Just wanna say that when echo was gone, it made me appreciate him more. Having a non military guy on the podcast, gives many of us someone whom we can relate to, not having been in the military, let alone combat. Welcome back skinny knees, we missed ya
So much untold history, the military community stands on the shoulders of GIANTS. Outstanding episode, It's amazing to me how much we don't know. The Vietnam era created super soldiers. One of my top 10 favorite episodes to date. Tim Kennedy episode hands down one of my favorites
@@budgibson185 It was men like Tim Kennedy that saved this sorry Marine when my cap got peeled during an ambush (GSW skull 2007) Afghanistan. Mr. Kennedy represents the evolution of the Nam Era and stand on the shoulders of GIANTS that came before him (Alive Day 5-27-07) USMC RECON Med Retired
Amazing stories. I help take care of my 72 year old uncle, Vietnam veteran. I'm greatly appreciative for that generation. I am also greatful for the greatest generation. Thanks to our heroes.
This was a GREAT episode. This is the first video where Jack asked all the questions related to “points of reference” I ask every time I hear about these legendary battles. That’s the hardest part of hearing the stories is having absolutely no point of reference for what’s happening where, and how it all looks from the pilots perspective.
My father was 18 yrs old ....30 caliber water cooled machine gun in Korea in a frozen hole in the ground. Their positions / Hill got over ran by wave after wave of North Koreans. His assistant machine gunner best friend got shot through the forehead and died gurgling in my father's arms my dad fired his machine gun until he ran out of ammo they were throwing grenades in his hole he was throwing them back out he eventually got shot in the face and riddled with shrapnel from grenades..the hill got captured..the Koreans thought he was dead...the next day Americans re took the hill and found my father barely alive...he woke up on a hospital ship to france...he got a silver star for not leaving his position..the citation says the ground in front of his machine gun was littered was hundreds of dead koreans....my father says they were so close the stuffing from their jackets was was blowing around him like snow falling....he use to get drunk and cry and tell that story...his asst machine gunner was named CRIBBY...this went down by the chosin resevoir
Chosin was a frozen wasteland and infested with Chinese elements as well. Just some of the toughest fighting guys could ever imagine. Freezing cold, waves and waves of enemy.My heroes do not wear capes. My Hero is your father. Hooyah.
I remember a Vietnamese boy that was in my Martial Arts class years ago. We were both kids, 14ish. His father was very serious, never smiled. Not angry, but looked hardened. The boy was quiet but friendly. I really liked him. The father was a Colonel in the Vietnamese Army. Because he helped the U.S., he had to flee with his family when the south fell. A few months after they arrived, their daughter, 17ish, was murdered. That's when the son began training in Martial Arts. Those that fought against the North definitely had hardships after the war.
Jocko Willink is a blessed human to be able to sit and talk and get to know these amazing Americans. I appreciate the respect and admiration he shows them. This podcast was great!
Superb episode amongst many superb ones. Jocko you have an ideal style when you read from guests' books, full of reverence and drama. Just adds an extra layer of awesomeness to your show. 👍
As the son of a Canadian USMC Vietnam veteran I am ao thankful for Jocko and this podcast the RESPECT and time given to the Vietnam vets to tell these incredible stories is so greatly appreciated.
As a indigenous handi-capable woman of color who's pronouns are she and they, I just love when people feel the need to preface their post with who they are, that shows credibility, and maybe next time we get your pronouns too.
We need more people like this man and John Stryker Meijer, write the books that tell the history of units or battles lest we forget, as the saying goes, remember your past lest you want to repeat it.
Returning guest. I still remember the day, many years ago, when I listened to Cornel Reeder's first appearance on Jocko's podcast, it was shocking and real. Thank you for coming back.
Colonel Nguyễn Đình Bảo is a legend to the South Vietnamese. A very popular poem and song “người ở lại charlie” was made in his honor. Crazy to see his story on Jocko Podcast.
A lot of folks give the SVN soldiers/troops a lot of crap for a lack of willingness to fight. It isn't true to be honest. Many of them had fought the communist heathens since '45 and many of them came here to the USA, with sponsorship from their old advisors and American troopers they served with.
No exaggeration, this is arguably the most harrowing, riviting, razors edge crazy story out of 342 episodes of the Jocko podcast. Tell me an episode # with has a story that's crazier or just as nuts as this one here.. 75 130mm artillery shells on ur head on an hour n that's as an apitizer. Praire 🔥 stories are like the size of outterspace: just inconceivable to the feeble human mind..
@@macgriggs9350 yeah as long as he aint narrating it. Somebody really did him a disservice by not sacking up and letting him have it with a cold bucket of honesty.. some people got it and some don't. Stryker just wasn't blessed with the i can read out loud skills. Takes nothing off his character but he don't got it I wanted to buy his audibles obviously cuz Mac V SOG shit like across the fence is just about as hardcore As It Gets yes it's on par with this guy's yarn right here but damn Striker ain't got Jocko's narrating chops. God bless him..
What these dudes said...Dick the terminator Thompson and stryker Meyer stories. Both were SOG and have been on multiple times. Those are intense and some of my favorite podcasts Jocko has had. Not just because of the stories but the wisdom and lessons those men bring to the table. Stryker myer also brought on some of his buddies to the podcast a couple times.
Literally just went back and watched the first pod with Bill yesterday, great surprise today to realise hes actually been on twice! Inspirational story, I love his attitude despite what he went through
I just looked up John Duffy he finally got his unbelievably deserving Medal of Honor from President Biden July 5 2022. This guy was a hero 10 times over.
I'm sure he didn't do anything and someone from his staff made the suggestion it would make him appeal to military members because his approval rating is trash and he treated military protecting him and his broken helo like dirt and shit on them
So many excellent podcasts courtesy of Jocko, but this one stands out. Two leaders, two historians, two articulate enthusiasts of their trade come together perfectly in this episode. Brilliant, captivating, impossible to not watch. Thank you Jocko for the time and effort you put into every episode, especially ones like this that pay tribute to old warriors in a profession where men die young.
I was alive, born 59. In blue ridge mtns. Tip top of WVA. Old enough to know these brothers were dying for the Brown family in CA, monopolizing on the purest oil in world in gulf of Viet Nam. Governor Brown made law that CA could only use oil the purity of what they owned in Viet Nam. Crazy but true. To this day CA’s oil started from gulf of Nam. My words are not to in any way discredit these amazing awesome American Hero’s. Such Valor and Strength. My heart is for these men who were deceived to make the Brown CA Gov family rich and powerful tob this day. I salute all Americans who did their duty.
"There is no courage without fear." I'm not sure who said that first, but I know that it is true. Courage is what you do in the face of fear. The level of fear these guys had to have had, and what they accomplished in spite, is a measure of the extreme and extraordinary courage that they had. I have been in some very small engagements and a couple of full on, short duration firefights, and the level of fear I had to overcome pales in comparison to what these men experienced. I can't even imagine. The level of respect I have for them is beyond measure and description. Thank you Jocko.
It can not be said enough. The first Jocko podcast with Bill Reeder is 100% must listen stuff. Arguably the best one of the 340+ do yourself a favor and get that one fired up.
such an opportunity for PERSPECTIVE and GRATITUDE to those who fought and died for freedom and liberty, just bewildering to watch so many competing on who can give it all up the mostest and fastest. Ashamed to admit it, but i am discouraged , frightened even confused by what i see happening
How is this Charlie Hill battle in Vietnam story not picked to become a movie yet?! Of produced well this future Charlie Hill battle movie would easily become a classic Vietnam era movie.
Thank you for your amazing stories and wisdom! We admire your service, courage, & for your service sir, not from the military myself but my dad was so you are so inspiring!
I wish Jocko would use his west coast influence and try to get someone like Oliver Stone or Stephen Spielberg to do an awesome movie or mini series about Mac V Sog. It would be amazing and they deserve it!
After every video I watch I’m always thankful you have the platform you do. This is the best content I’ve ever found I have changed the way I live since I started listening, I demand better of myself and those around me.
Someone, like a real actual person, took in the accounts from this battle and consciously downgraded this man’s award from Vietnam and it wasn’t fixed until LAST YEAR. Glad this man got the recognition while still alive, he certainly deserved absolutely all of it. Agree with Jocko that person certainly shouldn’t have been doing that job
51 cal were devastating we ran into them in August of 67 we had one gunship hit a round hit the door gunner in the another hit by the tail rotor these were uh1bs and c gunships all we had were m60s
Such a crazy fight, I certainly never heard of. It was such an insane notion that over 400 guys could hold that against all the NVA there, but they probably took out 1000s and held 2 weeks. Even in the escape of over 100 guys, only 5 of them got extracted via the helicopters then 30 stragglers luckily got out by walking.
I read Mark Bowden's book about the battle of Hue. The 1st. Air Cav. was coming in to back up the Marines, but at one point got pinned down by NVA mortar fire. I'm, to this day, kind of angry with Bowden for his description of how some extremely unfortunate air mobile grunt, who was taking shelter in his foxhole, took a direct hit from a mortar round. Bowden described how this soldier was "plumed." I know it isn't Bowden's fault, but for some reason I'm still pissed off about this description of the death of an American soldier. Probably just frustration and grief on my part...the entire battle of Hue generated similar emotions in general. Extremely frustrating and heartbreaking.
Sir, I am wondering if you ever served with Charles Davis? special forces group 5 1961-1965. Also served with special forces 6th and 7th groups. Served 2 more tours in 67 amd 69-70. He served as advisor for montyards. And in later tours served with 17th Calvary.
Please never kick echo off, unless there’s a good reason of course but I can’t see that happening. I hate it when you have a podcast with two “hosts” and the less prominent one gets the boot. The Mike Tyson podcast is a good example. Great ep today though, love hearing about all these cool people and their stories.
Just wanna say that when echo was gone, it made me appreciate him more. Having a non military guy on the podcast, gives many of us someone whom we can relate to, not having been in the military, let alone combat. Welcome back skinny knees, we missed ya
So much untold history, the military community stands on the shoulders of GIANTS. Outstanding episode, It's amazing to me how much we don't know. The Vietnam era created super soldiers. One of my top 10 favorite episodes to date. Tim Kennedy episode hands down one of my favorites
Cmon! Tim is one of your favorites with all these Vietnam warriors he’s had on?
@@budgibson185 It was men like Tim Kennedy that saved this sorry Marine when my cap got peeled during an ambush (GSW skull 2007) Afghanistan. Mr. Kennedy represents the evolution of the Nam Era and stand on the shoulders of GIANTS that came before him
(Alive Day 5-27-07) USMC RECON Med Retired
I love when Jocko gets the Veterans on, some of my favourite podcasts
I think he only has vets on
Amazing stories. I help take care of my 72 year old uncle, Vietnam veteran. I'm greatly appreciative for that generation. I am also greatful for the greatest generation. Thanks to our heroes.
Woohoo!
Echo Charles is back!
Good evening, Echo.
Thank you Echo!
Thank you Jocko!
Thank you Mr. Reeder!
This was a GREAT episode. This is the first video where Jack asked all the questions related to “points of reference” I ask every time I hear about these legendary battles. That’s the hardest part of hearing the stories is having absolutely no point of reference for what’s happening where, and how it all looks from the pilots perspective.
My father was 18 yrs old ....30 caliber water cooled machine gun in Korea in a frozen hole in the ground. Their positions / Hill got over ran by wave after wave of North Koreans. His assistant machine gunner best friend got shot through the forehead and died gurgling in my father's arms my dad fired his machine gun until he ran out of ammo they were throwing grenades in his hole he was throwing them back out he eventually got shot in the face and riddled with shrapnel from grenades..the hill got captured..the Koreans thought he was dead...the next day Americans re took the hill and found my father barely alive...he woke up on a hospital ship to france...he got a silver star for not leaving his position..the citation says the ground in front of his machine gun was littered was hundreds of dead koreans....my father says they were so close the stuffing from their jackets was was blowing around him like snow falling....he use to get drunk and cry and tell that story...his asst machine gunner was named CRIBBY...this went down by the chosin resevoir
Your father is a hero and a legend . Total respect !
God bless your father. I can’t imagine the stuff guys seen, especially in wars of the past
Chosin was a frozen wasteland and infested with Chinese elements as well. Just some of the toughest fighting guys could ever imagine. Freezing cold, waves and waves of enemy.My heroes do not wear capes. My Hero is your father. Hooyah.
What a fkn story!
What a wild story thanks for sharing
I remember a Vietnamese boy that was in my Martial Arts class years ago. We were both kids, 14ish. His father was very serious, never smiled. Not angry, but looked hardened. The boy was quiet but friendly. I really liked him.
The father was a Colonel in the Vietnamese Army. Because he helped the U.S., he had to flee with his family when the south fell. A few months after they arrived, their daughter, 17ish, was murdered. That's when the son began training in Martial Arts.
Those that fought against the North definitely had hardships after the war.
70,000 of these Vietnamese came to my hometown of 250,000. What do you think that did to our once decent city in California.
This was all planned
I was waiting for this. Respect from Romania. Welcome back Echo.
Where was echo??
@@bid_wacker we
Good evening.
Jocko Willink is a blessed human to be able to sit and talk and get to know these amazing Americans. I appreciate the respect and admiration he shows them. This podcast was great!
Superb episode amongst many superb ones. Jocko you have an ideal style when you read from guests' books, full of reverence and drama. Just adds an extra layer of awesomeness to your show. 👍
As the son of a Canadian USMC Vietnam veteran I am ao thankful for Jocko and this podcast the RESPECT and time given to the Vietnam vets to tell these incredible stories is so greatly appreciated.
As a indigenous handi-capable woman of color who's pronouns are she and they, I just love when people feel the need to preface their post with who they are, that shows credibility, and maybe next time we get your pronouns too.
First episode was incredible. Welcome back, Mr. Reeder!
We need more people like this man and John Stryker Meijer, write the books that tell the history of units or battles lest we forget, as the saying goes, remember your past lest you want to repeat it.
And dick Thompson
Returning guest. I still remember the day, many years ago, when I listened to Cornel Reeder's first appearance on Jocko's podcast, it was shocking and real. Thank you for coming back.
Colonel Nguyễn Đình Bảo is a legend to the South Vietnamese. A very popular poem and song “người ở lại charlie” was made in his honor.
Crazy to see his story on Jocko Podcast.
A lot of folks give the SVN soldiers/troops a lot of crap for a lack of willingness to fight. It isn't true to be honest. Many of them had fought the communist heathens since '45 and many of them came here to the USA, with sponsorship from their old advisors and American troopers they served with.
No exaggeration, this is arguably the most harrowing, riviting, razors edge crazy story out of 342 episodes of the Jocko podcast. Tell me an episode # with has a story that's crazier or just as nuts as this one here.. 75 130mm artillery shells on ur head on an hour n that's as an apitizer. Praire 🔥 stories are like the size of outterspace: just inconceivable to the feeble human mind..
The one about Dick Thompson was wild too
Almost any story john stryker meyer tells
@@macgriggs9350 yeah as long as he aint narrating it. Somebody really did him a disservice by not sacking up and letting him have it with a cold bucket of honesty.. some people got it and some don't. Stryker just wasn't blessed with the i can read out loud skills. Takes nothing off his character but he don't got it I wanted to buy his audibles obviously cuz Mac V SOG shit like across the fence is just about as hardcore As It Gets yes it's on par with this guy's yarn right here but damn Striker ain't got Jocko's narrating chops. God bless him..
What these dudes said...Dick the terminator Thompson and stryker Meyer stories. Both were SOG and have been on multiple times. Those are intense and some of my favorite podcasts Jocko has had. Not just because of the stories but the wisdom and lessons those men bring to the table. Stryker myer also brought on some of his buddies to the podcast a couple times.
Every story has its own unique situation and can’t be compared to the other. The SOG stories are wild but then also Dakota Meyer’s story in Ganjgal
Literally just went back and watched the first pod with Bill yesterday, great surprise today to realise hes actually been on twice! Inspirational story, I love his attitude despite what he went through
Heart breaking and amazingly sobering recounting of a hellacious period. Well executed by all.
I just looked up John Duffy he finally got his unbelievably deserving Medal of Honor from President Biden July 5 2022. This guy was a hero 10 times over.
I'm sure he didn't do anything and someone from his staff made the suggestion it would make him appeal to military members because his approval rating is trash and he treated military protecting him and his broken helo like dirt and shit on them
Was on live lol
@@georgecoull1883 you ARE INSANE! Any who knows John Duffy knows what kinda warrior and man he is!
@@budgibson185
What a fantastic podcast and an amazing tale of heroism
Side note: I could listen to Jocko read tales of valor all day.
So many excellent podcasts courtesy of Jocko, but this one stands out. Two leaders, two historians, two articulate enthusiasts of their trade come together perfectly in this episode. Brilliant, captivating, impossible to not watch. Thank you Jocko for the time and effort you put into every episode, especially ones like this that pay tribute to old warriors in a profession where men die young.
We can't begin to understand or comprehend the fear and anxiety these heros felt. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN! God speed 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🎬
The Vietnamese King Bee pilots who supported SOG were also bad ass courageous. John Stryker Meyer talks about them alot in his books .
Incredible stories! Thank you Jocko!! I wish I could salute all those men.
I was alive, born 59. In blue ridge mtns. Tip top of WVA.
Old enough to know these brothers were dying for the Brown family in CA, monopolizing on the purest oil in world in gulf of Viet Nam. Governor Brown made law that CA could only use oil the purity of what they owned in Viet Nam. Crazy but true.
To this day CA’s oil started from gulf of Nam.
My words are not to in any way discredit these amazing awesome American Hero’s. Such Valor and Strength.
My heart is for these men who were deceived to make the Brown CA Gov family rich and powerful tob this day.
I salute all Americans who did their duty.
"There is no courage without fear."
I'm not sure who said that first, but I know that it is true.
Courage is what you do in the face of fear.
The level of fear these guys had to have had, and what they accomplished in spite, is a measure of the extreme and extraordinary courage that they had.
I have been in some very small engagements and a couple of full on, short duration firefights, and the level of fear I had to overcome pales in comparison to what these men experienced. I can't even imagine.
The level of respect I have for them is beyond measure and description.
Thank you Jocko.
Just bought About Face. Jocko's foreword was incredible.
He liischo in it
It can not be said enough. The first Jocko podcast with Bill Reeder is 100% must listen stuff. Arguably the best one of the 340+ do yourself a favor and get that one fired up.
I would listen to Jocko Audiobooks... his voice and tempo are perfect for reading combat action.
such an opportunity for PERSPECTIVE and GRATITUDE to those who fought and died for freedom and liberty, just bewildering to watch so many competing on who can give it all up the mostest and fastest. Ashamed to admit it, but i am discouraged , frightened even confused by what i see happening
These Vietnam stories are incredible.
Awesome podcast. Actually thought Duffy and Lay was going to bite the big one. So glad they made it out to gravy land.
How is this Charlie Hill battle in Vietnam story not picked to become a movie yet?! Of produced well this future Charlie Hill battle movie would easily become a classic Vietnam era movie.
Thank you for your amazing stories and wisdom! We admire your service, courage, & for your service sir, not from the military myself but my dad was so you are so inspiring!
Thank ypu Colonel William Reader. Appreciate the wisdom.
Just when you think these cannot get any better. Jocko comes through with one that hits like a Cobra Gun Run. Thank you.
How does this not have 4 million views? 🇺🇸
Nice! I just (finally) finished the Tim Kennedy ep. Now...a Nam edition?!? Let's go!
Thank you all of you.
I wish Jocko would use his west coast influence and try to get someone like Oliver Stone or Stephen Spielberg to do an awesome movie or mini series about Mac V Sog. It would be amazing and they deserve it!
Or better yet, bypass the murky sewer of Hollywood altogether and work with the Daily Wire to create an action packed masterpiece.
look i was in with Duffy in Nam…and one thing the podcast leaves out is how much he LOVED THE LADY BOYS!
Im hyped for this episode the first one was intense.
fleece johnson?!
Claim your "here within an hour" ticket here
*Jocko Willink is the Reluctant Leader we need.*
.....We know you've done enough, but your Nation needs you.
🇺🇸 *2024* 🦅
We should write him in, right? ; ) He hates politics.
The more you ask, the easier it gets to say no.
Incredible
Very emotional and encouraging
This was a fantastic podcast! Very moving, inspiring, and harrowing story. Definitely going to order this book today. Thank you for sharing!!
Ahhhhh. Just in time, I needed A good bedtime story
After every video I watch I’m always thankful you have the platform you do. This is the best content I’ve ever found I have changed the way I live since I started listening, I demand better of myself and those around me.
More Vietnam stories they are the best.
Someone, like a real actual person, took in the accounts from this battle and consciously downgraded this man’s award from Vietnam and it wasn’t fixed until LAST YEAR. Glad this man got the recognition while still alive, he certainly deserved absolutely all of it. Agree with Jocko that person certainly shouldn’t have been doing that job
My father was artillery in Vietnam and he said when he got the coordinates he could put the round right at the enemy's feet 🤙
Jocko!
51 cal were devastating we ran into them in August of 67 we had one gunship hit a round hit the door gunner in the another hit by the tail rotor these were uh1bs and c gunships all we had were m60s
podcast 67 was one of the best. Looking forward to this one too
Please bring Duffy on the podcast!!
Yet again, another outstanding episode!
I would love to listen in on a conversation between Jocko and Tony Blauer.
Yay, Echo's back! 😄
Podcast 63 is a tremendous supplement to this video. I highly recommend you listen to Reeder’s captivity account!
Astonishing broadcasting. Thankyou
Welcome back Echo!
They mentioned one could find a YT video of Maj. Duffy calling in air strikes. If you know the link please post it, because I haven't found it.
Just listening to the Jocko podcast will put hair on your chest.
Where can we listen to the audio recording of the radio traffic?
This script is beautiful
Anyone know where we can find this 40 minute radio exchange from the battle?
Any luck? I’ve been searching for it myself
Outstanding podcast !!
Has anyone found the audio of the pilots and Duffy?
21k views. 800 likes. Come on people. With all these guys went through and we can’t push a button.
Such a crazy fight, I certainly never heard of. It was such an insane notion that over 400 guys could hold that against all the NVA there, but they probably took out 1000s and held 2 weeks. Even in the escape of over 100 guys, only 5 of them got extracted via the helicopters then 30 stragglers luckily got out by walking.
Another great podcast !
Jocko I’m sure this has already been asked, but have you considered brining Duffy in for an interview ?
I was thinking as Jocko does these podcasts he’s probably reliving horrible first hand experiences. That’s gotta be draining. But I’m glad he does it.
Thank you sir for bringing this to us
I love my D68's and your killer belts ~ they are so comfortable and are worth every penny ~ Cheers
Duffy: "I am not a Marine. I enjoy my comforts!"
I read Mark Bowden's book about the battle of Hue. The 1st. Air Cav. was coming in to back up the Marines, but at one point got pinned down by NVA mortar fire.
I'm, to this day, kind of angry with Bowden for his description of how some extremely unfortunate air mobile grunt, who was taking shelter in his foxhole, took a direct hit from a mortar round. Bowden described how this soldier was "plumed."
I know it isn't Bowden's fault, but for some reason I'm still pissed off about this description of the death of an American soldier.
Probably just frustration and grief on my part...the entire battle of Hue generated similar emotions in general. Extremely frustrating and heartbreaking.
Is there any where we can go to listen to those radio recordings you guys referred to in this episode?
Outstanding
Sir, I am wondering if you ever served with Charles Davis? special forces group 5 1961-1965. Also served with special forces 6th and 7th groups. Served 2 more tours in 67 amd 69-70. He served as advisor for montyards. And in later tours served with 17th Calvary.
Great story... Thanks for doing you and dealing with comments like mine...
Please never kick echo off, unless there’s a good reason of course but I can’t see that happening. I hate it when you have a podcast with two “hosts” and the less prominent one gets the boot. The Mike Tyson podcast is a good example. Great ep today though, love hearing about all these cool people and their stories.
Been searching for echo Charles! Where did he go he was missing for a while it seemed, I got worried :)
This was tremendous jocko
God bless everyone there. It’s sad that most young men on both sides were drafted and had no choice.
Another VN podcast .Thank you sir!
"Into the great wide open,
Under them skies of blue;
Out in the great wide open.....
A rebel without a clue."
- T. Petty
Anyone know where I can hear the radio communication?
God bless all you boys
Never Quit
does anyone have a link for the helicopter recordings of the battle?
This is why we need Jesus
Fantastic
Can anyone point me in the direction of the radio calls they were talking about? I want to listen to them.
I just want Jocko to read me a bedtime story!
No ads for 341 podcasts, but now every 7 minutes, in the heights of the battle tension, ol' Draftkings pops in to sell more bullshit
Anybody able to find the radio audio? I can't find it.
Would love to see an episode with Micheal Caine Talking about his time in Korea. We only have a few more years to gather first hand accounts.
NEW JOCKO x VIETNAM POD! Sorry New Bertcast!