Be interesting to do a run without the air filter just to see how much that air filter design hurts performance. Shop looks good Joe, needs to drum up a few ol tin saw signs.
I’ve had three 038 magnums/magnum 2’s. Always liked that they made decent power up high for limbing and enough torque to pull longer bars. Stihl was coming up with some cool factory mufflers back then, funny to see they’ve stuck with that choke/filter design for so long. Those things were about as heavy as a 661 so I replaced mine with the two dolmars you’ve got right now.
Your studio is looking good Joe :) I have an 038 mag II with a full wrap handle. It is a nice torquey felling saw. The air filter was a huge week point on these saws, I would probably take the time to figure out a carb with built in choke and velocity stack with a foam filter if I was cutting with it every day. I enjoy running it every now and then. I looked into getting MS382 when they first came out but, the flippy caps, air filter, and open port cylinder turned me off, It is cool their still being made, they just would not compete with the MS462 or 500i here in the U.S. I wish Stihl would have just taken the mag II and put a Warbro carb on it with an HD filter setup and left the rest of the saw alone. I think if the manufacturers would do some minor improvements to some of their older models they would sell, heck sell them as kit saws. I would gladly pay good money for an all OEM 064 or a red light 066 kit saw with full wrap handles.
I really like my 038 av magnum 2. I cleaned up the ports and widened them a little bit. It seemed to make it run somewhat better. My magnum 2 seemed super torquey until i messed with the ports some. Now it seems to make less torque down low but revs up quite a bit more. It's one of my favorite saws to cut with. Up until i got my 500i anyway 😂
nice, I have the same saw ported it a lil bit and put a pipe on it. I run 25" inch duromatic hardnose bar on mine, dealers don't sell sprocket nose bars here. I was thinking putting an ms381 piston in there since the stock piston skirt is a lil short on the exaust side, ground a lil bit on the case so it can clear the piston etc.. haven't done it yet tho maybe in the future. I screwed up my first cylinder I cut too much on the squish band lol, that why I thought that an ms381 piston could work to eliminate the free port hehe, I run both stock and modded one and I do not like running the stock one. Never seen anyone port one of these too, yours probably the second on ported other than mine hehe
Hey Joe...Scott over at bluesaws....Funny thing on this. We placed a meteor order in error a few weeks back and wound up with the meteor version of this cyl... Not sure if it has any interest to you, but knowing there are about none of these in the states we're not likely to do a thing with it. Point being if you want it, I'll send it over. Might be better for you than a paperweight over here.... Appreciate the great vids.
I have ran the 038 super and a few 038 mag II's. The super with 24 is okish saw for power to weight, The mag II is darn good falling saw, carb and and air filter were the design weakness for sure. If some one could 3d print a Vstack with a choke it would sure be nice.
I have an 088 just the motor that I am building a longtail boat motor for my RUclips channel. Do you have any experience porting these? And how would I know what to do? I have started building the expansion chamber which o have some idea of what I am doing, but with the porting I worried I will ruin it
038 has 3 models av, super and mag 62 67 72 cc, closed ports. Mag 2 was next gen in the 038mag line . The mag I had was the first saw i had and it pulled light a freight train with a 32 inch full comp full chiesel but heavy as heck
The mag 2 was the first of the 72cc 038’s made in Germany. I believe some of the very late mag 2’s were made in Brazil. After that they were made exclusively in Brazil and were no longer badged “magnum II” just magnum. Later magnums had the translucent fuel tank.
@@ChippyOutdoors same here in the states. The 038 mag II is older, 038 mag is newer. I wanna say in the early 90’s they dropped the 2 and were just called magnum.
I’ve got a few 038’s. they all run quite well, and all magnum saws. One is Brazilian made and seems to pull a little harder than the others. Quite a few differences between the cylinders in the regular 038’s and the supers and magnums from what I’ve read.
Ive got 4 of these. One was to test, two were gifts and one was a mistake order. Mine that i have are not authentic. I had them on my channel but there was controversy. There are some real time law suits on the copies. They are similar design but lots different than 38/381, not interchangeable clutch for example.
Nice gain on the 382👍🏻 6 hp should run a 24 with ease. If I were looking at a new saw, I might choose something more modern... How much do these things cost?
Hi joe,my name is ron I'm contacting you with regards to your ms 382 build .I've been running an 038 avs farm boss since 1995 it has been .y go to saw for all these years. The old girl is real tired!!! I'm fearing that she's going to need a complete rebuild . I know that stihl made 3 diff. Versions of the 038 .#1 - 038avs w/ 48 mm bore .#2 - 038 avs super w/ 50mm bore a d #3- was the beast the 038 magnum w/ 52mm bore.I've read that the mag will out buck a stock 046 mag. Because the 038 mag has the same bore as 46 however the 038m has a shorter stroke ! The 046 revs around 11800- 12300 whereas the 038m revs. Around 13300rpms. Joe I hope this info. Is helpful to you and your many viewers. If I can be of any further assistance please fell free to contact me . Sincerely,Ron Mendoza.
Price shipped from overseas was $850. So though not a high output saw, not bad for the money. Thought it was interesting and worth the try. Not a screamer but I think I’m gonna like it.
From my experience and what I can see here aswell, stihls might be awesome saws but this weird split design is just a donkey to work on. Husky 200 series masterrace
Stihl 038AVE | 1980 - 1985 Stihl 038AVEFB | 1983 - 1985 Stihl 038AVS | 1982 - 1985 Stihl 038AVSFB | 1985 - 1993 Stihl 038AVM | 1984 - 1989 Stihl 038 MAGNUM | 1985 - 1997 Made 7 version total with the magnum ll CC were 61 66 72.2 Bore 48mm stroke 34mm Bore 50mm stroke 34mm Bore 52mm stroke 34mm I have and run 1995 mag bought it new still runs just fine 12.500 rpm plenty of toque 4.8 hp 4.4 cu in head weight 14.6 lbs I run 20" 32" to 36" bars depending on what wood am into In Brazil they run 36" 42" all day long The deference between magnum n magnum ll is two port muffler vs tri port muffler all other specs are the same except transfer was little more open on mag ll Also the original 038 were made in West Germany like all the older stihl models later when stihl opened a factory in Brazil they made them in Brazil All 038 had magnesium body hence the weight of power head 14.6lbs
Not sold in the US and many other weak, woke Western countries due to EPA crap. I snapped up 3 of the earlier 381s before they were phased out in Australia. They are closed port 52 mm. Great 72 cc work saws. My 038 MAG made in Germany is even better and will pull well sharpened 404 no worries. And will last a lifetime. My 462 is snappy and light but pull 404 in hard wood? No way
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Be interesting to do a run without the air filter just to see how much that air filter design hurts performance. Shop looks good Joe, needs to drum up a few ol tin saw signs.
We have those with closed transfers in the East Afican Region, Kenya. Popular saw around here.
I’ve got two 038 mags they’re great running saws. Definitely more of a torque saw than a high rpm screamer.
Cool build Joe!
I’ve had three 038 magnums/magnum 2’s. Always liked that they made decent power up high for limbing and enough torque to pull longer bars. Stihl was coming up with some cool factory mufflers back then, funny to see they’ve stuck with that choke/filter design for so long. Those things were about as heavy as a 661 so I replaced mine with the two dolmars you’ve got right now.
Your studio is looking good Joe :) I have an 038 mag II with a full wrap handle. It is a nice torquey felling saw. The air filter was a huge week point on these saws, I would probably take the time to figure out a carb with built in choke and velocity stack with a foam filter if I was cutting with it every day. I enjoy running it every now and then. I looked into getting MS382 when they first came out but, the flippy caps, air filter, and open port cylinder turned me off, It is cool their still being made, they just would not compete with the MS462 or 500i here in the U.S. I wish Stihl would have just taken the mag II and put a Warbro carb on it with an HD filter setup and left the rest of the saw alone. I think if the manufacturers would do some minor improvements to some of their older models they would sell, heck sell them as kit saws. I would gladly pay good money for an all OEM 064 or a red light 066 kit saw with full wrap handles.
Thank you. Carb/filter setup would be first. New 064 sure would be nice too!
I really like my 038 av magnum 2. I cleaned up the ports and widened them a little bit. It seemed to make it run somewhat better. My magnum 2 seemed super torquey until i messed with the ports some. Now it seems to make less torque down low but revs up quite a bit more. It's one of my favorite saws to cut with. Up until i got my 500i anyway 😂
nice, I have the same saw ported it a lil bit and put a pipe on it. I run 25" inch duromatic hardnose bar on mine, dealers don't sell sprocket nose bars here. I was thinking putting an ms381 piston in there since the stock piston skirt is a lil short on the exaust side, ground a lil bit on the case so it can clear the piston etc.. haven't done it yet tho maybe in the future. I screwed up my first cylinder I cut too much on the squish band lol, that why I thought that an ms381 piston could work to eliminate the free port hehe, I run both stock and modded one and I do not like running the stock one. Never seen anyone port one of these too, yours probably the second on ported other than mine hehe
Hey Joe...Scott over at bluesaws....Funny thing on this. We placed a meteor order in error a few weeks back and wound up with the meteor version of this cyl... Not sure if it has any interest to you, but knowing there are about none of these in the states we're not likely to do a thing with it. Point being if you want it, I'll send it over. Might be better for you than a paperweight over here.... Appreciate the great vids.
Thank you! This was a customer saw, already sent home. I appreciate the offer though.
I bet the 044 wrap handle will fit on that saw. The mesh air filter could possibly fit it also.
I have the 388 clone saw with 8 pin sprocket and 20 inch bar.
Cuts great.
Be good to overlay your 361 366 graphs on the 382 graph.
I have ran the 038 super and a few 038 mag II's. The super with 24 is okish saw for power to weight, The mag II is darn good falling saw, carb and and air filter were the design weakness for sure. If some one could 3d print a Vstack with a choke it would sure be nice.
I have an 088 just the motor that I am building a longtail boat motor for my RUclips channel. Do you have any experience porting these? And how would I know what to do? I have started building the expansion chamber which o have some idea of what I am doing, but with the porting I worried I will ruin it
That sounds like an awesome fun project.
Send me an email and I can help you with some of the details. Hmwfllc@gmail.com
Looks like it came out well buddy 👍
Thanks 👍 it gained, but always hope for more.
038 has 3 models av, super and mag 62 67 72 cc, closed ports. Mag 2 was next gen in the 038mag line . The mag I had was the first saw i had and it pulled light a freight train with a 32 inch full comp full chiesel but heavy as heck
The mag 2 was the first of the 72cc 038’s made in Germany. I believe some of the very late mag 2’s were made in Brazil. After that they were made exclusively in Brazil and were no longer badged “magnum II” just magnum. Later magnums had the translucent fuel tank.
@eurokid83 canada I guess was different we had both mag and mag 2
@@ChippyOutdoors same here in the states. The 038 mag II is older, 038 mag is newer. I wanna say in the early 90’s they dropped the 2 and were just called magnum.
Sweet, another build video!
I have 038 mag2 love that saw. Its pretty torque'y.
I’ve got a few 038’s. they all run quite well, and all magnum saws. One is Brazilian made and seems to pull a little harder than the others. Quite a few differences between the cylinders in the regular 038’s and the supers and magnums from what I’ve read.
1:10 in and I like it.
Yep, I like those stock numbers! How limited are you with piston swaps?
Did not look at many piston swaps. 064 may be doable
Joe would you recomend one of these new over a used magnum?
Didn't know you could get those in the states 🤔...I got a cs381 neo-tec...52mm closed port...good runner
It was shipped in. Dont think they are available here.
@@dynojoemods2764 I didn't think so🤷🏼♂️
Had it imported from overseas
@@DEEREguy1982 awesome...didn't think they was available here
I have a ugly 038 mag 2 that runs great. It would only be a couple hour drive to bring it down for you to compare.
With the open transfers, where does the front feed go? If nowhere it is adding a lot of case volume.
Blocked off by the front of the cylinder.
Ive got 4 of these. One was to test, two were gifts and one was a mistake order. Mine that i have are not authentic. I had them on my channel but there was controversy. There are some real time law suits on the copies. They are similar design but lots different than 38/381, not interchangeable clutch for example.
Nice video Joe. I wonder why they aren't available here in the USA?
Three letters…EPA? 🤬
How do you make a saw pick up torque numbers? It seems like its kinda hard to achieve.
They really are not "torque" type engines. Best we can do is maintain or maybe add just a little bit, but move the peak up in the power band.
I like my 038 with aftermaker 72cc cylinder. I like this saw. built to abuse. big chunk of metal
Transfers and base are for sure different than the 038/380, the rest seems very similar.
What do you use to paint the muffler?
Nice Job!!
Base might be the same as the 056, 075, 076?
Good class thanks 😊
I had a 462 light powerful not sure how a 382 does slower, heavier and less hp?
Pretty much. Bit behind the 462 in terms of power and heavier weight.
The 382 I have is pretty bad ass
You know how it goes, just stings a bit when they fall short.
Nice gain on the 382👍🏻 6 hp should run a 24 with ease. If I were looking at a new saw, I might choose something more modern... How much do these things cost?
Thank you. They are in the 900 $ range stock.
How do you get your hands on one of those?
Have to be brought in from abroad.
Thank y
Hi joe,my name is ron I'm contacting you with regards to your ms 382 build .I've been running an 038 avs farm boss since 1995 it has been .y go to saw for all these years. The old girl is real tired!!! I'm fearing that she's going to need a complete rebuild . I know that stihl made 3 diff. Versions of the 038 .#1 - 038avs w/ 48 mm bore .#2 - 038 avs super w/ 50mm bore a d #3- was the beast the 038 magnum w/ 52mm bore.I've read that the mag will out buck a stock 046 mag. Because the 038 mag has the same bore as 46 however the 038m has a shorter stroke ! The 046 revs around 11800- 12300 whereas the 038m revs. Around 13300rpms. Joe I hope this info. Is helpful to you and your many viewers. If I can be of any further assistance please fell free to contact me . Sincerely,Ron Mendoza.
i’m sure this would be a great saw, but i almost don’t see the point of this model with the 462 around. what’s the price difference in the USA?
I'm not 100% sure on the price difference. Might be why they are not over here market wont buy them with the other saws out.
Price shipped from overseas was $850. So though not a high output saw, not bad for the money. Thought it was interesting and worth the try. Not a screamer but I think I’m gonna like it.
From my experience and what I can see here aswell, stihls might be awesome saws but this weird split design is just a donkey to work on. Husky 200 series masterrace
Why Didn't you Put A Flat Top Piston on It ???
How do I get my hands on a 382
Import from overseas
@@DEEREguy1982who/where did you import one? I've only seen 1 on eBay and they wanted 1200+. I'm a big 038 fan and was thinking of trying one of these
@@SlimPickins_07 if you are in one of the facebook chainsaw groups you can probably find someone
How does one get a MS382 in the USA?
Import from overseas
Bagus
Stihl 038AVE | 1980 - 1985
Stihl 038AVEFB | 1983 - 1985
Stihl 038AVS | 1982 - 1985
Stihl 038AVSFB | 1985 - 1993
Stihl 038AVM | 1984 - 1989
Stihl 038 MAGNUM | 1985 - 1997
Made 7 version total with the magnum ll
CC were 61 66 72.2
Bore 48mm stroke 34mm
Bore 50mm stroke 34mm
Bore 52mm stroke 34mm
I have and run 1995 mag bought it new still runs just fine 12.500 rpm plenty of toque 4.8 hp 4.4 cu in head weight 14.6 lbs I run 20" 32" to 36" bars depending on what wood am into In Brazil they run 36" 42" all day long
The deference between magnum n magnum ll is two port muffler vs tri port muffler all other specs are the same except transfer was little more open on mag ll
Also the original 038 were made in West Germany like all the older stihl models later when stihl opened a factory in Brazil they made them in Brazil
All 038 had magnesium body hence the weight of power head 14.6lbs
038 is Kinda like a brick shithouse. Heavy and durable. Mesh air filter helps a bunch, but fines will get through.
Not sold in the US and many other weak, woke Western countries due to EPA crap.
I snapped up 3 of the earlier 381s before they were phased out in Australia. They are closed port 52 mm.
Great 72 cc work saws.
My 038 MAG made in Germany is even better and will pull well sharpened 404 no worries. And will last a lifetime.
My 462 is snappy and light but pull 404 in hard wood? No way
open ports aren't even worth looking at.