Will This Adapter Set Fire To Your PC?

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2021
  • Considering my recent video, SATA to PCI-E 8 pin adapters seem to be controversial, but how easy is it to get them to set your PC on fire?
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  • @martinturner5484
    @martinturner5484 2 года назад +611

    Your OptiPlex is about 2 generations newer than the ones we are still using at work. You'd love them, about half of them have been upgraded with a GT710.

    • @AliceC993
      @AliceC993 2 года назад +113

      "Upgraded"

    • @Bovata
      @Bovata 2 года назад +10

      f

    • @ProjectDamo
      @ProjectDamo 2 года назад +103

      @@AliceC993 a GT710 can be a crazy good upgrade, if you're coming from Integrated graphics..

    • @jordangames2560
      @jordangames2560 2 года назад +25

      @@ProjectDamo when upgrading from intel extreme graphics from when nehalem was the hottest stuff

    • @XT-hw4zv
      @XT-hw4zv 2 года назад +10

      I have a gt 210

  • @igors_lv
    @igors_lv 2 года назад +343

    Remember that pcie slot is supposed to provide 75W to the card, so up to 150-200W cards should be more or less fine
    Gtx 960 is 120 w card
    I would be more worried about how much PSU can provide on 12 v rail

    • @Aaron_Jensen
      @Aaron_Jensen 2 года назад +32

      Thank you for typing that so I don't have too. Also a good PSU should be able to deliver it's full wattage rating across the 12v rail(s).

    • @micobugija6284
      @micobugija6284 2 года назад +16

      A good PSU will provide all of its power on 12V
      And, depends on the cards wiring. Some barely draw 10-15W on the PCIe slot.

    • @macieklukasiewicz8176
      @macieklukasiewicz8176 2 года назад +17

      most gpus dont actually draw 75w from the mobo, they usually try to draw as much as possible from the pcie power connectors. My 3080ti with unlocked power limit draws 398w overall and only 48w from the mobo

    • @jonathanellis6097
      @jonathanellis6097 2 года назад +7

      @@macieklukasiewicz8176 yeah I was gonna say this, depends on how the car has been set up, some will use power via the slot, others seem to avoid it as much as possible.

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  2 года назад +63

      For sure! I should pair a single sata to PCIe 8 Pin adapter with a much worse PSU and see if that gets something to fail.

  • @dapz
    @dapz 2 года назад +185

    the 8 pin gpu power draw as per pci-sig’s specs is 150W but each 12V pin on the 8 pin connector itself should be able to carry up to 9A before things get hot based off molex’s specifications for mini ft jr.
    that means you could get up to 324W at 12V going through a single pcie 8 pin power connector. I wouldn’t recommend it but it’s possible lol
    Maybe if you do a sequel video you can try using that crazy power mod on a Vega 56 that allows it to draw 600W and try to blow up some other adapters, that could be fun

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 2 года назад +10

      But the SATA plug is only rated to 4.5A, so 9A or 108W for two of them.
      4-pin Molex on the other hand is rated for 11A per line, so 22A or 264W for a molex to PCIe.
      So the SATA-to-PCIe adapter would violate the specs for the SATA ports on a high-power GPU but the Molex-to-PCIe would be fine.
      What always surprises me is that the PCIe 6-pin is specced to deliver 75W over 2 lines, but the 8-pin can give 150W over 3 lines. that means 4.17A on the 8-pin but only 3.13A on the 6-pin. If we load the 6-pin also with 4.17A that means it should be able to give 100W
      And then there are the 4 and 8-pin for the CPU which do 155W over 2 lines and 235W over 4 lines for 6.0-6.46A per line.

    • @naxzed_it
      @naxzed_it 2 года назад +2

      Ah yes, more Dapz Academy

    • @kaksidaksi3455
      @kaksidaksi3455 2 года назад +2

      Eyo Dapz you like computers?

    • @0yah0yah06
      @0yah0yah06 2 года назад +1

      F*kc dapz your here aswell m8?

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  2 года назад +21

      That is a really good idea! I could also use those single sata to 8 pin adapters to just really take it to the limit. 😅

  • @WizardTim
    @WizardTim 2 года назад +72

    Most of the problems I’ve seen with SATA power connectors are to do with very poor manufacturing quality that results in the connector shorting out internally even at modest loads.

  • @ChengTeoh
    @ChengTeoh 2 года назад +180

    Why does the FurMark benchmark make me feel like I'm looking into the Eye of Sauron?

  • @ZaPpaul
    @ZaPpaul 2 года назад +10

    Failing connectors are more likely to burn when there is some arcing happening. A good clean mechanical connection can handle quite some amps before failing. There are youtube videos on this subject.

  • @purplegill10
    @purplegill10 2 года назад +9

    A couple points:
    If you're using an infrared temperature monitor like that it's important to make sure it's calibrated correctly by pointing it at things you know the temperature of. While it mostly works better for contact thermometers, it's still useful to use ice water as a good baseline temperature reading just to make sure it's roughly in the area you want.
    Another thing that's important to remember is how power supplies actually provide power. If you ever open up one (DO NOT OPEN UP A POWER SUPPLY UNLESS YOU HAVE THE PROPER TRAINING AND KNOWLEDGE TO DO SO) then you'll usually see a bunch of individual wires going to each connector. Each of these wires has their own individual rating and in turn that can tell you how much you can safely push through any kind of connector. While other comments already talked about how the 75w coming from the pcie slot will affect it, it's also important to remember that the actual wires themselves are going to be the biggest factor in seeing if those cables burn up or not from the power supply. The reason you often see failures at the connectors rather than inside the wires themselves are almost always because of arcing between the actual connectors inside. Arcing creates a _lot_ of heat and often results in catastrophic failures like you saw in those pictures. It takes a lot of current to actually melt/destroy/burn a wire compared to the much more common scenario of arcing inside the connector itself. This is why you see so many success stories of people using those sata to 6/8 pin connectors without failure despite it being out of spec.
    Just wanted to point that out, still loved the video Dawid!

    • @DeepakKumar-lv4te
      @DeepakKumar-lv4te 10 месяцев назад

      nice comment. do you think this power draw through the mb rather than a psu cable would create heat that would shorten the life of the mb and its components? That's what concerns me.
      I have an rx6600 which is 132W tdp and wondered if these sata adapters could provide the power from the mb in an optiplex with the standard dell 260W psu.

  • @theophilusthistler5885
    @theophilusthistler5885 2 года назад +124

    If you have any of those dual SATA to 8pin PCIe adapters lying around they can come in handy for 12V-4A solar panel / charge regulater / Lead-Acid deep cycle marine battery trickle charge.

  • @wojciechgromek250
    @wojciechgromek250 2 года назад +16

    But 75 watts is pulled from the motherboard so the 150 watts is actually only 85w from the adapter

    • @brightshadowdenmark
      @brightshadowdenmark 2 года назад +3

      75

    • @wojciechgromek250
      @wojciechgromek250 2 года назад +2

      @@brightshadowdenmark sorry i can't do maths

    • @macieklukasiewicz8176
      @macieklukasiewicz8176 2 года назад +3

      most gpus dont actually draw 75w from the mobo, they usually try to draw as much as possible from the pcie power connectors. My 3080ti with unlocked power limit draws 398w overall and only 48w from the mobo

    • @brightshadowdenmark
      @brightshadowdenmark 2 года назад

      @@macieklukasiewicz8176
      i'll guess it's a "path of least resistance" thing
      do the 3080ti got 3x 8-pin ?
      that's 450w + 75w pcie
      and if the pcie has fatter cables with better connectors it might pull more from that side..
      or it has some software that makes i preferer pcie
      sorry for my broken English ;-)

    • @macieklukasiewicz8176
      @macieklukasiewicz8176 2 года назад

      @@brightshadowdenmark i have the FE so only 2x 8pin

  • @DavidLee-cr4xv
    @DavidLee-cr4xv 2 года назад +9

    I have used these when adding GPUs to Optiplexes, but 1) have always limited the GPUs to lower-TDP models like the 120W GTX 1060 or the 100w 1650 Super, 2) never overclocked the GPUs off these, and 3) have always tested them running Furmark for a few hours and checking the temps periodically to make sure it's not heading up.

  • @joelthenoob9868
    @joelthenoob9868 2 года назад +95

    I miss dawid comparing prebuilts to mid tier STDs. Those were the good old days.

    • @Scitch87
      @Scitch87 2 года назад +17

      sadly PC gaming has become so expensive that even prebuilts would have to be compared to high class prostitutes nowadays.

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  2 года назад +30

      I've been trying to diversify, but do you want to see more prebuilt videos? 😁

    • @danielharvison7510
      @danielharvison7510 2 года назад +9

      @@DawidDoesTechStuff How about the worst possible examples of specific tech products? Bargain bin SSD's, or off-brand video cards from AliBaba or something? Knock-off motherboards, stuff like that?

    • @shrekshrek4312
      @shrekshrek4312 2 года назад

      Comments like this are what caused William osman to quit, so stop it

    • @joelthenoob9868
      @joelthenoob9868 2 года назад +1

      @@DawidDoesTechStuff Hi dawid. I really like the prebuilts. But these videos are really good as well. You are very funny

  • @vidz0679
    @vidz0679 2 года назад +2

    Dude you are impressive the ideas you have and how fun you are... love the channel much I watched at least 10 videos in a row the first time I found out about your channel. The soundtracks are perfect the quality everything about your channel is amazing I only wish there were more videos !

  • @humphrey7680
    @humphrey7680 2 года назад +24

    Pair it with a budget psu. Let's see how those sata connectors hold up

    • @arch1107
      @arch1107 2 года назад

      don't hold, lol

    • @bitelaserkhalif
      @bitelaserkhalif 2 года назад +2

      *PSU commits seppuku*

    • @Zero_Steel
      @Zero_Steel 2 года назад +1

      lol no, once did this and I learned my lesson

    • @zerozeroone001
      @zerozeroone001 2 года назад +2

      When you want to see the connector/adapter fail, what is the point of using a PSU that fails before the connector?

    • @arch1107
      @arch1107 2 года назад +1

      @@zerozeroone001 see how some people do it and end with a pc in flames
      show people how risky is to use a cheap psu

  • @brarautorepairs
    @brarautorepairs 2 года назад +3

    If you increase the wire lenght, the amp draw will increase. Prehaps the connector is decent quality and the short run of wires helps prevent an issue.

  • @randybobandy9828
    @randybobandy9828 2 года назад +2

    It gets to a point where "thermal Runaway" occures. If the connector gets hot enough I will actually require more amps to compensate for the resistance of the connector . So the card will pull more power to compensate and that will in turn increase the heat/ internal resistance which in turn will draw more power to compensate until you have a melted connector.

  • @fetus2280
    @fetus2280 2 года назад +8

    Pro Tip : When you purchase one of those Hand Held Thermometers, read the box and check for the + / - ... That way you can get better idea of the Actual Temp. Mine is a 5 deg = / - so that means its most likely off by at Most 5 deg . Keep that in mind when you use those . Cheers .

  • @turbo1gts
    @turbo1gts 2 года назад +2

    Love the zeal for controlled chaos :) I used a Molex to SATA adapter/splitter to power my old server's WD Green 1TB hdd. One day, the server was not responding on the network. I opened it up and saw the splitter was burnt, and the circuit board on the hdd was damaged. I didn't have backups for much of the stuff on the drive. I was able to resurrect the drive with a board ordered off ebay for about $25.

  • @judewhittaker1200
    @judewhittaker1200 2 года назад +30

    "in a controlled environment" *pulls out fire extinguisher in a can*

  • @czbrat
    @czbrat 2 года назад +10

    The connectors were getting active airflow on them from the RX 580 GPU fans.

    • @vollkerball1
      @vollkerball1 2 года назад

      and open air

    • @arch1107
      @arch1107 2 года назад

      those fans suck air in, not push air out, the active airflow there is very minimum for this situation, perhaps if you put them near the metallic fins on the gpu heatsink will get more airflow, and when they melt, they will short and fuck up the gpu in the process
      lol

  • @j4ck3t
    @j4ck3t 2 года назад +30

    70 dollars?! are you sure you can afford that? You still have to buy more pre-builds!

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  2 года назад +5

      It was a tough call. 😂

    • @armchairgeneralissimo
      @armchairgeneralissimo 2 года назад +1

      Rip out the GT710s and sell them on Ebay to recover the costs some sucker will buy them.

    • @ChrisTian-sd5yq
      @ChrisTian-sd5yq 2 года назад +2

      @@armchairgeneralissimo just tell them that it's a RTX

  • @Dark.Shingo
    @Dark.Shingo 2 года назад

    0:37 And that's how you know you're in a Dawid video.
    _Grabs popcorn and enjoys the ride._

  • @stevenpalmer7241
    @stevenpalmer7241 2 года назад +35

    This video is going to be the first in a series of videos in which Dawid desperately tries to induce electrical fires so he can feel justified in buying a thermal camera
    And I am completely on-board

    • @AlexanderVRadev
      @AlexanderVRadev 2 года назад +3

      Ow that's easy. He should just grab a Gigabyte power supply from some garbage can. ;)

    • @90lancaster
      @90lancaster Год назад +1

      He can always test it on the wife or the pet.

  • @NeutralSmith
    @NeutralSmith 2 года назад +40

    50°C over ambient in a well ventilated environment... Now imagine a dusty case of 40°C with limited airflow, and some vibrations on the connectors.

    • @arch1107
      @arch1107 2 года назад +1

      vibration, yes, sparks and flames soon

    • @YetAnotherGeorgeth
      @YetAnotherGeorgeth 2 года назад

      That's when you should expect indoor fireworks!

    • @copperx
      @copperx 2 года назад

      I'm missing the control group here - how warm is the regular PCIe power connector getting under such load?

    • @ithefy5830
      @ithefy5830 9 месяцев назад

      @@copperxit’s not the pcie connectors heat being talked about it’s the sata connector

  • @aaronncollier96
    @aaronncollier96 2 года назад +2

    Just an FYI: the laser on handheld infrared thermometers like that is only for aiming. The infrared detection is done by a completely separate sensor.

    • @mrpike8955
      @mrpike8955 2 года назад +1

      Came here to write exactly the same. 👍🏻

  • @d.mat.zero6525
    @d.mat.zero6525 2 года назад +2

    in this episode Dawid attempts to set fire to mount E-Waste

  • @icedkiller686
    @icedkiller686 2 года назад +1

    That Canadian Tire tool ahahaha I can recall! Nice video as always :)

  • @Ava-w-
    @Ava-w- 2 года назад +2

    I know that this might be hard to find but you can probably find a motherboard that has a 25w pcie slot rather than a 75w that will make the connectors draw more current until they burn.

  • @JohnnyOrgan
    @JohnnyOrgan Год назад +6

    Gotta say - The RX 580 is a very efficient card. I've rarely seen it push over 140w when gaming with the official AMD game boost (to 1410Mhz) added.

    • @JohnnyOrgan
      @JohnnyOrgan 6 месяцев назад

      @wd5vdFor the class of card it was in it's era, a mid class card, yes.
      It pulls like 10w when doing regular internet browsing with RUclips on in a tab etc.
      Even lower end GPUs of this era like the RTX 3060 draw 170w
      The 4070 non-Ti pulls 200w

  • @alloy0455
    @alloy0455 2 года назад +1

    I have been using one of these for years, and I have never had a problem, only difference is mine has a few more cables from the sata conecter to the 8 pin

  • @crispianchealuks2024
    @crispianchealuks2024 2 года назад

    the pccooler corona 5in1 uses the same connector to power 5 fans with a separate connector for their RGB, and mine ran no problem for almost 2 years but that heating problem does have a commutative effect and it eventually failed (burned) last September, luckily for me the burnt wire remain in its socket and the fire died immediately after the wire was severed. Also for those interested the room temp was around 27C.

  • @Heavenblessed
    @Heavenblessed 2 года назад +1

    The connector probable didnt fail because you had the GPU fans pulling the hot air from the connector. Its ok to use for video cards with up to 150W TDP. I used a couple in prebuilts with 1050ti's that had only one 6 pin pcie connector, and they had 200W psu's. Theyre still going strong 2 years later.

    • @user-lj9zq4dr5t
      @user-lj9zq4dr5t 7 месяцев назад

      lol I used a 6 to 8 pin on my rtx 2060 super 8 gb,

    • @GimOA
      @GimOA Месяц назад

      ​@@user-lj9zq4dr5tdoes it still going?

  • @odiebo
    @odiebo 2 года назад +3

    curious to what the temp would be if you had moved the connector to the other side of the card, out of the gpu fan airflow. Also I think what is reported as 'fire' is likely flameless connector burning. I've seen many car seat heater connectors burnt with no damage to anything beyond the pins and the plastic surrounding the pin melting. It isn't good but it isn't flaming.

  • @Diplomat128
    @Diplomat128 2 года назад +6

    Just a bit of practicality here for anyone who is forced to use similar connectors.
    1. 2xMOLEX to 6-pin is totally fine as long as connectors are not damaged.
    2. 2xMOLEX to 8-pin is a sketchy setup, but it works. You still may want to check it for traces of melting plastic and oxidization on pins once in a while.
    3. SATA power connectors to either 6 or 8-pin for any kind of prolonged usage - is a nogo, "not even once". While MOLEX are not user-friendly and are generally unpleasant to operate, they are robust and reliable (or serviceable/repairable by a decently sapient user, to be exact). SATA power connectors are more user-friendly but are a total mess when it comes to actually, you know, delivering power. You may use SATA to 6/8-pin for short periods in a controlled/observed environment, but don't let them stay in your machine for years without observation.
    It is essential to understand that fire happens not momentarily when you connect unrated stuff and put it to use. It occurs when the electrical resistance (and therefore heat output) of contacts in the connector rises due to bad connection and/or oxidization of pins. Which progresses slowly during long-term exploitation and often remains unnoticed by users.

    • @Tc4ify
      @Tc4ify 2 года назад +1

      Yup, it's the same in my experience - the only really safe one is dual molex to 6-pin (if the PSU is good enough of course)

    • @GimOA
      @GimOA Месяц назад

      thank you, this is the only comment I ever need.

  • @SoppyWater
    @SoppyWater 2 года назад +1

    I love your random ass videos, thanks for being different

  • @DragonBane299
    @DragonBane299 2 года назад +1

    Lol he had his wallpaper as a combusting fire in anticipation of the adapter's possible end

  • @A90Ross
    @A90Ross 2 года назад

    i used a few of these addapters on a mining rig a few years back, powering a couple of 980ti's. i think I had 4 of them and one almost set on fire. it wasn't the sata plug/connector that was at fault but the wire its self. good job I was around, I smelt it and immediately knew what it was.

  • @micobugija6284
    @micobugija6284 2 года назад +7

    Usually the ones that melt are the ones with aluminium wires. You probably got lucky with a copper one.

    • @Zebra_Paw
      @Zebra_Paw 2 года назад +1

      Or just thick enough wires!

    • @victorhugofranciscon7899
      @victorhugofranciscon7899 2 года назад

      I never knew that aluminium wires even existed lol

    • @Zebra_Paw
      @Zebra_Paw 2 года назад +1

      @@victorhugofranciscon7899 they are widely used

    • @victorhugofranciscon7899
      @victorhugofranciscon7899 2 года назад

      @@Zebra_Paw Now thinking about it makes sense, because aluminium is considerably cheaper than cooper

  • @SlurpTheFoxHole
    @SlurpTheFoxHole 2 года назад

    I hit the like button before the opening title. Your expression to a possible fire immediately won me over.

  • @RobtRoma
    @RobtRoma 2 года назад +1

    I added a Molex to SATA adapter to a Dell Inspiron Slim in my office so we could have an extra SSD drive in the PC. The adaptor went to the rarely used DVD drive. That connector basically burst into flames at the DVD drive after the PC was left on in a cabinet with the doors closed by a co-worker. The PC was about 10 years old but had an upgraded Seasonic power supply. Luckily the fire was contained in the case. The only damage was the PC (fried the Power Supply) and a really bad smell in the office for a few days.

  • @lehelzelenka207
    @lehelzelenka207 2 года назад +3

    I'm using a dual SATA to 8pin for a GTX 1080ti. It was installed as a temporary solution but a year has passed since then. Still works. Although I undervolted the gpu to lower the temps.

  • @stuartlunsford7556
    @stuartlunsford7556 2 года назад +6

    Now, get a 1 to 2 8-pin adapter on a giant GPU.

    • @greenumbrellacorp5744
      @greenumbrellacorp5744 2 года назад +1

      1 to 2 pin adapters should never be used... at all heh, 2 pice x8 from psu cable on the other hand is fine, i've seen multiple modular psus do that, pci-e cable x8 with 1 psu input and 2 gpu outputs, these r meant for 3 8 pin gpus, ur using 2 8 pins to power a 3 8 pin card, and these cables r overbuilt for that, so is the psu 8 pin conecction, however if u do that on a random psu u wont know if its overbuilt for that, or not

    • @hireahitCA
      @hireahitCA 2 года назад +1

      No. Get TWO 1 to 2 8-pin adapters for a GPU that uses three connectors, with two splitters in a row to get 3 connectors.

    • @stuartlunsford7556
      @stuartlunsford7556 2 года назад

      @@hireahitCA Do all that and power it with a potato!!!!

    • @hireahitCA
      @hireahitCA 2 года назад

      @@stuartlunsford7556 potato? Could we just try a Gigabyte PSU without a fire extinguisher nearby?

  • @Jaklas1979
    @Jaklas1979 2 года назад +1

    Brings new meaning to Afterburner

  • @jamesroggy1546
    @jamesroggy1546 2 года назад

    Never not laughing at or with your videos good job mate

  • @judewhittaker1200
    @judewhittaker1200 2 года назад +2

    Good to know fire extinguishers in a can exist

  • @captante9889
    @captante9889 2 года назад

    "Immediately got me excited" .... ROTFL materiel like this is why I never miss a video! :P

  • @hippopotamus86
    @hippopotamus86 2 года назад +1

    Try unplugging one of the sata cables so it's just being powered by a single sata cable. Also just a thought, you may be able to get a higher power draw when crypto mining something like raven coin (not Ethereum as it doesn't use the core much)

    • @arch1107
      @arch1107 2 года назад

      if those sata cables came from different rails on the psu, that test would mean something, but is a dell oem psu, the cables are feed by the same cable

    • @thematrixian8710
      @thematrixian8710 2 года назад

      It's actually the gauge of the wire who could give out and cause the meltiness :)

  • @epicgamer4721
    @epicgamer4721 7 месяцев назад +1

    will it be fine in my dell optiplex 9020 with 290 watt psu to use this adapter with a 1660

  • @jojobinks0230
    @jojobinks0230 2 года назад +2

    Ive been using a 2x molex to 6pin adaptor for a r9 280x (that requires a 4 and 6pin connector) paired with a fx6300...it hasnt melted yet but i am curious how safe it actually is.

  • @ndumi
    @ndumi 2 года назад +1

    At some point Dawid is gonna blow up his house😂

    • @arch1107
      @arch1107 2 года назад +2

      he moved to a studio, so his house will not blow up or end in flames

  • @johnpaulbacon8320
    @johnpaulbacon8320 2 года назад

    Great video. As with any thing - there are gonna be the good ones and then the bad ones ; this one was one of the good ones.

  • @awsomewe360
    @awsomewe360 2 года назад +1

    I had an old HP with an Athlon 64 X2. It being my first PC with a video card needing PCIE power, I didn't know the power supply I bought for it had it already on there. I plugged in the GPU with one of those adapters (The one that came with it. It was a GTX 560Ti) I used that PC for 2-3 Years after, and my brother, who bought it after me used it for like 5 more after that. It was rock solid. The board ended up failing, but the GPU and the Cooler Master power supply survived.
    Edit: I even ended up overclocking that card a bit. I can't remember how much.

  • @sherizaahd
    @sherizaahd 2 года назад +2

    I've used this kind of connector with older video cards for years. They've always worked fine for me! I'll stop using them to power my 6900xt though.

  • @aberdeenbelfry316
    @aberdeenbelfry316 2 года назад

    Good old Canadian Tire. Thanks for the videos from a fellow Canadian.

  • @eficaciousmig47
    @eficaciousmig47 2 года назад +3

    At the start of 2021, I upgraded my prebuilt's gpu from an apu, to a rx 570, and, because it didnt have an 8 pin connector to a gpu, i used that thing.
    Lowering the volts of the gpu to the minimum that the amd tool let me, I could use the gpu on idle and with little load, but not with much more than that so I ended up upgrading to a better psu.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 2 года назад +1

      With the better PSU I guess it ran pretty sweet afterwards.
      Undervolting the card (and RX 580) isn't a bad idea anyway as they're quite hungry but have solid headroom for optimization.
      I see a lot of people getting it down to somewhere around 80-90W with 960-1050mV instead of the 120-125 W with 1175mV that are default.

    • @xenooseater6124
      @xenooseater6124 2 года назад

      @@HappyBeezerStudios mine runs at 90 100w with the default voltage

  • @likemetoo2
    @likemetoo2 2 года назад

    I bought a cheap 2x6 pin to 1x8pin to run my Rx580 and they did set fire about an hour in to playing. It was the actual cables that burned through and then started shorting out. Good job I had the side off or I wouldn't have seen it as fast. I then tried an adapter that cost alot more and has been fine ever since.

    • @wanderingfurryy1092
      @wanderingfurryy1092 6 месяцев назад

      What is the name of the new adapter, so I can buy one , I have an RX 580 too, ty

  • @errip3903
    @errip3903 2 года назад

    0:37 Classic dawid

  • @RandomStuff-dt4ne
    @RandomStuff-dt4ne 2 года назад +4

    Hey Dawid! I just want to thank you for talking about this. A year ago, I put together a 600 dollar system, and I used one of these adapters. I think this might have broken my GPU, causing my system to fail. If you're building a PC, please never use this adapter! It could cost you hundreds of dollars!

  • @NextEevolution
    @NextEevolution 2 года назад

    Makes sense Dawid uploaded this during Halloween. It was like waiting for a jump scare that would possibly kill some unforutunate component.

    • @justair44
      @justair44 2 года назад

      Do you remember those old Halloween candies no one liked (carmel.. sorta.. in orange wax wrappers..) I could just see Dawid having a bowl of them and going these things are soooo good.. (for a video like this..) chances are he wouldn't get the reference but I know alot of older people would since those were always the candies no one wanted but always ate anyway when that's all they had left. heh.

  • @jason4663
    @jason4663 2 года назад +2

    I've did it multiple times with older systems and newer graphics cards. Never been a problem.

  • @jonathanellis6097
    @jonathanellis6097 2 года назад +1

    I wouldn't use those kind of adaptors long term. Love your commitment to quality scientific testing! I do wonder if you having the connector right in front of the graphics car fan was helping it out though, it would have had quite a bit of airflow going past it.

    • @aleksazunjic9672
      @aleksazunjic9672 2 года назад

      People usually don't use them long term. Instead, they serve to hotrod some older GPU to a office prebuilt with crappy PSU (4 pin connector) .

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 2 года назад

      @@aleksazunjic9672 To quote: "Nothing is more permanent than a temporary solution." Once the budget builder puts it in, it stays there, until the next upgrade.

    • @aleksazunjic9672
      @aleksazunjic9672 2 года назад

      @@HappyBeezerStudios Not for very long, this thing is usually used by people with some knowledge but lack of funds. Therefore, in next few months they would usually earn for at least second hand but more powerful PSU.

    • @user-lj9zq4dr5t
      @user-lj9zq4dr5t 7 месяцев назад

      lol i used this on my rtx 2060 super 8 gb @@aleksazunjic9672

  • @ToxicwasteProductions
    @ToxicwasteProductions 2 года назад

    I have done such yank install a few times. But.. I did it different I went from dual pci-e to two mulex 4pin connectors soldered in parallel. Then I connected those onto two different mulex lines coming from a tx650w corsair. Running 770gtx SLI so I needed two more pci-e power connectors. It's yank yes. Safe can be argued. Each gpu uses 170w according to afterburner.

    • @gefoz5332
      @gefoz5332 2 года назад

      I used to have the same molex to pcie 6 pin and 6pin to 6+2 pin on gtx 670, it sometimes just randomly shutdown, luckily it didn't break the gpu. Also i try to plug a gtx 780 but it didnt work after that (cant install driver)

  • @sburton015
    @sburton015 2 года назад

    I actually used an adapter like this to install an old 7800 GT graphics card in a Sony Vaio desktop PC with an Intel Pentium D cpu. Both of which are from 2005. However they seem to work okay.

  • @onometre
    @onometre 2 года назад +1

    one of these things did in fact kill my motherboard once. that was because one of the sata ends came unplugged, overloading the other one though

  • @420architecMindNDesign
    @420architecMindNDesign 2 года назад

    I like how the connector and the core were at the same temp lol

  • @derekmccord3798
    @derekmccord3798 2 года назад

    Dawid takes out an insurance policy in this episode!

  • @mhn3773
    @mhn3773 Год назад

    That is the most Dawid fire extinguisher I could imagine

  • @indrasapkota9010
    @indrasapkota9010 11 месяцев назад

    hello is it good for using sata to 6pin for gtx 1650

  • @vx3in780
    @vx3in780 7 месяцев назад

    is msi radeon gaming x 4 gb videocard going to be fine when i connect with a dual sata cable 8 pins

  • @iphonepunker
    @iphonepunker 2 года назад

    I can confirm this cable set my Mac Pro 2010 on fire never use it when I was tuning an Nvidia gtx980 and AMD FirePro 7200 running in the machine.
    The FirePro was connected to it and the Mac Pro was boot looping and I could smell smoke, some how after removing the cable and the Mac Pro started and is still working to this day. Even the SATA port is still working just a little melted.

  • @jacobwise6073
    @jacobwise6073 2 года назад

    I'm sure someone else has posted this already Dawid, but if you really want to set it on fire, just unplug 1 of the sata connectors so the full power req's of the GPU are forced through 1 sata connector instead of being shared by 2. That of course is assuming each sata connector is connected to all 8 pins at the molex end, which is how it looks in the video from all those loops.

  • @stuartlunsford7556
    @stuartlunsford7556 2 года назад

    Open settings in furmark and enable post effects to increase power draw.

  • @hulahulahup
    @hulahulahup 2 года назад

    What's the fan curve you are using for The RX580? I have the exact graphics card that you have but mine is running between 75 to 80 when I do the same strees test?

  • @tux9656
    @tux9656 2 года назад

    Hey Dawid! What are your thoughts on using a CPU power connector splitter from a consumer grade ATX PSU to power two CPUs on a dual socket system with each CPU having a TDP of 115 watts? Is this a ticking time bomb?

  • @thirtyfivefps
    @thirtyfivefps 5 месяцев назад

    best intro ever 😂😂

  • @totenliste
    @totenliste 2 года назад

    Dawid Does "Hold my beer" experiment: Is it all just smoke or will it feel the burn?

  • @andyandarius
    @andyandarius 2 года назад +1

    I've actually never had trouble with the SATA to GPU connectors, both 6 and 6+2 but I have fried several Molex ones and try to avoid them if I can.

  • @surfx4804
    @surfx4804 2 года назад

    Two things. First the connecters were in front of the GPU fan.
    Second you also need to consider how much power is being drawn from the PSU down the sata cable, which tend to be on the same cable. Ah you just did that "cable warm to PSU" at the end :)
    And thirdly this also holds for 3080 and above cards, where manufacturers tell you to use separate 8pin cables from the PSU, or risk melting the PSU end of the connector (or worse)

  • @thegamerscabin69
    @thegamerscabin69 Год назад

    what cable is it

  • @immernochanders776
    @immernochanders776 2 года назад +1

    i was more concerned about the optiplex motherboard, because it has board level voltage regulation. means the powersupply only gives 12v and it gets converted to all other voltages on the motherboard itself. you could clearly have overloaded the regulators. i dont think they considderd that someone puts a gaming gpu in it.

  • @hugojmaia
    @hugojmaia 2 года назад

    While the adapter can be dangerous thing to use, the problem is that those very low cost adapters have such variety in quality that you're rolling the dice each time you get a new one.
    Depends on the use case, you definitely don't want to be using this one, since it can go over the spec for sata and that'll definitely result in a fire in that scenario if your adapter has thinner wires cause the manufacturer decided to cheap out on them to increase margins.
    I'm using an adapter turning molex into fan headers. Same price as bottom of the barrel fan hubs. I have no worries about since the wires on it can handle the fans no problem. And I'd actually be worried over a fan hub of dubious quality in its place.

  • @Gaming_Badger
    @Gaming_Badger 2 года назад

    When Dawid said safely in a control environment makes me really buy a new pc

  • @Deadpool-hv9in
    @Deadpool-hv9in 2 года назад

    Awesome now I'm gonna use these 😅 had me dying.

  • @Gohan1138
    @Gohan1138 2 года назад

    thanks for giving shout outs on the Zen+ architecture

  • @ZaimAfham
    @ZaimAfham 2 года назад

    Been using that adapter for many month, still live.

  • @marksterling8286
    @marksterling8286 2 года назад +2

    Back in the day the saying used to be “Molex to SATA loose all your data”

  • @wizdude
    @wizdude 2 года назад +1

    I was waiting for a classic Dawid line such as “it feels like it’s getting hotter than a first time couple on prom night” or “while it’s not quite as hot as Pamela Anderson running in slow motion on Baywatch I think it’s still running quite warm” 😂

    • @oriolgonzalez9328
      @oriolgonzalez9328 2 года назад

      Not every video can have a classic "Dawid-ism" in it

  • @JobeStroud
    @JobeStroud 2 года назад

    I bet those connectors that you found that were melted were put in backwards on the HDDs. It is rather easy to break off the l bracket on old SATA drives with old cases. All of mine are broken off due to no room behind the motherboard tray.

  • @neogeo999
    @neogeo999 2 года назад

    The connectors were directly in front of a spinning fan. I suppose if they had been in a more confined space with no draft, the result could have been very different.

  • @Almostbakerzero
    @Almostbakerzero 2 года назад

    I've done this twice without any issues. It is the only way to gamify a HP office PC because it has proprietary Mainboard and PSU. However, I was aware of the limitations and used low powered cards, GTX 960 and 1060.
    But nowadays for a similar build, I would suggest resorting to a card that draws from the PCIE Slot only. It's obviously far safer and even cards like GTX 1650 can handle most games on 1080p.

  • @bubleman2196
    @bubleman2196 2 года назад +1

    The graphics card is blowing hot air to the connector, so that is kind of helping it and kinda not, tho in many pc cases there will be airflow arond this connector.

  • @sublime2craig
    @sublime2craig 2 года назад

    Nothing like a man burning his house down so you don't have to! You are a hero in my book Dawid! Great vid and have always wondered about those sus adapters and how well they work...

  • @IMDYT420
    @IMDYT420 2 года назад

    Couldn’t you disconnect one of the sata connectors and run all the watts thru one sata connectoe

  • @MichaelBeeny
    @MichaelBeeny 2 года назад +1

    It's not often that the rating makes the cable fail it's usually time! Connections get dirty and corroded. That makes a high resistance which then gets hot and that's what can overheat. Another fail point is poor crimping of the wire to the pin. The wire is partly covered by the insulation, not a tight crimp, some of the conductors cut off as the insulation is removed. The use of aluminium and not copper because it's cheaper...the list goes on.

  • @BReal-10EC
    @BReal-10EC 2 года назад

    Yep. I used these power adapters to shove a used $15 9800 GT into a refurbished Dell Inspiron 570 minitower. It had the AMD Phenom II X4 820 quad core CPU, so it actually gamed really well for the time. Was actually able to play Metro 2033. Fortunately Dell power Supplies back then were also quite decent, as I think this cable adapter mod could hurt a low power/crap build power supply.

  • @CLEARRTC
    @CLEARRTC 2 года назад +1

    Great content as always. Much as expected, the 960 just can't pull that much juice. I did have one of those connectors fail but it was Molex to SATA running a WD hard drive, it ran for years and one day poof smoke and the PC wouldn't boot. Found the connector melted. It hangs above my desk at work. Replaced the connector and everything did worked fine just fyi whatever power protection was in the system shut it down without catastrophic failure. I think if you get something like a StarTech connector that uses slightly thicker gauge wire vs the freebee that came with some component the danger is reduced.

  • @rizqmikh9956
    @rizqmikh9956 2 года назад

    What if u have 2 or 3 of those and use it on a vrry high end gpu?

  • @StillFeelDeadEnt
    @StillFeelDeadEnt 2 года назад +1

    Dawid does sketchy stuff

  • @KelBShobra
    @KelBShobra 2 года назад +1

    "the Rx 580 witch is the highest tsp card I have" this taught me why my graphics card gets so hot lol. Should do a full video on the Rx 580

  • @ethand4784
    @ethand4784 2 года назад

    I know a guy with a gtx 3070 and a 700w psu, but he only has 2 8 pin connectors, would adding one of these be fine?

  • @00SNIVY00
    @00SNIVY00 2 года назад

    The PCIe connector provides 75W of power on its own, yeah? Is that accounted for in the power draw? Or is that separate?