It's not just printer/paper combination but also printer driver settings or printer settings. The Red River papers include a sheet for what settings to use, but you don't have to use those settings, or maybe your printer doesn't have the recommended setting. In any case, printer settings will change the profile required.
It is quite crutial to mention that you have to (at least) pay attention to the printer's driver settings - meaning the "Advanced settings" / "More settings" etc button in the print dialog. Most printers have further color settings there and often include some sort of "smart color enhance" feature that might possibly mess up the calibration result. Unless intended othewise, you should turn any color manipulation off in there and save those driver settings and use them when printing with the profile you will create.
If you make your profile with for example the following setting: Epson Premium Glossy, Quality: Quality (setting 4) and you want to print with a higher resolution, let's say with setting: Epson Premium Glossy, Quality: Super Photo (setting 5), the result will be different. A particular profile is bound to the type of paper of a given trademark, a given ink set, a given print setting (for example: Epson Premium Glossy or Epson semi-Gloss) and a given resolution (1440, 2880 dpi) and sometimes there slight differences even if you would use 2 of the same printers at your desk.
Hello Scott, thank you for the video. I understand that the primary purpose of this device and your video is to establish a printer profile, that is, to calibrate it to match the colors on the screen as closely as possible to how they will appear in print. Is that correct? I am seeking a device or method, or any tips on how to measure the color rendition range and quality of printer inks and toners. For instance, consider a color laser printer from SomeBrand with its original toner. Then, I replace the four toners (CMYK) with those from CompatibleBrandA, make the same print, and measure it. I would do the same with inkjet inks on inkjet printers. I am also interested in testing different brands and types of paper to see how they affect the color range, for example. Additionally, it would be insightful to compare different driver settings, such as how the printer-driver-setting of Print Quality varies between standard and best, etc. Therefore, my objective is not to calibrate these and create a color profile for the printers/toners/inks/paper combinations to achieve the best possible results, but rather, to identify the differences in color range, gamut, color fading on light exposure, etc., between different brands of inks, toners, papers, and settings. Could you suggest a test method or device for these measurements?
You missed a key piece of information. If user is unexperienced - the result of such calibration will be terrible. By default, freshly installed printer driver assigns to printer some ICM (usually created by producer). When chart is printed, all its colors will be slightly changed by this profile. As a result, we will create ICC involving changed colors. I'm almost sure that users who are not aware of this, will make this mistake. Before any chart is printed: go to printer's properties and turn off ICM management. It is worth to mention that for some printers (usually of office class) don't have such option. In these cases - calibration will result unpredictable results because profiling will be doubled: one on printer side, second one on driver or application (eg Photoshop) side.
Hi Scott, I decided to watch this video again, as when I calibrated my Epson XP-690 printer, creating my own profile for the Epson paper, the profile was saved as an icm file, not an icc file. I’m using the 1.5.1 software version for the i1 Studio, if I can select icm or icc I must be missing something. Regards Gary
Hi Gary ... are you using a Windows system? If so, it's just a file naming thing. The formats are identical. Found this: www.xritephoto.com/ph_product_overview.aspx?ID=652&Action=Support&SupportID=2994
I have not looked at calibrators since getting the i1 Studio. Technology continues to advance (the best we can do is "tie" at a given point in time). I can say I continue to use the i1 Studio and am happy with the results.
Is there a way I can send the 1st chart to my photo lab (instead of my printer) and have them print it? When it comes back, scan that one and send it to the lab. When that 2nd one comes back scan it, and I should be able to make an ICC profile for that paper and that lab. Right?
Thanks for this video. Very helpful. One question... Is there a right/easy way to rotate the dial on the calibrator? I find it very difficult and have to grab the edges with my fingernails to turn it. Am I doing something wrong?
You’re not doing anything wrong. Some days I’ve “just got it” and the dial turns no problem. Other days I need to convince it a little. I try to use my thumbs on the raised ridge of the dial to rotate it.
The rotary dial is just a bad design. Next to impossible to rotate the dial without clicking the button. Fixing the rotating dial needs to be #1on next model design. IMO
I thought that I might save some ink and paper, and so I decided to use 5x7 paper. They want you to print, 5 5x7s! So you really don't save any ink or paper by going to a smaller size!
5:10 Hmm... the device calibration doesn't work like that, though? Afaik, the spectrophotometer's sensor rotates along with the dial and in the calibration position the device is not aware of anything happening outside it as the sensor is pointing inside towards a built-in calibration sample. If you turn the dial to the calibration position, you can see that the hole on the bottom, which is used for measuring, is blocked; thus putting the device on paper does nothing. For another topic: Any idea why there's a separate B/W calibration and color calibration when both of them print out similar charts for testing? In what cases would a separate B/W profile be relevant/useful?
Hi Joonas... very good catch. Yes, I misspoke in the video. For the B&W profiles... I haven't worked with these... other than whisking through the software briefly. The second wave of measurement test charts are more biased to muted midtones. Again, I haven't tried this yet. My expectation is the neutrals would be more accurate. Write has a notion of measuring once and creating several different profiles (XRite calls them 'styles') from one set of measurement data (standard, high contrast, sepia, ...). One of the use cases is leveraging an ICC profile to do the B&W conversion for you. Put another way, you select a color image and let the profile to convert to B&W for you (kind of like a preset). Not my personal workflow, but it's there for those that want it.
@@ScottDavenport Alright, cheers. :) (So I suppose I'm not running into a situation where a "normal" color calibration won't do unless one specialises in grayscale photoprints or something...)
The software walks you through the workflow. It's a print/measure/print/measure workflow. You print chart set 1 and measure. Then, print chart set 2 and measure again.
When the colour patches are printed does the xrite software automatically turn off any colour management settings that could be running in the background... photoshop or lightroomfor example
Hi David... the print happens directly from the X-Rite software. I don't see how LR or PS would "get in the way". The X-Rite software will tap into your OS's print flow, so you can also disable any color mgmt settings there.
Hello question my i1 Stoudio in the last step always wirte .icm profil but i need icc can you say me what is worng? i make the same like your video but in last step he write my only safe to icm. profile but my printer p-800 need icc file
ok....2 part question.... 1. Just wanna make sure i got this right....I have a Canon Pixma Pro 100...atm i will be printing on Canon Plus Semi Gloss 13x19 & Epson Hot Press Bright Fine Art Paper 8.5x11....I will want to print 1 chart on the Epson let it cure over night....scan it in....print a second...let it cure...scan it in...then a ICC profile will be made for that particular paper combo....then print a color chart on the 13x19....cure...scan...print...cure...scan...then a ICC chart will be made for that one?...so 4 prints all together...2 on 8.5x11 and 2 on 13x19? 2. How much ink is used when doing these profiles?
Hi Tony, you’ve got it. In your case, the reason you have four chart prints is because you are using 2 different types of paper. The paper size doesn’t matter - it’s the print surface. As for ink, each chart is much less than a typical print. A good portion of each test chart is empty space.
When I create a BW profile and select it for printing in Photoshop 2020, I can no longer select Print Settings and the sheet of paper runs through the Pro-10 without printing. Any idea what the issue is here? Color profiles work great!
Hello. I just watched your tutorial among many others as part of my research. My X-Rite i1 device will be delivered tomorrow and I want to know what to do right away. My question is: Do I need to print the color squares every time I calibrate (which I understand should be done once a week)? Thanks
Hi Max... you don’t need to calibrate every week. I calibrate my monitor every few months, or if I change the lighting setup in my studio. You do not need to print any test sheets for that. The print sheets are only needed when calibrating your printer. I do that when I change the ink or, of course, the first time I get a new paper stock. Have fun!
Does the i1 Studio use the monitor calibration color profile as its base for the printer calibration? I have one of the X Rite monitor calibrator, can’t remember which one, but there is section on the main panel for printer calibration. I just don’t have the module for it. I would rather have one unit that does it all.
I'm not sure if I entirely follow your question... The same hardware is used to calibrate a monitor or printer. Each calibrated device gets its own color profile.
When Printing a profiling test chart in the workflow, do we change any of the printer preferences to make sure we get to a "level set" place. So we set the media type, print quality, under Color settings there are a whole bunch of things to do with color matching (driver matching, ICC Profile Matching, ICM, etc). I assume since you just went from the Paper Description to let your prints cure for a couple of hours, that we just take defaults? My concern was that one persons default printer settings are different than anothers'. And that the calibration could be affected by this. I have the Canon ImagePROGRAF PRO-2000 large format printer, and I am currently at all of its defaults on the printer and my driver installation. I've got both my BenQ SW320's all calibrated down to about 0.6 (the dual setup caused me grief at first, but I figured that one out) and was hoping to get my different printer papers dialed in as well. I will be using a combination of ImagePrint R.E.D., LightRoom, and PhotoShop to do prints. I assume that I will need to go back through and "Load Saved Session" to print out the tests in each application I plan on using that paper profile in? Final question is around print head replacement. Is it best to re-generate ICC's everytime your replace a printer head? Would seem to me, there could be slight variations there; and if we have bought into not using paper manufacturers ICC files (which would probably by fine for most people), then it might be a task worth doing or no? Thanks for the videos, very helpful as I try to figure this whole process out.
I didn't change any of the defaults on my printer. I did follow the guidance from my paper stock provider (I use Red River Paper) for printer settings for things like the surface type (glossy vs. matte) and any special settings for paper thickness. You're right... different printer will have different defaults. And strictly speaking, each printer within a model family could behave ever-so-slightly differently. That's why we calibrate. Yes, if you're using different paper stocks, you'll want to calibrate for each type of paper. Each profile is for a printer/paper combination. And yes, to get the most accurate representation, recalibrating after a head swap is best. Some of the most discerning recalibrate after ink cartridge swaps. Can't say I personally do that :)
Hi Scott. I have Canon Pixma Pro 100, I want to buy the X Rite i1 to calibrate my printer. Do you think it is work for my printer or I will wasting my money. Thanks
Hi Hien ... there is no reason the i1 Studio shouldn't work for your printer. The device doesn't care what printer outputs the calibration pages. Of course, when you name the profile, you'll want to include the printer/paper combination. That's for us humans and our bookkeeping :)
Hello Scott, thank you very much for these vieos, I havn't found anyone as good as you when it comes to explaining this process! Can I ask, did you find after you calibrated your monitor and printer, your prints came out very close to what you see on screen? Or is there further adjustments needed? Thank you
After calibration, and then soft proofing, the prints come out very close to what I see on screen. I recalibrate my screen periodically. For the printer, I'll do it when I've swapped a number of ink cartridges, or am using a new paper. I suppose, strictly speaking, I should recalibrate whenever I change ink... but hey, I'm human :)
@@ScottDavenport Ah I see. Great, thanks for your feedback! I've just bough a i1 Display Studio so looking forward to getting some decent prints finally
Hello, Scott. I have a question for you. I took a photo in sRGB. Then I calibrated my screen and generated my camera profile using ColorChecker, and I also calibrated my printer. Even so, the printout colors are a bit different. Do I have to transform my RGB photo into CMYK mode before sending it to print? Do you think I am omitting anything? Thank you very much.
At a glance, it doesn't seem you're skipping anything. There is almost always a little variance in colors - different devices and papers have limits on what they can produce and display.
Hi Scott. May I ask you what "preferences' should be set on the printer when you choose it , just before starting to print the first prints for the i1studio calibration files? Is it "NO ICM", or it does not matter what you choose ? I am using an epson 3880. regards Luc
Hi Luc... I believe that refers to the file extension on the profile, either ICC or ICM. I’ve not changed it from the default. I suppose it’s there for devices or OSs that require an ICM file.
@@ScottDavenport Hi Scott X-Rite answered my question. When it is ready to print, you must have chosen for an epson In 'Main ' page setup option "Mode" ; "Custom"; "OFF(no color adjustment)". regards Luc
hello Scott, very interesting tuto to see how we proceed with such system. I have just bought a spyder studio kit. Do you consider the profile you did is better than one you have found on RR site ? In my case I am using 13x18cm epson ultra glossy photo paper 300g/m^2 with a SC-P600 printer. I am looking for a more professional paper but it is ok for lot of cases. However I have a huge difference, mainly lightness and a little color shift, between lightroom (calibrated Philips 273ELH 200 euros monitor) and P600. P600 seems to install a glossy profile i use but not sure it is reliable so i'd like to try my own one.
The profiles I created are about 10% or so better than the ones I got from Red River. Noticeable to the discerning eye, much less so to the casual observer. That being said, the Red River profiles are very good. I use the RR profiles for papers I don't print with as often (profiling uses a non-trivial amount of ink, and paper of course :)
Thank you Scott. What a fast support :-) I just visit the epson website and it is less user friendly than RR you show. first P600 and P800 don't exist anymore. second i have not found yet the profiles. Third, my paper is so "standard in mediamarkt,... that there is no S/N ref and not sure i would find something accurate. so i think no choice here than trying to make my own one. i am looking again your LR tutos about soft proofing to understand wht my green background behind my cream flowers becomr white flower on dark background
@@ScottDavenport doesn't work. contrast ratio of paper is different than the monitor. looks like i1 studio is missing the functionality required to do this, that is in the i1 pro: ruclips.net/video/1vqzft1nHnc/видео.html
I got better results by allowing my Epson EcoTank ET-7750 to 'Manage Print Colours' - we underestimate how good operating systems are and the rigour they apply to colour. XRite software is complete rubbish and their online support is a mess.
It's not just printer/paper combination but also printer driver settings or printer settings. The Red River papers include a sheet for what settings to use, but you don't have to use those settings, or maybe your printer doesn't have the recommended setting. In any case, printer settings will change the profile required.
It is quite crutial to mention that you have to (at least) pay attention to the printer's driver settings - meaning the "Advanced settings" / "More settings" etc button in the print dialog. Most printers have further color settings there and often include some sort of "smart color enhance" feature that might possibly mess up the calibration result. Unless intended othewise, you should turn any color manipulation off in there and save those driver settings and use them when printing with the profile you will create.
Excellent video. Very clear explanation. Just what I needed to know.
Glad it was helpful!
If you make your profile with for example the following setting: Epson Premium Glossy, Quality: Quality (setting 4) and you want to print with a higher resolution, let's say with setting: Epson Premium Glossy, Quality: Super Photo (setting 5), the result will be different. A particular profile is bound to the type of paper of a given trademark, a given ink set, a given print setting (for example: Epson Premium Glossy or Epson semi-Gloss) and a given resolution (1440, 2880 dpi) and sometimes there slight differences even if you would use 2 of the same printers at your desk.
Before and after print would be interesting to see.
Thank you Scott! Excellent! It seems that since you did this tutorial, X-rite no longer sells the i1 Studio or the Color Munki! 😥
Hello Scott, thank you for the video. I understand that the primary purpose of this device and your video is to establish a printer profile, that is, to calibrate it to match the colors on the screen as closely as possible to how they will appear in print. Is that correct?
I am seeking a device or method, or any tips on how to measure the color rendition range and quality of printer inks and toners. For instance, consider a color laser printer from SomeBrand with its original toner. Then, I replace the four toners (CMYK) with those from CompatibleBrandA, make the same print, and measure it. I would do the same with inkjet inks on inkjet printers. I am also interested in testing different brands and types of paper to see how they affect the color range, for example. Additionally, it would be insightful to compare different driver settings, such as how the printer-driver-setting of Print Quality varies between standard and best, etc.
Therefore, my objective is not to calibrate these and create a color profile for the printers/toners/inks/paper combinations to achieve the best possible results, but rather, to identify the differences in color range, gamut, color fading on light exposure, etc., between different brands of inks, toners, papers, and settings.
Could you suggest a test method or device for these measurements?
Interesting question... to which I don't have any insights on. Good luck!
Thank you for this informative video.
Glad it was helpful!
Very helpful. Thanks Scott.
Glad to be of service, Roger.
just looking for some useful videos like this, thanks
Glad it was helpful!
You missed a key piece of information. If user is unexperienced - the result of such calibration will be terrible. By default, freshly installed printer driver assigns to printer some ICM (usually created by producer). When chart is printed, all its colors will be slightly changed by this profile. As a result, we will create ICC involving changed colors. I'm almost sure that users who are not aware of this, will make this mistake.
Before any chart is printed: go to printer's properties and turn off ICM management. It is worth to mention that for some printers (usually of office class) don't have such option. In these cases - calibration will result unpredictable results because profiling will be doubled: one on printer side, second one on driver or application (eg Photoshop) side.
Hi Scott, Enjoyed your Monitor and Printer Videos, very informative, Ta Hans
Great, Hans! Glad you enjoyed them.
Hi Scott, I decided to watch this video again, as when I calibrated my Epson XP-690 printer, creating my own profile for the Epson paper, the profile was saved as an icm file, not an icc file. I’m using the 1.5.1 software version for the i1 Studio, if I can select icm or icc I must be missing something.
Regards Gary
Hi Gary ... are you using a Windows system? If so, it's just a file naming thing. The formats are identical. Found this: www.xritephoto.com/ph_product_overview.aspx?ID=652&Action=Support&SupportID=2994
@@ScottDavenport hi Scott, thank you for your reply an help. I a using a windows 10 system. I will her out the link. Thank you.
Kind regards, Gary
Excellent. Scott I think when you calibrate the device it is not influenced with what is under it as it is not reading paper white.
Hi Neil... glad you liked the video. I see... so it truly is just how the color is represented on the various papers. Good to know - thanks!
Do you need to do a profile each time you get a new batch of the same paper type?
For the same paper type, no, I don't.
Is this still the best printer and monitor caliberation device in 2021. I can see the Xrite i1photo pro - looks more expensive and too complex..
I have not looked at calibrators since getting the i1 Studio. Technology continues to advance (the best we can do is "tie" at a given point in time). I can say I continue to use the i1 Studio and am happy with the results.
Is there a way I can send the 1st chart to my photo lab (instead of my printer) and have them print it? When it comes back, scan that one and send it to the lab. When that 2nd one comes back scan it, and I should be able to make an ICC profile for that paper and that lab. Right?
I'd talk to your photo lab. Many labs have ICC profiles you can download and use.
@@ScottDavenport I got it 👍 thanks again. Happy Easter. He has risen.
Thanks for this video. Very helpful. One question... Is there a right/easy way to rotate the dial on the calibrator? I find it very difficult and have to grab the edges with my fingernails to turn it. Am I doing something wrong?
You’re not doing anything wrong. Some days I’ve “just got it” and the dial turns no problem. Other days I need to convince it a little. I try to use my thumbs on the raised ridge of the dial to rotate it.
The rotary dial is just a bad design. Next to impossible to rotate the dial without clicking the button. Fixing the rotating dial needs to be #1on next model design. IMO
I thought that I might save some ink and paper, and so I decided to use 5x7 paper. They want you to print, 5 5x7s! So you really don't save any ink or paper by going to a smaller size!
Huh! Thanks for sharing Jay.
Is it possible to use other light sources beyond D50?
Not to my knowledge.
@@ScottDavenport Keith said there is a way. I'll have a look when I get Calibrite Colorchecker Studio.
You didn't turn off colour mgt in the print settings - or at least dint show this to your audience.
hello Scott, is it working with CMYK printer ?
I have no direct experience to share. The specs say yes for CMYK: www.xrite.com/categories/calibration-profiling/i1studio
Doesn't work with win 10. Software can't see device.
5:10 Hmm... the device calibration doesn't work like that, though? Afaik, the spectrophotometer's sensor rotates along with the dial and in the calibration position the device is not aware of anything happening outside it as the sensor is pointing inside towards a built-in calibration sample. If you turn the dial to the calibration position, you can see that the hole on the bottom, which is used for measuring, is blocked; thus putting the device on paper does nothing.
For another topic: Any idea why there's a separate B/W calibration and color calibration when both of them print out similar charts for testing? In what cases would a separate B/W profile be relevant/useful?
Hi Joonas... very good catch. Yes, I misspoke in the video. For the B&W profiles... I haven't worked with these... other than whisking through the software briefly. The second wave of measurement test charts are more biased to muted midtones. Again, I haven't tried this yet. My expectation is the neutrals would be more accurate.
Write has a notion of measuring once and creating several different profiles (XRite calls them 'styles') from one set of measurement data (standard, high contrast, sepia, ...). One of the use cases is leveraging an ICC profile to do the B&W conversion for you. Put another way, you select a color image and let the profile to convert to B&W for you (kind of like a preset). Not my personal workflow, but it's there for those that want it.
@@ScottDavenport Alright, cheers. :) (So I suppose I'm not running into a situation where a "normal" color calibration won't do unless one specialises in grayscale photoprints or something...)
Are you printing both color charts before you use the caliber i1studio. or use the calibration on the 1st first chart efore printing the second chart?
The software walks you through the workflow. It's a print/measure/print/measure workflow. You print chart set 1 and measure. Then, print chart set 2 and measure again.
When the colour patches are printed does the xrite software automatically turn off any colour management settings that could be running in the background... photoshop or lightroomfor example
Hi David... the print happens directly from the X-Rite software. I don't see how LR or PS would "get in the way". The X-Rite software will tap into your OS's print flow, so you can also disable any color mgmt settings there.
Hello question my i1 Stoudio in the last step always wirte .icm profil but i need icc can you say me what is worng? i make the same like your video but in last step he write my only safe to icm. profile but my printer p-800 need icc file
Could be a Windows vs macOS thing. www.xritephoto.com/ph_product_overview.aspx?ID=652&Action=Support&SupportID=2994
ok....2 part question....
1. Just wanna make sure i got this right....I have a Canon Pixma Pro 100...atm i will be printing on Canon Plus Semi Gloss 13x19 & Epson Hot Press Bright Fine Art Paper 8.5x11....I will want to print 1 chart on the Epson let it cure over night....scan it in....print a second...let it cure...scan it in...then a ICC profile will be made for that particular paper combo....then print a color chart on the 13x19....cure...scan...print...cure...scan...then a ICC chart will be made for that one?...so 4 prints all together...2 on 8.5x11 and 2 on 13x19?
2. How much ink is used when doing these profiles?
Hi Tony, you’ve got it. In your case, the reason you have four chart prints is because you are using 2 different types of paper. The paper size doesn’t matter - it’s the print surface.
As for ink, each chart is much less than a typical print. A good portion of each test chart is empty space.
Awesome Scott thank you so much man! Stoked!
When I create a BW profile and select it for printing in Photoshop 2020, I can no longer select Print Settings and the sheet of paper runs through the Pro-10 without printing. Any idea what the issue is here? Color profiles work great!
Sorry ... no bright ideas...
Hello. I just watched your tutorial among many others as part of my research. My X-Rite i1 device will be delivered tomorrow and I want to know what to do right away. My question is: Do I need to print the color squares every time I calibrate (which I understand should be done once a week)? Thanks
Hi Max... you don’t need to calibrate every week. I calibrate my monitor every few months, or if I change the lighting setup in my studio. You do not need to print any test sheets for that. The print sheets are only needed when calibrating your printer. I do that when I change the ink or, of course, the first time I get a new paper stock. Have fun!
Does the i1 Studio use the monitor calibration color profile as its base for the printer calibration? I have one of the X Rite monitor calibrator, can’t remember which one, but there is section on the main panel for printer calibration. I just don’t have the module for it. I would rather have one unit that does it all.
I'm not sure if I entirely follow your question... The same hardware is used to calibrate a monitor or printer. Each calibrated device gets its own color profile.
Nevermind Scott. I found out that info I needed while watching a different video on the same system. I know how it works now. Sorry for the confusion.
When Printing a profiling test chart in the workflow, do we change any of the printer preferences to make sure we get to a "level set" place. So we set the media type, print quality, under Color settings there are a whole bunch of things to do with color matching (driver matching, ICC Profile Matching, ICM, etc). I assume since you just went from the Paper Description to let your prints cure for a couple of hours, that we just take defaults? My concern was that one persons default printer settings are different than anothers'. And that the calibration could be affected by this. I have the Canon ImagePROGRAF PRO-2000 large format printer, and I am currently at all of its defaults on the printer and my driver installation. I've got both my BenQ SW320's all calibrated down to about 0.6 (the dual setup caused me grief at first, but I figured that one out) and was hoping to get my different printer papers dialed in as well. I will be using a combination of ImagePrint R.E.D., LightRoom, and PhotoShop to do prints. I assume that I will need to go back through and "Load Saved Session" to print out the tests in each application I plan on using that paper profile in? Final question is around print head replacement. Is it best to re-generate ICC's everytime your replace a printer head? Would seem to me, there could be slight variations there; and if we have bought into not using paper manufacturers ICC files (which would probably by fine for most people), then it might be a task worth doing or no? Thanks for the videos, very helpful as I try to figure this whole process out.
I didn't change any of the defaults on my printer. I did follow the guidance from my paper stock provider (I use Red River Paper) for printer settings for things like the surface type (glossy vs. matte) and any special settings for paper thickness. You're right... different printer will have different defaults. And strictly speaking, each printer within a model family could behave ever-so-slightly differently. That's why we calibrate.
Yes, if you're using different paper stocks, you'll want to calibrate for each type of paper. Each profile is for a printer/paper combination. And yes, to get the most accurate representation, recalibrating after a head swap is best. Some of the most discerning recalibrate after ink cartridge swaps. Can't say I personally do that :)
@@ScottDavenport So you needed to show us that @scott. including turning off printer colour mgt.
Hi Scott. I have Canon Pixma Pro 100, I want to buy the X Rite i1 to calibrate my printer. Do you think it is work for my printer or I will wasting my money. Thanks
Hi Hien ... there is no reason the i1 Studio shouldn't work for your printer. The device doesn't care what printer outputs the calibration pages. Of course, when you name the profile, you'll want to include the printer/paper combination. That's for us humans and our bookkeeping :)
Hello Scott, thank you very much for these vieos, I havn't found anyone as good as you when it comes to explaining this process! Can I ask, did you find after you calibrated your monitor and printer, your prints came out very close to what you see on screen? Or is there further adjustments needed? Thank you
After calibration, and then soft proofing, the prints come out very close to what I see on screen. I recalibrate my screen periodically. For the printer, I'll do it when I've swapped a number of ink cartridges, or am using a new paper. I suppose, strictly speaking, I should recalibrate whenever I change ink... but hey, I'm human :)
@@ScottDavenport Ah I see. Great, thanks for your feedback! I've just bough a i1 Display Studio so looking forward to getting some decent prints finally
Hay Scott Davenport, my name is Michael Devonport. How is your day!!!
Beyond all expectations, Michael. Have fun!
Scott, would this work with a dye sub printer? I have DNP printers, and they use CYM0.
I'm not sure about that one. Best to ask X-Rite directly.
Hello, Scott.
I have a question for you.
I took a photo in sRGB. Then I calibrated my screen and generated my camera profile using ColorChecker, and I also calibrated my printer. Even so, the printout colors are a bit different. Do I have to transform my RGB photo into CMYK mode before sending it to print? Do you think I am omitting anything?
Thank you very much.
At a glance, it doesn't seem you're skipping anything. There is almost always a little variance in colors - different devices and papers have limits on what they can produce and display.
@@ScottDavenport so, it is not necessary change to CMYK
I’ve not had to do that with my setup. If you’re printing with a lab, their instructions may call for it.
Hi Scott. May I ask you what "preferences' should be set on the printer when you choose it , just before starting to print the first prints for the i1studio calibration files? Is it "NO ICM", or it does not matter what you choose ? I am using an epson 3880.
regards
Luc
Hi Luc... I believe that refers to the file extension on the profile, either ICC or ICM. I’ve not changed it from the default. I suppose it’s there for devices or OSs that require an ICM file.
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Hi Scott
X-Rite answered my question. When it is ready to print, you must have chosen for an epson In 'Main ' page setup option "Mode" ; "Custom"; "OFF(no color adjustment)".
regards
Luc
Thanks for sharing the extra info, Luc!
@@lukepo9535 thank you for that info. Scott should put that in his video.
hello Scott, very interesting tuto to see how we proceed with such system.
I have just bought a spyder studio kit.
Do you consider the profile you did is better than one you have found on RR site ?
In my case I am using 13x18cm epson ultra glossy photo paper 300g/m^2 with a SC-P600 printer. I am looking for a more professional paper but it is ok for lot of cases.
However I have a huge difference, mainly lightness and a little color shift, between lightroom (calibrated Philips 273ELH 200 euros monitor) and P600.
P600 seems to install a glossy profile i use but not sure it is reliable so i'd like to try my own one.
The profiles I created are about 10% or so better than the ones I got from Red River. Noticeable to the discerning eye, much less so to the casual observer. That being said, the Red River profiles are very good. I use the RR profiles for papers I don't print with as often (profiling uses a non-trivial amount of ink, and paper of course :)
Thank you Scott. What a fast support :-) I just visit the epson website and it is less user friendly than RR you show. first P600 and P800 don't exist anymore. second i have not found yet the profiles. Third, my paper is so "standard in mediamarkt,... that there is no S/N ref and not sure i would find something accurate. so i think no choice here than trying to make my own one. i am looking again your LR tutos about soft proofing to understand wht my green background behind my cream flowers becomr white flower on dark background
How do you use the i1 studio to match your monitor to your printer?
Just calibrate both your monitor and printer with the i1. They get matched because the i1 software is the common reference point.
@@ScottDavenport doesn't work. contrast ratio of paper is different than the monitor. looks like i1 studio is missing the functionality required to do this, that is in the i1 pro: ruclips.net/video/1vqzft1nHnc/видео.html
Hi, Does this work for Epson sure lab d700?
No reason it shouldn’t. It is not specific to a printer brand.
Fotospeed do a free service for this.
That’s nice!
£15 if you use a different branded paper.
I got better results by allowing my Epson EcoTank ET-7750 to 'Manage Print Colours' - we underestimate how good operating systems are and the rigour they apply to colour. XRite software is complete rubbish and their online support is a mess.
are you happy with your epson 7750 printer? really so bad is the this gauge? Thanks!