the driver reacted so quick to the loss of power to the ground...I'm impressed with that reaction time.......He launches it, and within it seems a second the diff blows, and he lets go almost immediately...Good driver!
If anything, the later models resembled Vegas. The word "Torana' is an Aussie Aboriginal word that means "to fly." And is Australia, cars were referred to by series, rather than the year they were built, because the series often ran longer than just one model year like we do in the States. I'm more familiar with the Aussie Chryslers, but this applies to most older cars sold in Australia.
Ford stopped painting their cars black with the 1928 Model A. However in 91930-1931 they did revive the all black Ford Model A color. Many 1930 and 1931 model A's were black but there were many colors that were much more in demand than black.
I understand what you're saying. Everyone has their own preferences. I prefer the 9-inch because it's one of the best in that size range (D44, Ford 8.8", GM 10 and 12-Bolts, etc.). Of course, for overall rote strength, a D60 would be the best.
No leaf springs, in fact you can actually see the car has aftermarket coil overs in the rear which means they've converted the rear to ladder bar or 4-link suspension. Nine-inch diffs aren't infallible.
@gokartbuyer It couldn't be because the Torino was a Ford and the Torana is a Holden (Australian General Motors). The car was built as a smaller version of its stablemate, the Holden Monaro, which was essentially the Aussie version of the mid-sized Camaro or Chevelle.
My dad claims to have stripped the gears off a ring gear, except for one tooth. So the car would move forward... occasionally. That car apparently went through quite a number of rear-ends.
@amc75matador still with slicks tension is massively increase..for fwd cars their transmissions usually have to be beef'd up with performance shafts and other internals to handle the added strain of high torque + slicks.
I did something similar to my FJ I had years ago...hot grey,triple carbs...gave it the boot one night and snapped the yoke on the diff....it was a bit of a weakness with the standard diffs in them.
Don't matter what you tell some people, prejudice or just plain rude (IQ test needed), rather than facts get in the way. Those Toyota diff's are amazing, used to get used in a lot of rally cars over here. You would think there would be an aftermarket for them, or maybe that just tells you how good they are, you wouldn't sell many parts.
Did wonder where these toranas were from, thanks for sharing! Also, they sure do seem american so seems like aussies can do more than hunt crocodiles :D
Judging by how much the car squatted on takeoff (right rear tire especially) I would wonder if the car had leaf springs. That kind of damage is not atypical for pinion angles getting too extreme. Bottom line, a properly prepped 9" could handle that car and more.
@ph33x yeah, i do. its a supercharged torana, which 2 my understanding is made by holden, and it doesnt say anywhere that its using a ford diff, so how do u know its running a ford diff?
Yes correct, but this "discussion" is on the relative strength merits of standard diffs viz. 9" and Toyota Stout. The 9" has an extremely low pinion that when used with a stock factory gear has a huge area of contact which is where its strength comes from. An old Stout diff is just an intrinsically strong design. Unfortunately there are about 0 aftermarket parts for the Stout diff. 9" also have easy ratio change + parts are cheap, The design is only moderately strong explaining why they break
the driver reacted so quick to the loss of power to the ground...I'm impressed with that reaction time.......He launches it, and within it seems a second the diff blows, and he lets go almost immediately...Good driver!
"... so much torque, that the chassis twisted comin' off the line ..."
told you jb weld wouldn't hold it
Gorilla glue I used that shit on everything.
That really grinds my gears.
12 years later and that only has 5 likes - unfair world.
"Hey I just met you, and this is crazy, but here's your driveshaft, buy a new one maybe?"
Lol
When you explode a ford 9'', you know you've got some serious power under the hood.
If anything, the later models resembled Vegas. The word "Torana' is an Aussie Aboriginal word that means "to fly." And is Australia, cars were referred to by series, rather than the year they were built, because the series often ran longer than just one model year like we do in the States. I'm more familiar with the Aussie Chryslers, but this applies to most older cars sold in Australia.
love it how the adverts ALWAYS come up - or you're trying to get rid of them - at the crucial moment
That would make a good commercial for those U- joints.Whoever made them.
Now THAT is some serious torque!
Ford stopped painting their cars black with the 1928 Model A. However in 91930-1931 they did revive the all black Ford Model A color. Many 1930 and 1931 model A's were black but there were many colors that were much more in demand than black.
jezuz christ this guy should write a book, destroying diffs 101!
Oooops I knew there was something else I should have changed, that stock rear. that car is badass man!
That’s hardcore Australian grunt for you .👌
This looks like fun, it must be even better in the drivers seat..
Some of that good Austalian track bite :)
"Clean up in aisle 2 please!"
I understand what you're saying. Everyone has their own preferences. I prefer the 9-inch because it's one of the best in that size range (D44, Ford 8.8", GM 10 and 12-Bolts, etc.). Of course, for overall rote strength, a D60 would be the best.
Well, that just prove that there is a thing as too much power :D
That burnout was amazing, nonetheless.
And today on " Just rolled in " customer states ............
No leaf springs, in fact you can actually see the car has aftermarket coil overs in the rear which means they've converted the rear to ladder bar or 4-link suspension. Nine-inch diffs aren't infallible.
@gokartbuyer It couldn't be because the Torino was a Ford and the Torana is a Holden (Australian General Motors). The car was built as a smaller version of its stablemate, the Holden Monaro, which was essentially the Aussie version of the mid-sized Camaro or Chevelle.
It's a 9", you can tell by the pinion and pinion carrier that is connected to the driveshaft.
he found the vid funny he doesnt seem a hater, on the other hand you seem a hater. And it was funny, nobody got hurt and its only a differential.
he said it was a 9 second car, but apparently he was all torque.
looks like a good day in racing
Still hooked hard and went straight! 🎉
The u-joint held though!
This is a good thing to break, means your making progress.
The differential: will it blend?
Yes...
@gokartbuyer It an Aussie Torana which we never got in the US.
My dad claims to have stripped the gears off a ring gear, except for one tooth. So the car would move forward... occasionally. That car apparently went through quite a number of rear-ends.
@amc75matador
still with slicks tension is massively increase..for fwd cars their transmissions usually have to be beef'd up with performance shafts and other internals to handle the added strain of high torque + slicks.
Well thats one way to get the diff out quickly.
I did something similar to my FJ I had years ago...hot grey,triple carbs...gave it the boot one night and snapped the yoke on the diff....it was a bit of a weakness with the standard diffs in them.
@AtariFTW You have to put bolts to hold that pinion retainer in place. RTV itself obviously is not enough.
"Well, there's ya problem!"
Like dad always said, “that’s racing”🤷🏼♂️
Max Rockatansky aprooves this Car !!!
im sure a lucky fan got a souvenir that day... lol
Actually Holden was just the australian subsidiary of GM so.. technically.. it's still an am musc.
Those tires tho
Don't matter what you tell some people, prejudice or just plain rude (IQ test needed), rather than facts get in the way. Those Toyota diff's are amazing, used to get used in a lot of rally cars over here. You would think there would be an aftermarket for them, or maybe that just tells you how good they are, you wouldn't sell many parts.
captain, she cant handle the pressure!!
frickin ad popped up and made me miss the best damn part D:
Driver: alright im gonna nail this launch
Car: nahh fuck this
More power than it can handle
"MECHANIC MIKE! Goddamnit, my differential blew up again!"
"Ohh... That sucks... (Wait, what are these bolts in my pocket..?)"
I cant believe how small that drive shaft is.
Car - "I don want this driveshaft no-more!"
Wow, shaft still connected to the pinion and everything.
that looks like it blew the connection of half-axle to the diff on the right side, not the diff itself?
Duct tape will fix that.
In the early years, Henry Ford said you can have any color car you want... as long as it's black.
well.. it's fair to say..that that was ALLOT OF FUCKING POWER.
@gokartbuyer - Mate, a Torana is much smaller than a Gran Torino - probably smaller than an AMC Hornet.
i knew i shouldn't of have taco bell before the race
Did wonder where these toranas were from, thanks for sharing! Also, they sure do seem american so seems like aussies can do more than hunt crocodiles :D
LOL, most people wouldn't get that joke. Ford stopped painting their cars all black after the Model T. :)
I can smell the diff fluid from my computer
That will buff right out.
thumbs up if u thought the driver was embarrassed by this
@CruiserTuning good thing i read your comment before the vid started so i could turn down the volume ;)
Judging by how much the car squatted on takeoff (right rear tire especially) I would wonder if the car had leaf springs. That kind of damage is not atypical for pinion angles getting too extreme. Bottom line, a properly prepped 9" could handle that car and more.
@ph33x yeah, i do. its a supercharged torana, which 2 my understanding is made by holden, and it doesnt say anywhere that its using a ford diff, so how do u know its running a ford diff?
When you have that kinda power its not hard to find the weak spots..
People happily stand that close when flying pieces of metal aren't over unusual?
OUCH, I've only had the U-Joints in my truck ripped out, but never had the diffs blow off.
@watsdissniffinere , I suppose that explains why holdens use ford 9' diffs and toploaders ? funny cause i've never seen an ford with a 10 bolt.
Can't blame Lucas Electrics on that one...
Bad Day.... What does it run when it makes a pass...I can only guess by the laundry on the back
must have been a fair bit of power!
17 ppl thins "pfft my civic never did that"
I wonder how much preload he had in it?
Yes correct, but this "discussion" is on the relative strength merits of standard diffs viz. 9" and Toyota Stout.
The 9" has an extremely low pinion that when used with a stock factory gear has a huge area of contact which is where its strength comes from.
An old Stout diff is just an intrinsically strong design.
Unfortunately there are about 0 aftermarket parts for the Stout diff.
9" also have easy ratio change + parts are cheap, The design is only moderately strong explaining why they break
was that a ford 9" pinion attached to the driveshaft at the end?
This is a sign you have enough horsepower for that diff.. now get better diff and increase the hp^^
Damn good u joints, gear made by Mattel
Nice. I bet the owner was glad that didn't happen when he was doing 120 down the line.
Holy fuck was that the pinion from the rear end?! Good god lol
@Garselo because maybe theres a lot more power on it so they need one that can handle it idk? but anyways all parts fail sometimes
Lucky it went at the start line and not at the finish line!
no driveshaft safety loop?
that car's all torque
bummer on the diff mate
and why do the shitty google ads always appear JUST when something good happens?
camera man zooms in on the driveshaft..."well there's yer problem!"
@rx7brad13b
It was in Sydney.
Looks like someone packed that diff with c4.
Quick timin on the throttle mate! I recon I woulda been revin shit outta it wonderin why it wont go! Better luck next time!
Holy shit it ripped the pinion right out.
@isamike and that's a 186 with heaps of piston slap too.
First time i have ever seena rear axle come apart that much .
@AtariFTW
Sure was.
with tyres of that size what do you want ?
i'd feel bad spilling oil on the track.
All that power... On a stock rear end.
Why aren't parts of the diff made of artificial diamond
Shouldnt have used home Depot bolts to hold the pinion in!
the fucking ad popped up when it blew
they're using a 9" haha