Well, That Kinda Sucked.. Make sure you're prepared!!
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Also if you have locking lug nuts, be sure you have the key (tool) and know where it is stored.
AMEN to that ! I had taken our RAV4 to the Toyota dealer for a complimentary oil change and tire rotation . When I got into the car to go home I thought no more about it. 3 months later I was getting ready to take the RAV to my friendly neighborhood shop for state inspection and I was getting everything gathered up for the drop off . Found all the paperwork and everything except for the wheel lock KEY . Turns out that we had been driving around for months without the ability to remove a flat & change it without knowing. Someone at the dealership had not returned them to our car . Lesson learned. I had the wheel locks removed and chucked them out. Our mechanic reminded me of how useless they are if a thief really wants your tires and wheels . His special tool had them off in SECONDS.
At least you got rescued. I always make sure my vehicles have the proper jacking equipment and a spare. If it doesn't have a spare it won't be my vehicle. Keep the good stuff coming.
Luv ole school station wagons where spare tire in the back of car protected and not rusted out
We always used tire plugs. Didn't know any better. We just dipped them in rubber cement before we installed them. I live in Canada so that rusty crusty toy tire is probably flat but that doesn't matter anyway because it is seize in place or it fell off a ten thousand freedom units ago.
FYI---- Fixaflat attacks some TPS sensors, if used count on replacing the sensor
(Just one lesson of many learned the hard way )
P. R. Dutton PhD, cert. Chevy. & ASE
I’ve been a tow truck operator for 35 years. There was never any doubt, that every flat tire I changed had a flat spare tire. Back in the day we had the air caddy, but that was hit or miss of holding air or even enough to fill the spare. The trucks of the past 20 or so years, have air brakes so we can tap into the air tanks with a coupler and have air hoses. Much better these days. Now it’s getting to a car that hasn’t had a hub cap on it for 10 years and the lugs come off a quarter turn at a time. And no one has the Jack tools anyway. Previous owners or dealer takes them out or something. Also, the locking lug tool. Good luck finding that. Oh, I can go on and on. And that’s just on the subject of a flat tire.
I bought an old truck that's a work in progress. Decided to drive it for the holiday weekend. First thing I did before going anywhere was take the tire inflator and jump starter from my other truck, charge the starter and put both in my new-old truck. I had a tool kit under the back seat of the newer truck, and it went in the truck I was driving. A fuel can and an empty 1 gal. windhield washer fluid container went in the bed. All the things that I didn't have spares of, I ordered new ones to give my daily driver an update.
My jump starter has USB ports, and I added universal cables for phones and other devices. But because it's so cheap, I got another USB adapter for the lighter socket, and more cables that I had spare. It may seem like overkill, but when I drove home at night in a truck with no GPS display, I realized how dependent on GPS navigation I had become. And that my only paper map of the area was in the kitchen drawer at home. I had forgotten to charge my phone before leaving, so having the ability to charge en route meant having a working phone later that night.
If you thought to yourself "I have a late model car, I don't need to worry" think again. While in-car GPS was briefly a thing, most new cars rely totally on your phone's GPS radio and map data. If the phone battery dies, you're out of luck. Same with calling.
Yes, please do a video on tire plugs. I have tried it before, and it did not work, but I must have done something wrong. Really would be handy to know how to do it right so that I could fix my tires instead of paying someone $20 a pop to patch it from the inside, thanks!
I'm so happy my job Is 6 miles away from me. I couldn't imagine driving 30 miles to work.
I’ve enjoyed watching your content. I’ve only ever enjoyed watching Scotty Kilmer and the car care nut. I’m from Chicago. I enjoy watching all of your videos now as well. Enjoy your hard work, honesty, and attention to detail and sharing your knowledge. Thanks man keep wrenching
Chrisfix, and ericthecarguy, are both good channels also
If you live in the rust belt make sure your tire lift works. they rust and freeze up often. I crank mine down and lube every year.
I like to make sure my spare comes down every year and check the tire pressure at the same time.
Yep, me too twice a year...
That's very true I have always had a big emergency tool kit even jumper cables it is amazing how many people don't have them
on some spare tires they put tpms on them. When they are low they trigger a low tire light.
Every used car I buy, checking spare tire & tools is first on my list before oil change. 2nd is buying 4 new Firestone tires. Last place on earth i want a flat is on the New Jersey turnpike at 6am. Granted, new tires can go flat but narrows down the odds of happening to begin with
I bought a used 95 Lincoln Mark VIII in 97 from the Lincoln dealer. Several years later, I had a flat on the road and found out the spare wheel didn't have the correct lug pattern for my car. I had to call a tow truck and was lucky enough that the tow truck owner had a tire shop and installed a new tire on my rim. The flat rear tire shredded before I knew it was failing due to the air suspension keeping the car level and the stereo being turned up.
Been using plugs for years and I don't take them to get patched from the inside afterwards. I actually carry the kit and a Viair 12v compressor in my truck. Although plugging load range E light truck tires is a bear!
I bought a can once, on special, and actually used it on my sister's car, as it did not come from factory with a spare. Now she has a working spare, and the can got her through a month of not being able to get to fix the flat. Did check my spare tyre, and yes it was flat, but you have to remove it from the boot to check it. Also with that spare under the car, please take a can of dry chain lube, and spray on the threads of that stud, so it can actually come loose off there when needed. Dry lube, so it does not attract dust and become a dust block. Same for the jack, as they do not come with much lube from the factory, so spray with brake clean, and get the grease off, and spray with chain lube, and run end to end, plus on the bearings and pivots, and then wrap in a cloth, sprayed with a thin coat on the inside, to both protect from rattles, and to provide you with a cloth to clean your hands when changing.
Yes have had the pleasure of getting the spare off, using a hacksaw blade, on the side of a highway, because the steel bolt rusted fast to the nut. Fixed that the next day, stainless steel bolt, and a loose fitting nut, with a nice coat of molyslip between then in the threads, and a split pin to prevent the nut coming off. Was a tank hold down bolt, but 10 minutes with a grinder and a welder, to make a plate that was used to fix to the trailer chassis, and it never gave any issues ever again. Worst came to the worst use a shifter and pliers to undo the 2 M8 bolts that held it down, and slip through the centre hole. Next time I had to change it, again on side of freeway, after finding a nail I assume (only had the sidewalls left, after the middle shredded itself off, actually same spot I twice had to dodge a Hiace half shaft and wheel assembly complete, as it came past me) it was so easy to undo, jack up with the jack, and get the bolts off the trailer wheel.
Tip as well, lube the threads on the wheel fasteners, light coat works, and use a torque wrench to put them on, not Cletus and turn till it half way snaps. Impact driver to put them on means you never get them off with the socket in the car kit.
they want you to drop the tire to check the pressure that way the up/down does not sieze
one of my favorite auto repair channels! Great information as usual.
When it's raining is when it's fun to get that spare from under the car.
I’ve been plugging tires since 1973 as long as you do it right, last longer than the tire
Also water and debris will drain out of the spare tire now with it mounted face down. The way it was, it was gonna catch everything and rot
Just like the motto of the Boy Scouts. Always be prepared
On gravel roads mount the valve stem up. In the winter think concrete when trying to mount the tire.
Spare tires mounted with the Schrader valve facing up is one my pet peeves as well. I caught a screw in the shoulder of my newish tires recently and of course tire shops won't touch them if they have a puncture in the shoulder. So I put a plug in it and it has been just fine for over a year now.
I semi-regularly check my tire pressure and spare tires.
Make sure that your jack, under the passenger seat, isn't stuck because the bolt holding it down is rusted because it runs through the floor.
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I've always had
Good luck w plugs and never any catastrophic problems
Sorry about your mishap and frustration, however you did provide valuable info and tips! Thank you...😊
You know after watching this video of yours I thought to myself, I have seen this also in many vehicals ive Purchased, I think some people honestly put them valve up so outside of rim stays away from road salt and spray. Dumb move I agree with you. Just started watching your videos recently and i am quite impressed with your efforts. Keep up the work. Thanks for sharing. Bri in Ontario.
Hello Bri in Ontario. Thank for your reply. I hope all is well with you. Keep wrenching!
Ive patched many a tire with the tube patch and they have incredible longevity and are the best fix, you can drive thousands of miles on a patched tire
Most genious idea ever! VW bugs(I own a 71 SB) the air in the spare tire is used to propel the washer fluid. So you stand a really good chance of pulling out a flat spare tire!
You were supposed to overinflate the spare with that system, the pressure was given in the owner's manual. If vou needed the spare you were supposed to lower it to the correct pressure. Had to be careful to not damage the plastic hose and to keep the cap tight on top of monitoring the spare pressure. We love the Bugs, but some of us remember them new and remember that they were built as cheaply as possible. How many of your fuses are wrapped in tinfoil? 🤣
@@P_RO_ Zero fuses wrapped in foil! Nothing cobbed up on this beauty! Its funny,these cars were 1400 to 2k brand new,most drove more miles than any modern car,not to mention parts are still relatively cheep,the metal they were stamped out of is double the thickness as new cars and trucks! My bug came from a collection in AZ and has 43,000 original miles! In 1985 it got a color change from light blue to white by MACCO for the low,low price of $500! Sad thing is,it looks pretty darn good to this day!
I Believe the reason they mount the spare with the front of the wheel up is so the surface of the wheel that will contact the hub doesn't collect road dirt of mud.
either side can collect dirt if you drive down a muddy or dusty road, I think they want you to take car into dealer to get it checked.
@@ranger178 why would you have to take it to a dealer to be checked? Because the top of the rim is up? What would be stopping you? No special tool or equipment that they do not give you with the car to do drop it to check it. If the mounting surface of the wheel has debris caked to it the wheel wouldn't tighten correctly and will fall off while driving if not properly cleaned. Some people wouldn't know or notice before putting the wheel on.. We live in a world where a hot coffee cup has to say "contents are hot". Most spare tires that I had removed from the underneath of a vehicle had plenty of crap stuck on the face of the wheel that was situated up, that needed to be cleaned off before installing and next to none on the side that was down.
Great advice! Tire plug saved us many times, especially when wondering offroad. Might not be "right" and might not be permanent but it'll get you out of a tough situation almost every time.
This is why I have AAA. 😁
I’m in areas where new homes are under construction at least 3 times a week, for 40 plus years. Always carry a good tire plug kit and tire inflator. Never had a plug fail, of course if it was installed correctly and not near sidewall. Very few times i’ve had to use a spare. But like you said, always make sure it’s ready to go and the tools are there.
nowadays i always get it can't be patched from every car repair place I go to, so they want you to buy new tires I repair them with a plug and go another 10,000 miles.
The manufacturers make the valve stem up point up so on cars with the spare tire inside the car in a well, it can point down.
Each vehicle has it's own tool kit; any tool used on that vehicle stays with it. Any tool foresee possibly needing is there too. Also a handful of odd nuts/ bolts/ screws/ wire/ ty-wraps because sometimes things fall apart. Test meter (cheap will do for roadside), Haynes or Chilton's book, jumper cables, tow-strap, extra oil/ trans fluid/ coolant. Flashlights, extra batteries, gloves, and a rainsuit. If the car is a 'keeper' I'll buy an extra engine gaslet set and I save any good parts I replaced early likehioses, belts, and a couple spark plugs and wires. And of course tire changing tools, plus a cheap Harbor Frieght 12V compressor which will last 1-2 uses and plugs. Today's "no spare' cars are nuts, the low-profile tires very prone to being gashed irreparably on curbs and potholes. Plenty of paces in the hills around here where phones don't work, plenty of time's I've been a long way from help, I rely on me first.
They face the valve stem up to prevent damage to the valve stem, if you were to run over something with some height there is potential for damaging the valve stem. As ridiculous as it sounds, I've seen it. Mostly on rail trucks, and construction trucks. Sucks for us as mechanics, but there is a legit reason. Good show Kenny
So what your saying is we should put our regular tires with the valve stem inside also because of your reasoning?
@danherrick5785 not at all lol you're silly. It's nice to see the facetious attempt though. It's a wonder some people make it so far in life
Also some vehicles have the same wheel as a spare as the regular wheels and lowering the face of the wheel to the ground would scratch the wheel when dragging it out.
Yep had the problem with the colorados at the bus garage
They do that to protect the face of the wheel and the valve stem from something hitting it while driving. Should take down your spare in your annual pms and check it out or have it checked when you have your tires rotated. Makes perfect sense to me why they do that.
The only issue with mounting the tire with the valve stem down in the salt belt , salt will accumulate in the recesses and rot out the wheel
Tire plugs work well especially if they are the rubber ones that form to the tire rubber after using vulcanizing glue… the rope plugs are hit or miss and so is patching patches work as well as the guy who installed em
I bought a cheap 2 ton floor jack to carry in the car (at least in the winter) I hate those scissor things. I am remiss however at checking my spare and this talk reminds me to do so! Also I used to carry a 12v air pump and a plug kit which in the past saved my butt - it seems like I've become complacent. My father was a mechanic in the 40's thru the end of the 80's and he died in '92. Since then I've been pushing my luck as he always made sure I had the basics in my car. Thanks for this reminder to get on the stick again and be prepared.
This is spare tire 101, I check tire pressures monthly and during oil changes check my spare tire pressure!
On road trips I carry a tire repair kit, small air compressor and a can of tire seal.
That's called using the grey matter. How many times I have gone not knowing the tyre pressure, no repair kit or quick seal.
Something else you should suggest is periodically let the spare down and it doesn't hurt to find out about servicing the spare tire holder. Found a brand new spare in the road 1 day and it even still had part of the cable and holder where the cable had rotted away and let it fall off
I think the factory guy must’ve thought he was protecting the valve stem by that mounting decision.
Oh man. SMH
I feel for you.
I keep a full set if hand tools in each of my vehicles with plug kits. (I live in the country so)
This brings me to a semi new fad for Jeeps.
The "tire delete". I guess it's a city thing?
The spare tire stem- Great idea!
Thanks for all the vids!
Valve up/valve down . . . most people never give the spare tire pressure a second thought.
Old school I guess always check for Jack's etc
Great and useful tip about the stem facing down, thanks for making us aware, something as simple as that, we did not think about.
A trip to Harbor freight for a compact floor jack, a set of sockets for lug nuts and a breaker bar is cheap insurance! A short piece of pipe is good to have also.
Some cars don’t come with spare tire they have a compressor and a can of fixaflat.
And always grease the cable that holds the spare up.
Thanks for the video ill check my spare tonight
People often make fun of me because I'm anal about making sure the spare tire and tools are there and if someone doesn't have them and I was junking a car that did have the same as someone needed I've been known to grab them for that person. I always had my emergency kit with jumper cables and a few other emergency items as well. I can't even begin to tell you how many times it saved me, my family, or a neighbor, someone else in a parking lot or something. It's amazing how useful a basic emergency supplies kit can be.
I just want to thank you. Upon reading this I went out and dug out my spare. Sure enough 15lbs. In the tire. 😮
Might the thinking be to prevent something striking the valve stem and damaging it when it faces down.
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Most people cant change tire anyway. And the winch line on most of the spare tire carriers wont hardly have enough length to get to rim if its inside up instead of inside down.
When someone says they are going on a trip I check the spare for them.
I wonder if the valve is pointed up to prevent them from breaking off if you run over something.
You might to check the date code also, that spare looked like it was from 2010, and let people know how and where to find it and read it. I keep my vehicles rather than trade-in every 2-3 years, so the spare gets replaced after some time has lapsed. Even if they never get put on the ground, they do dry rot. Rubber is not forever
they don't dry rot as much as regular tires because they don't get hot or exposure to sunlight, but it can't hurt to check them.
Don't forget to lower and remove debris from the wheel when checking the tire and greese the cable. I had a cable on one that was completely rusted and had to break the cable to get the tire free. Had to replace the lift later. Greese would of been so much easier and cheaper.
Always good insite and advice!
Keep wrenching!
I also carry an old type sissor jack and a 3' pipe if the lugs are frozen . I like to retighten lugs any time the " wrong experts " touch them . Some mess up a simple tire change .
Kenny maybe check all cars you have access to and make tire kits for them
I bought a pickup truck. It has a spare wheel under the bed. Someday I will take a grinder to it so I can remove it.
My car has some kind of inflated, sealer stuff instead of a spare. I did pick up a large piece of steel in sidewall of tire about fifty feet of my driveway a couple years ago. Pulled into driveway and went completely flat in a few minutes. Had my floor Jack and cordless impact for removal, replaced tire
some car companies don't even give you a spare nowadays they just give you a can of fix a flat supposedly to save weight and get 1/ 100 of a mile per gallon more gas milage but you can pay them extra to get a spare at 4 times the real price.
I changed my donut with a full size rim setup. Yes, the spare should be so you can check air pressure
Some full size spares will not fit in there spot.
That's true. Mine is a little higher than the hole, yet worth it. @@peterwill3699
I have been there Kenny, it ain't no fun.
Here in Upstate New York, Tater and Sherry would get the "Good Samaritan" reward of a 12 pack of Saranac and a Tony's of Utica, New York pizza!
Mine's got a tire compressor as well as tire sealant
I have to get a replacement lug wrench. My spare tire is probably dry rotted it’s been at least six months since I needed to use it for an emergency last place I got my oil changed I got a flat tire about two blocks away. Which was either the construction site next door or something else when I left. I’m hoping that oil change wasn’t forgetting to check it out. Oil and lube $278 for my 7.3 f250, and they wanted me to return in 3,000 miles. I’m going back right after I find a less expensive place. I know everything has been going up but almost $300 for oil and lube?
And if you changed your rim, be sure that you still have lugnuts that match the spare tire for mounting…
Have you tried the screw in tire plugs?
I did that once had a blowout and found everything but the jack and the spare was almost flat..
Would a can of Fix-A-Flat have enough "OOOMPH" to air up a donut spare tire?
Hell at least the spare came down . And the lug nuts aren't all swollen up so the wrench doesn't fit
Good morning Mr Kenny hope y'all have a wonderful day, except for the flat of course. I'm still learning about my new launch, scanner it's much more than a code reader, I took your word and bought one it's just an amazing tool, that is if I can figure it out, I can't learn as fast as I use to 😮😅
Lots of guys on u tube to show you how to use the functions.
@@peterwill3699 it's a great new toy lol even showed me which wheel sensors are bad or not working,
I hate flat tires! Drive me crazy as they are always at the wrong time!
The cobblers children have no shoes. And, of course, trust but verify.
I had aluminum valve caps corrode on the valve stem and couldn't get them off.Salty brine of New England roads.
Spike strips are hollow tubes so if you hit one of those, you'd know it.
A spare mounted under the car may be alright where you live,but here,where they put large amounts of salt on the roads in winter,not so much.
Keep a cheap $10 Harbor Freight Air Compressor in trunk. Cheap and very slow but I have inflated a 15 inch truck tire when nothing else available.
Thanks for the video. I have what I need. It’s a AAA membership 😂
Good luck when they are busy.
they mount upside down so debris and mud water do not fill it up and rust out the rim especially for us in northern climates and dirt roads etc i know its inconvenient . most cars now do not even have a spare tire they have a fix a flat kit and a card for roadside . some US spec cars though still have the cavity for the spare or the provisions to add the tire carrier after the fact . im pretty confident that in your country due to insurance it will soon be illegal to attempt a tire change on rhe highway and to call a tow truck and spend 100s on a minor issue thats just how i feel about what the industry is doing to appease california regulations we saw it with our plastic junk engines with super super tight tollerances that eat themself we saw it with GM and Dodge V8 piston deactivation chewing up timing all to appease california regulations and really have not gained anything my 1993 voyager AWD got the exact same fuel mileage as my 2018 Journey AWD in real life and so on so forth maybe trucks you could make an argument because of the turbo charging baby V6s and huge 4Cyl but not really my 09 Ram got the same mileage as my 14 F150 . but in an attempt to reduce weight and juice mileage numbers on paper they removed spare tires and added plastic and removed cylinders have we benefited ? is it more environmentallly friendly to trash a whole car after 10 years instead of that car lasting 20 30 years does any if at all gas savings balance out that equation ? because im seeing a shittt load of 2010+ vehicles filling junk yards with no damage but seized engines and failed CVT transmissions are plentiful i do not remember seeing so many relatively new models in junk yards back in 2000s unless they were smashed or heavily abused . rant over . sorry . i just realllly hate hate hate how my vehicles in Canada are built to meet one states standards with no benefit to me only negatives and the environment will feel it all the extra shit cars being scrapped we will see the effects of these decisions in the short future lets not even discuss how we are trading spare tires and 2 more cylinders (same fuel economy) for added modules and miles of copper wire which add weight as well just look at a Limited vs XLT cargo capacity sticker all that extra junk adds weight and complexity but nothing to the reliability or drivability of a vehicle . sorry sorry rant is over haha.
my BIL was mad. Got a flat. Couldn't find the spare. (it was an Infiniti fx35 with yuge oversize rims, he didn't know it had a space-saver spare in the trunk with a Subwoofer nested inside it)
Also, he isn;t much of a reader, so that Bible-Sized Book Infinti packages in every ride was useless.
I saw the Infiniti work order on the bench in his garage later. (Customer can't find spare) lol.
Hilarious.
Puncture wound?
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I’m glad I’m not the only one thinking of logic when it comes to mechanics fixing engineering failures… thank you for complaining about the valve stem face up on the spares lol if they even give you a real spare that is lol
If that was a rust belt car you wouldn’t get the spare down
how do I know how much PSI has to go in the reserve tire. I have one, but you only allowd to drive 80 KM/H with it.
Hi the psi is usually marked on the centre of the wheel rim ,along whith maximum speed of 50mph, at least here in the UK. My space saver wheel also has the max psi on the sidewall of the tyre. You could Google for information, or visit your local tyre shop and they should be able to help you, hope this helps. Stuart Uk.
Check the sticker inside your driver's door jamb
Oh S-chitt,now what! Argh! 😢 Mr. When it rains it's pours! And words of wisdom to your daughter! Did you get the brake hose? On the road with Kenny!
I carry a plug kit in my car
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I carry a small car 12V Air Pump in the trunk for Emergencies for what it's worth...
i have never seen a car with the tire in trunk or underneath where they put it in with valve stem where you can get at it some of them the bracket only fits wheel with valve stem inaccessible is this a conspiracy by car manufacturers to get you to take car to dealer or what?