Look at United transfers. Antony from market value 30-40m €, at the deal done = almost 100m £. Rasmus valued at max 50m €, at deal done it was 70m £. Zirkzee at 20m €, at deal done it became 40m £. I smell something fishy in here. Like money laundry. I dont think those rich billionaire are so easy to be scammed. It must be something fishy deal in here.
I think they were just buying players from teams that didn't want to sell. A players value is determined by how important they are to the selling club, that market value thing doesn't really mean anything
I actually hope this is the case at least the disastrous, incompetence would make a little more sense. Might be our only way to get rid of the Glazers if they're charged and convicted with Money Laundering 😂
None of the so called cartel wanted this in but the reality is it’s working. That’s why clubs like Fulham, Villa, Bournemouth, Brighton and even Newcastle are doing better. Chelsea, United, Citeh are finding it harder to steal the best players from other clubs. Recruitment is having to be better, you can’t just outbid everyone. So whilst Citeh, United, Villa, Newcastle and Chelsea cry when you look at the teams below it’s actually working. But nobody wants to point that out they just cry the Saudi;s can’t spend what they want.
@@amlina23 the laughable part is it’s made them more competitive. Their best players aren’t getting poached. They’ve already got into the CL once with decent recruitment. With another solid window they could close the gap further. The fact is PSR forces you to do it in a sustainable way. If they open the flood gates Newcastle would just get raided for their best players. PSR has stopped the cartels poaching players.
@@Markos5511 - Good point about players not being poached but the £105 million PSR limit is out of date now. Also Mike Ashley no longer owns Newcastle, the Saudis do and somehow I dont think they will just roll over to the septic 6 clubs "and get raided for their best players", in fact its Newcastle that would be doing the raiding but for Richard Masters and his cronies...
@@Markos5511 How is it working? In the past we used to have a variety of teams competing for trophies eg Luton, Wigan, Fulham, Blackburn, Middlesbrough etc, now it's the same teams every year.
Masters is just a poodle for big six clubs - constantly changing the goal posts to avoid any club joining the party.......corruption on a grand scale............absolutely no excuses
So how do you explain Newcastle and Villa getting into the CL? How do you explain that this is the most competitive league in years with Bournemouth, Brighton, Villa, Newcastle, Forest doing better. Why are United, Spurs struggling? Why have City fallen off a cliff because they can’t go out and steal everyone’s best players. Brighton spent huge in the transfer market, one of the biggest spenders this year. If you can’t see that PSR or FFP is slowly working then you’re just not looking.
@@Markos5511 Once again who are all these players Manchester City have stolen. If falling off a cliff is 6th what does that say for some of the other clubs. Manchester City have stuggled this season simply because they`ve been crippled with injuries not helped by the fact their squad is ageing.
@ I’ve just named them all plus there’s many more as you go down the years. Phillips is another. Paid silly money and benched him. The old boring injuries excuse like other teams don’t have that. Grow up lad you’re boring me. You’ve fallen off a cliff cause you can’t spend and soon to hopefully be relegated when you’re found out to be cheating for the last 7 years.
Hes clueless at running a football club. A club like Man U or Liverpool or Newcastle are too important to the community to be treated like a market stall.
Possiblt the bigges component of Liverpool's success has been from running the club as a sustainble business. It's meant that the team and manager can be properly resourced. The problem with Utd is they have not been run as a sustainble business. This has lead to the absolutely dross that now plays for them and the stupid contracts they have been given. Old school football ownership and operations is dead and Utd are proof of that
It's all very well selling McTominay at a clear profit, but does anyone trust Man U to spend that money well bearing in mind recent transfer windows? Same will happen with Rashford - net result they'll be down two (still fairly decent) players with nothing to show for it.
Bloom has bankrolled Brighton to the tune of about £400m using interest-free loans. Though they have started to pay some of that back. Not knocking it, it's a good thing, especially as some of that was for the stadium and training ground, but they haven't been run on a self-sustaining basis, they've made an operating loss in 9 of the last 10 years.
@@mervynpeters Brighton do have a good model, hence why they have been able to spend big this year. With the players they sold to Chelsea and Liverpool they got over 200 million. And replaced them with 125 million. They are performing better. Every club operates with debt, every business to some degree operates with debt.
As a Liverpool fan I actually feel sorry for Amorim because he literally needs to get most players out because they don’t play for the shirt anymore, no effort and there’s no manager in the world that could sort out this club, starts from the top and Jim Radcliffe and inios have already made so many bad decisions
I bet if they are anywhere close the FA will dock Leicester points to help Utd stay up. They will probably just dock points off all the bottom three while 115fc carry on regardles
could imagine if you owned a company and wanted to invest your own money to make it better but you cant becasuse your competitors decided they didnt want you too just madness
PSR is shocking, this is killing our clubs and we are riding along with it. Man U got an additional 40 million allowance for there sale to INEOS, this is corrupt to the core.
Are you saying that it's bad that United got an extra 40mil from the sale? United should never have been able to be bought with debt 20 years ago and if it wasn't for that we'd be inal a very strong financial position.
Great. Newcastle are now the richest club in the world after Ashley's excellent business practices and hardball negotiation tactics. If Ineos do the same with Utd then I will be delighted
As a stock market listed company, any investor in Manchester United who takes control of 29% of the companies shares has to make a full takeover over offer for EVERY share, hence why Ineos or Radcliffe if you like have taken their holding to just over 28%. At this stage Ineos are large investors in the Manchester United and the Glazers are the majority owners. United fans have had the wool pulled over their eyes until Ineos make an offer for full control and I'm sure the Glazers will be taking their annual £100m out of the club like they always do. Know your enemy United fans.
@@creepingbrain If you say so Champ 😂! Ask Terry he will confirm what I've said. In the UK it is Rule 9 of City code, I'm not sure what the SEC version is as I'm not so familiar with the US and United are listed in America. IG The 30% threshold is particularly notable. A company holding a 29.9% stake in another is not uncommon nor coincidental. This is because (in most cases) they cannot own more than 30% of the business without having to make an offer for the entire company. These high stakes can be strong precursors to possible M&A activity, especially if it has involved stake-building, when a business steadily buys more shares over a longer period of time.
A chemical plant 😂.. hopefully less poisoning than his other production plants. Not a ManU fan but respectfully sad to see the decline in motion of such an iconic club. Sometimes having the impression that Ratcliffe is Liverpool’s secret agent..
As a Man Utd fan we deserve to be where we are. We're skint as hell we're losing alot of money every year. We're in massive debt plus owe hundreds of millions to other clubs in transfer fees that need to be paid off imminently. We're gonna suffer for a long time unfortunately
You'd think Matterface being a Chelsea fan, would know about accountancy shenanigans, bearing in mind Chelsea sold a hotel to their owners to avoid the breaching the very same regulations?🙄
How are they going to work it if united or city go down, cause surely no city players will have regulations clauses in there contacts so next year they would have no chance or meeting psr so another big deduction
Leicester can’t compete after winning the league then fa cup. Had to sell Kante, Maguire, Maddison, Barnes, castagne, dewsbury-hall plus more all for huge profits. The divide between top and lower echelon growing massively. Impossible to compete. Fair play to Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth. Stick in there as long as you can. Rules n regs firmly against you.
No need for United to worry about an interest rate after loans from owners as those bastards just take money out of the club, they’ve never put a penny of their money in.
You should always spend cute just try telling these self appointed experts in non jobs. Get rid of them and let the manager work within a budget, not someone like an Ashworth and other non football people.
Rich Peoples Mindset: If you want me to pay my taxes then change the tax code... But I know you won't because you don't want to pay taxes either! Taxes are for poor people.
As a matter of fact, owners can still put money in and convert into equity. This can be used to spend by club. But owners instead love taking loans on club books.
Matter face the commentary guy who says Cassseeeeeeee meee roh in a weird Spanish accent Even though he is Brazilian Leeeesandrro Martinrsssssss . But a Scots player Welsh player or scouser not 😅. Just those 2 . What a guy who owns a business does its his choice He is a billionaire your sat in a room wearing headphones 🎧.
United has been a chemical dump……sorry, “manure dump” for 10 years now, why are people so shocked they stink the joint out now? Can we get back to talking about top clubs only, and not relegation battlers.
Ratcliffe was a big backer of Brexit, and look what has happened to the country since 2016. Ratcliffe is a big backer of MUFC. What could possibly go wrong ??? 😂😂😂
Trying to turn united into a chemical plant. What does that even mean,. Business is business whether it's a chemical plant, a football club, or a corner shop If a business is losing money every year, you can either find a way to increase revenues, you can borrow money to cover those losses, or you can cut costs. With United, revenues are largely dependent on team performance. Borrowing money isn't an option because that doesn't solve the problem and doesn't help with FFP. So costs have to be cut.
You don't know Football if PSR is removed Newcastle will win the league 100years in a row infact all the best players will move there if they offer them a weekly wage if €10 millions who will then compete? Is that competitive balance? If United were owned by the Qataris,a club the generated that revenue being owned by them will be the end of football cause they will win everything Newcastle have richer owners than all premier League owners combined. I'm sick of hearing that PSR protect United and other top clubs if They were biased towards United will the take over with GLAZERS have happened in the first place where is that even done in Football? They sole aim was to level the playing field in the league United were the richest in the world at the time.Thwy shouldn't be struggling with PSR if not the GLAZERS who don't put a penny in why taking billions out. There are others ways PSR can affect to inject cash into your clubs building a World class Stadium and Training ground revenues come from there, Injecting cash into your club is allowed when there is a loss which the GLAZERS never did once even the sale of Shares to Sir Jim ended up costing United as they hard to pay for the legal fees. I see Man cheaty fans complaining because they have 115 charges they want to inflate Sponsorship deals to 1 billion a week cheats😮
What Do you Man u fans want???? You cried and blamed The Glaziers from everything from the team to the managers to the standard of the Tea in Old Trafford cafes, I don't you think you know what you want!
Look at United transfers. Antony from market value 30-40m €, at the deal done = almost 100m £. Rasmus valued at max 50m €, at deal done it was 70m £. Zirkzee at 20m €, at deal done it became 40m £. I smell something fishy in here. Like money laundry. I dont think those rich billionaire are so easy to be scammed. It must be something fishy deal in here.
I think they were just buying players from teams that didn't want to sell.
A players value is determined by how important they are to the selling club, that market value thing doesn't really mean anything
No any top player wants to go to Utd... They had to pay over the limit and hope
zirkzee clause was 40m
the market value is determined by the market, not some of your theoretical internet pages
I actually hope this is the case at least the disastrous, incompetence would make a little more sense. Might be our only way to get rid of the Glazers if they're charged and convicted with Money Laundering 😂
The cartel wanted PSR rules tightened up when the Toon got taken over. Now its crippling them, lets all laugh at Manure 😂😂😂
None of the so called cartel wanted this in but the reality is it’s working. That’s why clubs like Fulham, Villa, Bournemouth, Brighton and even Newcastle are doing better. Chelsea, United, Citeh are finding it harder to steal the best players from other clubs. Recruitment is having to be better, you can’t just outbid everyone. So whilst Citeh, United, Villa, Newcastle and Chelsea cry when you look at the teams below it’s actually working. But nobody wants to point that out they just cry the Saudi;s can’t spend what they want.
Aye, the whole of the country did this to spite Newcastle. You carry THAT much weight…
@@amlina23 the laughable part is it’s made them more competitive. Their best players aren’t getting poached. They’ve already got into the CL once with decent recruitment. With another solid window they could close the gap further. The fact is PSR forces you to do it in a sustainable way. If they open the flood gates Newcastle would just get raided for their best players. PSR has stopped the cartels poaching players.
@@Markos5511 - Good point about players not being poached but the £105 million PSR limit is out of date now.
Also Mike Ashley no longer owns Newcastle, the Saudis do and somehow I dont think they will just roll over to the septic 6 clubs "and get raided for their best players", in fact its Newcastle that would be doing the raiding but for Richard Masters and his cronies...
@@Markos5511 How is it working? In the past we used to have a variety of teams competing for trophies eg Luton, Wigan, Fulham, Blackburn, Middlesbrough etc, now it's the same teams every year.
Masters is just a poodle for big six clubs - constantly changing the goal posts to avoid any club joining the party.......corruption on a grand scale............absolutely no excuses
So how do you explain Newcastle and Villa getting into the CL? How do you explain that this is the most competitive league in years with Bournemouth, Brighton, Villa, Newcastle, Forest doing better. Why are United, Spurs struggling? Why have City fallen off a cliff because they can’t go out and steal everyone’s best players. Brighton spent huge in the transfer market, one of the biggest spenders this year. If you can’t see that PSR or FFP is slowly working then you’re just not looking.
@@Markos5511 Once again who are all these players Manchester City have stolen. If falling off a cliff is 6th what does that say for some of the other clubs. Manchester City have stuggled this season simply because they`ve been crippled with injuries not helped by the fact their squad is ageing.
@ I’ve just named them all plus there’s many more as you go down the years. Phillips is another. Paid silly money and benched him. The old boring injuries excuse like other teams don’t have that. Grow up lad you’re boring me. You’ve fallen off a cliff cause you can’t spend and soon to hopefully be relegated when you’re found out to be cheating for the last 7 years.
What a load of rubbish. Just look at Newcastle. Isak, Gordon, tonali, Guimares - they are flying
We've already got 2 pretender club's in Chelski & Man Shitty. You wanna be in the top 6 earn it over a 100 year period simple
Hes clueless at running a football club.
A club like Man U or Liverpool or Newcastle are too important to the community to be treated like a market stall.
No one had an issue when Ashley was prostituting us for free advertising for 14 years whilst aiming for 17th.
Possiblt the bigges component of Liverpool's success has been from running the club as a sustainble business. It's meant that the team and manager can be properly resourced. The problem with Utd is they have not been run as a sustainble business. This has lead to the absolutely dross that now plays for them and the stupid contracts they have been given. Old school football ownership and operations is dead and Utd are proof of that
True
Then they should have put the money up… they didn’t he did: he will/should get them relegated and rake it in
I dont think so, chemical plants have value. And as a rule cant have leaky roofs.
It's all very well selling McTominay at a clear profit, but does anyone trust Man U to spend that money well bearing in mind recent transfer windows? Same will happen with Rashford - net result they'll be down two (still fairly decent) players with nothing to show for it.
these PSR rules are killing football
you mean the rules stop clubs going bust
@@barrypower6822 yeah the rule brought in after the Saudi takeover is to stop Newcastle going bust with 2 trillion behind them rofl wake up
@@barrypower6822no, just some clubs are over a BILLION In debt
You mean saving football my team can't compete with unlimited budgets it's perfectly fair
Brighton are role model football team and company!!!
Brighton have been propped up by their owner to the tune of around 500 million
Bloom has bankrolled Brighton to the tune of about £400m using interest-free loans. Though they have started to pay some of that back.
Not knocking it, it's a good thing, especially as some of that was for the stadium and training ground, but they haven't been run on a self-sustaining basis, they've made an operating loss in 9 of the last 10 years.
😂😂😂😂 yea of course 500million of free owner loans
@@mervynpeters Brighton do have a good model, hence why they have been able to spend big this year. With the players they sold to Chelsea and Liverpool they got over 200 million. And replaced them with 125 million. They are performing better. Every club operates with debt, every business to some degree operates with debt.
How? The jewish owner was giving interest free, no repay date loans to himself.
I’m sure Newcastle will take a couple quid for almiron and longstaff better than what manU have at the moment 😢
I couldnt agree more 😂
Good shout
As a Liverpool fan I actually feel sorry for Amorim because he literally needs to get most players out because they don’t play for the shirt anymore, no effort and there’s no manager in the world that could sort out this club, starts from the top and Jim Radcliffe and inios have already made so many bad decisions
I bet if they are anywhere close the FA will dock Leicester points to help Utd stay up. They will probably just dock points off all the bottom three while 115fc carry on regardles
.....sadly manure are entitled. PSR will find a way to help them along.
End PSR now!! Its ruining competition. Criminal how much money Manure & Chelsea have spent in the past few years
could imagine if you owned a company and wanted to invest your own money to make it better but you cant becasuse your competitors decided they didnt want you too just madness
No it's not. It's football
I genuinely laughed at the title 😂😂😂
PSR is shocking, this is killing our clubs and we are riding along with it. Man U got an additional 40 million allowance for there sale to INEOS, this is corrupt to the core.
Are you saying that it's bad that United got an extra 40mil from the sale? United should never have been able to be bought with debt 20 years ago and if it wasn't for that we'd be inal a very strong financial position.
United didn't get any FFP allowance for the takeover costs.
@@creepingbrain united gets extra allowance in every window because they are United
@@joblogos2367 exactly and I'm an arsenal fan. How that takeover was legal is beyond me
@@CharlieKerr11And you are a typical ABU NUMBSKULL.
3:39 good stuff
Mike Ashley 2
Great. Newcastle are now the richest club in the world after Ashley's excellent business practices and hardball negotiation tactics. If Ineos do the same with Utd then I will be delighted
@@jhpfdijtuiweruotexcellent business practice? Your having a laugh aren't you?
He’s trying to turn united into a chemical plant😂😂😂😂 well there’s plenty manure there
This made up interest charge is like the gas and electricity standing charge
This is time to get rid of the Glazzers and Jim Ratcliff. They are the reason we still have debt
As a stock market listed company, any investor in Manchester United who takes control of 29% of the companies shares has to make a full takeover over offer for EVERY share, hence why Ineos or Radcliffe if you like have taken their holding to just over 28%.
At this stage Ineos are large investors in the Manchester United and the Glazers are the majority owners.
United fans have had the wool pulled over their eyes until Ineos make an offer for full control and I'm sure the Glazers will be taking their annual £100m out of the club like they always do.
Know your enemy United fans.
Man United simply haven't had the money to spend on the squad that they've needed to over the years, hence the massive drop off
None of that is true.
@DarnallDubois are you joking you've spent over a billion pounds on less than average garbage and you're crying the poor tale 😂
@@creepingbrain If you say so Champ 😂!
Ask Terry he will confirm what I've said.
In the UK it is Rule 9 of City code, I'm not sure what the SEC version is as I'm not so familiar with the US and United are listed in America.
IG
The 30% threshold is particularly notable. A company holding a 29.9% stake in another is not uncommon nor coincidental. This is because (in most cases) they cannot own more than 30% of the business without having to make an offer for the entire company. These high stakes can be strong precursors to possible M&A activity, especially if it has involved stake-building, when a business steadily buys more shares over a longer period of time.
The 100m wasn't taken out of the club last year. So it's not annual right now.
Man Utd needs to be levelled.
A chemical plant 😂.. hopefully less poisoning than his other production plants. Not a ManU fan but respectfully sad to see the decline in motion of such an iconic club. Sometimes having the impression that Ratcliffe is Liverpool’s secret agent..
Absolutely 💯 😂
PSR was bought in to keep the status quo, but now it's starting to hit the "bigger" clubs. I wonder how long before rules change.
As a Man Utd fan we deserve to be where we are. We're skint as hell we're losing alot of money every year. We're in massive debt plus owe hundreds of millions to other clubs in transfer fees that need to be paid off imminently. We're gonna suffer for a long time unfortunately
I love that some much broadcasting is given over to talking about football finance. Who doesn't want to hear from Kieran Maguire?
3:16 Ahhhhh, now it makes sense why clubs waste so much more time on womens football, it helps with the dodgy accounting.
You'd think Matterface being a Chelsea fan, would know about accountancy shenanigans, bearing in mind Chelsea sold a hotel to their owners to avoid the breaching the very same regulations?🙄
Man U..Struggle..Quality 👏👏👏
Btw that Academy loophole wouldnt be possible in the EFL.
It's becoming embarrassing watching Utd pundits. Long may it continue.
Can Kieran just tell his son Harry to agree to cancel his contract at United.
Also can someone explain Bournemouth?
Creating interest rates is one of the things that set the nutty Austrian off all those years ago
How are they going to work it if united or city go down, cause surely no city players will have regulations clauses in there contacts so next year they would have no chance or meeting psr so another big deduction
hicks and gillette rolled into one, fight back or lose your club
Don't wish that on Utd. It will be the end for that club. Those cowboys brought Liverpool to the brink.
@@matthewdoyle3628 They`ve got their own cowboys in charge they dont need lpool`s.
Mike Ashley on steroids
It definitely wasn’t clear he was going to do this…. 😂😂😂😂😂 you got what you ask for now take it
Leicester can’t compete after winning the league then fa cup. Had to sell Kante, Maguire, Maddison, Barnes, castagne, dewsbury-hall plus more all for huge profits. The divide between top and lower echelon growing massively. Impossible to compete. Fair play to Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth. Stick in there as long as you can. Rules n regs firmly against you.
Football clubs should be owned by supporters of that football club.
NO club would exist
@@reduneyconceicao3420Not true.
Mmm i wonder what Talkutd will be discussing all day today??
Oh what a suprise its man u again 🥱🥱🥱🥱
No need for United to worry about an interest rate after loans from owners as those bastards just take money out of the club, they’ve never put a penny of their money in.
This is a toxic place, old Trafford
None of this makes any sense. Leicester are struggling but Man Ure are fine - it’s all a rip off
Man utd are in serious trouble and I'm loving every minute of it
“The losses being made by the women’s team” 😂
You should always spend cute just try telling these self appointed experts in non jobs. Get rid of them and let the manager work within a budget, not someone like an Ashworth and other non football people.
A ManUre processing plant would certainly fertilize the Championship 👻
It is a toxic environment 🤢 real shame how they’ve fallen considering the team they were. Sack/Lose Sir Alex lose Man U.
Brain dead caller. Why do they always cater to people who want people or players sacked?
because its TALK SPORT! They only want polarising &/or extreme emotional callers because they think its good for their listeners.
Chemical plant 😂😂😂
Losses being made by the women's team.... why are the women's game allowed to make losses??? Seems exist lol
Rich Peoples Mindset: If you want me to pay my taxes then change the tax code... But I know you won't because you don't want to pay taxes either! Taxes are for poor people.
Well it has been toxic for years it`s just a continuation process.
Sir Jim Ratcliffe ❤
Its an upgrade on a waste management company. (United fan)
As a matter of fact, owners can still put money in and convert into equity. This can be used to spend by club. But owners instead love taking loans on club books.
PSR rules only worry you if your club is run badly
he's turning Manchester United into a chemical plant.........................lol
Maybe he is trying to keep the shares low to buy more at a lower price
Matter face the commentary guy who says Cassseeeeeeee meee roh in a weird Spanish accent Even though he is Brazilian Leeeesandrro Martinrsssssss . But a Scots player Welsh player or scouser not 😅.
Just those 2 .
What a guy who owns a business does its his choice He is a billionaire your sat in a room wearing headphones 🎧.
Scrap PSR it’s a scam
😂😂😂lol...
Bunting is the goat
Does chemical pla nt mean toxic😂
Don't give up the day job. Did you retain anything else from doing chemistry at school ?
Man U as bad as Spurs .
United has been a chemical dump……sorry, “manure dump” for 10 years now, why are people so shocked they stink the joint out now?
Can we get back to talking about top clubs only, and not relegation battlers.
Ratcliffe was a big backer of Brexit, and look what has happened to the country since 2016.
Ratcliffe is a big backer of MUFC. What could possibly go wrong ??? 😂😂😂
Backs brexit and lives in monaco. Its what they do😂 CALL IT OUT.
Trying to turn united into a chemical plant. What does that even mean,.
Business is business whether it's a chemical plant, a football club, or a corner shop
If a business is losing money every year, you can either find a way to increase revenues, you can borrow money to cover those losses, or you can cut costs.
With United, revenues are largely dependent on team performance. Borrowing money isn't an option because that doesn't solve the problem and doesn't help with FFP. So costs have to be cut.
Think
You don't know Football if PSR is removed Newcastle will win the league 100years in a row infact all the best players will move there if they offer them a weekly wage if €10 millions who will then compete? Is that competitive balance? If United were owned by the Qataris,a club the generated that revenue being owned by them will be the end of football cause they will win everything Newcastle have richer owners than all premier League owners combined. I'm sick of hearing that PSR protect United and other top clubs if They were biased towards United will the take over with GLAZERS have happened in the first place where is that even done in Football? They sole aim was to level the playing field in the league United were the richest in the world at the time.Thwy shouldn't be struggling with PSR if not the GLAZERS who don't put a penny in why taking billions out. There are others ways PSR can affect to inject cash into your clubs building a World class Stadium and Training ground revenues come from there, Injecting cash into your club is allowed when there is a loss which the GLAZERS never did once even the sale of Shares to Sir Jim ended up costing United as they hard to pay for the legal fees.
I see Man cheaty fans complaining because they have 115 charges they want to inflate Sponsorship deals to 1 billion a week cheats😮
Yeah....
Newcastle are going to offer players €10m a week.
Are you African by any chance?
What Do you Man u fans want???? You cried and blamed The Glaziers from everything from the team to the managers to the standard of the Tea in Old Trafford cafes, I don't you think you know what you want!