Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Review: Brute Force Power Delivers Huge Performance
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- For two years now, the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti has been the undisputed consumer-level GPU king - but Nvidia's new Ampere architecture has arrived, with RTX 3080 taking performance to the next level. In this review you'll get to see just how fast this new card is, and whether it lives up to the early promise shown in our RTX 3080 early look video. NOTE: we re-tested Gears 5 after filming this - its jump from 2080 to 3080 it actually 69%, not 61%.
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New cards absolutely need to properly run older games regardless of how old they are. Thank you for mentioning that.
100% I was heartbroken when I got the RX480 and I could no longer play the old splinter cell games.
@@YourPalHDee why not?
@@YourPalHDee weird
@@amilyester just wouldn't run properly for some reason. They ran but at unplayable inconsistent frame rates.
@@YourPalHDee the older splinter cell had a different engine for running lights that was depented on old tech no longer suported, its the same as dos games needing glide to run, glide is no longer suported in new cards because no one makes games in them anymore, so why waste resources making sure it works on it ?
(small nitpick) I understand why the percentages might be useful in the graphs, but if you decide to start using them more, please show both fps and percentage at the same time so I can keep the full context of how the game is running in my mind. Keep up the good work!
Good thinking.
I think that's probably nVidia requirement. F them.
@@zzzzUS Embargo is lifted, there is no requirement
@@zzzzUS Oh shut up AMD fangay. I see all kinds of conspiracy theories from you lot in these comments sections. You that jealous that Nvidia's doing a good job?
You shouldn't have that kind of loyalty to a company that makes money off of you. It's pathetic.
Thats why I hate sponsored reviews.
But... will we be able to buy one? These are the questions my friends
Update: Yes - we apparently will be able to. Have my 3090 now. Looking forward to testing the Big Navis next :)
Hi I need help, tips and tricks guys if I should upgrade or change something on building my Ultimate PC and everything rest:
AMD threadripper 3390x RAM matched with x570 ryzen 4000
- Corsair Dominator Platinum 128gb X2 - motherboard - asus Rog maximus Xii - Apex Razer deathadder - 4K 160fps (120 standard on most games) 240hz.. (want to get 360hz)
And I DONT know what GPU I should get New gen so im upgrading waiting on something bigger.
How does this sound, did I forget other important components? Am I good for couple of gens? No matter the price, IF you can help Thanks!
You can and will if you're willing to pay extra lol
@@sync117 I have preordered the 980ti EVGA, the 1080ti FE and 2080tiFE, and each time they sold out within seconds.
Without a preorder this time, and the covid pandemic- we might see even greater shortages
Buut, will it blend?
@@Nick930 yeah I haven't so I probably won't be able to get one until 2022
I love the "THIS IS NOT A JOKE" disclaimer at the 450fps in 1080p DOOM Eternal. 😂
This card looks immense.
You can get that on a 1070 by looking at an empty skybox.
Hmm I bought doom eternal on sale because 970 should be able to run it. Then I got 7fps... 450 fps sounds preferable
All them FPS is wasted if you don't have a display that can actually display it.
@@frrrmphpoo1700 that doesn't sound normal yo
Get that 360Hz monitor with DLSS 2.1 and Reflex ready!
So my head will explode going from a 1060 to a 3070. Exactly what I need.
enjoy
1050Ti here.... can't wait.
@@xmaverickhunterkx 1030 here...
i think i will ascend to heaven
Hi I need help, tips and tricks guys if I should upgrade or change something on building my Ultimate PC and everything rest:
AMD threadripper 3390x RAM matched with x570 ryzen 4000
- Corsair Dominator Platinum 128gb X2 - motherboard - asus Rog maximus Xii - Apex Razer deathadder - 4K 160fps (120 standard on most games) 240hz.. (want to get 360hz)
And I DONT know what GPU I should get New gen so im upgrading waiting on something bigger.
How does this sound, did I forget other important components? Am I good for couple of gens? No matter the price, IF you can help Thanks!
Cee Z bait
i skipped the 20 series cards so this is exciting for me
im still rocking a 970, cant wait for tomorrow lol
Got a 980ti this is like 150% better. I'm ready!!!
You didn't miss much, given that 2080 = 1080 Ti 😎
@Danielfallz Rothman if I don't get one then whatever, but I'm excited for the F5 battle tomorrow at 9. also i pre-ordered cyberpunk, will be running it maxed out 1440p hopefully
edit: im going for a FE
I still have a 1050. It works for the games I play so don't judge. 70 fps at on destiny 2 is fine. Better than 30 fps on console. It never drops below 50 fps in more intense scenes.
19:41 damn right! And playing old games at ridiculous resolutions, fps, and also mods! Thats what a PC has always been.
Versatility!
Yeah, I played Painkiller Black Edition at 4K, with all settings maxed on a GTX 980. Looked good.
@@threecats8219 I play Skyrim SE. DX11, 64bit fully modded 160fps/Hz (165Hz 1440p panel). It actually uses all 8GB of my GTX 1080's VRAM. It's not just allocation. And it can drop to near 30 fps in forest heavy areas. Looking forward to a 20GB 3080.
yup same, i love loading up bf1942 or bf2 and playing them at 300fps+ on modern hardware!
This, got a 2080ti 2 years ago and the first thing I checked is : can I run this old game at 8k? 12k?
@@xm1808 I do that every new upgrade! ;)
Excellent video
Garbage video.
Hey! One of my other favorite youtubers!
Nvidia approves
My boi ACG
Wow a RUclipsr than isn’t sickeningly jealous of DF for being the guys to get a 3080. awesome!! Love your work, ACG!
I can only imagine the experience from going from my 970 to 3080.
Lol
about damn time lol enjoy da framez
anything is better than that bodged vram card.
I had overclocked, twin EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW cards with top-binned GPU chips running in SLI in my gaming PC in 2016, it managed to render the most demanding games of the time at 60 FPS or far higher at 1920x1080 resolution with all graphics settings maxed out. When I upgraded from twin 970's to a single EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC Ultra OC (with top-binned K1A1 chip) in 2018, but keeping all other hardware components in the PC the same, I saw a 200%-300% improvement in frame-rate over what the SLI 970 FTW's could give me in the most demanding PC games while running the games at 3840x2160p with HDR enabled when available. Now imagine going from a single GTX 970 to a single RTX 3080, you would likely see a 300%-400% improvement in frame-rate at max settings in most games. It would be incredible!
im upgrading from a gtx960 to a 3070 or 3080
12:18 Funny how he says "ASS" with such a serious tone.
Yep, it felt like he had to put some effort into that one lol, I think I would have stuck to Arse, sounds nicer to me lol.
I'll never hear the word "Bad Ass" the same again.
@@benreed9517 Yeah, it doesn't quite sound right when us Brits say ass lol.
@@paul1979uk2000 Sounds even worse if you try saying "bad arse"
@@SolidGeordieMGS I think Ass should be reserved for the Americans, they can say it right, when us Brits try it, it just doesn't come off right at all, if anything, it sounds kinda funny.
The leap from my 970 to the 3080 is going to be insane.
I'm going from 960 to 3080
Oli damn dude we are in for a treat!
The day you find one to buy of course
Upgrading from a 2080Ti to a 3090, can't wait!
I'm going from 770 to 3080.
I wonder how this is gonna change up the VR scene. Be quite nice to get something on the level of ‘Alyx’ with a massive boost to dynamic lighting etc.
Does VR changed with 2080ti in the world scene ?
Ramigo no but it did change when PS4 added support 🤣😂🤣😂🤣 really goes to show that pc doesn’t do shit for gaming because it’s trash🤣🤣🤣😂🤣 ps5 will change be even more with 8k ray trace 120 FPS vs 3080 barely get 4K 60 FPS 😎😎😎
@@theinfinity2994 now say it again in English.
The Infinity 8K, ray tracing at 120fps LMAO!!! That’s hilarious. You won’t see that kind of performance for about 10 years and it’ll be a PS7 by then.
@@theinfinity2994 your joking right if your not your really are just stupid and I cant help you with with that. Plus ps5 is looking pretty weak the xbox will destroy it in every way.
Regarding Crysis 3, something happened to the performance of this game at some point in time. I was (way above) 60FPS in 4K with 2 - 1080 Ti's in SLI (highest settings), but now I'm just a (little above) 60FPS.
Also, feel free to do an entire 3080 comparison video with Red Dead 2. Thanks, the gaming community.
True, something is wrong with that game
In the Nvidia driver under "manage 3d settings" or what it's called there is an option called "low latency mode" which you have to set to ultra.
That should fix it, did it for me at least.
Before, I had a just over 60 fps cap and often harsh dips in fps since the last install, now it's buttery smooth again for me.
Gamers Nexus compared Red Dead 2 performance in their 3080 review charts.
3090 can't push past 60fps at 4K MAX Settings
@@NexGenTek the unreleased 3090.
Hey Richard you can fix Crysis 3 by setting the V sync to “fast” on the Nvidia control panel for Crysis 3 specifically. I had this same issue and the fix worked for me.
Would like to add that this fixed the issue for me as well on a RTX 2080.
Yep worked for me on my 2070 super
Red Dead Redemption 2 seems to have been left out and this would of been interesting to see if the power hungry RTX 3080 would allow 60 FPS + at 4 K .
You can already play 60fps on 4K on RTX 2080 Ti if you use optimized setting (not max) which looks almost as good as max anyway
IIRC from other reviews, you can do 4k/60 with max settings with high-end cpus
@@killermoon635 yeah cool still isn't a 3080
Spoilers the 3080 still cant do 4k 60 with maxed settings. Go check out JayzTwoCents.
@@neonlights_12 No, dude... it's 51fps at 4K with 3080 max everything. 3 more frames than a 2080Ti.
"But can it run Crysis 3?" The answer, for now, is no. ;)
Oh dear, hahaha.
Cry with German Tears :p
You spelled 'Microsoft Flight Sim' wrong
@@MindAtLarge010 Maybe I missed the joke, but I was talking about the mention of the odd framerate cap that CryEngine games seem to have with the 3080.
I think theres something wrong with cryengine...
I love that you guys did GTX 1080, that's what I have! Thank you.
Same. It's great that they focused the review vs. GTX 1080 because I was looking exactly for this sort of comparison to see if I want to upgrade.
They should've done 1080Ti instead
@@MaxIronsThird Why? There are much more 1080s out there than 1080 Tis. Ti buyers usually upgrade every generation, anyway. And this card is more a successor to a 1080 than a 1080 Ti. NVIDIA will probably come out with a 3080 Ti card later.
Yeah same i always compared it to 2080 but im also on a 1080. can't wait to play 4k 60fps POG!
I've got a 1070ti so basically the same as a 1080, still nice :-)
I find it hilarious and kind of amazing that 4K is still kinda fresh and new as far as the layperson is concerned and 8K is making rumblings.
Bearing in mind that the 980Ti was considered the first proper 4K card, it's insane that we're 3 gens later and only really just starting to get proper 4K performance.
most peopel don't 4K when PC gaming, and over 50% of homes do not have a 4K set. 8K is just something the tech companies will start to BS us about.
OG Titan SLI or 290X Crossfire were amazing for 4K 60fps back in 2013. 4K isn't new or only recently attainable at all. It's only recently that it's been untenable since before the 3080 it still required multi-gpu.
Steam hardware survey had 4k at around 2% users so the new big thing is at most 1440p. In reality 1080p is the standard for 90% + of gamers for at least a few years. 8k is like VR and 3D TV's irrelevant.
@@Dahoon Yep I'm still using a 1660 here which is fine for 1080p60. I imagine the majority of PC gamers are around this sort of level on average. The ones who buy these ridiculously priced 320+ watt guzzling monstrosities are in a small minority.
Perhaps you could try Kingdom Come Deliverance? it runs on cryengine and has a settings mode for next-gen graphics, so it might be a nice benchmark!
Maybe we’ll finally get to play it at 4k60 😒
It looks like ass. The game looks like a broken version of The Witcher 3. F' that game!
Gamevet Witcher 3 IS the broken version of Witcher 3.
@@TheOneandOnlyCornBread Witcher 3 runs fine. That turd of a game (Kingdom Come Deliverance) runs like crap.
i'm going to 3080 from 1070, my god it's going to be MADNESS !!!
same! It will be amazing
i've 1070 too, it's triple the perfomance . Total overkill if you don't plan on gaming on 4k
Im going from a 1060 3GB to a 3070 😋😋😋
980TI to 3090 here!
What cpu do you have?
The Xbox series S behind the chair..
It's the empty shell MS sent out to a bunch of RUclips channels
Z3U5 well it seems like the guy making the original comment didn’t know that so he was just telling him lmao you good??
Like 1/6th the performance of the 3080.
@@JFinns lmao
It's really a space heater
It offers a small improvement at 1440p, while demanding proportionately more power. It has too little VRAM for 4K, where it offers much better performance as long as you don't go over the 10GB. This is a bit of a fail.
You must be comparing it to 2080 Ti and not rtx 2080. Rtx 3080 beats rtx 2080 easily at all resolutions
Which games 10gb is not enough for 4k ??
It’s always exciting to see a new Digital Foundry thumbnail in my feed, I recognize that font instantly!
It's a shame that the power consumption is so much higher too; these performance leaps at the expense of power do not bode well for the laptop versions.
Disagree. They'll have their own low powered versions with lower clocks, and still be lower priced than 20 series.
@@MarioGoatse Cut down versions with lower clocks = lower performance. Ampere cores are much slower than Turing's. 5888 (3070) = 4352 (2080 Ti).
Also doesn't bode well for partner cards if Nvidia had to build that huge over-engineered cooler just to get temperatures down....
@@LaskaiTamas23 Hi I need help, tips and tricks guys if I should upgrade or change something on building my Ultimate PC and everything rest:
AMD threadripper 3390x RAM matched with x570 ryzen 4000
- Corsair Dominator Platinum 128gb X2 - motherboard - asus Rog maximus Xii - Apex Razer deathadder - 4K 160fps (120 standard on most games) 240hz.. (want to get 360hz)
And I DONT know what GPU I should get New gen so im upgrading waiting on something bigger.
How does this sound, did I forget other important components? Am I good for couple of gens? No matter the price, IF you can help Thanks!
“Wattage per frame.” That should be Joules per frame.
9:09 Doom eternal on 3080 at 1080p
Runs like a unity game with no assets
Doom is just a marvel of optimization. Its ridiculous seeing Borderlands 3 as a comparison... Sure the levels are more wide and open but it looks mediocre and performs way worse.
Man doom eternal is what you call optimized. Borderlands 3 is some straight b.s
It's the volumetric fog. Every game that uses it heavy handedly will make any graphics card suffer at max settings. Turning it off will net you a huge boost, but then the game won't look the way the developers intended. Monster hunter world also had this problem. People turn it off for a huge fps boost but I hate how the game looks like it has no "depth" to it. It looks terrible to me without fog.
@@TexelGuy bl3 just runs bad on most setups anyways with volumetric fog off
@@conrado800 I wish people would stop this argument already. Borderlands has performance issues, but artstyle does not automatically affect performance.
You could have stylized 1 million poly models or photorealistic 200k poly models.
It is well optimized but it's also a linear shooter. Same problem with people acting like RE Engine is super optimized even though we have seen nothing but really linear games on it.
People said the same thing about MT Frameworks with DMC4 and then Dragon's Dogma suddenly ran at 20fps.
@Plazmatron borderlands 3 has shitty performance despite its shitty cartoon graphics.
Wish you'd focused a bit more on 1080 Ti instead of 1080, considering it's a better match for this pricing tier and many 1080 Ti owners held off on upgrading until the 30 series.
IIRC 2080 Super is the equivalent of a 1080 Ti. I think Richard did the right thing and focused on the main 80 series models and the current top dog (2080 Ti).
The majority of people like myself ended up not paying the extra 200$ for the ti back then. We are wondering if that money not spent back then will be worth it this go around and it seems the answer is yes!
The 1080 Ti will probably appear in the 3090 review
@@RicochetForce Never a good Idea paying for VRAM you'll never need lol
@@christophervanzetta It's also a bad idea paying for video cards without enough VRAM for the resolution they're designed for. Nvidia owners should be wary after they bullshit they pulled back in the 9 series.
Digital Foundry. The only reviews that matter. Hype is insane this year!!
True 🔥
bro smthg isn't right in this video.
Binod Tharu Keep hating, broke boii.
I feel so bad for those that sold there
2080ti. Thank you digital foundry I will be waiting
I have 2080 ti OC and there is no way im going to replace it with this 3080. There has to be a bigger difference than this if im going to buy another card
Robo Mnemonic it’s just there’s not that many games right now that even really use DLSS 2.0 I mean the only thing I care about is the hdmi 2.1 at 120 but I’m going to wait to see what the 3090 can do and for amd normally I don’t wait and just buy it but I got a feeling about it so I’m waiting.
@@c0rpsicle I just hope I can play cyberpunk 2077 on 1080p ultra 60 fps with my card lol
Robo Mnemonic honestly it’s from the creator of the Witcher so you’ll probably be able to run it higher then 1080p with ray tracing off of course
Why would you feel bad for them? Having sold a 2080ti they can afford a card that performs 20 to (edit)40% better and still have some money to spare
I'll stick with my 1080ti and get myself the PS5.
Del: We should probably go down now
JD: Hold on I'm testing the wattage requirement for this scene across generations.
Del: What?
JD: Exactly.
I'm more then happy to say, bye bye! to my 1080ti in near future 👏👍
Sold mine already, got $400 for it. That being said till I grab the card I'm stuck using a 980Ti.
"I'll be praying to the Crysis shrine"...my kind of of religion!
As someone who's more concerned with the running costs of a higher-end GPU than it's retail price (though I still won't pay an unreasonable price for a GPU at retail, like 20 series launch pricing) I appreciate the effort on efficiency/power consumption. Thanks. Definitely going to wait to see what AMD's is like, what both companies reference GPUs run like when liquid cooled and what 3rd party efficiency/power consumption is like.
If you need power efficiency and consumer gpu, for sure amd will be more efficient
@@cud0s Radeon VII wasn't. But we shall see with RDNA 2 & 3rd party cards.
The good news is you can undervolt and underclock for much better scaling efficiency, but at that point I'd wonder why you wouldn't get a 3070 instead.
Judging by a few leaks and info we already know, RDNA 2.0 still isn't going to be quite as efficient or fast as Nvidia's offerings and with less hardware features, but they can definitely compete with solid prices and raw value.
Just undervolt & you can easily bring it below 300W(peak).
And from what's been said on the internet, only the RTX FE will have the higher TGP in vbios, AIBs would be capped to a slightly lower limit, so those could be more efficient but not as powerful, and I doubt that they will be running (appreciably) cooler than the FE which is already impressive given the wattage.
Water cooling is something different so can't comment but still depends.
Does electricity cost really matter for most people? Let's say you game 8 hours a day and this card draws 100W more, that's an extra 24kWh per month which is like $3
I finally have a 3080. Being 2 years late to the game is the one. Managed to get a basically new Asus TUF OC for £500. Absolutely loving it with my new 55" LG NANO 86 (hdmi 2.1). Brilliant for gaming and studio work (with an equally absurdly good value £200 5900x...thanks potentially dodgy Facebook market place dude who had a few of these!)
Kudos to the Marketplace dude
I tried to panic sell my 2080 on eBay for the past 2 weeks but to no avail. I think I'll keep hold of this still beefy card until the 4000 series. My buttery smooth gaming experience hasn't changed from when I first bought it lol.
the right choice
@@TedThomasTT hardly a choice, more like settling since he couldn't sell it lol.
Get a second one for cheap, and SLI them for max gains ;)
@@themr2005 stfu. :)
In retrospect it may have been for the best. You’d probably be without a card at all given how the launch turned out.
So a 30% performance improvement over a 2080ti, with really no improvement in ray tracing, and 23% increase in power consumption? Pretty disappointing
Did you forget the price difference?
I don't know why i'm watching this 6 months later... when there's still little chance of me finding one to buy
Nvidia went big on doubling shaders, transistors and total compute power but didn’t improve their overall efficiency. The 30 series cards are not pulling more frames per teraflop. Rdna is roughly 50% more efficient than polaris. Amd is claiming the similar gains with rdna 2.0. Amd just might pull another ryzen
They improved their efficiency by ~20% still.
But when's the RTX 4080 coming out? I need to run Minecraft in full 1080p.
You mean 10800p :p
@@androsforever500 No, he means 100800p
Damn I just got a 3080 for $800. Looks like a huge leap from my old reliable 1080 ti. It has served me well
I just got an RTX 3080 Ti for $800 that is replacing my GTX 1080 Ti. :)
@@Kallan007 Happy gaming! Hopefully upcoming games like the witcher 3 remaster and last of us will give it a decent workout...because right now its just cruising through everything. 100FPS with ray tracing on in spider-man!
I paid $1300 for my EVA edition...then later this year it dropped to $800 and the 3090 dropped to $1300 🥲🥲🥲🥲
(I did really want to secure because of how "seemingly" limited edition it would've been and all of the shortages and scalping in the last years. It's bittersweet)
Had the 1080ti for 5 years it was amazing with the 6700k but overtime I wanted the performance, 2080 and 2080ti just wasn’t a big enough boost, 1080ti vs 2080 was only 5-7% at best, 35% at best with the 2080ti, but I wanted better just got a 3080 and it’s a good 35-45% faster then the 2080ti and as much as 85% faster then 1080ti
@@romankozlovskiy7899 Nice. I'm on a 4070 ti now, which is another 30% faster even, and has DLSS 3 which is no joke. I had no real reason to upgrade...but prices here in canada are still broken. I was able to sell the 3080 for more than what I paid, and the 4070 ti in the end cost just $100 more. Wtf...why not lol
You’re cherry picking again! If you’re going to compare this card to a 1080 then why not the 1080ti. And given that the 1080 was never a 4k card, where are the 1440p comparisons?
Technicaly 1080ti is almost exactly 2080 performance, so you might as well just replace the 2080 with 1080ti in the charts and you basically get the same results.
Justas Draskinis exactly but that wouldn’t be a good way to market your new gpu......
Was that not covered every time he mentioned the performance gains at 1080p/1440p? What am I missing here?
I'm not rushing out for this Think I'll just hold on to the 2080ti for now.
I almost bought into the hype and sold my 2080Ti for $600, so glad I waited for benchmarks. Definitely not as fast as I was expecting vs 2080ti
I’m going for the ROG strix 3090 OC from a 2080ti. I feel 10gb of ram is not enough
@@JangoFettacheese I'll be honest with you here, a 3090 for gaming people is a total waste of money. Outside of gaming, like AI computation and researching, compiling, sure, it's probably worth $1500
good decision new cards are only 8-10gb not good choice unless you want 1440p gaming
lets wait for 3080ti
Forget crysis 3 benchmark, what about red dead redemption 2 at 4K maxed. I doubt you will get 50fps on 3080.
Gamers Nexus did a benchmark, and it averages 68fps with a mix of ultra/high settings on 3080, but personally, I'm 99% sure that's just bad optimization on Rockstar's part.
he also didnt test forza horizon because these games runs better on AMD's GPU's and it wont show a leap in performance just like dirt 2 & Gears 5 has shown in the video and DF channel are sponsored by nvidia so they just focus and the games that supports nvidia features from the release which have a big difference in performance between generations
@@ahmedmohmed4346 ok
Broo on winfows 10 2004 version crysis 3 is broken the gpu bound and that happen to me in fact i will back the 1903 version and the bug is fix included "ryse son of rome" is a
Windows problem not nvidia drivers drivers greetings from chile ;)
bad optimization.
Sounds like one sophisticated ad for Pascal users to upgrade.
Yeah that’s typically what product reviews are. Hold onto your tinfoil hat for the Big Navi reviews tho ;)
Was just pointing out the emphasis D.Foundry was putting on pascal... anyhow, as a watercooled 1080Ti user I will indeed wait until the Big Navi reviews to do a maximized informed upgrade.
@@porcupinebutter Even if AMD somehow manages to match standard rendering performance to Nvidia, I can't see any possible outcome where they can match RT performance while also offering an alternative to DLSS and other AI features Nvidia includes. They're over 2 years behind in all tech GPU now. Even if they pull out a card like they did with their CPUs, they might have good price to performance but still be the worse choice for a couple gens. Ryzen 1 and 2 were nice, but Intel was still significantly better. Now Ryzen 3 is better in most ways, but that took gens.
Brandon Johnson I don’t completely agree with that sentiment. Big Navi is using 7nm and will have better energy consumption. There is also a good chance that they will perform well on the medium range on price to performance.
@@porcupinebutter It using 7nm was a big deal back when Nvidia was still on 12nm. Nvidia now uses a custom 8nm node which is very efficient. Again, AMD is just playing catch up. And yes, they may perform well in the mid range segment. But so is Nvidia already and they haven't even announced a 3060 which is inevitable. A $499 card is already outperforming previous gen $1,299 cards. Unless AMD can provide similar performance for $399 or less, including massive amounts of RT and upscaling performance, they'll be dead on arrival as a previous gen performer.
is it just me, or seeing some games at 4k strugling with a high gpu, makes the new consoles look better purchase.
I like the fact tests were allowed on the basis of using favourable games and the resolution was limited to the most favourable for the product. Lot less impressive in 1440p.
The massive jump in power usage confirms the architecture name of "Ampere". I think all Nvidia did was just take the Turing architecture and shove a ton more cores and memory into it. It would explain the power usage and the need for such an aggressive cooler. The 4080 will probably double the performance, run cooler, and use a third of the power.
It's not really the case at all. Ampere is a compute powerhouse because of the redesign. It has some similarities to Turing but overall it has some serious changes, especially when you consider the FP 32 performance.
@@RazeAndJadith That FP32 just does not tralslate into gaming performance or real compute either (from what i've seen from eth mining), its just theoretical so far. And as always, tflops =/= performance
@@RazeAndJadith No need to take my post too seriously as it was meant to be tongue and cheak. Even if I'm right there can't always be a huge breakthrough in technology like what happened with Maxwell architecture. Sometimes you just have to make things more powerful the old fashioned way which is to just add more of everything. Sometimes new technology doesn't line up with hardware generations. That's ok. People will just have to put up with bigger PSUs and louder fans for a while until technology catches up with the performance demand.
@@OldsXCool I can always start reading books...
That aged BADLY.
Can't say I'm not jealous,have fun with the new gpu everyone! :)
Still have an Intel 630 😢
Yeah same.. i hope i can get 1..
@@omarsabir1210 gtx 750 here :)
Having a low end system has introduced me to so many hidden gems from older and niche genres,it's now mostly what I play,and for newer games I just play at 768p on medium settings.
Richard, I don't have words to appreciate the fact that you mentioned "Games Library" YES !!! Really glad that you do this of all, it's really the best thing about DF review is that you include those old titles, these games are timeless masterpieces which are dear to us. Thank you very much for that coverage on them. Rest, wished the 1080P data was shown more, and good video.
I don't see a real reason to upgrade. I'm going to wait for the 40xx series.
I think I'm just gonna wait till Gen 4 PCI-E and Gen 4 NVME become more common before I get a 3080 series card. I'm sitting on a 8700k OC'ed to around 4.7 GHz (with a 2080) and I just don't want to buy a video card that's basically telling me to build a new PC (that is only 2 years old) and I don't want or feel like doing that. So waiting till the dust settles and when motherboards and CPU's have caught up, then, I think I'll make a new build.
Edit: I don't play in 4k, but in 1440p on a 144 hz monitor. I prefer framerate with all the graphical bells and whistles over resolution.
Please stop the percentage comparison and stick to FPS.
That's why you watch Gamer's Nexus, Hardware Unboxed, Paul's Hardware, Linus Tech Tips, Optimum Tech, Level 1 Techs, Greg Salazar, Hardware Canucks, Bitwit and Jayztwocents instead of a channel that tells you to leave motion blur on in their "optimized settings" for Horizon Zero Dawn on PC and tells you to play the game at PS4 level settings. These guys do in depth console hardware reviews but not so great at PC compared to the PC only tech channels.
Stick to channels that aren't getting paid by the company whose product they are reviewing.
Why not have both?
@@Necropantz I have HZD on PC and there is nothing choppy about turning motion blur off and it's a lot smoother playing it off
@19:00 WELL SAID RICH! PC gaming isn't the same for me without that backwards compatibility. I play a LOT of old games on my 1080 Ti and would be very disappointed if I saw new cards scale poorly or negatively instead. They need to show a constant improvement for me to consider them.
Two years ago, I decided to stick with my GTX 1080 over the 2080 and did much the same for the SUPER refresh line. The 20 series seemed to be a interim type of thing with bigger gains in the offing later. Glad I waited. Now its time to upgrade!
I'm still on a GTX 970. What kind of performance boost should I expect when I upgrade to the 3080?
I have the exact same question!
That's a tricky question to ask.... resolution is a key factor here, the 3080 is pointless unless you're aiming for 4K. the card also requires a 650W+ PSU so keep that in mind.
According to techpowerup it is roughly 3 times the performance but consumes more than double the wattage.
@@codethis2875 I have a beefy PSU and do plan to go 4K. Also note that even if lower resolutions may seem pointless with current games, that will change quickly as new games come out with the next gen consoles as the baseline. But obviously the best way to compare GPU performance is by testing the highest resolution possible, even if that's at an unrealistic level like 8K, so that you never run the risk of having the CPU interfere with the performance results.
@@AndyGilleand Not entirely true. but the 3080 currently is outpriced and with some issues reported by several users. I would wait for AMD and the RTX 3070 which should be around the 2080 SUPER for 500$ at much lower power(220W)
@@codethis2875 I'm waiting for AMD and will do a comparison of performance gains vs price before I buy. I'm not concerned about power consumption as I said my PSU is a beast
I love the moment where Doom Eternal rockets to over 400 frames per second and the caption says "THIS IS NOT A JOKE"... I laughed way harder than I should have.
Watching this to prepare myself for the 3080 desktop PC arriving tomorrow. I have played on a GTX 1050 Gaming Laptop (plugged into a 1440p HDR monitor, a mechanical keyboard with a G502 wireless mouse) since 2019.
The upgrade will be worth it.
Looks like we'll need the 4000 series for next gen games, since there's not much perfomance headroom in 4k already.
People who sold their 2080tis for cheap are looking foolish right now. Aww man. 😂😂😂
Nvidia basically screwed you over twice.
After looking at several benchmarks today, I doubt that the 3070 will be as fast as the 2080Ti.
Happy to see Peter Molyneux doing alright.
I really appreciate the no nonsense review.
Straight to the numbers and important things without any of the sillyness
Keep up the great job!
Richard "ENOUGH LEVITY" Leadbetter.
Man! I can't wait to see the power of the 3090 now!
It's going to be power hungry for sure. You see that massive cooler? Lol
If you you're referring to gaming performance, don't get your hopes too high. If you extrapolate what we now know about the 3080 to the specs of the 3090, 10% gains (on average) seem likely. But we'll soon find out!
@@asplmn Yes that thing is MASSIVE! Can't wait to see the benchmarks on it. 1st time in many years may have to upgrade my PSU
Only 1 FPS difference with flight simulator 2020 at ultra setting at 1440p compared with a 2080ti. We need more powerful cpus.
With Horizon: Zero Dawn and Flight Simulator 2020, we're reaching levels of unoptimization we've never seen before! (Beside maybe GTAIV on PC)
@@CaveyMoth Arma 3 would like to know your location.
No we need dx12, vulkan games.
Dx11 is too far behind now.
or a better designed engine , its clear as night and day that this game is badly optimised
The real issue is the majority of PC's connected to steam are still 4 core, 1080p, HDD machines. Devs have no incentive or reason to take on the humongous task of multi-threading. We need people to actually upgrade. Steam stats actually show most pc's are on par with consoles or less its really laughable where the majority of devs still need to cater.
I lowkey love the background track for these videos.
Does the question and answer about VRAM requirements change based on how LONG you plan on keeping this card?
Will 10 GB be enough for CP2077 or something from 4 YEARS from now like FO5, ES6, or Starfield?
Oh please tell me they aren't pushing 8k already 🤦♂️
I will honestly be surprised if we truly see 4k 60 everywhere even with the 30 series / next gen consoles.
Still these new cards look fantastic! I doubt they are enough of a leap for me to upgrade the 2080ti - but if you're coming from the 10 or even 9 series this is a huge gain for a decent price.
I'll see y'all again for the 40 or maybe even 50 series 👍
Happy ray tracing everyone!
More like happy dlss 2.0. Way better than rt
Nvidia used you guys to set an expectation of an 80% uplift over the RTX 2080 and that's not what we got. You got played and your credibility has suffered as a result.
Monitors with 300hz refresh rate.
Me: "LOL whats the point, how often do you game at 300fps"
3080 comes: "U WHOT SON?!"
Richard sure did find a way to present the massive power consumption in a positive light and then called it criticism , very well done.
This is likely going to be the achilles heel for Nvidia compared to AMDs coming offerings.
Preparatory spin is indeed warranted.
Can’t wait to see cyberpunk running on the 3080
"1080ti not quite cutting it in some games" thems be fighting words sir.
Power Efficiency .. if an RTX was as efficient as a 15 gallon 12 cylinder Ferrari with a hole in the gas tank AND provided 2X RTX 2080 Ti for gaming then hallelujah! Hardly no one would complain.
I love how everyone at DF has made Alex Battaglia's "Corridor of Doom" a running joke and actual useful benchmark.
I don't understand why games can't run at 60FPS even with the newest gfx cards. Don't what are these devs testing their game on? NASA machines?
On 4K.
Very dissapointed 1080 ti was not on this review. Seems to have been done to make Nvidias 2nd series to look not as bad as it was but thats conjecture.
Techpot review show that RTX 3080 is 74% faster at 4K than GTX 1080 Ti
And 68% faster than RTX 2080 at 4K and 31% faster than RTX 2080 Ti 4K
@@killermoon635 are you sure I will look it up because 2080 is very close to 1080 ti, it's usually the super variant that brought noticeable differences. I just find it sad we have to look elsewhere for these results. I can't find techpot but did see gamers nexus and he at least compared the 1080 ti with rtx 2080 super.
@@isaiahhemphill3686 sorry. It is techspot
Not techpot
I made mistake
This year is nuts. RTX 3000 series, XBSX, PS5, Quest 2. Hardware overload !
NVIDIA Foundry.
Have been for years.
Remember when they benchmarked Mirrors Edge with different settings on the AMD, putting the Nvidia card ahead? They got caught and had to redo the benchmark. AMD card won.
Remember when they benched Doom 2016 and had broken BETA drivers on the AMD card, meaning the Nvidia card won by over 200%? Video was disliked, taken down and replaced with another ... where the AMD card won once they had installed an actual working driver for it.
Don't even WATCH their videos, man. Don't support that shit.
Moving from a 1080GTX, this is a huge upgrade.
Same here, ill just have to wait the price here in Brasil.
I am from 1070 GTX :)
Try coming from a 960 like me🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
@@DP85SR 970 here ^^
Likewise, I like that in the video he compared GTX 1080 vs RTX 3080!
Finally, i was getting worried playing with 250 fps in most games but i could see some worrying dips to 220 but now i can play with 400 fps which is not great but not terrible either
Lol I'm pretty sure at that framerate it's getting unplayable
I think I’m staying with my 2080 Ti for as long as I can.
Same here as well
I hope you guys think twice before letting a tech company (Nvidia) use your credibility to push misleading (false) marketing again! (referring to your exclusive 3080 hands-on video)
Interesting. But, having a gtx1070 and playing on a 1080p monitor, I don't think this is necessary.
It is, ray tracing is the future
But you will never have ray tracing and all modern games are gonna start using it.
Upgrade your monitor first
Correct. Upgrade at the same time you upgrade your monitor, otherwise you're leaving performance (money) on the table.
If you were to stay on 1080p for the next two years, you could skip this and go straight to the ballin 4000 series. :)
“Proof of the pudding” is in the “eating”
Taste, eat whatever
Yes.
In terms of measuring the quality of food, it's not whether it is edible, that much is assumed, but rather, the measurement of how good it tastes that determines its worthiness. I think "tasting" is the right choice of word here, at least contextually.
About testing older games: the very first thing I do whenever I get a new GPU is to load up my old games to see how fast they run, and how high I can crank their resolutions/settings. Crysis 1 has been one of the first games that I've loaded on every new GPU, for example, to this day.
but it doesnt use any advanced dx12 techniques , its insane to test the most unoptimised game, you can conclude nothing from it , if anything download ue4 and load a really haevy fanmade level
@@alexmehler6765 DX12? It's a DX9/DX10 game. It isn't about testing the latest and greatest features, it's about seeing how well newer hardware can run your old favourites. I also load up Half-Life 2 and see how many hundreds of FPS I can get, as well as how stupidly high I can crank DSR and antialiasing and still get playable framerates. It's about experiencing old games looking the best they possibly can, to play them at a level of quality that wasn't possible with the hardware that existed when they came out.
@@guspaz ok , I do that with emulators. For old pc games you can use reshade to bump them up.
In short upgrading from my 970m lappy to 3080 is going to blow my mind, got it.
F's in the comments for those who sold their 2080ti's for $500 :D
Im waiting for 3080ti. Apart from the 480 & the 7 series (780ti), ive had all the best nvidia GPUs since the gtx 285. e.g. Had the 980, then 980ti, 1080, 1080ti, 2080ti. The 3080 is a good card, but im not doing the short '.080' to '.80ti' jump anymore. They should release the ti at same time. When i sell, this will be the biggest drop in $ recovery ive had but thats the way it goes. You cant win them all. The 1080ti sale? holy hell i basically sold it for what i bought it for. $750(AU) import from newegg in 2017, sold for $750 in jan-feb 2019 (less ebay fees). Still strongly suggest to upgrade (you dont need the ultimate flagship but high end still) and sell often. Overall cost of ownership isnt much more and you always in high end range. Becuase it still high end when you sell you recover significant portion of $ of upgrade.
It’s nowhere near doubling a 2080...
Owning a 1080ti, happy that you showed the performance increase from this generation. Happy that i waited for this gen.
same
DF sold us the hype with first video I can't believe it.
Upgrading from the 20 series?
1080P: keep your 20 series 😊
1440P: only you really need the extra FPS 😎
4K: upgrade 👌
I agree with you (even if I think the 20 series are overkill for the 1080P anyway)
I want to add something :
4K : You REALLY wanna upgrade, UNLESS you already got the RTX 2080Ti.
We must not forget that DLSS 2.0 is doing wonders @4K60 on the RTX 2080Ti and I see more and more games gonna implement it in the future.
But if you really wanna make a jump for the 30 series, the RTX 3080 is the best strike between performance and price.
Also it wouldn't take long until nVidia releases its Super and Ti variants of these new graphics cards...
@@aminedbgt Agree 🤝
At that powerdraw, this feels a bit like a Fermi card. The performance was there too, but at what cost...
Also, absolute performance was also exaggerated by nVidia in it's reveal. I can understand why they pushed back the real reviews until a day before official release: they want to abuse ppl's FOMO to turn a blind eye to the shortcomings.
@@phoenixfieryn1257 Performance claims were not on RTX. it said typical 4K games.
The FE card might be good but it is rumored to be extremely expensive for Nvidia to make which likely means limited quantities and to make sure reviewers don't shit all over thermals and noise.
The real test would be AIB cards.
@@phoenixfieryn1257 it wasn't just for RTX in their announcement. They tried to weasel out of it that way though...
Same with the review pushback being because of the reviewers: bollocks! :D
You really should have tested the 3080 with earlier cpu's such as the 8700k or even 7700k. Reason being on another tech site it was proven the 2080ti was bottlenecked by the 8700k at 1080p. With the 10900k it gained around 20fps at that same resolution. This just proves the 3080 will be even more less utilized at 1080p with those cpu's vs the 10900k. those with an 8700k at 1440p or above shouldn't have to worry but those with a 1080p screen may think about upgrading their panel.
CaptToilet And there’s a lot more people using those two examples than the latest intel or AMD CPU’s.
still going strong with this card.
Good luck with your purchases guys. It's time to ascend. May your frames be high, and your temperatures low.
im running a 1070, I can't wait to get a 3080. More importantly, I just see dlss as the future if nvidia can make it incredibly easier to implement in future games.
Think I’m hanging on to my 1070 for now. The 3080 is only 30% than the 2080ti and uses 23% power. My 1070 does pretty well in most games at 1440p while sipping power so I think I’ll be good for another year at least.
@@PHOBIAx57x If you can wait I feel thats always best, in another year a 3080ti or some other variant will be released and you can gain more. I just want to play cyberpunk at max settings so I can't wait too much longer lol
Wait for AIB cards reviews, the coolers on these cards are extreme and designed around Ampere. Regular blower designs will probably suffer from heat
oise.
Likewise I built a new PC last year but kept my 1070ti waiting for the supers to release then decided to wait for the 3000 series so the time is now!! It shows I should at least double my FPS in Far Cry 5 at 1440p. Fingers crossed I can snag one.
I very much agree with the sentiment of a pc gamer having a library of games to play. I love that I can go to much older games and still enjoy them. We don’t have the show consoles are doing telling players what can or can’t be played on the incoming consoles.
If you have a 4k monitor you might need it, otherwise no stress.
For me the most interesting part is the superquick loading of games but windows 10 will only have support for that next year. So any upgrade can wait.