Who calls the shots? The CEO and coach in the firing line at the Wests Tigers | NRL 360 | Fox League
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- The NRL 360 team debated where the fault really lies at the winless Wests Tigers, after a heavy defeat at the hands of Brisbane.
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It’s beyond belief how brooks has escaped proper criticism for so long. He’s not a has been, he’s a never was been!
They have 3 "home grounds" - Leichhardt, Parramatta and Campbelltown and a centre of Excellence? at Concord.
Pick one home ground and play all your home matches there. I would suggest Campbelltown since that is an area with lots of junior players who may be inspired to play for the Tigers in the future.
Maybe 2, yes def Campbelltown for the juniors but also Leichhardt stadium for those loyal fan base, scrap parra for the eels
Good idea but the inner west is mainly tigs
Letting Hastings go is what is called “an own goal”.
That’s because Pascoe is on ice
To get Bateman? Hastings wanted Brooks position? The list of players let go by the weststigers, for whatever reason, who went on to be top line players is long. The bye is more competitive.
Pascoe and Brooks are THE ONES that need to go immediately
Couldn’t agree more. I think the ENTIRE squad needs to be given the flick. I’ve seen better performances from schoolboy sides.
@@gerardroll6468 they have potential, with new signings Bateman is good, he was awesome for us in 2019 but someone has to wake up Brooks does not belong in NRL stadiums who the hell signed him up to begin with
Sorry but Sheens has to go to. Players mentalities have changed since the last time he coached. Social media and a soft mentality at the Tigers needs a coach who can connect with this lot. Also not playing Dane Laurie is on Sheens!!
@@garybaltiejus7248 … Put simply, the guy is NOT up to NRL standard & needs a long stint in the lower grades. SURELY there’s another half in the club (somewhere) that could at least HAVE A GO & come up with better last tackle options than Brooks who does the same thing… EVERY DAMN TIME 😖👎
Lmao 🤣 10 years too late budd
Just like the Dragons, a split board can't work
Goes to show how important it is to have a football manager at your club. A CEO and Board's job is to make sure the financial aspect of the club is running right and support the football department, not run it.
The Bulldogs turnaround has been massively due to Gould.
Have the bulldogs turned around? What are we three games in.
@@shauntaylor9503 compared to the last 3 years bulldogs are definitely on the up. Tigers are going backwards. Thats the problem
Buzz is that old guy on the bus, who argues with the bus driver because he wants to pay in coins.
😂😂😂😂love it
👍
More like a cheque
Gotta luv Buzz when he starts rambling on about something that has no relevance to the topic of conversation amongst the other panelists. 😅😅
I think Luke brooks needs to be on more money to be more motivated and extend until 2030 😅 problem solved
You could be charged for murdering the club
That is unequivocally THE BEST & most humorous response I could have read… I wonder if a jury would let him off on a murder classed as a crime of passion???
Luke brooks has been taking advantage of the tigers because he knows he doesn't need to put much effort except to show up for 80 minutes get get 1.1 million, I swear Luke brooks better start buying real estate or something because he needs to find another source of income some where else.
@@buckets6497 Brooks is the player you want to get caught on the nose beers in the dunnies
I agree with Buzz (first time for everything), Pascoe is being attacked for on field results, but he separates himself from this section of the club and has left it up to the coaches, both Cleary and Sheens have made terrible recruitment/retention decisions (Cleary possibly purposeful sabotage imo). The part of the club Pascoe is managing is succeeding.
Isn't there a perfect solution right now? Dolphins are down 3 halves and have a coach that can turn players around better than most. Tigers have a half that supposedly has potential, but has never blossomed. Whether it be him or the club.
No brainer if the deal could be struck. Even loan him to the dolphins if the cover pay?
Pascoe also has his own podcast called "Ask The Boss". The whole thing is strange.
A snake injects its venom from it's fangs . A coach can only do so much.
Everything starts and ends at the head office..
Ok, so if you sack tim sheens then what next? Did the NRL journos not expect this exceedingly pedestrian team to get whipped? Like Gus said, the Tigers need to decide a plan and stick to it. If you go to the trouble of bringing back Tim Sheens to mentor essentially the entire club precisely because they're a basket case, then why the hell would you sack Tim sheens after four games because he couldn't do a miracle job on a basket case? This is how the tigers have been going around in circles chasing their tail since they sacked sheens the first time around.
You only pay people on current performance value.
Wests are living in a by gone era day dream land while the rest of the competition got their fundamentals right & offered players who were pulling their weight what they actually deserved.
I’m not a tigers fans but I’ve got mates that are tigers fans that seriously can’t stand supporting the Tigers that they’re thinking on not even watching and supporting the nrl anymore
blaming ivan just goes to show how out of touch these tosses are
Why is Farrar there?
Players need to take responsibility for not winning.
They get paid the same win or lose! First mistake of any professional sports contract.
@@multioptioned my point exactly. Coach is not the one passing the football.
Sydney has to many teams. Time for the NRL to act. Piss them off. They couldn't compete in the local pub comp.
How Pascoe holds onto his job defies all reasoning.
The guy just is not up to it and it has filtered right through the club.
Buzz doing a whole lot of back peddling about that lunch!💯😆
The tigers need to be culled out of the comp. They have no identity, claiming Leichardt, training Concorde, they've dumped Campbelltown.
They've supposed to represent the Macarthur district, not Wokeville. Bring back the Magpies.
Maybe add South at the start of their name. Make them South West Tigers. Base them in Campbelltown.
wOkeViLlE. So triggered. ❄️❄️❄️❄️❄️
Also Richville
This is from their official website regarding any names changes, "The Wests Tigers NRL Name/Brand and Logo are controlled trademarks of the ARL Commission,
hence they CANNOT be re-named or altered by WSDRLFC".
@@RugbyLeagueHistory the name is not the issue, a simple mascot swap is easy enough. There is a magpie on their uniform, after all.
The issue is, they've abandoned a massive junior groth area for a hipster area, that's not generally interested in league.
The issue is, is it Wests Tigers, or Balmain Tigers?
@@bodgiesteve8849 The centre of excellence is at Concord Oval where they have always trained, it should have been built at Campbelltown. The issue isn't Balmain at all, they have one board member who cannot really do anything, Western Suburbs and Wests Ashfield took over and have paid or are paying off the debts for Balmain Leagues Club.
Balmain still have the junior teams and that's about it. For the first 10 or so years of the merger, Balmain had all the power and the money, I remember once Tim Sheens said "I won't pick any players from the Western Suburbs NSW Cup team, only Balmain". Now it's the other way around, Wests have all the power and money.
Balmain historically were a very successful club, it's not their fault where the club is at, it's about the people in charge currently, I remember Jack Gibson said "A good club starts at the front office" or something like that. We've seen it at Canterbury when they were doing poorly, Parramatta etc, once they both got in the right people, results have or are changing.
Recruitment not a current problem. What about Klemmer another shocking signing
Klemmer wouldn't run out of site on a dark night 😅😅
The NRL needs to 'grow a set' and start removing these perennial under achievers in Sydney. Relocate the team or expunge them.
They add no value to the League.
They just don't have the cattle. They don't have the cattle because no-one wants to play for a dud club. How many tackles has the CEO missed?
Luke Brooks is like a pokie machine for the tigers!! Let's keep putting money in!! It's got to pay😂😂
Not wrong
Haha
Tigers fan here, that is golden!
Great joke, and it's sadly true 😢
Starts at the top, they’ve been through how many coaches, how many new rosters and nothings changed 🤷🏾♂️
THE PLAYERS!!!
In 12 years they have had many World Class coaches. For Zero results
What makes those signings even more bizarre is that Tyrone Peachey & Ken Maumalo were two of their captains last year. Such a shambles
Wests Tigers need Anthony Milford in the halves with Luke Brooks. Pay him $1m and they are good to go
Brooks as been there to long,without a half that creates chances your a ship without a rudder...
The best thing about the Tigers is the Blond in Box with Benji and all the clowns.Tigers are going from being bad to the worst for years and its not going to get to better at all paying top prices to get players and those players are not even performing that says it all may as well get local grade players they would do better.The club need to be green lit.
We should have never let go of Hastings , he gave the team hope spirit
He wanted Brooks position and had to cut costs to sign Bateman....great decision? 🤔
Another year and still the same rubbish form FOX. Parra has issues Raiders have issues, Cowboys have issues yet it's still all about the Wests Tigers. Its will take time they are rebuilding and just because you buy a few quality players does not automatically fix things. Luke Brooks is badly out of form but he is not the only issue. Lets not forget he was Daley M Half of the year 5 years ago but he needs players around him.
I will add to that, Canberra have a 29-year premiership drought, almost 30 years, yet nobody in the media mentions it. They only ever mention Parramatta's drought.
how the hell is ivan cleary still being mentioned in this?
it is 5 yrs since he was at the place
at what point are the tigers going to take accountability themselves
hes not involved but he ruined the clubs only talent at the time although he got us super close to finals he also fucked us out of heaps of talent for average players with "potential"
West Tigers dont even deserve the 2 points from the bye if they haven't won a game before the bye
I'm a fan of tigers, and your so right.
Fold the club in all honesty, got me stressing over nothing
Not one mention of Benji or Farrah?
Tigers have been failing since Pascoe became CEO. The current board are not helpful either. It's a club culture thing and bad policies. They have had some great players that have gone elsewhere and found their form again. Look at Norfoluma, temporarily went to storm and was brilliant, goes back to Tigers and failing. Successful players have come in this year and they are failing now as well. Some great coaches as well who have failed. So there has to be some common denominator. Yes Brooks needs to go but so does Douei, the CEO and the board also needs a shake up along with their policies. Hard decisions need to be made or Sheens and Benji are going to end up on the scrap heap like McGuire and others with stains on their good names.
Tigers need a better captain they need a better 6 and 7 and fullback those 3
I've never met Pascoe,
but anyone prepared to get out of the office and help set up training drills is ok by me.
But...
In the changing room that is the coach's office,
when he/she speaks,
All listen.
Brooks,
is out there every week,
taking hits on and off the field.
Do I feel sorry for him?
no,
but...
do I think he is overpaid?
no.
The media have job to do,
fact-checking and wading threw massive amounts of poop,
to report on the game,
and I look forward to hearing about it.
But...
Giving opinions on the other hand is like,
well,
it's like,
this comment.
A chance to voice my support or dismay at a...
matter/issue and/or topic.
Kent is right the Tigers don't know what a winning football team looks like.
To be fair their new logo is great 😂
Yes havent been great at gettin talent n keepin it. Clubs got issues players dont wana stay.
They had their guy in Ivan... then were close to getting Ciraldo before the rug got pulled. Pascoe with a bit of luck would've got the ship facing north. Everyone wants them to do well... just a matter of time.
I appreciate your good thoughts, it's getting hard mate.
Oiii did they loose Hastings Jacksons??? The spark of the team last year..
Buzz is becoming almost unwatchable there surely has to be someone else you can bring onto this show
ive supported the tigers for 40 +years - its getting harder and harder these days ,the ANZAC jersey fiasco just compounds this - im left scratching my head
No backline
How rich for Paul to say Buzz is protecting his friend when he was about to burst a blood vessel 2 mins ago raging at the panthers to defend his good mate Ricky
Need more Gareth Ellis's
Rare Paul Kent W
Brooks should be playing good footy under the guide of Benji Marshall, and who's decision was it to put douhi at full back he's a number 6 combination with Brooks, it's an ameture decision upon Sheen's and Marshall, Benji's been coaching for 5 minutes and I think he's got a clown attitude
Brookes should stand down please do it for the fans
Well they are talking to George Williams, they should also be talking to Luke Thompson & others
1. Adam Doueihi
2. Charlie Stains
3. Zak Hardaker (sign)
4. Starford To'a
5. Joe Burgess (sign)
6. Brandon Wakeham
7. George Williams (sign)
8. David Klemmer
9. Apisai Koroisau
10. Luke Thompson (sign)
11. Morgan Knowles (sign)
12. John Bateman
13. Isaiah Papali’i
14. Dane Lauire
15. Alex Twal
16. Shawn Blore
17. Stefano Utoikamanu
18. Joe Ofahengaue
Adam doueihi at full back 🤣
George Williams and his Mrs get homesick too much. Leave him in the UK.
@@tracimckinstry8741 that was an excuse to get away from Rick
@@David-gv1sw he was fullback for the bunnies and did well
@@seanbuchanan5402 you get English players to bring pride
I really don't think Madge was the problem and the current team is going out of their way to prove me right. He must feel very vindicated right now.
He was a legend for real tiger supporters, miss him a lot
Should of stayed as the magpies and the tigers never amalgamated, l feel for there fans
The old and the New Pacific Highway.
How your passport were created.?
Lots of hot air in this clip and the comments section. Finding who to blame doesnt fix anything because the only solution they have is to sack someone or ...everyone. Unfortunately you can sack the whole club - brookes, sheens, benji, pascoe, klemmer, cleary ... and it will still be a basket case. Just don't sack the hot blonde in the coaching box ....seems to be their only upside
Whos the fossil in the back right corner?
Buzz Rothfield, the biggest journo worm in the NRL
Phil Rothfield, nobody likes him.
Why is Ricky Stuart still at raiders?
Nobody wants to live and coach in Canberra.
All the other coaches say its too cold in Canberra 😅
I'm a sharks supporter I wreckon offer Brayden trindall a starting roll as a 7 for 450k for 12 months piss off Luke brooks
If Brayden trindall performs consistently which I know he will that'd give some room for potentially signing other plauers and freeing up some salary cap - after the 12 months offer him a 3 year deal
2005 is the cause, all of this living in the past using old lucky techniques not suitable for todays game. Buzz is right.
The Tigers club went broke, morethana few years ago. How, and when did they take over the Magpies board?
Why has the Macarthur region been abandoned? And why do 'you' media ignore this?
Nothing to see here.
On their official website is says the board is made up of, 4 from the Wests Magpies Pty Ltd (Holman Barnes Group - Formerly known as Wests Ashfield Leagues club Group)
- 1 from the Wests Magpies Pty Ltd (WSDRLFC)
- 1 from the Balmain Football Club
- 2 Independent members.
New host?
Nah Dane Ginnane just fills in for Braith Anasta every now and then
Shalom tigers
I agree I'm a shark supporter of 54 years I think that Luke Brooks need to go elsewhere he is a good little half but he is stale there and I do think pierse would help even brooks at 5/8 and hey supporters of any club don't listen to Kent he wouldn't know a football to an a hole
Team can be fixed with ease
1.laurie
2.staines
3.talau
4.naden
5.israel ogden
6.wakeham
7.kade hill
8.klemmer
9.korisau
10.pole
11.papalii
12.bateman
13.matamua
14.douehi
15.stefano
16.twal
17.Joe ofa
18. Luke brooks
@Tre Vor he’s one of the best defenders in the NRL has like a 98 percent tackle Effiency and gains like 90 metres a game he does his job although he doesn’t score
This is all Benji Marshall. He needs to go
How is Benji Marshall a qualified NRL coach? No way.
In my opinion there roster is an easy fix
1. Staines
2. Tupou
3. Talau
4. Bateman
5. Naden
6. Doueihi
7. Wakeham
8. Pole
9. Koroisau
10. Klemmer
11. Seyfarth
12. Blore
13. Papalii
14. Brooks
15. Twal
16. Ofahengaue
17. Toa
18. Nofoluma
19. Simpkins
I don't mind this, but Bateman is no centre, and Brooks should be swapped for Laurie if he doesn't perform the first few games at 14.
@@ragedmachine Bateman has played centre for England 12 times an in club footy 35 times ! Why isn’t he a centre ? He’s played a World Cup final and a challenge cup at centre
Lol shows how much you know dipshit
I've been a member for 12 years, I'm starting to question been a fan of this team.
I jokingly say "fold" the club, and it hurts to say it but I don't know where to put my anger.
I'll follow the club till the day I die, but I won't be watching the Easter Monday game
Get rid of brooks, get a new ceo, tell sheens he needs to see results fast or it’s goodbye . Flanagan or hasler to the tigers, I’m sure Flanagan sr can get a lot out of his son too who is off contract
tiger's are on the verge of closing down or a name change within 3 years & add to that viginal mulitaro was a dihoria mouth drongo against the warriors 😂🤣😂