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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Wild Men's Dance (aka Danse Sauvage) is a piano work by Russian-American composer Leo Ornstein, dating from either 1913 or 1914. It is widely regarded as the first classical composition to be composed almost entirely of brash tone clusters, predating the "forearm" music of Henry Cowell by a few years. In 1918, critic Charles L. Buchanan described Ornstein's innovation: "[He] gives us masses of shrill, hard dissonances, chords consisting of anywhere from eight to a dozen notes made up of half tones heaped one upon another."
Ornstein had begun composing works containing dissonant and startling sounds in the early 1910s. Ornstein himself was unsettled by the earliest of these compositions: "I really doubted my sanity at first. I simply said, what is that? It was so completely removed from any experience I ever had." On March 27, 1914, in London, he gave his first public performance of works under the banner of "futurism", now known as modernism. Wild Men's Dance was the foremost piece of these concerts.
Music scholar Gordon Rumson would describe Wild Men's Dance as, "a work of vehement, unruly rhythm, compounded of dense chord clusters [...] and brutal accents. Complex rhythms and gigantic crashing chords traverse the whole range of the piano. This remains a work for a great virtuoso able to imbue it with a burning, ferocious energy."
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SO54 "Wild Men's Dance (aka Danse Sauvage)" by Leo Ornstein, composed in 1913.
(+) Interesting fact 1: This piece was dedicated to his mom lol
(+) Interesting fact 2: Ornstein born in 1893 and died in 2002 (108 years), often regarded as longest lived classical music composer ever
P.f Marc Andre Hamelin, live performance
“I love classical music,” they all say. “It’s so relaxing.”
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Technically this is NOT classical music.
@@hardinmichael1981 In the musicological sense, no. "Classical" denotes a specific period between Baroque and Romantic. In the general sense, it's "classical music." This sure wasn't on the Radio Hit Parade in the 30s ;)
Alternatively, people say they don't love it because it is boring. I share them this lol
@@Snardbafulatorthis isn't classical in any sense. In narrow sense, it's not a period before romanticism. In the broad sense, classical music is academic music, created by trained composers who follow some canons and traditions. In the third sense, "classics" can be some very influential or important compositions of any style or genre, for example, the classics of popmusic of 90s. You don't call Jazz classical music. And you don't call electronic music as classical. And the same way modernist experimentalism of Ornstein is completely a different trend in music, but not in classical music.
Interesting music because you can save the cost of the tuning...
Or the piano will need tuning afterwards ;)
When literally everything is loud, how do you play a sfz on piano?
I can't tell whether I like this or not 💀
Same
The craziest part is you can hear the normal music under the all the clusters
That's what fundamentally different from the New Colplexity ex) Michhael Finnissy, etc.
@@melonica90 Well... there's plenty of music that isn't New Complexity in which you can't hear the underlying normality, so I wouldn't necessarily say that's the fundamental difference...
You could say the same about the Rite of Spring. There are plenty of flashy instrumental bursts, but all the themes are simple, most are diatonic and harmonically the block-structured sections are built on pedal-point ostinati. This doesn't take away from its revolutionary character, though.
@@Snardbafulator Indeed. It's not the materials but what you do with them.
I misread the title as "sad" instead of "mad"
I was expecting some slow sentimental nocturne or something...didn't mentally prepare myself for this..
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i mean they would be miserable if this was all you played...
Jokes aside, it was a pretty amazing performance by the Hamelin. Surprised this, despite the immense dissonance, did not sound like a mess. The voicing was very sound.
It's harder for the player than for the audience.
We love a piece that's both a historical landmark and a meme ❤
don't know about "easiest"...
actually hardest way
Hahahaha nice.
@@melonica90 7 note cluster chords, 10ths, leaps, hand crossing, and blistering speed is definitely not easiest 💀💀
Just put a mic to your piano and put the speakers on full blast. That should do the trick.
So melodic! I’m sure I’ll be humming it all day tomorrow.
“Mums” was not his mother, but his piano teacher - a lady to whom such music was allegedly quite anathema!
The title of this video actually made me want me listen to it. I don't regret it. :-))
The sudden stop into the Furioso (1:27) is outright terrifying
There direction in it, I kinda like it
Honestly, this looks signifcantly harder to play than tonal music. Sure they sound random, but you gotta play what's written and *make it* sound random. That's impressive.
Exactly!
Exactly why im studying this piece 😂
People generally dislike Boulezs piano works, but he doesn't come close to this on sheer discordant and unrelenting aggression. Oh la la!
Speaking as someone who absolutely LOVES Boulez, this piece is far easier to get a proper hold of since you can latch onto very well-defined rhythmic patterns and even some motivic elements. Boulez comes off to me as mostly textural in nature; it is rare that something other than a specific gesture is consistently present throughout an entire work of his.
Great performance
You know, DJs in the 50s wouldn't play regional R&B records and record producers wouldn't release them if they had a "distorted guitar." How far we have come. Reminds me of some of the reactionary comments at the bottom of this thread ;) I've been a Cecil Taylor fan for decades. This stuff is second nature to me.
This piece is nicknamed, “Puppies and Rainbows”…
This is surprisingly coherent. Wa????????
Much more tolerable than Boulez’s 2nd Sonata or some of Stockhausen’s stuff
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This is metal AF. I particularly dig the meter changes, which are all easily followable. But what do I know? I adore French mathcore ;) Oh, there's a two-piano _Le Sacre_ up by a Japanese duet and one guy plays bass clusters with his foot ;)
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Okay, I admit it, this is better than Koskinen.
LOL
too many fortes
Rzewski’s Squares are great, particularly No. 1
Pour music publisher
Ravel’s valse in the style of Stravinsky’s Rite of Spring
I have heard similar from a three year old child when seated at the piano for the first time and giving vent to his new found 'talent'! Stop that now, insists the child's mother! You'll break it!! Apologies to composer and pianist, but I'm honest and this was my first impression on hearing the piece.
Wrong note at 1:24- unacceptable.
Not bad at all! In therms melodic I realized that piece following certain rules of reinascense until begin romantic melodic notations.
listen to danaza argentina third movement, dance of cowboy. It’s similar
actually low key fire
Eat your heart out, Scriabin and Ravel. Lo!
Your spiritual avatar is hungry...
I'm missing one note in the cluster at 1:17, but i don't know what
the fisher price "my first piano piece" experience
Grandioso e magnificente!!❤🎶🎶
Such an avant-garde masterpiece 😂
I think this is a high level music, so high that my brain confused how to react to it
So you are confused about a piece, dont understand it and your first reaction is to call it a masterpiece... nice one
@@ToxicTurtleIsMad I'd like to think positive about anything beyond what my brain can adsorb 😂😂
precision (i guess) from MAH
Bravo!!
Entartete Kunst!
Wenn ich mich an das Piano blind setze, kommt ähnliches zum Klingeln.
Except there is a structure and there are themes, of sorts. It's not accidental (though there are plenty of accidentals in the score -- OK, bad pun). It does seem to have only one thing to say, though. I know there are plenty of sweetness and light piano pieces that also have only one thing to say. Another commenter described it as "unrelenting aggression." Yes, unrelenting. One can ask if unmitigated savagery is all that interesting. King Kong, with his affection for Ann Darrow mitigating his anger at being captured and his savagery is much more interesting than the original Godzilla, who seems to revel in destruction. I suggest that if you want to force James Bond to give you information, though, you put him in a cell with this playing in a loop. Of course, you do have to reckon with Q having given him a pill to make him temporarily deaf.
Doch!
nice af
Some people tell madness is a kind of genius. I think it´s simply madness - nothing else. Only abnorm brains are able to enjoy this.
Помоему проще попой сесть на фортепиано и получится примерно тоже самое 🫢🙄
Что вы ожидали от фортепианной музыки 20 века?
@@JohannSebastianBach-1685 На я уже изложил выше что ожидал 🤣