all time in my opinion. Your work has had a tremendous impact on my life and got me interested in music. Thank you
Thank you for being a part of this magical game. Without you and your team, I wouldn't be nearly as into music as I am now.
I still love playing TTFAF to this day. It's a classic, and it remains fun. Thanks for your awesome work.
Thank you for your contribution to video game history.
You also inspired me to make charts at one point. I sadly have lost interest in it in favor of playing real instruments, but this contribution helped me further boost my love for metal, and music as a whole, and I sincerely thank you for this.
1000% earned this sub. Glad to see the old GH community seen in a good light :)
Yoooo thanks, dude! There's more to come.
It was honestly probably the only time the community was actually good lol. :P
@@TextureOfCouch meh
@@kawaiwatermelon well meh to you too. (._. )
Perfect comment, dude!
Remember the old times? Fredd playing yyz and 2 weird dudes playing iron man!
Hahaha
reminds me of a summoning salt video but its still a very good video
That's the point
Even down to the voice... the tone, rhythm, sound... summoning salt videos rock too
Yeah, its inspiration.
Perhaps a little too similar, but idk
@@alansmithee419 Just give me more of this kind of content. Same or not, just more.
@@mikillatja not saying it gets boring or anything like that, just don't know if this would constitute as stealing. Probably not, it is just a video format. He has made a separate aim for the videos. I'm not a lawyer, idk what I'm talking about, but there you go.
And yes, I agree. MORE!
I like the video format. it’s kind of like summoning salt’s “world record progression” videos but for rhythm games haha
Josh Ortiga I agree bro
OMG AGAIN HOLY shoot
This is so insanely well made!
Thanks, man! Appreciate it a ton!
Holy shit you're the reason I started playing gh3 again shout out to tobegh3 love the man
Tobe, the first to beat guitarherophenom.
Wat a legend
btw this video is absolutely top notch, but you should've mentioned randy's 998k
Thanks, homie.
And yeah, I wasn't sure whether to include it or not just because there wasn't necessarily any competition for it I guess? I had to cut out some other things too since they didn't quite fit the narrative super well imo but I can definitely see how it could fit.
@@EtienneYT and he got 1 mil a month ago
@@Mike7906-fj8gc One could argue that doesn't count, because that was in Clone Hero after an update that increased the sustain scoring. It now matches the GH3 engine, BUT the CH engine also allows you to collect Star Power while SP is activated, which isn't possible in GH3. Because of this, it's possible to gain more SP in CH and maintain a higher average multiplier.
Randy just broke the 1kk points mark!!
Arora borealis? at this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the internet, localized entirely within your comments
And now Randy's got 1 million points and a tech FC at 175%...Honestly though this video is awesome, thank you for making this journey.
and now 165% speed fc. wtf
now a 100% os on 175% speed
@@KieranDurand now a 200% speed with -21
I've been waiting for a channel like this in the gh community, I've been considering it myself, but glad there is one!
When I saw the first chris vid I immediately recognized the living room. Its the one from that famous ttfaf guiness world record video lol.
Of course! It's also home to many of his viral videos back with ebaumsworld was around haha.
I used to play GH3 many years ago. I remember playing online once and I came up against a guy that had the second highest score on TTFAF GH3 on the 360 at the time (I don't remember the guys name but I just remember recognising his name as having the second highest score on TTFAF at the time). I decided to put TTFAF on just to see him play. Needless to say, he smoked me.
I've got to buy chinpokomon, I've got to buy it, I've got to buy it!
Slow ride on easy score progression?
No because all the 100 FC are fake
f r e e s h I fcd it
@@josefsteiner9163 lies
How? The closest someone has gotten is 1 note?
I would rather see a minimum score progression. I forget, could you fail on Easy?
ah, the good old days, when you could randomly post a score and everyone just believed you
Speedrunning used to work like that too huh 🤔
Actually, because of the camera angle, I highly questioned Chris's FC when I first saw it on RUclips.
Texture Of Couch honestly I would too it doesn’t even look like his hand is moving to hit the frets from that weird angle
What a phenominal video. Blown away by the content lately. At the beginning I saw the time I was like... okay I guess I'll watch a bit. Then it was over before I knew it. Love it.
As someone who was a very common visitor in the ScoreHero community these videos bring so much back. I was active during this exact time.
This reminds me a lot of Summoning Salt's videos. Long, in-depth, entertaining, and well-made. Great video!
My name pops up at 31:37 in his chat. It was amazing to witness such incredible history in the making in that stream. I was jaw-dropped for the whole ending.
Thank you for making this video. Even though Flames is a shit song to us now, such incredible history with this game series needs to be kept chronicled.
Also Helicopter by Bloc Party at 9:50!! One of my favorite songs from guitar hero 3, v happy to see it represented here
edit: reptilia right after? Strokes are my fav band this is such an amazing video
new "boss" songs
freedom dive - literally every rhythm game its in
ascension dt - osumania
everlasting message - sound voltex
vacuum cleaner d - pump it up
sadistic music factory - project diva
soulless 5 - clone hero
Soulless 4 will always be better than Soulless 5. Other than that, totally yes.
Lol, well RIP the Soulless series
Megalodon is the main song of clone hero now, soulless series is dead
Freedom dive is hatred in all rhythm games ya know.
@QwertyDash nah
I wish this vid was made after Randy got a 1 million points and his tech FC at 175%
And now a -6 on invisible notes at 150
And now?
@@SuperTtKiller no strum fc
@@thevioletwild nice
randy's 1m doesn't count, different engine makes it possible whereas max score on TTFAF on GH3 is around 991k.
I feel like you're really glossing over Phenom. His run of dominance was incredible and he put together a ton of techniques that hadn't been seen before.
Yeah I would agree with this. Ghp completely pushed the boundaries of what people thought was possible in this game during his time. I don't think he gets respect from people who know the game because he got too much respect from who don't know the game.
@@johnsavage3586 no, it's cuz his dad was an ass and shat on anyone that could have possibly beaten Danny.
Robert Taylor his dad seems like a bit of a pompous baby, but let’s be honest, no one can beat denny godson
i thought the same, im a huge fan of rythm games in general and the dude running this channel never mentions GHP, it´s like he doesn´t exist for him. hes definitely one of the top players of all time and his fcs back in 2008 where insane (he was just a kid in this era 13 i believe wich gives him even more merit). i remember him fontly i don´t get why he gets so much hate, maybe because he is wealthy idk.
@@Cristofopo I think he received hate because of his attitude. While he FCed incredible songs, he was always quiet, no celebration, even with some sort of cocky vibes. Or at least thats what i thought back in the day.
Just stumbled upon this and I'm so fucking happy
People need to know the massive history and community behind Guitar Hero
Amazing video
score progression of the soulless series?
In The Court Of The Crimson Kang
Done :)
Knew I was in for a treat when you mentioned Warlord @4:28
I doubt many players today even know about Warlord, or some of the methods jnukes contributed for the FC.
I remember logging into XBL late at night to see if I was getting trolled in ScoreHero's IRC chat and there it was, 987k. If you ever do another series for an on-disc song, check with the Starpower Podcasts if they're archived somewhere. I believe ToyMasheen ran them back then, so he might still have them. Chris talked about how he practiced TTFAF (gruelingly taking every single section into practice mode and going through Slowest/Slower/Slow/etc) at some point.
Amazing video dude, thanks for this. Huge trip down memory lane
This is probably the best video I've accidentally stumbled on. I remember sitting down and watching the OG iamchris FC with that giant TV and amazing video quality of the time. It was insane when it happened.
Amazing job documenting the history of a song that has become synonymous with rhythm games and probably also the bane of anyone playing GH at a party or event.
> Talks about TTFAF hard parts
> Skips intro
Intro is ez lul
Lolwutman6 wrong
@@Acularis But it is easy....
@@johnsavage3586 wrong
@@coolguy02536 The intro is very easy. I can 100% the intro every time and I'm only barely even good enough to 5 star the song.
From a Guitar Hero legend to a DDR champion and rhythm games pro. Chris is such a beast!
I just watched both of your videos back to back of Soulless 4 and this one. Dang these are really hype and so perfectly made. I hope you make more in the future. Maybe one for Jordan? Or even the long reign of GuitarHeroPhenom...
I spent most of my middle school and high school days on scorehero just in amazement at what people could do with the game that took over my life. ES942s Institutionalized FC and Micros Jordan tapping video were just next level insane to me. ES942 Krimsunmunkeys k3v227 HellAshes Popemobile and Iamchris4life are names that ill never forget, these dudes are legends in my mind. Awesome video!
I think if Randy FCs this blindfolded on 150%, nothing else can ever top that.
Cannot thank you enough for making these kinds of videos... consistently fall into a Etienne Score Progression and/or history videos and it is genuinely the best stuff I've seen on here, glued to the screen for 40 minutes :D
How am I only just seeing this?
What an amazing video.. from Chris's journey right to today's accomplishments..
People postulating that it would take a decade to be done... and after 10 years of near-constant practice, I managed to do it.
To think that it got FC'd after GH3 itself being out for 7 fucking months and GH in general 3 years... ridiculous. I wish I had started playing a couple years earlier and was part of that legendary community back then. Genuinely emotional.
Thank you for this. Gives so much insight to just how iconic this song is and the impact it's had on the community 13 years down the line.
This is LITTARALY what I’ve been Craving ever since I started watching summoning salt’s videos on speed run progression
Glad I found this video, thanks for the trip down memory lane.
Wish you'd taken a couple minutes to cover the differences between the various official charts, RB3, RB4, and GH:SH all have minute variations that make them all uniquely challenging, and the Full Band FC in RB3 is just complete lunacy.
Covering just the one chart in the one game barely scratches the surface of the insane feats people have achieved on this song, though I will admit, as the most popular chart with the most hacks done to it, this video does cover a lot of them. But I'd love to see an update to goes even deeper.
Hearing the clicking of the guitar controllers with a camera on a coffee table really takes me back to the old days of RUclips, lol. Wonderful video!
This is still my last song for the FGFC. I haven't played in over 4 years and my time with it has passed, but I still enjoy watching others play it.
Chris left a legacy, despite barely playing at all past 2008. Other than a few noteworthy squeezers, ScoreHero is nothing but a memory now.
What i find absolutely mind boggling is the fact that as a kid, when the game was still full circle, i was showing my friends 85-92%ish pictures, never did i know that if i were to upload it to the internet i would be on those lists, kinda crazy that i only ever practiced this song repeatedly for my entertainment less than others. nowadays, anything goes as long as you get on the scoreboard.
Imagine showing Randy's blindfolded FC to these people in the forums, they would flip their shit
And today randy got a 99% on 175%
Love this video would love to see more!
watching the score progression playlist and i love how two of the songs on here are exilelord songs.
The (almost) invisible FC is insane.
Wow, this is mind blowing. I had no idea the song had been pushed this far! TTFAF will always have a special place in my heart.
Really enjoy these new type of videos. would be sick to see a IIDX or popn video, i think they have super interesting history in various departments. cheers
Sadly its not as big as ddr
Man, I was there when this happened. I wasn't anyone special on SH back in the day. But I was an Expert player and I mostly focused on Rock Band at the time. But when this happened, it literally shook everyone on the forums. It was like witnessing the dawn of a new era. After TTFAF, it was like the level of play just... elevated. It's hard to explain. I tried my best to keep up, but my I felt like my skills weren't up to snuff, so I wound up abandoning the site and both GH and RB entirely. Crazy how this FC still stands even today.
i agree with most others here. started playing in 07 and still remember the ustream days watching all those dudes go at it. amazing video.
Absolutely loved it. This style of video showcasing the ridiculously hard feats these people manage to get is beautiful.
All the feels with this video. I miss the 2007 Guitar Hero days. Some of the most fun times in my gaming life!
This reminds of a SummoningSalt video! Such a well made video man keep up the good work. I’m sure Salt would be proud :))
I remember all the dickheads in that frontpage reddit thread downplaying Randy's achievement. Bugged me more than it should have. Thanks so much for creating this video to fully showcase how awesome these achievements are!
Did they say he had no life?
@@railenherman6482 Yeah, all the usual "play a real guitar," claiming it's fake, claiming it's not that hard to do, etc. Usual childish BS you see when something goes mainstream.
the Harvard Yard "I feel something disturbing in the force. It's called jealousy."-GCN
idk what i'm more impressed at; the blindfolded FC or keeping the same beanie the entire time
wow. just wow. this video is simply amazing. i have been playing guitar hero since 2005 and this makes me so proud to love this game and community. good work. i might go pledge to your patreon
"Chris was the first ever to get the MFC"
*shows vid that shows Fungah having MFC'd it first*
Also 9:53 nice Konmai number
Dang, this brings me back. I remember when ScoreHero exploded (so to speak) after that TTFAF FC :D
I appreciate you using Rush as background music. How did you get instrumental versions like Red Barchetta?
He probably ripped the audio files from the DLC of the song on GH or RB. All the instruments (including vocals) have their own isolated sound file. Also, Rush is popular, so you could probably find a good karaoke version of it on RUclips and download it from there.
Very well done. This video got me geeked out because I was there on scorehero when Chris was making his progress. I participated in debates on whether it was possible to FC. My high score on this song is 754k, which I’m humbled to know at one point would’ve gotten me some attention.
Randy was also able to FC this song one-handed, and I find it interesting that Chris was able to get expert FCed before the hard chart had even been FCed.
I need to write my thesis. Instead I watched a 40 minute video on Trough the fire and flames.
after over 10 years of playing guitar hero 3, i still download it every now and again (clone hero these days) and it never gets boring and i've noticed that even if i go a year without playing it, i still retain 90% of my skill. somethin about this game mane.
Hi I'm from the future. Borealis FC 175 in a few years. In April. Gg peace
if you're right i will literally drink water
if your right I will literally breathe
Remember watching iamchris4lifes FC video many many years ago... damn. SO much nostalgia in this vid. Amazing job dude!
Grate video, sub for sure, I love it.
I never played guitar hero and have no idea how hard this exactly is, since I don't know how gh controls, but dedication and skill of these people is just insane. It always amazes me how much someone can do if he truly loves what he is doing, even if it's kinda pointless after all
In memorian of the PILLARS of the guitar hero comunity!
13Nerd, Hellashes, jnukes, k3v227, Ukogmonkey, JamesLikecoulter, jpriest, beberle, Freddie Wong, TipperQueen & JZ
GuitarHeroPhenom - the VERY FIRST
unbeatable player
TobeGH3 and Ggamerman - the VERY FIRST to beat the
unbeatable
One of the few videos I actually sat down and watched pls make more
I kinda wish you mentioned the short Rock Band saga as well (with RB's different hit engine and whatnot, an FC on that game was also quite challenging) but great video nonetheless!
It wasn't near as interesting, with Jprez being pretty much the only person going for it and not taking too long to get it.
I'd watch literally any number of videos like this. I'd love to see something like Jordan done :D
I was religiously on Score Hero at that time...this brings back memories.
Totally unrelated to the video, but when you mentioned Herman Lee, it made me think of this. Twitch's DMCA has gotten so bad, that Herman Lee himself was temporarily banned from Twitch for playing his own music. Wtf am I right? Anyway, another great video. I really appreciate you keeping rhythm games alive. I've done what I could in the past on stepmania, but I'm getting old and the young ones like you have to take over lol. Thank you for what you do.
Guitar Hero III was a huge part of my teenage years. 85% was my top score and I am proud of it. Now I am a Pump It Up player in the verge of retirement so hopefully this will be a place were to reconnect with my youthful years in the future. Subscribed ;)
That score hero video of ttfaf is what for me fascinated with this game
It took me 20 minutes to understand that FC is full combo
Clone hero has broken the barrier so much that these days through the fire and the flames seems so easy
I enjoyed this video so much that it felt short as fuck. Simply amazing the way that GH community evolved.
I havnt played guitar hero in about 10 years and this video has made me want to play it again, great video didnt seem like 40 min at all love it.
It has always blown my mind that Through The Fire and Flames got FCed before One did.
Man I don't even know much about guitar hero or playing it, but goddamned is this a fun and informative video to watch.
I love how in the intro he talks about how the creators specifically made this song to be almost impossible while showing footage of randy hitting almost every not with 0 facial expression it’s hilarious
A similar video about the Beat Saber community would be fun in the future! Don't know if we could agree on what song is the true "hardest song" in the hearts of most people!
GHOST
you made it incredibly entertaining. just like summoning salt and the guy that makes super mario sunshine long wr progressions
I really wish I was as good as I am now back in 2007. Now somebody gets 900k+ on flames and they laugh at you for not being able to get 99% on soulless 4
They'd laugh at you for not being able to FC Soulless 4 now haha
Amazing how far live streaming has come since those days
23:32 just recognized the song playing in the background. I Am Shimmer by Giraffes? Giraffes! - great pick 😍
I don’t know why this was recommended to me, but I’m so glad it was.
Late, but really fucking love this dive through history!
For some reason I got the chills when you introduced the Saga of Randy lol legend
I bought this game the day of release and i remember seeing how chris owned this song for so many years
when i loaded up the video i thought "40 mins, i'm not watching this, surely it's could be edited down". however turns out it held my interest for the full running time.
i love how chris became the best ddr player of all time
Great video man :) I had so much fun watching it. I went through nostalgia on another level.
You got yourself a sub friend. Awesome video. This will eventually have over 100,000 views, mark my words...
I TOLD YOU SO
Incredible video! So much fun to look back on the history of this song/game :D
the first people to ever fc through the fire and flames anywhere is dragonforce because they’re the ones who recorded & released the song flawlessly with no errors, including that first guitar solo
edit: june 4th is my birthday wtf
My birthday is June 5th!
This video is so good. Thank you for taking the time to make this!
Chris is very impressive. If you had taken a video of me playing it, you would have had to use the entire video of all the notes I missed.
Why did you have to give me this amazing nostalgic trip also great video man keep it up
So many memories of GH3 and this song. Great work man :)
Woah....you're not dead?!
@@snipen2450 Fortunately not!
Man I can't believe that the Chris video had so much significance
You have the perfect voice for these kind of vids
I like how when talking about pros in Guitar Hero, they always put Randy in the video somewhere
this is the story of how the fire in through the fire and flames was lighted
Anyone else rewatching this over and over