Very cool!! I have been to a few parts of China several times but only got to ride the double decker trams in Hong Kong. Love these trams and the grass filling. Thanks for the videos!!!
it's one of the oldest cities in the world at about 5,000 years in age en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing#Early_history this section starts a few kilometers from the city old walls. I show this in more detail on the video post ruclips.net/video/f4n_BB2N_f4/видео.htmlm27s
Roy Hoeksema - Wow, the confidence you displayed is astonishing. What makes you SO confident in the things you don't know?? There's a Chinese expression: 无知者无畏 -- Ignorance Knows No Fear. You sir are a fine example of that. Guess the expression holds an universal value. LOL
Brilliantly. The tram pulls energy only from the roofs of stations. Now that is an invention that honors your ancestors. Did they make a system like this for electric bus?
China unlike Canada or USA has a proactive approach to transportation,building ahead of the need instead ten or fifteen years behind the need,this tram now is probably very busy.
Kirby Bing Well Bombardier bought a lot of small European train manufacturers so that’s why Bombardier Transport is located in Germany and the R&D is stronger than in North America that doesn’t have a developed transit system like in Europe or Asia
Kirby Bing - OP was talking about urban planning. China does the planning herself. Whoever carries out the actual construction is another matter. It can be Chinese companies, or Western ones. What's so "ironic" about it? There're 350+ cities in China, it'd be stupid if Western companies decide to stand aside & not take a part of the pie. Moreover, Chinese companies can't build them all, can they? So what if they need an extra hand? That makes it "ironic"?? You'd probably find Thailand rice on the shelves of your local supermarkets, does that mean your country is so lame can't even grow your own rice that you need a 3rd world country to grow it for you?? You make perfect sense, yup yup lol
Looks like Dubai's not the only tram system with platform screen doors at its tram stops, because this system seems to have platform screen doors as well.
É sistema de "bonde'" bem diferenciado, atendendo poucos passageiros, sendo lento, dando preferências para os outros meios de transporte, inclusive os individuais e poluidores, e principalmente respeitando os pedestres. Diferenciado, é preciso ver a atuação efetiva de em situações urbanas,....
Overhead wires enable the vehicles to be lighter, more energy efficient and cheaper to run since they don't have to carry their own power. Also charging batteries has it's own energy loss. Batteries only really make sense on short, very low traffic routes.
I don't think it's a limitation of the technology. I bet the drivers are being careful. This is the first Tram line in Nanjing. It's a bit of a show case for the city. Once the 2nd Tram line is running, and these lines are common place then maybe we'll see them going a bit faster.
@Kaonnoenese吴越人 I noticed each of the cities are competitive with each other, I think Nanjing is working on a mono-rail but I'm not there to film it. Did you make a video of the one in Suzhou, I'm curious to see how it is better.
Each station has power system. When the tram stops, it's pantograph lift up, connect to charging rails which recharges it's battery, it waits at the station for a few minutes. As it leaves the station the pantograph sinks down into the Trams roof. This process repeats itself at each stop.
in China I bet it's profitable, that's because the trains and buses are always packed, of course its hard to see in this video because it's so new. In Japan the train systems are also profitable. ruclips.net/video/_3xJihchuQg/видео.htmlm39s
A few minutes?! So do people NOT complain about waiting for so long at each stop? Imagine if you travel 10, 20 stops, that'd mean 1~2 hrs of not moving. Taking a bus or subway is probably a lot faster. What is the benefit of having this tram system then?
I agree the tracks didn't look good, China is famous for cutting corners with picking poor quality steel, I'm sure the tracks will need replacing soon.
@Nij Jin They're adding more of these lines in Nanjing it will be interesting to know who won the next contract. Do you know how one could find this out?
@Nij Jin no worries on the language you can use Chinese as I can have it translated, If you were in Nanjing, I wonder if I visited your shop as I enjoyed that part of the city too www.flickr.com/photos/how2what4/7079522237/
It's been running a loss. The tram line runs through an area where no one stays, no shopping malls are built, no major places of interests or attraction. Many call it a white elephant as trams have been running empty.
I bet in 5 years time we'll see a difference. Nanjing Metro Line 2 was exactly like this 5 years ago but now it's super busy ruclips.net/video/hi2nBiNzsvA/видео.html
Jere Cullen you can’t imagine the pace of change in China - it’s mind boggling! The city planners have been laying out infrastructure ahead of demand to accommodate the migration of people from the rural parts of China to the cities. So this video shows the recently developed rural fringes of Nanjing which will probably look like many of the larger coastal cities in a few years. You ought to visit to understand what’s going on in China - there’s a lot of misconceptions about China that’s rather dated.
well some of them are in CBD areas, as well as YOG areas. and further ones are built in undeveloped areas (that are going to be developed within the decade) to save costs.
Canada Bomberdiar Company is bankrupt and could be replaced by CRCC and CASIC.CRCC could used the right of way for a medium speed maglev train on piers..CRCC has built two maglev lines,one in Changsha,the red line in Beijing and 10 more others.CASIC is building the C929 that can flies over the Pacific Ocean or Atlantic Ocean in less than two hours using four turbo-scram jet engines.Typed Wang Zhenguo and VLRAAM into your computer to find more information on China s 6th generation airpanes.The PL-21 VLRAAM that flies at mach 6 speed is based on the turbo-scram jet engine
I've used the Maglev line in Shanghai and it's the best way to get to the Airport. It works because it takes a 50-minute car ride and shortens it to 10 minutes. A maglev line here doesn't make sense because the distances between stations are too short. What I will say are after living in Copenhagen is the roads in China are too wide. South Korea has the same wide road problem. The real solution for cities is banning cars and only allowing walking, biking, and public transit services.
Corrine Bombardier is not bankrupt, but has had some contractual problems, due in part to some of the production difficulties in some of it's contracts it took on which included tight turning tracks in some cases and none standard trackway, which any company could come up against. And don't confuse the problems of the air and rail divisions they are separate problems. Lots of big companies come up against difficulties in the business world and survive. Trading difficulties are also not the same as poor quality of product, some companies that buy take the cheap now route and pay with a poor quality product down the line. Take Transport for London and the Boris Bus.
I've seen that same type of system in Germany, Finland and Prague. I haven't seen that style of payment system in Asia and I don't think it would work. It would be almost impossible to enforce. The amount of people using Public transport in Asia is about 10 times of what I've seen in Europe.
That is the same in China. You can always buy tickets from a machine, but frequent users prefer prepaid metro cards because they don't want to waste their time to buy tickets each time.
Look up "transit oriented development". The way China's cities are growing, that area won't remain undeveloped for long. Besides, mass transit never makes money. The highest fare box recovery in the world is 50% of direct operating expense, and the average is down around 30%.
A lot of countries outsife of the "west" these days are designing newer buildings/transport systems/etc with accessibility in mind, you'd be surprised!
I don't like it when they share the roads. Better to have them underground or elevated. No chance another vehicle or pedestrian making contact. Also, wouldn't be stuck in traffic if accident blocks path.
for the most part this line doesn't share the road, the exception are at the crossings. My preference I prefer all trains to be above grade, I find taking the train under ground to be boring. In all these cases where trains are above grade, they don't share the road with cars. In Tokyo for instance the majority of the city JR lines are above ground and make for an interesting way to see the city. ruclips.net/video/q72G1ryUAx0/видео.html
Solution = move cars underground so the pedestrians can enjoy the city whilst the ones rushing to escape/enter can beep and get stuck where nobody sees them :))
neither do cables, it may have been cheaper, in the long run, to just install the cables above the tracks like in a traditional cable car. A battery powered tram makes no sense to me. like wtf is china thinking.
I'm a train and I approve this video!! :D
Oh hey train
Very cool!! I have been to a few parts of China several times but only got to ride the double decker trams in Hong Kong. Love these trams and the grass filling. Thanks for the videos!!!
Wow China looks like a very modern and beautiful place.
Well things are a lot darker behind their facade let me tell you that
C. Lincoln it isn't, this just is a completely new city.
it's one of the oldest cities in the world at about 5,000 years in age en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing#Early_history this section starts a few kilometers from the city old walls. I show this in more detail on the video post ruclips.net/video/f4n_BB2N_f4/видео.htmlm27s
Roy Hoeksema - Wow, the confidence you displayed is astonishing. What makes you SO confident in the things you don't know?? There's a Chinese expression: 无知者无畏 -- Ignorance Knows No Fear. You sir are a fine example of that. Guess the expression holds an universal value. LOL
Tofu I only said that this is a completely new city. Which it clearly is. It being an expansion of another city doesn’t mean it isn’t a new community.
Brilliantly. The tram pulls energy only from the roofs of stations. Now that is an invention that honors your ancestors.
Did they make a system like this for electric bus?
I saw version of this in Shanghai with buses and I've seen a similar version as well with the buses in Copenhagen
C est vraiment impressionnant un tramway fonctionnant avec des batteries au lithium
and it first started running in 2014 ruclips.net/video/YBIIC27NTZo/видео.html
The can put a wire on floor...where there's no pedestrian risk.
This can reduce the build cost with batteries.
This reminds me of videos of Pyongyang, North Korea; very wide boulevards with almost no cars or trucks. Not even that many people around.
they most likely have yet to extend the city out that far. notice that the stop there is actually next to a field!
very MODERN and CLEAN transport****
A great country China, very clean and orderly in which we are very proud.
China unlike Canada or USA has a proactive approach to transportation,building ahead of the need instead ten or fifteen years behind the need,this tram now is probably very busy.
+john chow part of the reason I made this video was to return in 10 years to make a similar video and show this difference
The irony of this is, the manufacturer Bombardier is a Canadian company.
john chow most of their new city's get left abandonded
Kirby Bing Well Bombardier bought a lot of small European train manufacturers so that’s why Bombardier Transport is located in Germany and the R&D is stronger than in North America that doesn’t have a developed transit system like in Europe or Asia
Kirby Bing - OP was talking about urban planning. China does the planning herself. Whoever carries out the actual construction is another matter. It can be Chinese companies, or Western ones. What's so "ironic" about it? There're 350+ cities in China, it'd be stupid if Western companies decide to stand aside & not take a part of the pie. Moreover, Chinese companies can't build them all, can they? So what if they need an extra hand? That makes it "ironic"?? You'd probably find Thailand rice on the shelves of your local supermarkets, does that mean your country is so lame can't even grow your own rice that you need a 3rd world country to grow it for you?? You make perfect sense, yup yup lol
lovely 7 lane pedestrian crossing in the middle of the video
Looks like Dubai's not the only tram system with platform screen doors at its tram stops, because this system seems to have platform screen doors as well.
Bro this video is 5 years old
wow they need track renewal
Cual es el significado del movimiento que hace el conductor con la mano en 2:06, 2:19, 3:27, ???
Ino Suárez he’s pointing at the signals and the switches to check his work
Standard conductor procedure for some Asian countries
great Video!
thanks much appreciated
That looks slower than the O-bahn
yup it was slow but delightful fun to ride
A bit of a cross between a street trolly and a innercity subway yes but its just another train!
É sistema de "bonde'" bem diferenciado, atendendo poucos passageiros, sendo lento, dando preferências para os outros meios de transporte, inclusive os individuais e poluidores, e principalmente respeitando os pedestres. Diferenciado, é preciso ver a atuação efetiva de em situações urbanas,....
they built transportation first before the building & the city itself 😯
How do they ReCharge????
they recharge at each station
Yes, exactly what we need in our country. No wires, no cabled. Big busses and trams.
Overhead wires enable the vehicles to be lighter, more energy efficient and cheaper to run since they don't have to carry their own power. Also charging batteries has it's own energy loss. Batteries only really make sense on short, very low traffic routes.
AWESOME
big arteries , no traffic
The end of line is an Rural Zone ?
The London Underground was built the same way. Housing development payed for its construction.
Зачем питать трамвай от батареи?
The size of those roads, US roads are nothing in their shadow....
In Seoul and Manila the city roads are just as massive
They seem painfully slow - never seeming to get above 20mph. Journey times must be very long.
I don't think it's a limitation of the technology. I bet the drivers are being careful. This is the first Tram line in Nanjing. It's a bit of a show case for the city. Once the 2nd Tram line is running, and these lines are common place then maybe we'll see them going a bit faster.
The designed speed is 70kph.
@Kaonnoenese吴越人 I noticed each of the cities are competitive with each other, I think Nanjing is working on a mono-rail but I'm not there to film it. Did you make a video of the one in Suzhou, I'm curious to see how it is better.
Very nice. How is it powered?
Each station has power system. When the tram stops, it's pantograph lift up, connect to charging rails which recharges it's battery, it waits at the station for a few minutes. As it leaves the station the pantograph sinks down into the Trams roof. This process repeats itself at each stop.
That's amazing. China is so far ahead of the US. Thanks.
Is it profitable at all? Or is it the typical story...
in China I bet it's profitable, that's because the trains and buses are always packed, of course its hard to see in this video because it's so new. In Japan the train systems are also profitable. ruclips.net/video/_3xJihchuQg/видео.htmlm39s
A few minutes?! So do people NOT complain about waiting for so long at each stop? Imagine if you travel 10, 20 stops, that'd mean 1~2 hrs of not moving. Taking a bus or subway is probably a lot faster. What is the benefit of having this tram system then?
ThomasHöhle Leipziger LVB Bus 80E
The train is cool, but those tracks look and sound like they are 100+ years old. Chinese pot metal?
I agree the tracks didn't look good, China is famous for cutting corners with picking poor quality steel, I'm sure the tracks will need replacing soon.
@Nij Jin They're adding more of these lines in Nanjing it will be interesting to know who won the next contract. Do you know how one could find this out?
@Nij Jin no worries on the language you can use Chinese as I can have it translated, If you were in Nanjing, I wonder if I visited your shop as I enjoyed that part of the city too www.flickr.com/photos/how2what4/7079522237/
It's been running a loss. The tram line runs through an area where no one stays, no shopping malls are built, no major places of interests or attraction. Many call it a white elephant as trams have been running empty.
I bet in 5 years time we'll see a difference. Nanjing Metro Line 2 was exactly like this 5 years ago but now it's super busy ruclips.net/video/hi2nBiNzsvA/видео.html
Jere Cullen - they haven't yet built the empty ghost city that a Chinese worker's income can't afford to rent
Jere Cullen you can’t imagine the pace of change in China - it’s mind boggling! The city planners have been laying out infrastructure ahead of demand to accommodate the migration of people from the rural parts of China to the cities. So this video shows the recently developed rural fringes of Nanjing which will probably look like many of the larger coastal cities in a few years. You ought to visit to understand what’s going on in China - there’s a lot of misconceptions about China that’s rather dated.
The stations look like they’re not near anything
well some of them are in CBD areas, as well as YOG areas. and further ones are built in undeveloped areas (that are going to be developed within the decade) to save costs.
Canada Bomberdiar Company is bankrupt and could be replaced by CRCC and CASIC.CRCC could used the right of way for a medium speed maglev train on piers..CRCC has built two maglev lines,one in Changsha,the red line in Beijing and 10 more others.CASIC is building the C929 that can flies over the Pacific Ocean or Atlantic Ocean in less than two hours using four turbo-scram jet engines.Typed Wang Zhenguo and VLRAAM into your computer to find more information on China s 6th generation airpanes.The PL-21 VLRAAM that flies at mach 6 speed is based on the turbo-scram jet engine
I've used the Maglev line in Shanghai and it's the best way to get to the Airport. It works because it takes a 50-minute car ride and shortens it to 10 minutes. A maglev line here doesn't make sense because the distances between stations are too short.
What I will say are after living in Copenhagen is the roads in China are too wide. South Korea has the same wide road problem. The real solution for cities is banning cars and only allowing walking, biking, and public transit services.
Corrine Bombardier is not bankrupt, but has had some contractual problems, due in part to some of the production difficulties in some of it's contracts it took on which included tight turning tracks in some cases and none standard trackway, which any company could come up against. And don't confuse the problems of the air and rail divisions they are separate problems. Lots of big companies come up against difficulties in the business world and survive. Trading difficulties are also not the same as poor quality of product, some companies that buy take the cheap now route and pay with a poor quality product down the line. Take Transport for London and the Boris Bus.
It's good to hear Bombardier is not bankrupt!
How is the fare paid?
Used a prepaid metro card, which can be used on the cities buses, metro line, ferris, taxis and this tram. This ride cost about 6 RMB.
Oh ok. We have a light rail system here where you buy a ticket from a machine and validate it and board.
I've seen that same type of system in Germany, Finland and Prague. I haven't seen that style of payment system in Asia and I don't think it would work. It would be almost impossible to enforce. The amount of people using Public transport in Asia is about 10 times of what I've seen in Europe.
That is the same in China. You can always buy tickets from a machine, but frequent users prefer prepaid metro cards because they don't want to waste their time to buy tickets each time.
wechat pay
But you don't show us how it works!
I just think it's funny how the end of the line is in the middle of a field with no houses around it. That's got to make money for suuuuuuuure.
China is growing fast, I presume they have that there as they expect new housing development there soon
Look up "transit oriented development". The way China's cities are growing, that area won't remain undeveloped for long. Besides, mass transit never makes money. The highest fare box recovery in the world is 50% of direct operating expense, and the average is down around 30%.
It's called future proof.
The London underground built several lines to nowhere and the housing followed after.
DrDewott
It the end of the line.
Better in a field as in a busy street, don't you think?
THATS THE BLACKPOOL TRAM
Technically it's the same type Blackpool uses only battery powered.
I didnt know that China cared about the disabled by purchasing a low floor tram LOL
They got these for the 2014 Youth Olympics and I’m quite certain it was in the spec sheet from the Olympic committee
ahhh OK
A lot of countries outsife of the "west" these days are designing newer buildings/transport systems/etc with accessibility in mind, you'd be surprised!
Legal
I don't like it when they share the roads. Better to have them underground or elevated. No chance another vehicle or pedestrian making contact. Also, wouldn't be stuck in traffic if accident blocks path.
for the most part this line doesn't share the road, the exception are at the crossings. My preference I prefer all trains to be above grade, I find taking the train under ground to be boring. In all these cases where trains are above grade, they don't share the road with cars. In Tokyo for instance the majority of the city JR lines are above ground and make for an interesting way to see the city. ruclips.net/video/q72G1ryUAx0/видео.html
Underground is too expensive. And elevated is bad for the noise of the vehicle that travels longer distances.
Solution = move cars underground so the pedestrians can enjoy the city whilst the ones rushing to escape/enter can beep and get stuck where nobody sees them :))
clonk
America transportation is nothing compare to China
浪費土地的交通工具
simcity...
不懂别说，世界上一大堆有轨电车都浪费土地了，你要这土地干嘛？共用路权不懂？
Batteries fail. Oil and gas do not.
neither do cables, it may have been cheaper, in the long run, to just install the cables above the tracks like in a traditional cable car. A battery powered tram makes no sense to me. like wtf is china thinking.
@@sielsm3743 maybe because they have abundant of lithium
@@fab8490 oh i didnt know that, still much less efficient though
You fail.
They just get more expensive before they run out...