From what I’ve read everyone has different reactions, some can rapid taper some cannot and need to taper on a slow scale. Is the medical profession just concerned with liability than patient health? I’d love to hear from a practicing doctor if this is the case post pandemic or there’s shortages of staff so there’s no time for research and trying new treatment plans?
I think that doctors need to go to some specialization , re - education just regarding benzo and antidepressants withdrawal. Great damage can be done to patients trying to taper off. For example I asked 3 doctors how would they taper somebody from benzos or antidepressants whatever, their answer was max 3 weeks home schedule or same duration in hospital. I was astonished at how their arrogance is enormous. How many % Drs are aware of this what are you talking about? Who is going trough massive amount of information and videos available now on internet to educate themselves about this issues? Nobody. That's really sad.
The practice of ripping patients off benzodiazepines and putting them on antipsychotics is rampant in assisted living and skilled nursing facilities. I didn’t even introduce an antipsychotic during my withdrawal and developed tardive neurological issues. Since I’ve come off the benzodiazepine (Klonopin) I am intolerant to nearly all pharmaceuticals. If they’d introduced an antipsychotic for sleep, I’d probably be dead. I want to know how many times this practice has gone wrong in these facilities. The 70 year old brain is even less forgiving. I imagine this practice has caused a horrible death for many.
My ex was put on benzoes, antidepressants, antipsychotics, and meds for epilepsy. In the meantime, his cancer (in the root of the tongue that metastasized to vocal chords, tonsil, and lymph nodes) and hepatitis C progressed undetected and undisturbed! Ah, yes, he was also mourning his mother.
Yeah, I was on vali*m for 7 years and some idiot tried to take me off in one week because that's what the the manufacturer said. I was inpatient and when they saw what it did, to me, I told them to use the Ashton manual. These were psychiatrists. They were clueless. I reinstated and tapered correctly for the the next 2 and half years. It was brutal but I was able to do it. I refused to go on Seroquel. Face it. Some doctors don't believe their patients, they don't listen and they don't care.
AGREED. It’s bad when we patients have to do so much research we have to find out how the dr.s were educated to see if they were taught the proper material!
@@josephsailo7555 You don't know what you are talking about. I was on it for trigeminal neuralgia. The most painful condition known to man. I had a neurologist who prescribed it. I absolutely needed it for pain (along with a few other drugs) until I got brain surgery. When I wanted to come off of it, when it was no longer needed, was when the psychiatrist stepped in and almost killed me. My "action" was trying to come off of it. If they had tapered me, like they should have, it wouldn't have almost destroyed my life. Luckily, I found a fantastic NP who let me taper over years and was supportive and I recovered. I never would have gone on it if it wasn't absolutely necessary. However it really doesn't matter why someone is on a benzo. The doctors who are the ones who prescribe them don't know anything about them.
This is the only medication that really help me and the dr refused to give it to me im really going to a bad time right now i lost my job my family is not supporting me i can’t even sleep sometimes I get sooo sick i think im going to pass away i get shortness of breast and start shaking my heart start raising basically im going to a ruff time and people think im lying or something i really don’t know what to do 😢
JUST NOW?! Patients have complained about this for decades. Psychiatry should be ashamed about the fact that they’ve gaslit and ignored patients about this for so long. My wife went cold Turkey off alprazolam after we lost health insurance in 2008 she’s had brain zaps ever since.
Yep. I was part of training doctors to taper safely here in the uk and they over re acted, and put nothing in place for those they are not medicating now or pulling off meds too fast
@@acelarson1872 the question is why should i get off? my brother is a doctor and i get the prescription from him. i will just take it for the rest of my life. but iam sorry that you have this bad withdrawal symptoms...i really dont understand why psychiatrists or doctors even try to get elderly people 70+ off benzos when they took them for decades. makes zero sense to me but thats our wierd system. just let them take their medication untill they die i dont understand whats the problem. somone that takes medication for diabetes or high blood pressure or whatever you dont tell them randomly oh sir you should stop to take your insuline now we think its bad for you... 🤔 but alcohol, the worst drug ever you can still buy around every corner.
My doctor tried to put me on Seroquel at the beginning of an extremely fast benzo taper. I refused to take it, he dismissed me after 25 years!!!I actually wound up in the hospital, frantic, because I couldn’t find another doctor willing to take on a “benzo patient “. This was four years ago and I’m still tapering.
That is sadistic. I am sorry. They drive people to buy on the street,so then they have blood on their hands. "Do no harm" my... Benzos save lives. Period. Other meds takes lives. Enough of the hysteria and witch hunt.
That's usually the result- dismiss you. 99% of doctors don't like patient led because they r not in complete control. If they can't solve the problem in 15 minutes w/ a prescription, they don't know how to act. Younger Dr's are refusing to take on benzo patients because they know it's hard work. Plus a lot of time.
WHO is LETTING you taper? I was cut off cold turkey 6 months ago after 20 years, and have not been able to find ANY doctor to help my WORSENING withdrawal symptoms. I am desperate for a doctor that will help me taper off while I seek therapy. I am a sole parent and cannot cope anymore with a special needs son, and am now bedridden sick 😭PLEASE HELP, I am in QLD, but will go ANYWHERE for a doctor 🙏🏼 😰
This is so true Jesus what do the doctors think here that rapidly tapering off the medication won't cause severe issues mentally and physically?? Most doctors are oblivious with the timeliness on how it takes a very long time to taper off benzos.... otherwise you are creating more visits to he er and doctors office
When was this? My doctor was fine and then overnight seemed to be just adamant about pulling me off asap. Curious if there was a crackdown or just every so often and it’s doctors trying to protect their liability rather than patient care especially off of benzodiazepines or opiates. I abused opiates for years and alcohol which I’ve quit both and off antidepressants with benzodiazepines but feels like something that’s helped cut out years of abuse of other substances and taking one prescribed med to get off everything else I struggled for years with in a matter of months but just like you I got half and basically a figure it out at the worst time. Rapid taper is by far de-habilitating you can barely do anything let alone work or take care of yourself and you don’t know how long it’ll last. Hope you’re doing okay and staying healthy. Any tips or tricks that helped get you over the edge and back to reality?
Exactly! I have a lifelong dreaded fear of dentists and Valium really helped me with this. Now I have to do costly sedation dentistry. It’s just insane.
I got no taper off of alcohol and Xanax. I put myself in the psych ward to come off. 3 days of not being able to sit still, sleep, eat or breathe. It puts your body in a constant state of fight or flight/panic attack for days. This is why patients kill themselves. It’s not our fault, it’s the doctors and I don’t know how they sleep at night.
I love how you put this. I have suffered since I was nine years old with panic disorder I am now 32 and cannot leave my house. I have taken ssris and snris and beta blockers which landed me in the hospital after taking too many because my brain is unfortunately or fortunately intelligent enough to distinguish the difference between high blood pressure and actual anxiety, and I have taken every route medication wise that is not benzodiazepine and also fighting Muay Thai so I practiced heavy meditation and mindfulness but my panic attacks never stop. I would throw up before getting on roller coasters not after, on Christmas mornings, I mean you name it any oz of excitement and I'm throwing up. I really hope that I can get the right treatment because I'm not seeking them out I just would have them as a security blanket, except knowing you have them prescribed to you might make you want to take them less and have the need to take them less. If that makes any sense but great video brother thank you
It took me five years to feel 90% better the first two years I couldn’t even go out of the house. I’m very fortunate. I have a wife that supported me financially and emotionally. I don’t know what I would’ve done because I couldn’t work. I couldn’t do much of anything, I probably had 20 different symptoms after five years I have burning in my feet and teeth pain that I pray will go away one day
I’m fuckin scared. I was prescribed Xanax 1mg tabs 10 weeks ago I’ve been breaking them in half and taking .5mg twice a day. Some days I don’t take any just because I forget to. I didn’t take it at all for three days and I noticed I felt kinda dizzy while walking around. I’m I fucked?
That's my case now and am taking nasty Seroquel for sleep/anxiety and I'm so afraid of TD!! How is that any better?! I want to stop taking it but am scared of having a seizure again from insomnia!! Ugh! I'd much rather be on benzos!
They did this to a relative of mine. Pulled her off of Klonopin in ONE week, then put her on Pristiq, Gabapentin, and Lithium. She hasn't been the same person for over a decade. In and out of hospitals the last few years.
Excellent video .. Coming from experience too. I was ventilated twice from a benzo withdrawal 15 months ago. They are so dangerous .. taper by 0.25mg every week is the ONLY way
At this point the general public knows so much more than real doctors, because actual real doctors like you educate the public and then all the other doctors are just a clerical necessity.
My doctor is doing the same to me. She is going to begin my taper (24 yrs on Xanax) next session, but is telling me that she will be increasing my Paxil. Im sorry but one does not cancel out the other. Im so scared because i live by myself and won't be able to function. Pls help.🙏
That’s what happened to me. I was on Ativan for my anxiety attacks I got from Kratom. I had a seizure and I had to quit both of them CT. I was put on Seroquil for sleep taking 400mg. Now, I’m only taking 50mg Seroquil and tapering off of it. I might be able to get off of it any day
My psychiatrist decided I needed to stop taking Xanax after almost 5 years of daily use. My monthly appointment was on a Tues and she decided to "taper me through Friday". I honestly didn't think I was going to live through that. My depression became severe. The absolute worst it has and has ever been. It took me 2 full years to stop considering suicide on a daily basis. Initially, I would call a friend to pick me up and let me sit in his car while he went on-site to check on how various jobs were going because I was afraid to be alone by myself.
I have tardive dyskinesia and dystonia from Maxalon. Aka reglan, metoclopramide anti nausea.. most anti medications are dangerous. Especially during pregnancy. This includes anti reflux. Thank you for being honest🎉
Trying to get help for benzo addiction and ther is none my local drug services are useless and wont prescribe them just like my doctor so iam taking the matter to court ther is no help watsoever and doctors just pass the buck and stick together when it comes to benzos
What do we do in the case the doctor just decides to choose the taper? I’ve tried and showed studies and medical journals when being told gabapentin is the best treatment vs a longer taper. Basically scoffed. (I’m a masters educated tax research about to go into law) I’m not reading Forbes articles but doctors don’t seem to care they think we’re just searching for meds but taper is causing problems and my doctor knowing I’m a sole owned tax firm owner chose Feb - April to start a rapid taper with a move in May and financial issues. Very great timing to pull someone off a med that’s helps me get off alcohol for nearly a year, reach new levels in business, build better boundaries in relationships/business and get off anti depressants. (Wasn’t asking for increase just steady taper for long period of use of Valium for half life) Basically doctors aren’t listening and see it accounting or law or other professions we just do what we are taught or were told for years then realize we were wrong. But scoffing when providing case studies and scholarly articles about another med that has potentially more side effects is just common practice it seems.
Bravo for this public & hopeful to professionals statement . A pharmacist defaced my legitimate Diaz script as I was interstate. Rang my normal pharmacy & they were horrified but as nothing they could do as it was defaced Great Xmas . & I’m not on much doing my own taper but geez . My blood pressure went off the scale. Thankfully my normal but irregular hours/ days / weeks/ months GP came back . He just writes the script ever 6 weeks & not interested in conversation. I’ll get there . Bit harder when you’re older though. No option though . Down . & off . I hate em .
I taking 120 1 MG 3x a day..For 10 or more yrs. They tapering me 1 a month I'm down to 25. And my anxiety is creeping. I'm a Veteran suffering from a multitude of ailments. ( ptsd , anxiety disorder, etc.)
Nobody benifits from thesd drugs. Theyvare toxic literally. They can cause nuero inflansttiin an nurro dysfunction. That can be detected by a spinal tap.
I benefit and I’ve been on it for 24 years. My fear is that it will be harder to get Rx filled if or when they change regulations. I’d rather start a slow taper now than be forced because I can’t get a script filled. I’m scared.
Never go on any antipsychotic meds if your doctors took you off benzo cold turkey. Find a doctor who will hear you out, a healthy doctor and patient relationship should be mutual, communication should be in both ways. I would suggest looking into the GABA/ Dopamine relation,when you are on benzo ,GABA goes up ,Dopamine goes down. So when you are going through benzo withdrawal,GABA goes down ,dopamine goes up,which is why antipsychotic are suggested because it dampens your dopamine so that you can sleep but it will cause permanent movement disorder. Exercise if you can ,focus on probiotics to heal your guts.
been on klonopin for 3,5 years. wouldn’t know what to do without. same dosage still very low. they even kept me on it during pregnancy because there’s no proof that it hurts the baby
I cannot be the only one who has never had any withdrawal from benzodiazepines, I have been prescribed them at times for months years and then lost my insurance and had to stop and had zero ill effects, just my panic attacks becoming unbearable again, I don't understand why i have never experienced this and it aggrevates me that they are becoming more and more demonized and hard to be prescribed
I hear You. Yes its a witch hunt on sensitive people these days in general. Totally unecessary because any other drug is much more dangerous. Irrational and sadistic. My theory is that health "care" workers" will keep them for themselves. No,not even joking. I have met several docs that are on morphine. At work. Prescribing useless and dangerous meds to people in crisis. I know why this happens now. With the influx(at least that is whats said) of fentanyl people are scared to death to buy illegal. So now is the hay days of sadisic lawmakers and docs. Nice huh.
@ljsc1265 that's not it, I only rarely take benzos now, when a friend I trust can spare them, it is very difficult to explain your mental health struggles to a doctor or psychiatrist and be given anti histamines or anti psychotics or anti depressants, none of which work and actually make me feel worse, I can't bare finding the strength and courage to explain myself to another doctor and have the same results, it just causes more pain.
Same with alcohol. Some people just feel tired and irritable for a week and others have seizures. I don't understand it either. I do think it's worse for people who are in a poor nutritional status. With alcohol it depletes B vitamins and the lower the B vitamins the greater the chance of you having a seizure or DTs. Maybe it's like that with Benzos too.
I had a doctor taper me too fast and I had a complete meltdown! I had to go back on the benzodiazepines and it took me over 3 years to get back to somewhat normal. Seven years later and I still have brain fog and my memory is terrible but atleast I’m not having continuous panic attacks and depersonalization like before. I plan on tapering on my own over a two year period.
Drs don’t care. At all. Especially at the VA I’m on Diazepam, 5mg for crippling back spasms from a military injury and yes it also helps stress. I’ve never, in 9 years on them, ran out early or treated it as anything else than just one of my meds. Until I traveled Drs wouldn’t even write a 2 week dose abroad when I wanted to stay longer at home with my family in another state A dr will laugh and let you die. That’s the stone cold truth. It’s like taking diabetics off insulin. It’s evil. My fear is that since I refuse to come off them as they allow me to participate in life and I’m unwilling to be tortured via forced withdrawal, what is the homeopathic solution? Is there a root, flower, extraction etc that could flood the mu receptor that the medication hits? I ask this not to be crazy, but because the day is coming where private practices are a thing of the past. And my life depends on it.
Closest I’ve found is holy basil. Magnesium glycinate helps a bit too but I seemed to feel a slight ache from my kidney from time to time. I read an article recently on how the timeline matches up that the less we included liver (specifically calf or lamb) coincides with the descent into poor health we blame on everything else like too much sugar and on, when liver contains choline and is packed with stuff we need. Also, the closest I’ve come to understanding a physiological element of anxiety rather than purely emotional (because there are PLENTY of times nothing is wrong yet I still feel anxiety) is the histamine balance. If you research histamine and the types of and how complex it is, you will understand why patients get pigeonholed, same with other mental illnesses and addictions, it’s laziness on dr.s’ part. Well, that and their ‘I know it all’ego.
Benzodiazepines by themselves are not inherently dangerous for the vast majority; it is withdrawal that can be difficult or dangerous. Most doctors are not concerned about the dangers of benzodiazepines as they are safer of than most drugs, but because some are abusing them with opioids, snd, unfortunately, the law, therefore, has unfairly cast a net over them because of the abuse, and doctors are afraid to lose their license.
Patently false. Benzodiazepines do cause neuroadaptations, which can take months to years to recover from even after discontinuation, and studies show as many as 40% of people have a very difficult time coming off, despite taking their dose as prescribed by their doctors. It's been known for a long time that benzodiazepines carry a huge risk when taken longer than two to four weeks. While effective for short-term use, benzodiazepines have no clear evidence-based indication or benefit for long-term use, while serious risks are well understood.4 These risks include sedation and risk of overdose; drowsiness and lethargy contributing to falls; impairment of psychomotor skills, judgment, and coordination increasing risk of accidents; cognitive and memory impairment; depression and emotional blunting; physiologic dependence and abuse potential; interactions with other medications; and the potential for withdrawal. Ashton C.H., Trattamento P.P.I., Della Disuassefazione D. "Benzodiazepines. How they work and How to withdraw" University of Newcastle, 2002 Ogbonna C.I., Lembke A. "Tapering patients off of benzodiazepines." Am Fam Physician. 2017; 96: 606-610
Its not just about individuals " abusing" them. Its about the hundreds millions of patients prescribed these, who then attempt to come off of them,and are being irreparably damaged. Thousands have committed suicide. THATS their problem. Stop victim blaming. Patients get enough of that gaslighting from their practitioners.
@@steph7960 The principal problem is the abuse of benzodiazepines; e.g., combining them with opioids. This abuse, in a political climate of alarm over opioids and fentanyl deaths and injuries, has caused a severe backlash over benzodiazepines, which has caused almost all doctors to be afraid of losing their license, or even being legally prosecuted, if they write an Rx for benzodiazepines, even if a patient has benefited from their use, Therefore, society faces the problem of patients being forced off a medication, usually in an unsafe manner, that has given benzodiazepines their bad image. Benzodiazepines in and of themselves can be safe and effective if prescribed judiciously and taken as prescribed. You don’t see patients being forced off of antidepressants or other medications that patients may become dependent on. The abuse of benzodiazepines and the subsequent political backlash is the major problem. That being said, given the dependency created by benzodiazepines, their initial prescribing should be reduced and only if other medications have been ineffective. Further, patients need to be made aware of the implications of taking benzodiazepines.
Lies. They are still dangerous taken exactly as prescribed. Whether some idiot doctor has prescribed the drug or not does not change anything about the drug itself. The harm comes from exposure to the drug. Prescribing has no special supernatural power to make the drug safe.
@@steph7960Absolutely agree. Incorrect/incomplete information. ANYone can develop tolerance withdrawl at ANY time. Out of nowhere, benzos will grab you by the throat and try to steal your EVERYthing. Took as prescribed. For 19 years. All was “well.” Until it wasn’t. 5 years liberated and able to truly feel my Life now; it was the worst “ got you” of my life. Thank God I am as strong as I am. Nothing-I mean nothing- ( I taught middle school) scares me anymore after what I went through with this medication. Good luck to all. ❤
When will some one start a class action lawsuit? This is insane. These doctors know how much we will suffer. However its all about the money. If I haven't died in the past 10+ years I certainty doubt benzos will take me out.
YES! And DUH!!! And we don’t need to be doctors to understand this so why can’t they? Which leads reasonable people to believe they must know anyways and just not care!
My 14 year old daughter was given seraquil by a doctor. Im in Australia and absolutely horrified by the way doctor ls just use pills - even on children - instead of working on lifestyle changes.
Listen to your gut! So much can be done with diet especially in children. Consider functional medicine testing for nutritional deficiencies and possible toxic exposures before accepting a psych med prescription.
I’m being tapered off so fast and they just prescribed me Seroquel yeah I knock out but WHAT ABOUT THE LONG TERM EFFECTS ITS GOING TO HAVE ON MY BODY? I’m not going to take it anymore I refuse
Slow taper is the only way. Doctors who prescribe for over a decade then push you to get off of them are the problem. We cannot live life in the first place nonetheless the issues of withdrawal. I don't wish this on my worst enemy!
These medications cause nueroinflamstiin. An nuero dysfunction. Thats why so many are suffering from this medication. Taking this medication is like playing Russian rullette with your brain an nervous system. Very dangerous , VERY TOXIC DRUGS!
@@Velouria2024 thess videos are for the ones that are suffering from damage from these drugs. There not for the ones that the drugs have helped. If they help you then that's good. But we cant just ignore the fact that thsss drugs have literally ruined thousands upon thousands of innocent peoples lives. Peopls are committing suicide all the time because of these drugs. There health gets messed up they loss relationships jobs houses. It's not fair too just talk about the good of the drugs, wich I personally don't beleivd there is any good. But it's important to talk about the ugly truth aswell about these drugs. It could potentially help the next person from getting hurt.
I'm so sick of providers messing up and then passing the buck on to their patients. First, it was opiates now its benzos tomorrow will be ozempic. Avoid the Rollercoaster. Get second opinions, do your own research
They need to change the protocols from tapering people off. Many are afraid to assist the patient with long term tapering. They dont want a red flag by their name.
Get over to Mexico. Go to a Farmacia Similares. There is doctors working at those farmacias and a drop in appointment is 2.5-5 usd. Explain your situation and you will get your script. The medications are also dirt cheap. Hope you get better.
@@s.o.c.2669 yes it is 100% successful. If you are denied a script for it you can just go to another farmacia down the block. It’s very rare for them to deny a script though. They will prescribe just tell them why you need it.
And now it's effect has worn off....what do l do now? I know if l go back he will put the dose up? And l fear it will be an insidious climb . Up and up and when do l stop?
These medications can be life saving for some people but all get a bad name from people abusing them so everyone panics and then the people that really need them have to suffer Respect the medication 💊 as prescribed and they can save your life
Get the word out! Slow tapers are key to success!
Well.... many times even a very slow taper can be nonstop hell on earth.... sometimes for years.
@@Q1776Q that’s true I know some people can’t even do slow tapers but it’s better than a fast taper anyday
@@Irishrose777 Yes.... Very true!
From what I’ve read everyone has different reactions, some can rapid taper some cannot and need to taper on a slow scale.
Is the medical profession just concerned with liability than patient health? I’d love to hear from a practicing doctor if this is the case post pandemic or there’s shortages of staff so there’s no time for research and trying new treatment plans?
@@Q1776Qrepent and believe the gospel!
I think that doctors need to go to some specialization , re - education just regarding benzo and antidepressants withdrawal. Great damage can be done to patients trying to taper off. For example I asked 3 doctors how would they taper somebody from benzos or antidepressants whatever, their answer was max 3 weeks home schedule or same duration in hospital. I was astonished at how their arrogance is enormous. How many % Drs are aware of this what are you talking about? Who is going trough massive amount of information and videos available now on internet to educate themselves about this issues? Nobody. That's really sad.
The practice of ripping patients off benzodiazepines and putting them on antipsychotics is rampant in assisted living and skilled nursing facilities. I didn’t even introduce an antipsychotic during my withdrawal and developed tardive neurological issues. Since I’ve come off the benzodiazepine (Klonopin) I am intolerant to nearly all pharmaceuticals. If they’d introduced an antipsychotic for sleep, I’d probably be dead. I want to know how many times this practice has gone wrong in these facilities. The 70 year old brain is even less forgiving. I imagine this practice has caused a horrible death for many.
@kev741 I agree with you. We are the ones online expressing our horrid experiences. How many are not being heard?
YES. I CAN'T EVEN TAKE IBUPROFEN ANY MORE. OR EVEN TYLENOL. IT'S DUE TO THE B R A I N D A M A G E.
MANY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THEM! THEY N E V E R WARN THEM!!!! EVER!
That's why people go to the internet for withdrawal and not to their doc. Physicians know very little about this.
Thank you. People should know. Many patients prescribed Benzos and Antidepressants concurrently.
My ex was put on benzoes, antidepressants, antipsychotics, and meds for epilepsy. In the meantime, his cancer (in the root of the tongue that metastasized to vocal chords, tonsil, and lymph nodes) and hepatitis C progressed undetected and undisturbed! Ah, yes, he was also mourning his mother.
Yeah, I was on vali*m for 7 years and some idiot tried to take me off in one week because that's what the the manufacturer said. I was inpatient and when they saw what it did, to me, I told them to use the Ashton manual. These were psychiatrists. They were clueless. I reinstated and tapered correctly for the the next 2 and half years. It was brutal but I was able to do it. I refused to go on Seroquel. Face it. Some doctors don't believe their patients, they don't listen and they don't care.
AGREED. It’s bad when we patients have to do so much research we have to find out how the dr.s were educated to see if they were taught the proper material!
Repent!
Well well, if it isnt "I am suffering from the consequences of my own action and its other peoples fault that I am in pain"
@@josephsailo7555 You don't know what you are talking about. I was on it for trigeminal neuralgia. The most painful condition known to man. I had a neurologist who prescribed it. I absolutely needed it for pain (along with a few other drugs) until I got brain surgery. When I wanted to come off of it, when it was no longer needed, was when the psychiatrist stepped in and almost killed me. My "action" was trying to come off of it. If they had tapered me, like they should have, it wouldn't have almost destroyed my life. Luckily, I found a fantastic NP who let me taper over years and was supportive and I recovered. I never would have gone on it if it wasn't absolutely necessary. However it really doesn't matter why someone is on a benzo. The doctors who are the ones who prescribe them don't know anything about them.
This is the only medication that really help me and the dr refused to give it to me im really going to a bad time right now i lost my job my family is not supporting me i can’t even sleep sometimes I get sooo sick i think im going to pass away i get shortness of breast and start shaking my heart start raising basically im going to a ruff time and people think im lying or something i really don’t know what to do 😢
Why don't doctors understand you cannot replace a benzo with another drug class. My doctors advice is very scary.
I'm honestly starting to think it's because of their low IQ
JUST NOW?! Patients have complained about this for decades. Psychiatry should be ashamed about the fact that they’ve gaslit and ignored patients about this for so long. My wife went cold Turkey off alprazolam after we lost health insurance in 2008 she’s had brain zaps ever since.
Yes, it is bs
And it's incredibly easy to taper off if done slowly.
THEY HAVE BEEN DESTROYING PATIENTS LIVES AND FUTURES FOR 65+ YEARS. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT, THINK AGAIN.
I have leg zaps ! I overdosed on Sereqil !!!
They used me like a lab rat for 15 years . They stold my life .
YOU ARE RIGHT. THEY ALL KNOW.
Your channel is very informative
Yep. I was part of training doctors to taper safely here in the uk and they over re acted, and put nothing in place for those they are not medicating now or pulling off meds too fast
2 years and I'm still a mess, don't take this drug.
What’s the problem?
@@jeffzest8393 Anxiety still but not as bad, major insomnia still
i take tavor for 30 years no problems at all
@@DonPascquale Yeah try to get off it you will be in hell for a long time man trust me.
@@acelarson1872 the question is why should i get off? my brother is a doctor and i get the prescription from him. i will just take it for the rest of my life. but iam sorry that you have this bad withdrawal symptoms...i really dont understand why psychiatrists or doctors even try to get elderly people 70+ off benzos when they took them for decades. makes zero sense to me but thats our wierd system. just let them take their medication untill they die i dont understand whats the problem. somone that takes medication for diabetes or high blood pressure or whatever you dont tell them randomly oh sir you should stop to take your insuline now we think its bad for you... 🤔 but alcohol, the worst drug ever you can still buy around every corner.
My doctor tried to put me on Seroquel at the beginning of an extremely fast benzo taper. I refused to take it, he dismissed me after 25 years!!!I actually wound up in the hospital, frantic, because I couldn’t find another doctor willing to take on a “benzo patient “. This was four years ago and I’m still tapering.
That is sadistic. I am sorry. They drive people to buy on the street,so then they have blood on their hands. "Do no harm" my...
Benzos save lives. Period. Other meds takes lives. Enough of the hysteria and witch hunt.
That's usually the result- dismiss you. 99% of doctors don't like patient led because they r not in complete control. If they can't solve the problem in 15 minutes w/ a prescription, they don't know how to act. Younger Dr's are refusing to take on benzo patients because they know it's hard work. Plus a lot of time.
How did you find a doctor to put you back on them?
WHO is LETTING you taper? I was cut off cold turkey 6 months ago after 20 years, and have not been able to find ANY doctor to help my WORSENING withdrawal symptoms. I am desperate for a doctor that will help me taper off while I seek therapy. I am a sole parent and cannot cope anymore with a special needs son, and am now bedridden sick 😭PLEASE HELP, I am in QLD, but will go ANYWHERE for a doctor 🙏🏼 😰
@@patriciapetraello8118My doctor is in Overland Park, Kansas. Very good and very patient. I got very lucky finding him.
This is so true Jesus what do the doctors think here that rapidly tapering off the medication won't cause severe issues mentally and physically?? Most doctors are oblivious with the timeliness on how it takes a very long time to taper off benzos.... otherwise you are creating more visits to he er and doctors office
They told me to taper myself off heavy opiates and heavy benzos. Gave me half a months supply and said taper yourself. It ruined my life.
How are you doing?
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I’m so sorry.
Same , it took years to feel better for me ! But I lost everything
@@ronrosati8896how long did it take for you
When was this? My doctor was fine and then overnight seemed to be just adamant about pulling me off asap. Curious if there was a crackdown or just every so often and it’s doctors trying to protect their liability rather than patient care especially off of benzodiazepines or opiates. I abused opiates for years and alcohol which I’ve quit both and off antidepressants with benzodiazepines but feels like something that’s helped cut out years of abuse of other substances and taking one prescribed med to get off everything else I struggled for years with in a matter of months but just like you I got half and basically a figure it out at the worst time. Rapid taper is by far de-habilitating you can barely do anything let alone work or take care of yourself and you don’t know how long it’ll last. Hope you’re doing okay and staying healthy.
Any tips or tricks that helped get you over the edge and back to reality?
The whole industry should be panicked.
Keep up the brave work!
Exactly! I have a lifelong dreaded fear of dentists and Valium really helped me with this. Now I have to do costly sedation dentistry. It’s just insane.
I got no taper off of alcohol and Xanax. I put myself in the psych ward to come off. 3 days of not being able to sit still, sleep, eat or breathe. It puts your body in a constant state of fight or flight/panic attack for days. This is why patients kill themselves. It’s not our fault, it’s the doctors and I don’t know how they sleep at night.
Finally!!!!!! Now must get word out how gest to tapper
Maybe best solution is to keep taking if works for you.
I love how you put this. I have suffered since I was nine years old with panic disorder I am now 32 and cannot leave my house. I have taken ssris and snris and beta blockers which landed me in the hospital after taking too many because my brain is unfortunately or fortunately intelligent enough to distinguish the difference between high blood pressure and actual anxiety, and I have taken every route medication wise that is not benzodiazepine and also fighting Muay Thai so I practiced heavy meditation and mindfulness but my panic attacks never stop. I would throw up before getting on roller coasters not after, on Christmas mornings, I mean you name it any oz of excitement and I'm throwing up. I really hope that I can get the right treatment because I'm not seeking them out I just would have them as a security blanket, except knowing you have them prescribed to you might make you want to take them less and have the need to take them less. If that makes any sense but great video brother thank you
Patient led, AMEN 🙏
Protracted withdrawals aren’t like paws from opiates. The mental effects are dangerous
Patient ls are having insomnia solely because they are anxious coming off of benzos. Insomnia is one of the most common taper symptom.
Thank you are the only advocate we have as far as dangerous Benzos are concern.God Bless you.
Thank you for being the voice for us who suffered from Benzodiazepines
"Patient lead". The future has arrived ❤
Thanks for putting this out! Benzos are so stigmatized
It took me five years to feel 90% better the first two years I couldn’t even go out of the house. I’m very fortunate. I have a wife that supported me financially and emotionally. I don’t know what I would’ve done because I couldn’t work. I couldn’t do much of anything, I probably had 20 different symptoms after five years I have burning in my feet and teeth pain that I pray will go away one day
They should have done this 60 years ago when the destruction of benzos began. Since then, they have destroyed Millions of Lives, mine included.
I’m fuckin scared. I was prescribed Xanax 1mg tabs 10 weeks ago I’ve been breaking them in half and taking .5mg twice a day. Some days I don’t take any just because I forget to. I didn’t take it at all for three days and I noticed I felt kinda dizzy while walking around. I’m I fucked?
I had three grand mal seizures from stopping . One where I was driving .
Benzodiazepines is the worst thing to ever take.
I watch this channel 90% for the information and 10% for the eye candy 😍
Libido detected!
How is this not common knowledge within the healthcare system?
Because pharmaceutical companies provide the doctors training for prescriptions.
IT IS KNOWN BY ALL OF THEM. TRUST US ON THIS!
This is absolutely correct
That's my case now and am taking nasty Seroquel for sleep/anxiety and I'm so afraid of TD!! How is that any better?! I want to stop taking it but am scared of having a seizure again from insomnia!! Ugh! I'd much rather be on benzos!
They did this to a relative of mine. Pulled her off of Klonopin in ONE week, then put her on Pristiq, Gabapentin, and Lithium. She hasn't been the same person for over a decade. In and out of hospitals the last few years.
Excellent video .. Coming from experience too. I was ventilated twice from a benzo withdrawal 15 months ago. They are so dangerous .. taper by 0.25mg every week is the ONLY way
We're u on Xanax?
@@manicmurphsame question
Don't prescribe benzos don't accept a prescription for benzos
Thank the Lord God Almighty I got off benzodiazepines and switched to supplements, and I have never felt better.
I suggest doing a very slow taper for one year and a half, you will not experience withdrawal symptoms.
My doctor made me quit cold turkey. Not even a sleeping pill for my sleep deprivation psychosis 😥 I’ve almost died
On point!!!
At this point the general public knows so much more than real doctors, because actual real doctors like you educate the public and then all the other doctors are just a clerical necessity.
My doctor is doing the same to me. She is going to begin my taper (24 yrs on Xanax) next session, but is telling me that she will be increasing my Paxil. Im sorry but one does not cancel out the other. Im so scared because i live by myself and won't be able to function. Pls help.🙏
That’s what happened to me. I was on Ativan for my anxiety attacks I got from Kratom. I had a seizure and I had to quit both of them CT.
I was put on Seroquil for sleep taking 400mg. Now, I’m only taking 50mg Seroquil and tapering off of it. I might be able to get off of it any day
Antishycotic also have major sexual dysfunction properties like pssd
Im going to show this to my psychiatrist
My psychiatrist decided I needed to stop taking Xanax after almost 5 years of daily use. My monthly appointment was on a Tues and she decided to "taper me through Friday". I honestly didn't think I was going to live through that. My depression became severe. The absolute worst it has and has ever been. It took me 2 full years to stop considering suicide on a daily basis. Initially, I would call a friend to pick me up and let me sit in his car while he went on-site to check on how various jobs were going because I was afraid to be alone by myself.
Great information. Thanks for sharing!
Glad it was helpful!
My taper is 2 years in and will probably another year.
Please don't give people the expectation that a long taper is 18 months.
I have tardive dyskinesia and dystonia from Maxalon. Aka reglan, metoclopramide anti nausea.. most anti medications are dangerous.
Especially during pregnancy. This includes anti reflux. Thank you for being honest🎉
Thank you!!!
Trying to get help for benzo addiction and ther is none my local drug services are useless and wont prescribe them just like my doctor so iam taking the matter to court ther is no help watsoever and doctors just pass the buck and stick together when it comes to benzos
What do we do in the case the doctor just decides to choose the taper? I’ve tried and showed studies and medical journals when being told gabapentin is the best treatment vs a longer taper. Basically scoffed. (I’m a masters educated tax research about to go into law) I’m not reading Forbes articles but doctors don’t seem to care they think we’re just searching for meds but taper is causing problems and my doctor knowing I’m a sole owned tax firm owner chose Feb - April to start a rapid taper with a move in May and financial issues. Very great timing to pull someone off a med that’s helps me get off alcohol for nearly a year, reach new levels in business, build better boundaries in relationships/business and get off anti depressants. (Wasn’t asking for increase just steady taper for long period of use of Valium for half life)
Basically doctors aren’t listening and see it accounting or law or other professions we just do what we are taught or were told for years then realize we were wrong. But scoffing when providing case studies and scholarly articles about another med that has potentially more side effects is just common practice it seems.
If this guy cared so much he wouldnt charge $20-50k!!!!!!! For a taper plan. That’s insanity
He does? We can follow the Ashton Manual for free. Hmm.
He also gives 'free' professional advice here? He is most helpful!
Bravo for this public & hopeful to professionals statement . A pharmacist defaced my legitimate Diaz script as I was interstate.
Rang my normal pharmacy & they were horrified but as nothing they could do as it was defaced Great Xmas . & I’m not on much doing my own taper but geez . My blood pressure went off the scale. Thankfully my normal but irregular hours/ days / weeks/ months GP came back . He just writes the script ever 6 weeks & not interested in conversation. I’ll get there . Bit harder when you’re older though. No option though . Down . & off . I hate em .
I taking 120 1 MG 3x a day..For 10 or more yrs. They tapering me 1 a month I'm down to 25. And my anxiety is creeping. I'm a Veteran suffering from a multitude of ailments. ( ptsd , anxiety disorder, etc.)
Or just keep people on them. People like myself and MANY OTHERS benefit greatly from long term benzo medication
Nobody benifits from thesd drugs. Theyvare toxic literally. They can cause nuero inflansttiin an nurro dysfunction. That can be detected by a spinal tap.
I benefit and I’ve been on it for 24 years. My fear is that it will be harder to get Rx filled if or when they change regulations. I’d rather start a slow taper now than be forced because I can’t get a script filled. I’m scared.
This should be a crime. They need to have a mandatory protocol for doing this to people.
Never go on any antipsychotic meds if your doctors took you off benzo cold turkey. Find a doctor who will hear you out, a healthy doctor and patient relationship should be mutual, communication should be in both ways. I would suggest looking into the GABA/ Dopamine relation,when you are on benzo ,GABA goes up ,Dopamine goes down. So when you are going through benzo withdrawal,GABA goes down ,dopamine goes up,which is why antipsychotic are suggested because it dampens your dopamine so that you can sleep but it will cause permanent movement disorder. Exercise if you can ,focus on probiotics to heal your guts.
been on klonopin for 3,5 years. wouldn’t know what to do without. same dosage still very low. they even kept me on it during pregnancy because there’s no proof that it hurts the baby
Going through benzo withdrawals. Cted after 3years. Haven't been able to sleep.
I cannot be the only one who has never had any withdrawal from benzodiazepines, I have been prescribed them at times for months years and then lost my insurance and had to stop and had zero ill effects, just my panic attacks becoming unbearable again, I don't understand why i have never experienced this and it aggrevates me that they are becoming more and more demonized and hard to be prescribed
I hear You. Yes its a witch hunt on sensitive people these days in general.
Totally unecessary because any other drug is much more dangerous. Irrational and sadistic. My theory is that health "care" workers" will keep them for themselves. No,not even joking.
I have met several docs that are on morphine. At work. Prescribing useless and dangerous meds to people in crisis.
I know why this happens now. With the influx(at least that is whats said) of fentanyl people are scared to death to buy illegal. So now is the hay days of sadisic lawmakers and docs. Nice huh.
Your panick attacks becoming more intense could be your withdrawal symptom. This is based on something I read. What do you think?
@ljsc1265 that's not it, I only rarely take benzos now, when a friend I trust can spare them, it is very difficult to explain your mental health struggles to a doctor or psychiatrist and be given anti histamines or anti psychotics or anti depressants, none of which work and actually make me feel worse, I can't bare finding the strength and courage to explain myself to another doctor and have the same results, it just causes more pain.
I came off clonazapam quickly after being on 1.5 for sleep for 10 years and I had no withdrawal. Don't have explanation for it.
Same with alcohol. Some people just feel tired and irritable for a week and others have seizures. I don't understand it either. I do think it's worse for people who are in a poor nutritional status. With alcohol it depletes B vitamins and the lower the B vitamins the greater the chance of you having a seizure or DTs. Maybe it's like that with Benzos too.
What are you talking about? This has been known for decades!
I had a doctor taper me too fast and I had a complete meltdown! I had to go back on the benzodiazepines and it took me over 3 years to get back to somewhat normal. Seven years later and I still have brain fog and my memory is terrible but atleast I’m not having continuous panic attacks and depersonalization like before. I plan on tapering on my own over a two year period.
My doctor put me on 200ml seroquel plus the Arivan. I am not taking any but am in acute withdrawl.
Oh boy!
I understand. 😪
I told my dr I wanted to come off Valium and she was like why?
DON'T EVER FORGET! THEY ALL KNEW WHAT WAS IN YOUR FUTURE(THE IMMENSE SUFFERING). EVERY ONE OF THEM KNEW!!!
What happens if you go cold turkey off these. What are the side affects compared to a very long taper off
Drs don’t care. At all.
Especially at the VA
I’m on Diazepam, 5mg for crippling back spasms from a military injury and yes it also helps stress.
I’ve never, in 9 years on them, ran out early or treated it as anything else than just one of my meds. Until I traveled
Drs wouldn’t even write a 2 week dose abroad when I wanted to stay longer at home with my family in another state
A dr will laugh and let you die. That’s the stone cold truth. It’s like taking diabetics off insulin. It’s evil.
My fear is that since I refuse to come off them as they allow me to participate in life and I’m unwilling to be tortured via forced withdrawal, what is the homeopathic solution? Is there a root, flower, extraction etc that could flood the mu receptor that the medication hits?
I ask this not to be crazy, but because the day is coming where private practices are a thing of the past. And my life depends on it.
Closest I’ve found is holy basil. Magnesium glycinate helps a bit too but I seemed to feel a slight ache from my kidney from time to time. I read an article recently on how the timeline matches up that the less we included liver (specifically calf or lamb) coincides with the descent into poor health we blame on everything else like too much sugar and on, when liver contains choline and is packed with stuff we need.
Also, the closest I’ve come to understanding a physiological element of anxiety rather than purely emotional (because there are PLENTY of times nothing is wrong yet I still feel anxiety) is the histamine balance. If you research histamine and the types of and how complex it is, you will understand why patients get pigeonholed, same with other mental illnesses and addictions, it’s laziness on dr.s’ part. Well, that and their ‘I know it all’ego.
Benzodiazepines by themselves are not inherently dangerous for the vast majority; it is withdrawal that can be difficult or dangerous. Most doctors are not concerned about the dangers of benzodiazepines as they are safer of than most drugs, but because some are abusing them with opioids, snd, unfortunately, the law, therefore, has unfairly cast a net over them because of the abuse, and doctors are afraid to lose their license.
Patently false. Benzodiazepines do cause neuroadaptations, which can take months to years to recover from even after discontinuation, and studies show as many as 40% of people have a very difficult time coming off, despite taking their dose as prescribed by their doctors. It's been known for a long time that benzodiazepines carry a huge risk when taken longer than two to four weeks.
While effective for short-term use, benzodiazepines have no clear evidence-based indication or benefit for long-term use, while serious risks are well understood.4 These risks include sedation and risk of overdose; drowsiness and lethargy contributing to falls; impairment of psychomotor skills, judgment, and coordination increasing risk of accidents; cognitive and memory impairment; depression and emotional blunting; physiologic dependence and abuse potential; interactions with other medications; and the potential for withdrawal.
Ashton C.H., Trattamento P.P.I., Della Disuassefazione D.
"Benzodiazepines. How they work and How to withdraw"
University of Newcastle, 2002
Ogbonna C.I., Lembke A.
"Tapering patients off of benzodiazepines."
Am Fam Physician. 2017; 96: 606-610
Its not just about individuals " abusing" them. Its about the hundreds millions of patients prescribed these, who then attempt to come off of them,and are being irreparably damaged. Thousands have committed suicide. THATS their problem. Stop victim blaming. Patients get enough of that gaslighting from their practitioners.
@@steph7960 The principal problem is the abuse of benzodiazepines; e.g., combining them with opioids. This abuse, in a political climate of alarm over opioids and fentanyl deaths and injuries, has caused a severe backlash over benzodiazepines, which has caused almost all doctors to be afraid of losing their license, or even being legally prosecuted, if they write an Rx for benzodiazepines, even if a patient has benefited from their use, Therefore, society faces the problem of patients being forced off a medication, usually in an unsafe manner, that has given benzodiazepines their bad image. Benzodiazepines in and of themselves can be safe and effective if prescribed judiciously and taken as prescribed. You don’t see patients being forced off of antidepressants or other medications that patients may become dependent on. The abuse of benzodiazepines and the subsequent political backlash is the major problem. That being said, given the dependency created by benzodiazepines, their initial prescribing should be reduced and only if other medications have been ineffective. Further, patients need to be made aware of the implications of taking benzodiazepines.
Lies. They are still dangerous taken exactly as prescribed. Whether some idiot doctor has prescribed the drug or not does not change anything about the drug itself. The harm comes from exposure to the drug. Prescribing has no special supernatural power to make the drug safe.
@@steph7960Absolutely agree. Incorrect/incomplete information. ANYone can develop tolerance withdrawl at ANY time. Out of nowhere, benzos will grab you by the throat and try to steal your EVERYthing. Took as prescribed. For 19 years.
All was “well.” Until it wasn’t. 5 years liberated and able to truly feel my Life now; it was the worst “ got you” of my life. Thank God I am as strong as I am. Nothing-I mean nothing- ( I taught middle school) scares me anymore after what I went through with this medication.
Good luck to all. ❤
When will some one start a class action lawsuit? This is insane. These doctors know how much we will suffer. However its all about the money. If I haven't died in the past 10+ years I certainty doubt benzos will take me out.
YES! And DUH!!! And we don’t need to be doctors to understand this so why can’t they? Which leads reasonable people to believe they must know anyways and just not care!
@@cirdancescles4370THAT IS EXACTLY THE TRUTH($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$).
My 14 year old daughter was given seraquil by a doctor.
Im in Australia and absolutely horrified by the way doctor ls just use pills - even on children - instead of working on lifestyle changes.
Listen to your gut! So much can be done with diet especially in children. Consider functional medicine testing for nutritional deficiencies and possible toxic exposures before accepting a psych med prescription.
Psychiatry has been lying for decades....never try to see a psychiatrist. !!!! All they want is money and power.
I’m being tapered off so fast and they just prescribed me Seroquel yeah I knock out but WHAT ABOUT THE LONG TERM EFFECTS ITS GOING TO HAVE ON MY BODY? I’m not going to take it anymore I refuse
Slow taper is the only way. Doctors who prescribe for over a decade then push you to get off of them are the problem. We cannot live life in the first place nonetheless the issues of withdrawal. I don't wish this on my worst enemy!
You look so very young in this video.
Could you just stop! These medicines have also helped millions of people.
These medications cause nueroinflamstiin. An nuero dysfunction. Thats why so many are suffering from this medication. Taking this medication is like playing Russian rullette with your brain an nervous system. Very dangerous , VERY TOXIC DRUGS!
They are literally poisonous Man made chemicals. Nothing good about this stuff at all.
@@Velouria2024 thess videos are for the ones that are suffering from damage from these drugs. There not for the ones that the drugs have helped. If they help you then that's good. But we cant just ignore the fact that thsss drugs have literally ruined thousands upon thousands of innocent peoples lives. Peopls are committing suicide all the time because of these drugs. There health gets messed up they loss relationships jobs houses. It's not fair too just talk about the good of the drugs, wich I personally don't beleivd there is any good. But it's important to talk about the ugly truth aswell about these drugs. It could potentially help the next person from getting hurt.
@user_rw1983 that's not exactly a true statement. Many people suffer for years. Its important people knos this evdn tho its kind of scary
I'm so sick of providers messing up and then passing the buck on to their patients. First, it was opiates now its benzos tomorrow will be ozempic. Avoid the Rollercoaster. Get second opinions, do your own research
They need to change the protocols from tapering people off. Many are afraid to assist the patient with long term tapering. They dont want a red flag by their name.
Extreme belching episodes.
These drs don’t give a lick about you.
Accept it !
popularized by Jordan Peterson. you're welcome
Doctors don’t wanna prescribe what works
After 8 years still shit days.
Im on temazepam . How much should i taper ?
Yeah my concentration isnt here because of benzos.
Please help, it is between life and death
My doctor Just took me off in less than 3 weeks and I don’t feel like I’m going to make it through this
Scary 😮
My doc died I got not get no more meds and no taper I am in bad pain do you have some one in tx to talk too
I’m so sorry! 😢 Have you found help yet?
Get over to Mexico. Go to a Farmacia Similares. There is doctors working at those farmacias and a drop in appointment is 2.5-5 usd. Explain your situation and you will get your script. The medications are also dirt cheap.
Hope you get better.
@Rocketman0407 did you get help there or know of someone? Was it successful? I'm asking because I'm in TX.
@@s.o.c.2669 yes it is 100% successful. If you are denied a script for it you can just go to another farmacia down the block. It’s very rare for them to deny a script though. They will prescribe just tell them why you need it.
@@s.o.c.2669 yes I have done it without any problem. They are not hysterical about Benzodiazepines in Mexico
About time
So can anyone tell me why Seroquel is dangerous 😳
@marianneellman1139 Have you ever taken Seroquel?
@L-xj2xs yes my phyciatrist Put me on it to sleep???
And now it's effect has worn off....what do l do now?
I know if l go back he will put the dose up?
And l fear it will be an insidious climb .
Up and up and when do l stop?
Legalize drugs already
Went to city three day days clean parked my car then everything went blank
These medications can be life saving for some people but all get a bad name from people abusing them so everyone panics and then the people that really need them have to suffer
Respect the medication 💊 as prescribed and they can save your life
💯
Homeopathy saves lifes ❤
Why all of a dudden
Geez
I've been
Someone talking sence