He probably needed to get home to his wife. John Hume once said to him, "Ian, if the word 'no' were to be removed from the English language, you'd be speechless, wouldn't you!" Paisley replied, "No, I wouldn't!" (ಠ⌣ಠ)
@@shill700 For those of us who met both John Hume and Ian Paisley, none of those met our prejudices. That is why Northern Ireland is decent today. You should learn from Dr. Paisley. Get outside your box. John Hume did. Ian and John are long gone, and those around them. May they rest in peace.
Actually these MPs were markedly far more restrained than they have been more recently e,g, when John Bercow ejected Dennis Skinner, or when Lindsay Hoyle ejected Ian Blackford, Neale Hanvey and Kenny MacAskill.
Ran Tothon true because when Michael Martin was speaker half the time he sounded like he was scared to say order and that he had no control over the house
many of these rules of behavior were made at a time when mps carried swords and sometimes even killed each other. if u look closely at the floor of the chamber u will see a red line in front of both front benches. the space in the middle of these lines is 2 sword lengths and members cannot cross that line. if a member does put his foot over the line the speaker would order them to " toe the line". thats where that phrase was invented.
This little gem of knowledge has proved being very elusive ..... I found it mentioned once in a German source out of all places and had never been able to verify it.
@@helmuttholen6053 This is indeed a common misconception. Weapons weren't allowed into parliament from the early 1300s. The idea the width of the floor is two swordlengths (how long is a sword?) is a 'falsehood'.
Boothroyd was a truly great speaker. She had every right to throw him out without calling a division, but she gave the man every possible chance in recognition of the magnitude of the situation. You wouldn't see many speakers do that.
No, Boothroyd IS a truly great speaker. She is now 89 and sits in the House of Lords, here she is a few weeks ago - ruclips.net/video/GrZFRVd-cX4/видео.html
@TheRenaissanceman65 No, Boothroyd IS a truly great orator, now in the House of Lords. She is now 89, here she is a few weeks ago - ruclips.net/video/GrZFRVd-cX4/видео.html Is that OK?
Betty Boothroyd was an excellent speaker. Such authority and yet such reasonableness. As for Ian Paisley, I may disagree with some of the things he said, but I admire his strength of character, his willingness to stand up for what he believed in against all opposition and his great oratory skills.
There was a character in Germany in the 20s and 30s who had strength of character, a great willingness to stand up for what he believed in against all opposition, and undeniably great oratory skills. Did you admire him too?
My understanding, from reading "Inside the House of Commons," by John Biffen, is that after the Speaker has "named" someone, a vote to exclude is required, but is perfunctory. What is interesting that Paisley apparently has enough support that the House was not willing to give automatic support to the Speaker and thereby force a division. Biffen served as Leader of the House under Thatcher, and it is the Leader of the House who makes the (usually) perfunctory motion to exclude. In his book, he says that he assumed he would have to use the motion against Paisley someday, but he never had to. According to Biffen, the "naming" procedure arose in the 1880's, as a way to deal with disruptions by MPs advocating Irish independence.
“the “naming” procedure arose in the 1880’s, as a way to deal with disruptions by MPs advocating Irish Independence” And this video, the Naming process is used AGAINST an - not - THE Ulster Unionist. Irony is not to be missed here.
The lady was the best speaker the House of Commons could wish for. She treated him with respect. You have to hand it to him...he was indeed a man of strong conviction.
@@Axel-hw6hk You got that right. They called him Dr. Paisley. He got his PHD from Bob Jones University in the US; it lost its tax exemption because it would not admit people of color.
Baroness Boothroyd was one of the single best Speakers ever to lead the House of Commons. She was tough but fair, open minded but no nonsense. She was an expert at handling the wild energies of the Commons, and knew when to let the House blow off steam and when to rein them in. She took no one’s crap and made sure everyone knew that she was in charge, but always did so in a way that didn’t chafe with the membership.
If any one person in Northern Ireland exacerbated the conflict in that Provence it was Ian Paisley. He claimed to speak for the people of Northern Ireland but the truth is he didn't even speak for the majority of unionists let alone any Catholics. I shed no tears when that man passed away.
I'm and Scottish with irish descent and while I would never agree with Ian paisley, I have to admit that he was a truly powerful person and powerful speaker and was one of very few unionist MPs I had respect for
@@DaRealist7 What is wrong with expressing your Irish roots as part of the United Kingdom? Where do you think you got that diagonal red cross in your flag from?!
Ayes (yesses, assents) to the right (of the Speaker, ie the side that the Govt sits), noes (dissents) to the left (ie where the Opposition sits). Simple.
@@fds7476 There's this really cool thing nowadays where if you're unsure or confused or don't know something, you can type in a question and get loads of answers to help. It's called a "search engine", you should try it, it's really quite something. Unfortunately it does involve having this other thing called a Brain, which might be harder to come by, as they're not available in a shop or something.
yes, you are correct. Suspension is simply that. Being named involves suspension and loss of pay, 5 days for a first offence. If the speaker names an MP, a vote is then held for the house to decide if they are suspended. If the aye/no is unclear, a division is then held. A more dramatic one happened when John McDonnell was named for wielding the ceremonial mace. The great Sir Alan Hazelhurst was in the chair for that one.
So that he could bring recognition to the principle of why he was being thrown out. Essentially, escalating the status of his act of martyrdom in a way.
IntenationalistOnTheRight They typically voted with the Tories, and on any occasion Major's govt was up against it in a tight vote he would rely upon the Unionists of NI to carry the vote.
there is no great reason other than its a bit of a gimmick for my channel. i made a mock MGM intro a few years ago with thatcher as the MGM lion. after a while i figured out how to make a few others and it just went on from there. iv got about 60 different intros now. everything from mrs thatcher as donkey kong to spiderman or a spice girl.... and knightmare.
paisley stood by what he said outside the house of commons and put up one hell of an argument, the secretary of state was a lying bastard, if anything he should've resigned
Agreed. Reverend Paisley fought for what he believed in & wasn't afraid to stand up in & up to the House & speak his mind. R.I.P Dr (Reverend) Ian Paisley - you are & always will be a legend.
yes. its one of the rules for paliamentry behavior. im guessing its a rule because if it were not then the mps would call each other liers all the time. also its probably to help stop members becoming so angry with each other that fights start. even though the house seems very rude at times there are several rules about what they can say in anger. if it becomes too personal or hateful the speaker will call them to order
Ian is actually ok i am a Catholic from Dublin with a strong working class Irish accent and he was cool with me we spoke years ago for about half an hour he has a great sense of humor too..you must remember how things were in Ireland back then and you will understand why he was so dogged in his politics
OK lake, how are you son? You're a Catholic from Dublin, good man, and I take that point you've made there. Considering the way things were in Ireland back then as you say, he is the sort of person you don't need in any era or conflicting situation. That man's a nutter, an absolute raving nutcase with an awful lot of blood on his hands. The kind of person the World can do without son, because he wouldn't make anything better. Still, take it easy.
He founded a terrorist group called Ulster Resistance, but bailed out when they were caught with a load of guns, this man is pure evil and you are pure simple......
Nah, he doesn't show respect. He's an MP and refused a request from the speaker to withdrawal his comment, then refused an order to leave. Thats disrespect. Cant offer respect to a person that has none.
@@agornath1 eh??? You’ve got to be joking! Try 1988 in the European Parliament Paisley’ s outburst to Pope John Paul “I denounce you as the antichrist” also held up placard with the same venom written on it.
You pretend that you care to get yourself elected, then change your mind again and again to toady up to people higher up the greasy pole until you get a promotion. It's called politics (or hypocrisy)...
I think you’ll find it’s "didn’t speak like that",your English is terrible! And you don’t know the meaning of the word snob! This is very evident from the choice of wording and structure of your reply!
Someone else's sexual preferences are of no concern to me! Whatever takes place between 2 consenting adults of sound mind is NOONE ELSE'S business! Now who's being a snob?(judging others unfairly is a form of snobbery!)
I couldn't care less where Betty is from or about her sexual preferences! Sometimes one's way of speaking has to be modified due to different regional accents. Eg. A Geordie in London would have to speak clearly so would a Cockney in Glasgow and vice versa! Due to this your point is not valid! Snobs assume some sort of moral superiority over others regardless of upbringing or class(which I don't believe in!) Your posts have shown a form of snobbery,inverted or otherwise!
What on earth does it matter what her sexual preferences were and what her accent was like? She was a great speaker, surely that's what we should judge her on. I don't think there's any real evidence she is a lesbian but it wouldn't matter if she was. You call her a snob (with no basis) but seem happy to be a homophobe yourself. I think it's you that is the problem here.
Another thing learned about the House of Commons, how you can be suspended by a vote from your peers. Unthinkable in Germany, where the respective state's and federal parliament president would do that in private session at most. The most your MP peers can do in Germany is vote on the parliament floor to suspend your immunity, not to suspend you outright.
@@londoncalling151 I didn't know that, plus I wasn't talking about Dr. Paisley, I was talking about how the Speaker of the House of Commons can suspend someone from Parliament without having a debate and a vote on that. Just talking about the difference between two parliamentary systems.
yes he did claim that and many many other things. im not exactly sure but i think when the speaker asks them to leave they are banned from the building for that day. if the refuse to leave then the speaker "names" them and a vote is held and if the commons agrees then they will be ejected and banned for 4 or 5 days. i think pay is also suspended.
Lytrigian If someone calls for a division then a division has to be called so I would suspect that 90% of the motion to suspend will be followed by a division. In Australia every time someone is named they will always have a division no matter what. In Australia we have Standing Order 94(a) which allows the Speaker to 'sin bin' a member for 1 hour to calm them down. Naming an MP is a rare and serious matter.
Gary Wright In Westminster they have a voice vote each time, but this is the only video I've seen on YT of someone being named in Commons where the speaker actually called for a division. Which is why I asked.
Lytrigian Understood ... yes they do have a voice vote but the option is there under the standing orders for a division ... I guess this video is the most famous one of someone being named. It would be interesting to research your question direct from the Commons Library.
Gary Wright There's always a need for a division when the voice vote is unclear, or where members insist on one. I don't see that the vote to suspend a member is unique in that.
Lytrigian With only 25 voting not to suspend, those 25 must have awfully loud voices, to make the voice vote so unclear that a division was required. What is the minimum number of members needed to force a division?
Although Ian Paisley should complied with the order to withdraw, that aside I thought he was very restrained in what he said. Those criticiisng him below should bear in mind how his later role as First Minister demonstrated that he was a far more complex person than his image suggested.
Not the Lords as this is the House of Commons but that is splitting hairs. A naming very rarely goes to a formal vote as MPs tend not to which to challenge the chair on this issue. Once when a division was called no one would act as tellers for the 'no' side as such the 'ayes' won with out a vote as it was seen as the 'nos' not having any support.
I can see the resemblance but the voice isn't right, so I've just checked this in Hansard. Tellers for the ayes were David Lightbown (Heath lookalike) and Sydney Chapman. For the noes Peter Robinson and William McCrea, though that looks like David Trimble (who voted no) stood at the table. Heath voted aye along with nearly everyone else. On the no side were a few Ulstermen but also the leftwingers Tony Benn, Jeremy Corbyn, Ken Livingstone and Dennis Skinner, who I imagine had an objection to MPs being prohibited from accusing others of lying rather than much sympathy for Paisley.
He probably needed to get home to his wife. John Hume once said to him, "Ian, if the word 'no' were to be removed from the English language, you'd be speechless, wouldn't you!" Paisley replied, "No, I wouldn't!" (ಠ⌣ಠ)
hahaha
It is said that Ian Paisley did not speak Irish because Irish has no word for "no".
@@JoshDaJewishKid Maybe his wife Eileen kept saying no! and that's what has him in fowl humour!
@@paulkinsella6536 foul
@@shill700 For those of us who met both John Hume and Ian Paisley, none of those met our prejudices. That is why Northern Ireland is decent today. You should learn from Dr. Paisley. Get outside your box. John Hume did. Ian and John are long gone, and those around them. May they rest in peace.
Rest in peace Baroness Boothroyd. A great example of a strong intelligent and respected woman.
Cheddar Cheese and Pineapple ON A STICK!
a fosbury68 I HAVE MADE A LEGITIMATE AND PEACEFUL REQUEST MRS BENFIELD
YOU HAVE SINGLE-HANDEDLY DESTROYED THE SPIRIT OF ALL TRUE CHRISTIAN PEOPLE AT THIS SPECIAL TIME OF YEAR!
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@@brianm2881 bloody excellent!
YOU VILE HAG! :)
What an amazing presence Betty was in the house. The one steadfast voice of reason and fair exchange in a room full of spoilt jeering children.
Actually these MPs were markedly far more restrained than they have been more recently e,g, when John Bercow ejected Dennis Skinner, or when Lindsay Hoyle ejected Ian Blackford, Neale Hanvey and Kenny MacAskill.
Betty was a fantastic speaker
Ran Tothon true because when Michael Martin was speaker half the time he sounded like he was scared to say order and that he had no control over the house
Ian Paisley was better.
@@lordsnooty61 Ian Paisley was never the speaker.
Was? But she’s still alive.
many of these rules of behavior were made at a time when mps carried swords and sometimes even killed each other. if u look closely at the floor of the chamber u will see a red line in front of both front benches. the space in the middle of these lines is 2 sword lengths and members cannot cross that line. if a member does put his foot over the line the speaker would order them to " toe the line". thats where that phrase was invented.
I would have said fuck off🤣😂
This little gem of knowledge has proved being very elusive ..... I found it mentioned once in a German source out of all places and had never been able to verify it.
The line is not there in any paintings from the time. Also, this chamber was built long after mps brought swords.
@@helmuttholen6053 This is indeed a common misconception. Weapons weren't allowed into parliament from the early 1300s. The idea the width of the floor is two swordlengths (how long is a sword?) is a 'falsehood'.
@@darko264 so the red line is for visibly maintaining good order, but this does not imply weapons?
Boothroyd was a truly great speaker.
She had every right to throw him out without calling a division, but she gave the man every possible chance in recognition of the magnitude of the situation.
You wouldn't see many speakers do that.
@spareUmbrella far more dignified and eloquent than the current Burko sorry I do mean Bercow.
You need to keep the House free of horrifying threats particularly talking about the Troubles.
No, Boothroyd IS a truly great speaker. She is now 89 and sits in the House of Lords, here she is a few weeks ago -
ruclips.net/video/GrZFRVd-cX4/видео.html
@@Diamonddavej But she isn't speaker in the House of Commons anymore. Which means she *was* a great speaker.
@TheRenaissanceman65 No, Boothroyd IS a truly great orator, now in the House of Lords. She is now 89, here she is a few weeks ago -
ruclips.net/video/GrZFRVd-cX4/видео.html
Is that OK?
That intro. Can't believe someone took the time to make it.
Does anyone know what animated series that is from? That was awesome :)
@@josephquesnel1737 Knightmare.
The finest Speaker in my lifetime (70 years).
Whitherihall was quite witty in his time. I like watching the old speakers. Intellegent people all of them.
Betty Boothroyd reminds me of Betty Slocombe. Northern and a great hairdo.
And I am unanimous in that! 😁
@@TheCarnivalguy I see what you did there.
Political leaders don't appeal to me but I used to love listening to Ian paisley he used to speak his mind unlike most of the politicians .
Betty Boothroyd was a REAL Speaker. The last real Speaker in Westminster to date.
Martin was the best imo
@@wilsonfisk6626 Getting run out of office isn't much of a selling point.
@@pendorran Uh-duh Uh-duh I was being sarcastic.
@@wilsonfisk6626 Do it better
@@pendorran Uh-duh Uh-duh, allow the Prime Meanester to answer Uh-duh
Ah Betty the best speaker of The House ever.
Betty Boothroyd was an excellent speaker. Such authority and yet such reasonableness. As for Ian Paisley, I may disagree with some of the things he said, but I admire his strength of character, his willingness to stand up for what he believed in against all opposition and his great oratory skills.
I think you sum up Mr Paisley perfectly
Michael Hester I disagree with some of his religious and political views, but he had some nice personality which should not be overlooked.
There was a character in Germany in the 20s and 30s who had strength of character, a great willingness to stand up for what he believed in against all opposition, and undeniably great oratory skills. Did you admire him too?
Arthur Pewtey Paisley stood up for law and order. Not murder and mayhem.
He was certainly a powerful speaker. I heard him preach in his church once.
My understanding, from reading "Inside the House of Commons," by John Biffen, is that after the Speaker has "named" someone, a vote to exclude is required, but is perfunctory. What is interesting that Paisley apparently has enough support that the House was not willing to give automatic support to the Speaker and thereby force a division. Biffen served as Leader of the House under Thatcher, and it is the Leader of the House who makes the (usually) perfunctory motion to exclude. In his book, he says that he assumed he would have to use the motion against Paisley someday, but he never had to. According to Biffen, the "naming" procedure arose in the 1880's, as a way to deal with disruptions by MPs advocating Irish independence.
The republic of ireland are already independent
@@DaRealist7 yes but they were not back in the 1800s which was the period in question.
“the “naming” procedure arose in the 1880’s, as a way to deal with disruptions by MPs advocating Irish Independence”
And this video, the Naming process is used AGAINST an - not - THE Ulster Unionist.
Irony is not to be missed here.
Rest in Peace, Betty. You will be deeply missed deep down in our hearts.
This is a masterful performance by Betty Boothroyd. Martin and Bercow can't hold a candle to her.
Betty Bigtits ?
The lady was the best speaker the House of Commons could wish for. She treated him with respect. You have to hand it to him...he was indeed a man of strong conviction.
Amen
His conviction was deserving of no respect
@@Axel-hw6hk You got that right. They called him Dr. Paisley. He got his PHD from Bob Jones University in the US; it lost its tax exemption because it would not admit people of color.
He incited violence and hatred, doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as a true democrat.
R.i.p Betty 1929 - 2023
MESSUS BUNFIELD!
I have made a peaceful and legitimate request for pineapple and cheddar cheese on a stick!
betty boothroyd - what a woman!
she certainly understood the need to keep the benches in line.
Baroness Boothroyd was one of the single best Speakers ever to lead the House of Commons. She was tough but fair, open minded but no nonsense. She was an expert at handling the wild energies of the Commons, and knew when to let the House blow off steam and when to rein them in. She took no one’s crap and made sure everyone knew that she was in charge, but always did so in a way that didn’t chafe with the membership.
Both of them were great parliamentarians from a generation that will be sorely missed.
R I P Betty Boothroyd,She was legendary .
Betty Bigtits ?
Betty was the best speaker of modern times
I kinda respect the guy for sticking by what he said
read about "the guy" a bit.....
@@johnegan6313 Yes, he was quite the bastard.
If any one person in Northern Ireland exacerbated the conflict in that Provence it was Ian Paisley. He claimed to speak for the people of Northern Ireland but the truth is he didn't even speak for the majority of unionists let alone any Catholics. I shed no tears when that man passed away.
@@celticlofts well said
He was reviled by almost everyone, on both sides.
I'm and Scottish with irish descent and while I would never agree with Ian paisley, I have to admit that he was a truly powerful person and powerful speaker and was one of very few unionist MPs I had respect for
Sam Griffenhaven McKinlay why do you lot love him so much I don't get it cos he's a MAN
@TheRenaissanceman65: Narcissists usually do.
Why mention you’re irish ancestry? Nothing whatsoever to do with this.
He was a bigot who incited loyalist terrorists and then washed his hands of their actions.
@@DaRealist7 What is wrong with expressing your Irish roots as part of the United Kingdom? Where do you think you got that diagonal red cross in your flag from?!
Eyes to the right, nose to the left! Sounds like a Picasso to me!
Ayes (yesses, assents) to the right (of the Speaker, ie the side that the Govt sits), noes (dissents) to the left (ie where the Opposition sits). Simple.
@@bordershader
Wooosh.
@@fds7476 There's this really cool thing nowadays where if you're unsure or confused or don't know something, you can type in a question and get loads of answers to help. It's called a "search engine", you should try it, it's really quite something. Unfortunately it does involve having this other thing called a Brain, which might be harder to come by, as they're not available in a shop or something.
@@bordershader
Woooooosh.
@@bordershader You realise Steven was joking, right?
At least he stood by his words.... I give him respect for that
What he did was wrong when he was in the house
Rules are rules
@@anthonymullen6300 And yet he never killed anyone.
@@RandomnessTube. yeah..... but like.....you know "he didn't kill anybody"... dumb !
@@anthonymullen6300 Well that goes for anybody non convicted doesn't it? if you have any evidence bring it forward to the authorities you moron.
yes, you are correct. Suspension is simply that. Being named involves suspension and loss of pay, 5 days for a first offence. If the speaker names an MP, a vote is then held for the house to decide if they are suspended. If the aye/no is unclear, a division is then held. A more dramatic one happened when John McDonnell was named for wielding the ceremonial mace. The great Sir Alan Hazelhurst was in the chair for that one.
At least paisley had a spine unlike many in that place, he said it, he mean't it, he never went back on it.
The speakers chair, our top left where the leather is sticking up slightly. Its still sticking up today!
It's the strap which holds part of the sound system so the Speaker can hear what is being said
thanks for providing this clip. the opening bit was a bit stupid though
I admire this guys passion, a man who stands by his people. Unlike the sold out useless MP’s of today.....
I'm guessing you didn't get your unicorn?
Typical bleating right-wing knuckle-dragging Neanderthal bigot.
I adore watching British politics in action! Truly fascinating stuff, thank you for all your postings.
Anytime I feel down, I watch this.
The man who started it all just to say yes at the end of it all, why did he put all of thought it?
So that he could bring recognition to the principle of why he was being thrown out. Essentially, escalating the status of his act of martyrdom in a way.
He was possessed.
Question is....was the Sec of State a liar?
Did his lips move?
He undoubtedly was.
I suppose he was, he wasnt the most suitable at the time
NI never had a secretary of state that told the truth ever 😂
It is always impressive how she deals with conflict, in such a proper way.
Lol he still calls her "Madam Deputy Speaker"
He immediately corrected himself.
@@karldelavigne8134 he made the mistake twice
Why the searing music, from the outset? Adjust the volume before watching this........
Why were Paisley, Peter Robinson and William McCrea of the DUP sitting on the government benches in 1993?
IntenationalistOnTheRight They typically voted with the Tories, and on any occasion Major's govt was up against it in a tight vote he would rely upon the Unionists of NI to carry the vote.
And why not?
@@DaRealist7 they weren’t the government party
I have made , an legitimate request for cheddar cheese and pineapple on a stick !!!
commodore665 hahaha brilliant
and you have trambled on my demands, contemptuously!!!!!
Nobody wishes for Pizza more than I, but to have your pizza forced upon us...
Paisley had true passion. Betty was an epic speaker, too.
Paisley was a bigot !
For Hundreds of years my community has enjoyed Cheddar cheese and Pineapple on a stick!
Why the knightmare game show titles?
there is no great reason other than its a bit of a gimmick for my channel. i made a mock MGM intro a few years ago with thatcher as the MGM lion. after a while i figured out how to make a few others and it just went on from there. iv got about 60 different intros now. everything from mrs thatcher as donkey kong to spiderman or a spice girl.... and knightmare.
***** Ok.
***** They're legendary intros. It's 50% of the reason why I watch these videos.
+rectorman1 merica
+rectorman1 It was better than the rest of the vid
Too bad they don't do this in the US Congress...
Rev Dr Paisley...just one word..he was a GREAT Man
Aye he was love his books
paisley stood by what he said outside the house of commons and put up one hell of an argument, the secretary of state was a lying bastard, if anything he should've resigned
Agreed. Reverend Paisley fought for what he believed in & wasn't afraid to stand up in & up to the House & speak his mind. R.I.P Dr (Reverend) Ian Paisley - you are & always will be a legend.
yes he believed in bigotry just as well nobody gave him the time of day..he did change his tune as he got older shame he did not see the light sooner
He was a hateful monster who brought up a generation of bigots
An utter hate filled and hateful hypocrite. @@cyclewithpride
love a bit of betty
This guy gave me nightmares when I was young, his 'never never never' speech made me crap myself and I'm not even Irish 🍀
And yet he was the man who worked for peace at the end. Amazing story.
He’s not irish either, neither are any of us in Northern Ireland 😡
I'm from northern Ireland and not Irish
@@DaRealist7 You can identify as either Irish or British in Northern Ireland
B oh really? I didn’t know that! (Sarcasm). I live here, I know!!! Northern Ireland is what makes the UK, the UK. We’re BRITISH. Simple as that.
yes. its one of the rules for paliamentry behavior. im guessing its a rule because if it were not then the mps would call each other liers all the time. also its probably to help stop members becoming so angry with each other that fights start. even though the house seems very rude at times there are several rules about what they can say in anger. if it becomes too personal or hateful the speaker will call them to order
Rest in Peace Betty Boothroyd
The secretary of state *WAS* lying though ;)
Twas a Tory so
@@SuperCatman and Labour never lied about talking to the IRA either, of course 🙈
Ay well I'm a Scot so I don't vote either
Ian is actually ok i am a Catholic from Dublin with a strong working class Irish accent and he was cool with me we spoke years ago for about half an hour he has a great sense of humor too..you must remember how things were in Ireland back then and you will understand why he was so dogged in his politics
OK lake, how are you son? You're a Catholic from Dublin, good man, and I take that point you've made there. Considering the way things were in Ireland back then as you say, he is the sort of person you don't need in any era or conflicting situation. That man's a nutter, an absolute raving nutcase with an awful lot of blood on his hands. The kind of person the World can do without son, because he wouldn't make anything better. Still, take it easy.
How is things anyway up there in Mars??
drunkest man What's your point simpleton? I never met Hitler but i know someone who thought he was a nice guy.........
He founded a terrorist group called Ulster Resistance, but bailed out when they were caught with a load of guns, this man is pure evil and you are pure simple......
drunkest man You made a point? When? what? you are the drunkest man!
What a man he was, stood for his principles and his people and religion, you do not see his like anymore, what characters Northern Ireland created
Yes he did but treated the Catholics in northern Ireland badly didn't want them to have a vote housing or rights
@@patrickmadden6234 I don't blame him. The catholic church is mystery babylon after all.
Great history. Thanks for providing it.
Should have replaced Kinnock, she would have been a very strong, honest and reliable leader of the labour party.
Too old at the time.
RIP headphone users.
Paisley stood his ground - Good Man
I'm a republican but I can't help but respect the man. Stood by what he said. Fair play.
Betty boothroyd protecting british military intelligence from enquiry, The troubles were orchestrated from jesuit controlled kallergiist Whitehall,
Me too I'm Catholic but respect other peoples viewpoints
>is a republican
>has Joseph Chamberlain as pfp
Nah, he doesn't show respect. He's an MP and refused a request from the speaker to withdrawal his comment, then refused an order to leave. Thats disrespect. Cant offer respect to a person that has none.
Unionist but respect to you
well the man had principles and stood up for his community.
Betty was fantastic and so was Dr Paisley in his way.
My only complaint about Betty was she used the words honourable - Dr and Ian Paisley in the same sentence !
Betty so much wanted to give him a second chance
And not the words of one who kneels, i've heard it all and i stood tall, and did it MY way!!
I loved Ian Paisley's sermons.
Yes, they are great. I had lunch with him in 2001.
Living them ae we, or just poppering up and getting off?
If you like Ian Paisley's sermons then you will love John Doerr's sermons.
@@anniegrath1417 He's never given a hate speech
@@agornath1 eh??? You’ve got to be joking! Try 1988 in the European Parliament Paisley’ s outburst to Pope John Paul “I denounce you as the antichrist” also held up placard with the same venom written on it.
Edward Heath used the word "falsehoods" and didn't get chucked out..
Different speaker though.
I like how she manages to make "order" sound like "shut up!"
I have no idea what is going on. How do you play this game?
You pretend that you care to get yourself elected, then change your mind again and again to toady up to people higher up the greasy pole until you get a promotion. It's called politics (or hypocrisy)...
I'm as far from Thatcherism as one can be, but your content (as well as hillarious intros) are always worthy a watch
RIP Betty Boothroyd 1929-2023
This is quite beautiful
Betty Boothroyd was brilliant! The reverend is polite to her even when she gives him the red card! 😂😀👍🏻
nothing 'reverend' about him
He was a powerful speaker.
He was indeed. A tremendous wanker too. At least if his sons are to be believed.
Most 'great' people are flawed. Churchill was a drunk, Kennedy was a compulsive womanizer, etc.
He could vocally rip the whole Commons Chamber apart, but he was too constrained by it's stuffy conformity.
Armed Brit
Ian Paisley was far from great. Ian Paisley was a bigot.
So speaketh another IRA fanboy.
All he wanted was cheddar cheese and pineapple on a stick
For how long was the suspension? Just the day's sitting, I assume.
You are correct
I have requested a peaceful and legitimate request to the people in Northern Ireland for cheddar cheese & pineapple on a stick!
Betty's better than Bercow.
Betty is a legend!
I think you’ll find it’s "didn’t speak like that",your English is terrible! And you don’t know the meaning of the word snob! This is very evident from the choice of wording and structure of your reply!
Someone else's sexual preferences are of no concern to me! Whatever takes place between 2 consenting adults of sound mind is NOONE ELSE'S business! Now who's being a snob?(judging others unfairly is a form of snobbery!)
I couldn't care less where Betty is from or about her sexual preferences! Sometimes one's way of speaking has to be modified due to different regional accents. Eg. A Geordie in London would have to speak clearly so would a Cockney in Glasgow and vice versa! Due to this your point is not valid! Snobs assume some sort of moral superiority over others regardless of upbringing or class(which I don't believe in!) Your posts have shown a form of snobbery,inverted or otherwise!
What on earth does it matter what her sexual preferences were and what her accent was like? She was a great speaker, surely that's what we should judge her on. I don't think there's any real evidence she is a lesbian but it wouldn't matter if she was. You call her a snob (with no basis) but seem happy to be a homophobe yourself. I think it's you that is the problem here.
He knew he had lost that one, the Speaker sought to keep him there after he had made his point good and true. Why insist at all at that point?
What a powerful woman.
Ian Paisley is a man.
Another thing learned about the House of Commons, how you can be suspended by a vote from your peers. Unthinkable in Germany, where the respective state's and federal parliament president would do that in private session at most. The most your MP peers can do in Germany is vote on the parliament floor to suspend your immunity, not to suspend you outright.
It’s only for the day.
Dr Paisley flirted with Nazism. You keep shtum and watch after 40.
@@londoncalling151 I didn't know that, plus I wasn't talking about Dr. Paisley, I was talking about how the Speaker of the House of Commons can suspend someone from Parliament without having a debate and a vote on that. Just talking about the difference between two parliamentary systems.
I have made a peaceful and legitimate request for pineapple and cheese on stick
yes he did claim that and many many other things.
im not exactly sure but i think when the speaker asks them to leave they are banned from the building for that day.
if the refuse to leave then the speaker "names" them and a vote is held and if the commons agrees then they will be ejected and banned for 4 or 5 days.
i think pay is also suspended.
When did Standing Order 42 become Standing Order 43?
She'd been speaker for over a year and a half and he still kept calling her deputy speaker 😂
What a legend Dr Paisley was. Unionism lost a great representative.
Stephen Carroll and the provos lost a great recruiter...
Where are such men now in Ulster?
A me feinner like his son horrible human being
did he comment on the Waco fire? or did he have a staunch opinion of fringe religion?
How true a great witness for Christ and Truth too. Bible Crown and Union. From Scotland.
A preacher of the Gospel, safe in the arms of Jesus.
How often do they actually have to call a division on the question of a suspension?
Lytrigian If someone calls for a division then a division has to be called so I would suspect that 90% of the motion to suspend will be followed by a division. In Australia every time someone is named they will always have a division no matter what. In Australia we have Standing Order 94(a) which allows the Speaker to 'sin bin' a member for 1 hour to calm them down. Naming an MP is a rare and serious matter.
Gary Wright In Westminster they have a voice vote each time, but this is the only video I've seen on YT of someone being named in Commons where the speaker actually called for a division. Which is why I asked.
Lytrigian Understood ... yes they do have a voice vote but the option is there under the standing orders for a division ... I guess this video is the most famous one of someone being named. It would be interesting to research your question direct from the Commons Library.
Gary Wright There's always a need for a division when the voice vote is unclear, or where members insist on one. I don't see that the vote to suspend a member is unique in that.
Lytrigian With only 25 voting not to suspend, those 25 must have awfully loud voices, to make the voice vote so unclear that a division was required. What is the minimum number of members needed to force a division?
Although Ian Paisley should complied with the order to withdraw, that aside I thought he was very restrained in what he said. Those criticiisng him below should bear in mind how his later role as First Minister demonstrated that he was a far more complex person than his image suggested.
Paisley was a hatemongering piece of shit!
Betty Boothroyd did not suspend Ian Paisley; the House suspended him.
Not the Lords as this is the House of Commons but that is splitting hairs.
A naming very rarely goes to a formal vote as MPs tend not to which to challenge the chair on this issue. Once when a division was called no one would act as tellers for the 'no' side as such the 'ayes' won with out a vote as it was seen as the 'nos' not having any support.
lol. she makes almost any clip awesome.
Wow, burst my eardrums! Be careful if you have headphones on when you open this! Ouch!
Did he get carried out like at Stormount?
He's in Heaven now. God bless him.
More like hell rotting
oh why is that? Cos he didn't kiss John Paul's ass?
If there is a god that BASTARD will be burning in hell.
Paisley was quite the bigot on occasions.
On this occasion I'm certain he was calling a LIE a Lie!
The DUP accepts the Tory Whip.
Former PM Edward Heath reading the vote.
I can see the resemblance but the voice isn't right, so I've just checked this in Hansard. Tellers for the ayes were David Lightbown (Heath lookalike) and Sydney Chapman. For the noes Peter Robinson and William McCrea, though that looks like David Trimble (who voted no) stood at the table.
Heath voted aye along with nearly everyone else. On the no side were a few Ulstermen but also the leftwingers Tony Benn, Jeremy Corbyn, Ken Livingstone and Dennis Skinner, who I imagine had an objection to MPs being prohibited from accusing others of lying rather than much sympathy for Paisley.
The speaker reminds me of the lady in "Are You Being Served", the one who always talked about her cat.
Mrs. Slocombe. LOL
@@ieronymos9265 "Are You Being Served" was always a good laugh
so , if someone wants to accuse another of lying , what words do they use ?
I suppose you can't because its "unparliamentary". BULLSHIT
This is the way to show respect in times when we agree to disagree. Some leaders could learn a good lesson here.
Christ she was bloody great