Reviewing ITBs on a BMW E36 318is - SHIFT & RHD
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2016
- Sometimes when you like a car, you want to make it fit you.
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Hands down, this is the best video about M42/M44 tuning
Just got a 318is because of your video man 🤣
Great video! I've been trying to decide what route to go with on my 97 318is and forced induction was a thought, but i like the reliability of having an NA car without throwing a ton of money into a supercharger or turbo kit along with tuning. And the induction sound of the M44 is great with just a cold air intake, but those ITBs just sound absolutely amazing. Im glad there's love for the 4 cylinder BMWs out there, and i Definitely will be saving up and getting some ITBs from RHD. Beautiful car by the way👌
I would be totally happy with a 4 cylinder E36 with Ibts, and I have a 6 cylinder E36 with ibts!
10 yrs ago i got a e36 318ti, done a few mods to it and it was great. Yesterday I got a deal on another 318ti, without M package or something, completely stock, close to none rust for 1k. A absolutely steal! Glad I bought it :)
I recently bought a 318is coupe with minimal rust for £200 now that's a steal 😂😂
Love the video and I am on same page as you I do have a e36 318is m42 engine, love the itbs but they are still very expensive, good job.
Great video keep them coming 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 your car is very well sorted sweet as modifcations I've got a e30 s1 with m54 conversion just got my e39 2000 model 2.8 liter might pull the motor and other things for the transplant this week most parts are sorted , lsd ,ZF 5speed gearbox ,five stud m3 hubs , compact rear arms ,e30 m3 front wishbone arms and castor bushes list goes on lol ,and I'm building two other cars at the same time
awesome video guys :)
really like it
Great video, and some great thoughts on tuning. Also it looks like you were driving around the back of Melbourne near Gembrooke.
Sydney, the North Western Suburbs behind the Hills. Though I'm in Melbourne these days :)
I also find the 318is with M44 engine a great daily drive . Value for money is excellent . Like you said parts are cheap and it's easy to work on . Was considering buying a more modern BM but decided to spend a few dollars and restore instead. Interior's tend to fall apart as the glue fails but can be repaired to a good standard with some work .
@@MaFTB has anyone made updated coolant pipes? Why can’t they be rubber instead of plastic.
modified cars is great .if we all did the same thing ,or notting at all ,the world would be a very dull place
Very well explained, bought a lowered Mazda 121(front only) and had the worst experience, I now stay away anything that's modified...
Great video. I agree with your vision. The shit people make these cars endure is just crazy to me. A well thought tune will always be my priority from now on.
What a great review. Thinking of buying one. And a nice intake. Do you need remapping after installing it?
Nope, all plug and play!
Respect for doing this. In my part of the world cars and parts are incredibly expensive (e.g. ITB kit imported and installed would cost almost as much as the whole car). So that everything I do to my M52TUB28 puts me one step behind being able to buy a modern sports car one day, and of course everyone else tells you it's pure insanity (the "just buy an M" argument).
How loud is the induction noise? At 5:11 and 6:41, sounded like it was recorded from under the bonnet. Still looking forward to this kit! Also what exhaust are you using?
In the cabin it is noticeably louder than the stock setup when under full load (80~85dB), but when cruising it is about the same at ~75dB. The recordings were done from under the bonnet for the most part. The exhaust is still the standard exhaust, though I use a racing muffler which I swap with the stock muffler for a bit more power when needed - but it is too loud for long trips when it is hot.
I so want to buy an e38 318is coupe
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Hey Man!
i have an e30 with the m42 in it. im fully in love with the engine but i want a tad more out of it. ive been looking into the RHD ITB's for 3 months now (and an empty wallet) and ive been considering these.
i just have a few questions,
Firstly: Ecu, what happens with the mapping? is there a pre programmed chip i can order along with it?
Second: Daily Driving and efficency. whats that like? how many L/100km you getting?
and Lastly, i love you work man. Im in WA and im keen on doing so much with my lil e30 and making it a wonderful driver. (not that it isnt, it just needs abit more, and some tlc)
(also, fully appologising for my spelling)
Kind regards man.
hope to hear back from you
Check out the forum link in the description for all the details, but the summary is:
1 - The ECU is closed loop, as long as the MAF/O2 sensor works it will run fine on the stock ECU
2 - I've tracked the last 60 000kms of driving economy, average for me (I live in the city) was 10L/100km, I've since dropped that to 9.6L/100km. Freeway driving showed a similar improvement from 6.8L/100km down to 6.5L/100km
3 - The kit will fit the E30 but requires some changes to the airbox so make sure you read the forum and let RHD know its for an E30 so they can help you out!
I don't see the point in running ITBs on stock ECU. You get like 25 hp gain for 2000$. Just a chip will add 10hp for max 250$ from Turner or MarkD. It is however desirable setup for any fan of motorsport
Typical things to do to the M42/M44 that is not gonna cost you a lot: lighter flywheel, chip, rear differential from auto 4.44.
ty m8
My 318ti is nearly a clone if your 318is. Same color, body trim, wheels. Different interior. I think I need this RHD kit.
+3E Definitely worth the time and effort (Y)
Suspension and allot of other stuff is different
Hello my friend.very nice e36.I have the same one and I would like to know how can i take the same air intake.
racehead.com.au/ You can find the setup there!
Where do I buy a racing intake take from rhd? I can't find one on the website except for the portfolio?
racehead.com.au/product/bmw-m44m42-complete-itb-kit/
Sounds like a v8 it's wunderfull.... How can I get THIS sound on my e36 318is m42? Hope you can help me...
High flow cat and an offset muffler for the exhaust. ITBs on the intake.
I made a helmholtz resonator to handle the drone, but if you've got enough skill/money you could get equal length headers made to further reduce the drone.
Hi. I just purchased the Racehead ITB kit from Rama for my BMW 318is and I am Wondering if you ever needed to tune up the ECU?
Racehead claims that it Can be use with stock ECU but I wanted to make sure from an user
I appreciate the help.
You don't need an ECU or a tune, but you will get more performance if you do!
@@ShiftMotoring thank you!
Sometimes you have to modify even Stock Injection for Lambda at WOT.
I order this light flywheel for my m44.. any modification to fix it??
What brand and model is the the flywheel?? Thanks
Open Pod Filter's will not pass RWC, Put in a box and it will, from everything i know, a Clean OEM filter is best, unless you re-tune the ec
I have a E46 330i s54 3.0lt motor with their vanos system to change/improve cam timing, kicks in around 4,500 rpm
Unfortunately I couldn't fit the OEM air box. The car has since had a box built around the filter.
Dude I have like almost the same as you, how much did you get your lsd for??
To be honest, I don't remember as it was a while ago. I'm tearing them down at the moment if you want to have a look www.m42club.com/forum/index.php?topic=18442.msg131496#msg131496 and I'll be selling one once they're rebuilt. A bit of fun, I think I'll try and do a video on how LSDs work while they're apart!
I own one too but whats a lsd?
S'bu Cele limited diff
What brand and model is the the flywheel? And how it feels??
Joao Costa c’est toi? De Toulouse avec la is noire? 😉😅
It is made by RHD www.m42club.com/forum/index.php?topic=19030.msg130544#msg130544
What about just regular 318
how many CV?
Can’t find these for sale even with your links. Any updates?
racehead.com.au/
I was gonna swap out my 318 for the 6cyl but I’ve decided to be a little different ima build the 4banger
They're a lot of fun - I'm currently doing more work with mine, cams and an ECU and a design revision on the intake. Watch this space!
@@ShiftMotoring I think ima build the top end and install a turbo on and get it tuned hopefully I don’t push it to far but it should be an interesting experience
@@zlowe3643 They can take a fair bit of abuse being a steel block. There are a few 500+ cars running around, but not a lot of info on them I'm afraid!
@@ShiftMotoring yea everyone is obsessed with the straight 6
How much hp
Hi, would this fit the m43b16 engine?
I think so, but you'll need to look around on forums to see if the intake ports are the same!
where did you end up finding an lsd? (from a fellow 318is owner)
I found mine on ebay, it was a few years ago now! I sourced it from the US.
@@ShiftMotoring ah, how much did it cost you approximately with shipping? (Im in Australia aswell) and surprisingly own a brilliant red e36 sedan too
Also was it a small case?
@@nes3382 You need a small case, and it was about 10 years ago now so I don't recall the price!
@@ShiftMotoring hi there, me again. I've really been inspired by your build and want to build something similar with mine. I'm planning on buying the RHD ITB kit but i have a few questions, i love a bit of induction sound but is it loud to the point of overpowering the radio and being a cop magnet? second question, according to site images the kit comes with an airbox and the ITB's but what else would i have to add? (cone filters, fitting the maf, piping etc) sorry for the long read, thanks in advance!
How is fuel consumption with the itbs???
Very interested too. How much does ITBs affect somehow in normal driving?
There is a link to the forum build of my car in the description if you want the long answer - the short answer is that fuel economy improved marginally, and a bit more when I built a cold air intake fed from infront of the radiator.
As for drivability - torque improved across the board, so before changing the anything else the car drove better than stock across the rev range. The difference is most notable at 4500RPM though. Combined with the LSD, light flywheel and the changed final drive it is noticeably faster than the standard car, and easier to drive on the street with the better torque curve.
Hope that helps!
thanx man really appreciate the response only for me asking is because itb's are usually associated with poor fuel economy
If they're setup poorly I could see people driving with a bit of a lead foot - but really, your engine managment should inject the same fuel for the same air so fuel efficency shouldn't actually change. What does change is that you can ingest more air, so you can potentially burn more fuel. Basically, if they're setup properly fuel economy should stay the same unless you drive harder. The reason mine is slightly better is the better torque characteristic means that when I'm driving normally I'm not revving out as far.
Fishshack
What the name of that engine
M44
Where i can find lsd for the 318is?
Sanfora Mesquita dont use Lambo style doors. Looks allways Not really fitting
My e36 cost $500 to buy and $200 to fix the problems
music volume had to be lower.
who is this wallpaper girl ?
eh no its a great idea
bruh i didnt come here for a lecture. TELL ME BOUT THE CAR. gg no ree
Lmao asking 10x the value you bought it for on carsales, I get that theyve gone up in value now. But 7k to 8k is far more reasonable than 15k. Like you said a good cheap car that gets expensive ends up being an expensive car that’s not that good... 🤷♂️
Great video nonetheless 👍
@@MeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeow5 It is up for sale after an acquaintance sold theirs for $16k. It surprised me, but as it turns out that is what people are willing to pay for it. I've had three offers in the first week with the lowest being $13500, but I enjoy the car and I'm not interested in parting with it for less. For the price, I'm still not really sure what there is that competes with it, locally anyway.
@@ShiftMotoring that’s crazy, the market for stock clean examples still seems to be around 7-10k for manual 318is. I’m assuming your acquaintance had a extremely clean example. I bought a very clean Boston green 318is coupe last year for $7200. I guess some people get impatient and buy whatever’s on the market occasionally.
@@MeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeow5 Less clean than mine and higher milage, but definitely better than average.
It really just depends what someone is looking for at the time.
@@MeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeow5 Also, I'm not asking 10x what I paid, not even close. When I bought this they were selling between $7k-$10k. I've had this car for 12 years nearly.
u lose power with that open air intake man leave it stock it already works like a CAI
www.m42club.com/forum/index.php?topic=18442.msg128695#msg128695
very ignorant comment.
Idiots