Ranking the BEST and WORST Abilities in Valorant

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  • @eggwick
    @eggwick  2 года назад +837

    Yo, heads up. This is just my opinion. It's really hard to rank abilities individually because an agent's overall kit is what's important. Don't take this too seriously pls KEKW
    www.twitch.tv/eggwick

    • @riccardocontesso5044
      @riccardocontesso5044 2 года назад +26

      as cypher main, I've only a thing to say: this video has my thumb up, but it's an angry thumb up

    • @vizdrom
      @vizdrom 2 года назад +7

      Sage's kit is NOT good value. The slow orb is 200 creds each for being very useless and the sage wall is 400 just to be prefired at the start of the round. Even if you win pistol round you need to save for the next 1 to 3 rounds depending on wins. Also Sova ult should be 7 ult points.

    • @zhizhao7915
      @zhizhao7915 2 года назад +3

      @@vizdrom i think if her heal got nerfed that much, they should at least make her a better sentinel

    • @newtonthenewt1400
      @newtonthenewt1400 2 года назад +4

      @@vizdrom Sage's whole point is to stall pushes. That's why she's a sentinel. The slow orb is actually VERY strong for this, especially when combined with a molly. Same thing with the wall. If you hear a bunch of guns spraying the wall, then that's fantastic info that there are a lot of enemies in the area with the wall.
      Not to mention how the wall is extremely good for planting spike and covering post-plant. Take A site on Split, for instance. You can throw a wall into Elbow and completely shut it down unless your enemies want to break through 4 entire wall segments.
      Plus you can boost up to crazy off-angles with the sage wall (one common one being boosting up to the windows in B main on Ascent).

    • @bryanjoshuacalabio3742
      @bryanjoshuacalabio3742 2 года назад

      as a cypher main, i think his cages are great value. and I'm radiant

  • @anoteblock
    @anoteblock 2 года назад +5408

    The best ability is chamber’s credit card because it gives free gun skins lol

  • @jayadityaboyat8720
    @jayadityaboyat8720 2 года назад +1348

    the amount of abilities present in "good" just tells how balanced the agents turn out in the end

    • @whyalwaysvyz6636
      @whyalwaysvyz6636 2 года назад +68

      And also a lot of their Signature Ability in Goated too

    • @rycegabrielmajor9847
      @rycegabrielmajor9847 2 года назад +55

      and then phoenix with the only skill he has in great value is his ult 🙃

    • @alexsun3214
      @alexsun3214 2 года назад +11

      @@rycegabrielmajor9847 phoenix doesn't feel like a duelist until u pop his ult,.

    • @Shon_-
      @Shon_- 2 года назад +6

      @@rycegabrielmajor9847 replace his molly with smokes and u got a unique controller

    • @hahahi3061
      @hahahi3061 2 года назад +6

      @@Shon_- hell nah

  • @RelicOnYoutube
    @RelicOnYoutube 2 года назад +517

    Heres a fun fact, Omen’s Paranoia (Q, Blind) can adjust speeds depending on your movement. If you stand still it goes a normal pace speed. If you are running forward it goes way faster. If you walk backwards- it goes way slower

  • @loadinggames8142
    @loadinggames8142 2 года назад +746

    If you assigned each category with a value
    5-GOATED
    4-Great Value
    3-"Good"
    2-Decent
    1-Garbo
    0-Omen Ult
    and took the average of each agents abilities you would get this
    Chamber: 4
    Killjoy: 4
    Sova: 4
    Breach: 3.75
    Raze: 3.75
    Sage: 3.75
    Jett: 3.5
    KAY/O: 3.5
    Neon: 3.5
    Skye: 3.5
    Yoru: 3.5
    Reyna: 3.25
    Viper: 3.25
    Astra: 3
    Brimstone: 3
    Cypher: 2.5
    Omen: 2.25
    Phoenix: 2.25
    Theres a mean of 3.18 and a median of 3.5. In my opinion the agents are pretty balanced
    Edit: Look, this is just the stats based on Eggwicks opionion. Tthey don't really mean anything and I just wanted to do this for fun

    • @ychef
      @ychef 2 года назад +34

      Quick maths 😎

    • @jraphg9254
      @jraphg9254 2 года назад

      liek this comment

    • @chinmaychhabra9258
      @chinmaychhabra9258 2 года назад +8

      Sage is underrated if u practice it for a moth or 2 ur insane after thatwith the walls and the rev

    • @akiyukishinbo7553
      @akiyukishinbo7553 2 года назад +17

      pretty sure that’s just cause everything balances out to a mean. if you have 50 abilities in goated and 50 in garbage that is NOT balanced but the mean would still be 2.5

    • @lopgaming7900
      @lopgaming7900 2 года назад +14

      Bro your actually goated dude

  • @TimisToxic
    @TimisToxic 2 года назад +230

    As a cypher main/breach main, His trip is great for countering neon and jett and even if they shoot it you still get info.

    • @rrrrre2905
      @rrrrre2905 2 года назад +7

      Teamates shoot trap when triggered or raze breaks trips or sova drone, skye dog etc. Chamber slow isolates jett dashing through cutting off support from the team

    • @TimisToxic
      @TimisToxic 2 года назад +4

      @@rrrrre2905 Yeah I think chambers slow is maybe a little bit better but Cyphers trips are better than KJ's because he has 2 while she has 1 alarmbot.

    • @GulayBeans
      @GulayBeans 2 года назад

      @@rrrrre2905 if you place the trips at waist level or a little bit higher, trips wont be triggered. Free flankguard for attackers like ascent on B, even if they shoot it, great info for 200g at post-plant situations

    • @rrrrre2905
      @rrrrre2905 2 года назад

      @@GulayBeans same thing with chamber trips on flank

    • @orangemoon286
      @orangemoon286 7 месяцев назад

      Yes but if you want to watch a flank and get into at the same time
      Play sova

  • @bluebaum2.7.16
    @bluebaum2.7.16 2 года назад +486

    Cypher's Trip and Cam are in a Good spot I think, the Ult deserves one Tier more imo it's fine though, but the Cage is mussplaced it's one of the fastest Smokes in the Game, by far the best to create one-ways with and obviously has the sound when someone walks in, it's also very versatile.

    • @bradk8590
      @bradk8590 2 года назад +34

      the cage give Cypher some entry ability which other sentinels don't have besides Sage wall, which more expensive and worse for that function in most places

    • @Nana_UFC
      @Nana_UFC 2 года назад +40

      I'm a Cypher main but I think he's by far the worst sentinel atm.

    • @thedefault8109
      @thedefault8109 2 года назад +21

      He's not unplayable, he just the worst sentinel ,which kinda makes the sentinel class the best if cypher is the worst agent.

    • @timewalker2447
      @timewalker2447 2 года назад +1

      Lol chamber be like why do you need cypher traps 😂

    • @Chang_Shi
      @Chang_Shi 2 года назад +3

      Wouldn't omen's smokes be better to create one ways with since you don't even need lineups?

  • @elamrani1449
    @elamrani1449 2 года назад +364

    i think i disagree on viper needing lineups to be played well. i think if you want to push to her fullest potential then yes lineups are great but she is still good even without lineups. its easy to aim the snakebite and the smoke can be used well still

    • @aviralpandey3843
      @aviralpandey3843 2 года назад +24

      Yea lineups are not needed like you can remember them but don't rely on them too much imo all the lineups just stop u from playing an agent on it's full potential (like u said)

    • @brandonjames6805
      @brandonjames6805 2 года назад +10

      imo it’s like saying u need brim lineups to be good with it lmao . and no one does . viper just got a rep for lineups and iron players who don’t know what a flank is think it’s impossible to stop 😂. most of the time stupid low elo vipers just plant the bomb and run immediately to do lineups and let their whole team die on site and then get ran down bc so much time left 😂

    • @bishhsasspusi2904
      @bishhsasspusi2904 2 года назад +3

      There is this one viper main, where in post-plant he just do lineups where he throws snakebites almost everywhere from anywhere on the map. Its insane.

    • @toobyy4554
      @toobyy4554 2 года назад

      lineups? just need to know the audible circle on minimap is exactly the distance a snakebite travels when shooting to the sky while pressing w... easy

    • @lxncexzs
      @lxncexzs Год назад

      i used to be a viper main and i can definitely say that u dont need it. She’s strong in post plants because of lineups but people forgets that it’s not even her strongest aspect

  • @pishbeen0492
    @pishbeen0492 2 года назад +44

    23:14 the Phoenix wall actually heals the same as the hot hands, the wall just heals slower since it lasts longer (both heal for 50 total hp)

  • @jesther2575
    @jesther2575 2 года назад +66

    I think brim stim should be a tier higher, if your thinking about the things they added you'd just think that "oh a movespeed buff isn't all that much". However, it can buff the whole team, meaning faster pushes, rotates, and retakes.

    • @tutorialeshtmlprod
      @tutorialeshtmlprod 2 года назад +2

      and it can also be stacked with other agents buffs (KAY/O's ult, Reyna's ult, Neon's High Gear), the stim is busted

    • @fettah7908
      @fettah7908 2 года назад

      Efra Caso is kay o in his ult faster?

    • @tutorialeshtmlprod
      @tutorialeshtmlprod 2 года назад

      @@fettah7908 his fire rate increases but not his movement speed, same as Reyna's ult.

  • @Mr.Bazamo
    @Mr.Bazamo 2 года назад +194

    Cypher's ult should put a tracking dart on the enemies the ult pings.

    • @dabreadman9677
      @dabreadman9677 2 года назад +22

      Honestly, I was thinking that too but it'd be pretty broken. Pressuring the enemies so much

    • @Mr.Bazamo
      @Mr.Bazamo 2 года назад +9

      @@dabreadman9677 Idk, I think it might be worth a shot seeing as it would still require you to get a kill.

    • @vergil5108
      @vergil5108 2 года назад +7

      @@dabreadman9677 honestly a tracking dart can work too, and just for the same as his dart when he hits you with his camera, you can remove the tracking dart so its not overpowered.

    • @shivanngpuri
      @shivanngpuri 2 года назад +8

      Not a dart that pings like forever, but 3 pings would be enough like the sova drone's dart. Honestly, increasing the number of pings isn't a good idea either because if there are like 4 enemies alive, it would be so overwhelming to keep track of them.
      maybe the ult needs a complete rework?

    • @Mr.Bazamo
      @Mr.Bazamo 2 года назад +11

      @@shivanngpuri I think Cypher's ult is one of the biggest "Information Network" abilities that makes info agents like him so fun. I think the regular tracking dart that his camera shoots can work, as the enemies can just remove it. It may be too much pressure if an enemy is being attacked, but with all the counters to Cypher's util (Like Raze, cause like all of her abilities break Cypher's util) it feels like a needed buff.

  • @justarandomgamer6058
    @justarandomgamer6058 2 года назад +74

    Cypher cage is a little underrated here.
    It's smoke is on activation so you can set it up beforehand for instant use.
    It makes a sound when enemies pass through it.
    It extends below just as far as above allowing for some creative entries.
    It creates quite a number of good one-ways.
    It's very versatile when used for entry or to block of sightlines.
    It's one of the fastest smokes in the game.
    &
    It's activatable with your cam.
    (oh and it just works really well with the trips)

    • @cauvangquaygame8524
      @cauvangquaygame8524 2 года назад +4

      The moment someone step on a trip, cage come out, it's over for them.

    • @justarandomgamer6058
      @justarandomgamer6058 2 года назад +2

      @@cauvangquaygame8524 with proper trip placement it can easily turn rounds consistently into a 5v4's

    • @justarandomgamer6058
      @justarandomgamer6058 2 года назад

      @Cracker how well utility is able to play off of or enable other utility directly affects how good it is.

    • @alexsun3214
      @alexsun3214 2 года назад

      @@justarandomgamer6058 he kind said it was just the abilities themselves, not the agents whole kit.

  • @Wikingking
    @Wikingking 2 года назад +13

    The sheer fact that with Omen ult you can rotate to a vacant site and can retrieve a lost spike and plant makes it automatically better than Cypher's ult. It's a decent skill, very situational and difficult to use it with a huge success, but it's not useless.

  • @slopytopy3433
    @slopytopy3433 2 года назад +190

    As a mainly Omen main and secondly Cypher main, it stabs a pain in my chest to see their ults in the trash
    Edit: Although I do agree their ults are dump lol

    • @CTGAMIN
      @CTGAMIN 2 года назад +104

      cypher's ult makes him bald which is like a mental flashbang for me

    • @keedritsj5468
      @keedritsj5468 2 года назад +6

      @@CTGAMIN 💀💀

    • @slopytopy3433
      @slopytopy3433 2 года назад +1

      Lmao

    • @slopytopy3433
      @slopytopy3433 2 года назад +10

      @@CTGAMIN Who knows though if theres hair under the suit covering his head

    • @dabreadman9677
      @dabreadman9677 2 года назад +1

      @@slopytopy3433 plot twist he's a robot

  • @luquiten
    @luquiten 2 года назад +110

    I love how he puts an extra level just for omen ult

  • @err0rWasTaken
    @err0rWasTaken 2 года назад +17

    me: i wonder what the first garbo with me
    eggwick: cypher ult
    😭👍

  • @kompetenzmitz2818
    @kompetenzmitz2818 2 года назад +16

    You need too realise there are people out there who are literally saying that Cyphers Ult is one of the better ones and this hurts me as a Cypher main. Riot please buff cypher

  • @Imcirrius
    @Imcirrius 2 года назад +15

    As a raze main, I completely agree with the placement of satchels, because a first time Raz, without seeing how other rpoeple use it would even touch it, but it's value for someone with experience it's amazing

    • @ryomen7713
      @ryomen7713 2 года назад

      even if you do know how to use it most people are afraid to do it

  • @Sugarist0
    @Sugarist0 2 года назад +19

    I like how u said “how often would ur teammates be tagged and not dead” for Skye heal but not for sage heal, imo skye’s heal is better bc even if u r stuck in an animation, u heal faster and u don’t have to wait like 40 seconds for another heal

  • @H3R0_
    @H3R0_ 2 года назад +2

    Im loving the tier lists on this channel. Have a good day eggwick

  • @n1ce608
    @n1ce608 2 года назад +20

    For me, kay/o ult is goated, literally free entry when attacking. Seeing ascend use kay/o, ult made his ult very useful even in pro play.

    • @Piccolospm
      @Piccolospm 2 года назад

      EXACTLY, yeah people can see you, but if they are smart they probably won’t peak without until against an overcharged enemy, AND your teammates are most likely with you. Easy goated tier

    • @anuragrai7344
      @anuragrai7344 2 года назад +1

      Sova is No.1 agent in ascent

    • @xxanonymus33xx3
      @xxanonymus33xx3 2 года назад

      Nah, I was a kay/o main and i pushed hell lot of times ulted and told my team and they I would push get one tapped and my team still cowering behind

  • @pandathug6806
    @pandathug6806 2 года назад +14

    As a viper main, id say her smoke orb has great value at least. Defensively, its the most powerful smoke since u lose health and its not hollow. You can make one ways not possible with other smokers. On attack, you can throw aggresive smokes to clear areas and move it very easily. You can move very dynamically with it and can pop it faster than any other smoker. I would rather have poison orb than any other ability of hers.

    • @ollierobinson2956
      @ollierobinson2956 2 года назад

      Even above wall? Wall is gamechanging in split breeze and icebox it covers so many angles

    • @pandathug6806
      @pandathug6806 2 года назад

      @@ollierobinson2956 theyre both great value. Wall is of course essential in some maps, but that’s mostly dependent on map design. In a vacuum, the fact that you cant move it and have to wait 8 seconds makes it less valuable than the orb imo. Btw picking up the orb resets the timer

  • @alexsp4853
    @alexsp4853 2 года назад +7

    eventhough i dont like the fact that almost all of my main agent's abilities are ranked further down than i'd like to see them, i do agree with this tear list because viewed on the overall scheme i presume that eggwick represented an exprecienced neutral position in which he took as much factors into consideration as possible and still make a fair judgement

  • @Kmn483
    @Kmn483 2 года назад +34

    As a Cypher main back during the beta and eventually having to drop him.. it pains me how neglected he is and how little he offers compared to the other sentinels. Killjoy's release especially just tore him apart.

  • @ajjqwert
    @ajjqwert 2 года назад +55

    do a best agent tier list on every map so it will be a longer vid / VOD

  • @xure438
    @xure438 2 года назад +16

    I have some cypher rework ideas.
    Tripwire - make it so you have to be really close to see it and make it more quieter and the stun u can get stun faster or always get stun after you destroyed it.
    Cage - make it last longer slows enemy for a tiny bit
    Camera - make it half invisible until it shots the dart or make the dart like sova drone dart where it pings them 2 times and its gone.
    Ult- kinda like sova's dart it reveals them but only once so you know where they are going and it also shows their gun, health and abilities cooldown or what abilities they have.
    Its a bit much but if atleast he could compete with other sentinels also since yoru got a story how he got a rework cypher rework story should be that fade helps him make his utility stronger since fade is a hacker because she hack valorant protocol. Thats all i got to say byee~

    • @alexsun3214
      @alexsun3214 2 года назад +4

      that kinda much, if tripwire always stuns after destroyed it would be op, like almost a free kill if they go through an entrance, and cage(smoke with slow) is op, and ult displaying that much info would be hard to put on screen.

    • @staticspectre2255
      @staticspectre2255 Год назад

      Bro chill it’s based on opinion

  • @gerhana7149
    @gerhana7149 2 года назад +17

    The good tier should've been "conditional" tier

  • @irenanovakova1980
    @irenanovakova1980 Год назад +11

    Timestamps:
    0:50 Astra
    3:40 Breach
    5:20 Brim
    8:03 Chamber
    10:25 Cypher
    13:12 Jett
    15:08 Kay/o
    17:16 Killjoy
    19:11 Neon
    21:19 Omen
    23:02 Phoenix
    23:47 Raze
    25:47 Reyna
    27:45 Sage
    28:56 Skye
    30:26 Sova
    31:58 Viper
    34:06 Yoru

    • @RRG0906
      @RRG0906 Год назад

      Was fade not out when this video was made???

  • @tecategpt1959
    @tecategpt1959 2 года назад +14

    17:12 I disagree, watch the match between XSET and 100T on breeze, Kay-O ult literally won them the match, cancels out all the other ults, OP against Sova, Raze, as they have limited time ults and is ridiculously annoying. Its pretty goated if you ask me

    • @Biggod69
      @Biggod69 2 года назад

      Fr this guy is tweakin it cancels chamber awp and Jett knives like his ult is goated fs

    • @trixter9318
      @trixter9318 2 года назад +1

      as a kay/o main, i still agree with this video... yes its actually VERY OP, BUT... it was mentioned in this video "it give the enemies info where you are" and thats enough to drag it to "good value" side since its like the most important thing in this game.. "info"

    • @Biggod69
      @Biggod69 2 года назад +1

      @@trixter9318 but when u just explode with ur team and insta ult its really hard to stop it at that point and them knowing where im at is irrelevant. I couldnt find almost any reason to 1v1 ult tbh. Tell me if im wrong genuinely. Rn im imm1/2 and kayo explosion out of anywhere is rough to even get close to stopping

  • @celty228
    @celty228 Год назад +10

    I’ve always loved Cypher. I can’t use exotic abilities for the life of me nor can I rely on teammates for callouts and info, so I rely on the pure information gathering ability that is Cypher’s cams, ult, and trips since my aim is pretty good for my rank.

    • @borond
      @borond Год назад +2

      EXACTLY, this comment here sums up my stance perfectly. the only complaint i have is that his ult could last a little longer, meaning we get like 3 "updates" at least on the map, like sova's ability

    • @salmanazam9444
      @salmanazam9444 Год назад

      Feel the same way about him. Cypher kind of allows you to play freely. You can contribute to your team without having to constantly be with them in battle. You get to annoy and intimidate enemies. It helps very much if you are not especially good at gunplay.
      Like the other commenter pointed out, his ult is too weak. The idea of it is VERY COOL, but it doesn't even track them as long as a broken tripwire does.

  • @MerkFreeks
    @MerkFreeks 2 года назад +1

    I can't help but agree with the current state of the Omen TP, as a main myself I gotta say the new update is great for the speed but the targeting went down the shitter in the process and I've screwed up teleports way more than I did before. I really hope they fix the tracking with the TP soon.

  • @hanno-7927
    @hanno-7927 Год назад

    Your videos are so nice I love to watch them

  • @Cdlove98
    @Cdlove98 2 года назад +3

    I agree with raze's paintshells being goated I've gotten a 4k with one paintshell multiple times

  • @_kaabi_7725
    @_kaabi_7725 2 года назад +4

    3:24 Without a star, I cannot

  • @reymlx8048
    @reymlx8048 2 года назад +2

    The k/o ults it's kinda OP tho you can give info and pressure to the enemies + buff on yourself firing speed, getting revive by team...

  • @pyxisdiv84
    @pyxisdiv84 2 года назад +2

    I love how the only times I used omen's ult I got 4k's off the back of it. And that was before they made it quieter

  • @James-sm7kn
    @James-sm7kn 2 года назад +6

    Before I start I realize this is a heavily opinionated tierlist and my opinions are also heavily biased, I have no hate towards eggwick but I just have a lot of different opinions. Instead of reading this whole thing you could just read parts of it and if you disagree or agree but for another reason say it in the reply's would love to see if there is something I missed.
    8:00 it is not better than a cypher trip, it needs vision to trigger so unless you have both set up in the same spot a omen a jett a viper a cypher and a few others can avoid it while flanking MAYBE making a little bit of noise to the other team. Cypher trips are way better.
    9:40 chamber tp is not goated unless they are a chamber main everyone plat and under do not know how to use this ability properly, I would give it great value but that is only because it is a almost guaranteed get out of jail free card.
    10:30 I can see cypher trips tying with chamber trips but not below by any means. Cypher trips stay active as long as you are alive and there are very few abilities that allow you to get past them without destroying the trip (most of them fairly loud i.e jett updraft chamber tp omen tp and a few others but while the cypher trip might not actually slow them down it gives you better info and when it does tag them you can usually get a fairly free kill with it while both chamber and kj trips don't ping the target. He is the 2nd best info character for a reason. (arguably the best but for the sake of all the people who are wrong/how much easier it is to play off of sova info I will say he is second best.)
    13:05 ok clearly eggwick and a lot of his community don't realize how good cypher ult is. Arguably one of the best ults in higher levels of play and if it is used on the first kill you get it can catch people fast rotating 4 stacking allowing someone to fast flank, it makes it so your teammates have way less corners to clear, it can sometimes give you a free kill if someone is hiding in a corner. It deserves at least good. (I don't even main cypher anymore but his utility as a whole is solid easy to play off of and arguably one of the best sentinel's to solo queue as, Chamber is reliant on his skills kj is reliant on her gun skills/teammates getting onto site and sage is decently reliant still on her teammates to get onto site. Cypher has smokes he has flank hold, he is solid on both offense and defense, his ult makes sure that your teammates make fewer mistakes. I will not say he is the best agent in the game but he is really solid.
    18:10 . Really? goated? Like sure it can be good but a lot of people don't know how to play off of it and it can be placed incorrectly.
    10:50 forgot about breach aftershock again the easiest counter to kj ult in the game. I will say though it is probably great value. 20:30 It is trash higher elos pretty bad mid tier elos and great value in lower tier elos so in conclusion. It's garbage.
    22:29 it always recharged it just does it slightly faster. Honestly would say great value though.
    25:30 Ok eggwick confirmed it for me, this is a VERY biased tier list, yes raze grenade is good but once again it can be used incorrectly by a lot of people, While there are situations in which it is good finding those situations and actually USING the grenade is fairly rare for anything below diamond. Would give it great value at best good at least.
    25:48 I would say reyna flash is good, there is counterplay to a reyna flash and it is rare that you see a reyna flash up high or down low in a lot of the lower elo's.
    29:40 hot take, Skye's flash is goated in top 2% skye's flashe is great value in top 7% skye's flash is good in everywhere else. I would honestly just give it great value at best. I have only seen around 4 goated skye players since all of her buffs and nerfs.
    30:05 Unless I am mistaken skye ult costs at least 1 more than cypher's ult but besides that they both have their ups and downs it doesn't actually get you immediate information unlike cypher's ult so it is a lot more situational, but you don't need a corpse for it, cypher pings all 4 while skye's only grabs 3, You can't misplay a cypher ult you can misplay a skye ult. I would put this at good/great value with cypher's ult.
    30:40 The problem with comparing the recon bolt to the drone is that it is more of a 1 2 deal rather than a 1 or the other, sova's drone can be traded off of more easily it survives a few more hits, and it tag's someone for longer. It is slower to get all of the info it will get, it costs 400, it effectively covers less area and for the sova dart you don't NEED lineups, for example A site on icebox has a pretty easy sova dart that requires no prior experience. Not to mention with lineups it is just that much better. I think I would place both in great value but sova recon is better because it recharges and it is free.
    31:10 while I will probably still agree with shock darts being good even without lineups they can still be used to clear corners/angels, definitely more of a good/great value rather than a good/decent for me.
    32:00 I'll give my opions even if I agree with him since I am a viper main, First off I think the mollies are still good, I wish they had a damage increase at the very least that way they can be used to clear corners better, really frustrated with viper being a niche pick at best now. Heck with the brim/omen buffs I think if they had just touched viper's molley or just her smokes she would be in a fine position but for any 1 tricks this nerf is fairly brutal. Also can I just say that he uses lineups to boost the position of viper molley's but not sova shockdarts/recon??? what is up with that. Anyone but a viper main will know at most 1 molley per map and same with sova. Their shouldn't be a difference when they get compared.
    32:35 Honestly I would say this still gets great value. While it is true you can't use it with the wall for a long period of time it still does it's job. It enables viper lineups to actually be good, you can still swoop peak, you can still do most of the lurking orb spots, it is good for holding choke points on defense. Overall great value ability.
    33:00 I would actually put the viper wall at good. Sure it is necessary for a map like breeze and it helps with lurking/site takes but because of the nerf it lost a good chunk of it's value, especially on maps that viper doesn't do well on (i.e haven ascent split and bind, ) Though I am partial to a viper on bind/ascent/split but you really need a second controller/sage to really make full use of her utility which you don't always get. The wall for the most part requires team coordination which never happens in lower ranks and rarely happens in the mid and even higher ranks. Still fantastic for her kit I just wish they made the wall like a little bit thicker.
    33:30 I would hesitantly put this in goated at least put it in great value. It very rarely works against the viper especially if they play it correctly, and there are viper ult lineups to boot and you usually only need to know 1 maybe 2 per map (more is just a bonus) Fairly hard to retake against a viper ult and that is when you already have a man advantage. I don't think there is a single ult that is better at clutching a attacker sided round, and on defense it is solid. (not to mention one of the few ults with only 2 to 3 counter plays at most levels.)
    34:05 I would actually put this at good just because it creates bad habits, it is reliant on a few other parts of his kit, you can fail to trade off of it. In the right hands it is goated but there are VERY few people who have stuck around with yoru long enough to be already goated with his abilities.
    34:22 Honestly it depends on the map, on a map like icebox it gives great value, and a few other maps that it is good on but I'll leave it at good.
    34:35 thing to keep in mind that the second tp costs 200 but I will keep it at great value because it is just a solid ability and arguably the 2 kills for the recharge might've actually been a buff instead of a nerf.
    34:45 As much as I hate to admit it I think yoru ult is goated, there are a lot of outplay moments, it is free info, being able to use his abilities inside the ult turns him into the best initiator. Just such a good ability. And it is rare for it to be misplayed since even if all you use it for is to get behind the enemy a lot of the time you can still get at least 1 to 2 kills with it.
    That's it for my changes, there might've been a few things that I disagreed with but didn't comment on but the majority of the other abilities that I didn't comment on I more or less agreed with eggwick on.

    • @iambatman786
      @iambatman786 2 года назад +1

      bro typed a paragraph for nobody to fucking care

    • @James-sm7kn
      @James-sm7kn 2 года назад

      @@iambatman786 imagine typing a reply comment that nobody fucking cares about LMAO.

    • @genn8062
      @genn8062 2 года назад

      @@iambatman786 It doesnt matter if no one cares he just felt like typing it, its a comment section 💀

    • @genn8062
      @genn8062 2 года назад

      I feel like Chambers trip is better than Cyphers imo, For example during the OpTic v Sen match OpTic used the chamber trip as a secondary player to hold chokes instead of having 1 player hookah on Bind they have 3 and let Chamber’s trip hold the choke, or for example they had a viper ult in showers 1 trip holding A short and the 2nd trip holding Lamps. They predicted a B play but Yay had a tp A and 1 B for a quick rotate, Yay tped and then rotated back to ct and Sentinels got Lamps control but OpTic already rotated and had 1 player flanking so they could contain Sentinels into this small area and spam util and pick them off. This wouldn’t have happened on Cypher because he is almost forced to play with his trips and Cyphers trips don’t have slow unlike Chambers. Chambers trips just allow for a bit more diverse play overall imo. But this is pro play and OpTic probably prepared with this strategy in mind.

    • @James-sm7kn
      @James-sm7kn 2 года назад

      @@genn8062 Not to mention even if we are talking at pro play level this whole play required other utility for it to be good (i.e the chamber tp) But I do see what you are trying to get at.

  • @gingeral253
    @gingeral253 2 года назад +3

    Brim stim is very good since it is 100 cred each and they have so many benefits.

  • @uk1yo
    @uk1yo 2 года назад

    Really really good video👍

  • @solo5miily674
    @solo5miily674 2 года назад +1

    this is a really good list every situation is consider, nc

  • @Tatertwat05
    @Tatertwat05 2 года назад +13

    watching this video made me realize that they hit viper harder than astra with the nerfs

    • @rachel8216
      @rachel8216 2 года назад +6

      idk how she was working in really high elo, but i didnt think she was that over powered :(

  • @arundhatis6042
    @arundhatis6042 2 года назад +18

    When it comes to low elo players (like me), a Yoru Clone can sometimes fool players as they may think that the Yoru has a bad device and is suffering from keyboard delay and hence, he can't help running towards us. (As a person who suffered from horrific keyboard delay earlier before fixing it, this is relatable in a different way) 😂🤣

    • @xmmatzexm4496
      @xmmatzexm4496 2 года назад +1

      Yorus clone is still op in high elos like one time i ran like the clone, they didnt shoot me and i had an ez ace

  • @kawaiikillerxd5620
    @kawaiikillerxd5620 5 месяцев назад

    thanks for the video, it helped me sleep :>

  • @Toast408
    @Toast408 Год назад

    Love how the preview for kay/o flash he tried to turn and failed 😂

  • @DualityofLife
    @DualityofLife 2 года назад +21

    as, idk I think it was tarik, said, I actually think stim beacon was pretty underrated, of course, it was not a good ability by any means, but with a phantom in your hand in a close range fight, you just throw your stim and you get a huge firing speed advantage, making it way easier to both spray and to get headshots before your enemy gets them. It is just a nice buff that you can use in duels, now its extremly in my opinion somewhere between good and great value, since it buffs your team by so much. The speed is insane and so nice to play with as a team.

    • @pedrorezende4873
      @pedrorezende4873 2 года назад +2

      people that like to use vandal and go for burst fire (two bullets max) tend to not like the fire rate buff as it messes up the timing of shooting and recoil reset, making it harder to shoot at mid and long distances. The buff makes you spray more and with the vandal is just not very reliable on most cases.

    • @DualityofLife
      @DualityofLife 2 года назад

      @@pedrorezende4873 yeah but then just ads on long range and tap not spray. Also, it allows for better burst since yeah, it messes up timings, but just learn to control it. As a person who used to play reyna very often if I had to fill duelist, and like going vandal on reyna, in the ult the stim beacon buff makes bursting not that much harder, and if I go and take long range fights, I ads and go for onetaps. But whatever, if you dont like the brim stim buff, then just go play guardian, it has a similar playstyle to the vandal with no ability to spray, but with a better ads.

  • @Hamun002
    @Hamun002 2 года назад +10

    The great thing about Brim's Ult, probably the only real redeeming quality of Brimstone as a Controller, is that it is the best area denial in the game. No one can just stand there and take it.

  • @viciousrr8686
    @viciousrr8686 Год назад

    Honestly cypher trip is really good as it can’t be smoked off however the chamber trip can be smoked off

  • @overtale4516
    @overtale4516 Год назад +1

    On the topic of mollies, for an average player they may see it as a decent ability like stopping pushes or pushing out someone from an angle.
    But for veteran players, especially ones that know lineups, it's a great post plant tool. That's why it's goat

  • @johannkylecastro3847
    @johannkylecastro3847 8 месяцев назад +3

    who here is watching this 1 year ago and seeing the nerfssss

  • @Whitebear373
    @Whitebear373 2 года назад +3

    You know what would be an awesome mini game?
    A game where players can mix and match a characters ability like :
    Reyna
    E = Jett dash
    Q = omen tp
    Ult = LETS GOOOOO
    what do you guys think?

    • @trixter9318
      @trixter9318 2 года назад

      u mean ability draft? lol

  • @aqeelbighero
    @aqeelbighero Год назад

    as a omen main i agree with the ult tier its just the shadow step but just u could telepotr anywhere

  • @smaug5256
    @smaug5256 2 года назад

    the amount of foreshadowing on jetts dash oml

  • @yuvalamir3226
    @yuvalamir3226 2 года назад +5

    At high level play Chamber is the best character right now by far.
    The best trap, pretty much instant rotations combined with a reusable Jett dash, an 800 creds guardian, and the best gun in the game.
    He can just do so much and almost everything he does he is the best at.

    • @mryellow6918
      @mryellow6918 2 года назад

      Gets a free basically semi auto awp every 3 rounds.

    • @trixter9318
      @trixter9318 2 года назад +1

      and then comes the true power of chamber main... they r gon be always "rich"

    • @maffystrode3275
      @maffystrode3275 2 года назад

      tbh I always thought of chambers Q as a sherrif but comparing it to a guardian is perfect

  • @z3p.hyr_
    @z3p.hyr_ 2 года назад +3

    Astra wall (imo) is a double edged sword

  • @nerve9272
    @nerve9272 2 года назад +1

    As an initiator/duelist main Kayo ult gives you a free site, or a super easy retake because you convert

  • @demon05s67
    @demon05s67 Год назад

    I was once met a brimstone main and he had these insane molly lineups. it was sick🤯

  • @wrydfell3932
    @wrydfell3932 2 года назад +4

    You can stim beacon speed boost the roomba. Edit, as a breach main, reyna flash is way better than breach flash

    • @trixter9318
      @trixter9318 2 года назад +1

      the user of breach would find it harder to use than reyna flash, but as the enemies... i assure you, I HATE BREACH SO FUCKING MUCH.... give me 10 reyna, but pls no breach, his flash is the worst, cant be destroyed, its fast, and much more unpredictable

  • @dannyman5751
    @dannyman5751 2 года назад +8

    People underestimate the speed boost because it boosts confidence, and paired with the faster guns, it can secure pushes

  • @YomaMilkTea
    @YomaMilkTea 8 месяцев назад

    Cypher trip will get better after iso comes out, reducing that cool down and keeping it up.

  • @AnoAnxi
    @AnoAnxi 2 года назад +1

    I Like your long Videos im in A Hospital and cant move A lot so A 30 min vid is the Best Thing to relax (after sleeping but i cant sleep more than 18h XD)
    THX for your great Videos it made my day A bit better

  • @littlegoblinjunior1034
    @littlegoblinjunior1034 Год назад +3

    Cypher's ult needs to be buffed so that when used, it lets you see the location of your enemies for the rest of the round

  • @kennythemasseuse
    @kennythemasseuse 2 года назад +3

    Jett knives should have been good because its very hard to aim while moving + not just horizontally but you gotta flick diagonally since you are in the air and it takes 3 knives to kill someone in full armor unless you tap the head. Its not really great value since most jett mains sacrifice getting 100 damage on the enemy and then dying

    • @mistogun6668
      @mistogun6668 2 года назад

      Great value bc it’s a great eco ult

    • @mryellow6918
      @mryellow6918 2 года назад +1

      It's very easy to hit while moving. It's 100% accurate.

  • @aysqi
    @aysqi Год назад

    Omg eggwick literally predicted 6 months before the fpx vs xset match that killjoy turret is the supreme one atleast in the thumbnail

  • @danlikerone6938
    @danlikerone6938 10 месяцев назад

    with omen's ult you can do some incredible plays, it is good if in the right hands, but it takes a while to learn to use it well

  • @Piccolospm
    @Piccolospm 2 года назад +4

    For the KAY/O ult, yeah people can see you, but if they are smart they probably won’t peak without util against an overcharged enemy, AND your teammates are most likely with you. Also invalidates raze ult, chamber gun and ult, and neon ult, as well as stopping jett ult for a long time. Easy goated tier

    • @trixter9318
      @trixter9318 2 года назад

      im kay/o main, and i think many people kinda overestimating his ult, yes it disable many agents but bro it is giving enemies info and thats a big downfall of this ult, enemies gonna know you all gonna commit trough that site... it is very OP actually, but dont forget, in this game, A BULLET from vandal, can stop you... the best thing to avoid this is not giving info to your enemies where you are... and thats what exactly kay/o ult does, thats why the knife is better than the ult, its safer, flexible, and versatile (it gives u info, disabling enemies, and enemy dont rlly know where u r)

  • @DuckVader777
    @DuckVader777 2 года назад +3

    Haven't watched yet but all of astra's stuff better be Garbo or I cry
    Edit: I am now crying

  • @lemongreed7916
    @lemongreed7916 20 дней назад

    The whole Astra's suck discussion single-handedly got me out of depression

  • @joshuaday676
    @joshuaday676 2 года назад

    And on your cypher ult, i feel like it needs to concuss them at the end of it or something aye for the reveal time maybe with a longer reveal time too as the reveal time is actually just a 1frame ping that leaves an after image for a second.

  • @championcasper
    @championcasper 2 года назад +5

    27:17 isnt reyna's dismiss on ult better cuz they cant see you **and i guess you move faster while dismissed with ult?** also id say her ult is definitly better/at the same level as dismiss

    • @pedrorezende4873
      @pedrorezende4873 2 года назад +2

      yeah is better because you are inv. but I dont think you are faster then regular dismiss. Her ult is still not very good because you need to get kills to get usage out of it, while most other ults you get some usage guaranteed most of the time

  • @cornflake7246
    @cornflake7246 2 года назад +6

    But Jetts flight ability is missing

    • @Nana_UFC
      @Nana_UFC 2 года назад +2

      Isn't that a passive?

  • @bakccc3313
    @bakccc3313 2 года назад

    if they play slow and u get a kill on a lurker its perfect to know where they going or just with a brim or sova ult its pretty versatile

  • @en-inferno
    @en-inferno 2 года назад

    Cypher trap is goated because if u shoot it u get notified if u activate it the whole team knows and u can put it in positions where u need them

  • @riker8214
    @riker8214 2 года назад +5

    As a Jett main, I can confidently claim that her dash is the most busted and best ability in the game. Pretty much her whole kit actually. Don’t like this fight? Dash away! Oh you thought you were gonna entry? 2 sec into the round you’ve been AWP’d and Jett is gone. Sova ult? Nah, she can fly. Chamber has a trip! I’ll just smoke that off…

    • @kiefer5win491
      @kiefer5win491 2 года назад

      (lower ranks dont have brains, so her kits for lr is bad 😂)

    • @djinn4u
      @djinn4u 2 года назад

      chamber tp so much better

    • @riker8214
      @riker8214 2 года назад +1

      @@djinn4u I don’t think so. If you want to get out and go to a predetermined spot then sure, that one situation it is better to have a chamber TP. But Jetts is versatile and can be used on the fly, and it resets after two kills. It can also be used offensively to create space or close distance which Chamber’s TP can’t do. All around the dash is just better because it can do more

    • @James-sm7kn
      @James-sm7kn 2 года назад

      @@riker8214 for the initial hold chamber tp can be better but jett dash is more versatile. Also this is why I think cypher trip is better than chamber trip.

    • @riker8214
      @riker8214 2 года назад

      @@James-sm7kn there are definitely things you can do with the TP you can’t do with a dash. Like walk out down B Long on Bind and throw down the TP anchor. You can catch people on a crazy ass off angle they don’t expect by being halfway down Long. Lol it works really well with the operator

  • @dawn1553
    @dawn1553 2 года назад +3

    Rate everyones clothing and fashion sense next chamber ezz S😂

    • @James-sm7kn
      @James-sm7kn 2 года назад +1

      nah fam he tries too hard. Honestly jett looking pretty clean though, same with phoenix.

    • @dawn1553
      @dawn1553 2 года назад +1

      @@James-sm7kn tru tho

  • @bruhmeme8737
    @bruhmeme8737 2 года назад +1

    Jett smoke is actually great value if you use it right cuz you can block sova recon bolt so you sneak attack cuz if you destroy it sova will know so it’s very good

  • @_Pesty
    @_Pesty 2 года назад

    As a breach main breaches aftershock deserves goated it gives you free kills on anyone in a cubby but most importantly it’s the only or one of the only ways to stop a tunnel kj alt on fracture for only 200$ which usually gives that team all of site and 1-2 kills off rotaters

  • @gold7929
    @gold7929 Год назад

    neon's stun is goated its bounce has its own stun giving you two stun per one shot

  • @ponxotime5946
    @ponxotime5946 Год назад

    Cypher trapwires are the best. When an enemy gets hit by it, it get revealed and lock in place, and if they dont destroy it they get stun.

  • @Diana._.berryyy
    @Diana._.berryyy Год назад

    The one and only reaosn astra is not played as much in valorant is that we get too busy with playing around with the stars and the suck and shock thing that we forget that we even have to shoot. Her abilities are SO complicated, riot messed up in making her.

  • @Wickerless
    @Wickerless Год назад

    Cypher trap makes the target visible (like the sova dart), thats pretty substantial.

  • @Qwerty-wd2ci
    @Qwerty-wd2ci 2 года назад

    Ima just say as a yoru main I'm happy to see our abilities aren't all put in garbo now, also yoru ult is so good it's just a free kill or 2 with util and if you don't u can just get so much info

  • @cccdeadpoolxd920
    @cccdeadpoolxd920 Год назад

    omen ult cool when whole fight is going on in A and you plant in C
    also killing them from behind is fun

  • @Jkrocsko
    @Jkrocsko Год назад

    I played Raze once in replication and got a kill w/ a satchel. They were dumb yes, but its still good

  • @kvas6255
    @kvas6255 Год назад

    31:56 as a Sova main I’d say it’s a game changing ability if used properly. When I started playing sova I used it before I had info. Now just last week I remember was in a 3v1 got a nice recon out and killed all three on site.

  • @Nookulus
    @Nookulus 2 года назад

    Tbh, kj ult is goated imo, you can get so much from it, free site, detains, info, people pushing the ult, catching them off guard when running away, or enemies wasting util

  • @Yiyao1229
    @Yiyao1229 2 года назад

    eggwick upload pog

  • @tal2992
    @tal2992 2 года назад +1

    kay/o's ult is amazing since it deletes other ults in range in addition to giving you another life

  • @SJKING97
    @SJKING97 Год назад

    bro seeing chamber trip in great value after post nerf is hilarious

  • @uncleocean2832
    @uncleocean2832 2 года назад

    You can do shorty play with animation canceling basically throw flash and then unult it will make your equip time faster and the enemy will be blind so you can do the shorty play

  • @hotdogguy6590
    @hotdogguy6590 2 года назад +1

    i think shrouded step should be more higher cause it can help alot when ur trying to get out of situations

  • @PA-up4vn
    @PA-up4vn 4 месяца назад

    cypher trip and cage combo is op

  • @Emalinka
    @Emalinka Год назад

    I play brim on bind because ulting the tp then making them come out and die to my bullets or staying in there and burning to death it just gets me so many kills

  • @miracleld4956
    @miracleld4956 2 года назад

    man i can`t watch the video the hello youtube i can`t stop repeating it its too good

  • @crypticnijisanjifanLazulight
    @crypticnijisanjifanLazulight 2 года назад

    I love flow's vids

  • @prometheusRDS
    @prometheusRDS Год назад

    Bro people kinda just forget that Cypher trip reveals lol, it can totally delay the entry and give the team an easy wallbang.

  • @d.p.skoushik8930
    @d.p.skoushik8930 Год назад

    bro that damned wall saved my phoenix more than jett instalockers in my valo. it is best used in a duel to block the line of sight and a little heal and to flash. I did many kills like that

  • @thecrazysheep5334
    @thecrazysheep5334 Год назад

    I mean, actually (now) cypher ult depends on the scenario you play it, in a retake scenario is really really good knowing where the enemies are so your team can push without wondering about possible enemies behind a corner, in the other hand they can make it a bit more useful like marking through the walls as it already does but for like 1s so you can see how enemy team move after ulting, or, better, making that enemies gets something like 3-4 seconds of paranoia (it's a neural theft so it make sense...right?)

  • @vojtechcerny6586
    @vojtechcerny6586 Год назад

    we need a second episode, a lot has changed !!! XD

  • @EXtraCALIBUR
    @EXtraCALIBUR Год назад

    Bro brims ult is hot. I used it as a smoke to get the defuse off

  • @DGT_Catvenom
    @DGT_Catvenom 2 года назад

    So you know the stim for brim is only 100 credits. Also the 15% speed boost helps with fast rotates and Ferrari peaks. Also if you use both for rotate you can get the spike down before they even get to the site.