This SILVER Swears He Deserves DIAMOND... So We Made Him Prove It (in a Diamond Game)
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You need to keep the silver player anonymous, then have the other players guess who the silver was at the end. Also lifts some pressure off the actual silver player because not all the eyes are on him.
Genius
actually their silver player was already known by many of egg's viewers so it was difficult to keep him anonymous as egg's chat alreday know him.
@@shiveshkumarmishra4573 then he shouldn't have streamed it?? lol
@@ethanyin4809 nah it's also for the twitch content
@@ethanyin4809 ⛷⛷⛷ ey what
Honestly this shows how useful high elo comms are, coordination is very important and he can really shine with info, silver players just don’t talk man
Even gold and plat
So if my team is not doing comms or answering my questions and follow the info that I said I muted them then play Spotify fuck those player
Silver players ligit gulp their mic so the thing is whenever they talk the quality is so ass that u just want to mute them
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Sometimes you get good teammates that com and stuff even in low elo but sometimes you get 0 coms
this would have been an amazing "Can 9 diamond players guess the silver player?" video
factsss
I mean he is cheating ? lol u can see the aim lock.. 22:44
@@derpycat6941 if he does cheating you can see he missed the first shot, then micro adjust and hit the rest of the shots to the body not HEAD, dont be jealous if you dont have that kind of Aim
@@derpycat6941 if he does cheating you can see he missed the first shot, then micro adjust and hit the rest of the shots to the body not HEAD, dont be jealous if you dont have that kind of Aim
@@derpycat6941 that's like 1 sus out of the hundred things he normally did.
It's pretty insignificant for even any punctilious people
For anyone wondering. dstn stayed in silver until E4: A3 where he hit Gold 2. Then through the entire of E5 dstn was Plat 2. He has not yet placed in E6: A1 but god bless we hope he climbs up that ranking ladder if he does.
God bless dstnlive you finally made it out!
(He also peaked at Plat 3 in E5: A3 for some of the Act)
And here I am played 500+ comp games E6 act 1 and yet Bronze 2... Lost 276 Games, Won 284 😅I perform everytime but the team I get here never let's me go ahead.! Yeah I deserve silver but no plat or gold
@@QwakX779 play less games and focus on the games you play
@@QwakX779 holy shit 500+... i played like 40 games in E6act1 and is my first act and i got gold. i cant imagine myself playing more than a 100 games an act
@@QwakX779 gang banger 3000
The silver got a great aim and a decent game sense. He just needs to be more consistent and i believe he can peak diamond with his potential. I was SPEED Exalt and i was on the silver’s team. Thanks for the opportunity to let me play in this event. I hope your channel will grow bigger, Eggwick ;).
THE CLUTCH DEMON HIMSELF
BEEP BEEP IM A SHEEP
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i love you daddy sppeeed
I'm just gonna say it, if this guy deserves diamond, then I do too. It's just fax
im an iron 2 and I think I deserve wood 1
Edit 6/27: i an now bronze and I think I deserve air 1
go grief minecraft servers
I believe i should be unrated 1
@@BedWarBoy lmao yes
What the heck, fancy seeing you here
I believe i deserve cardboard 2
Legend says that Dustin is still hard stuck silver
nope he got to plat in E5
@@gnspectre i got diamond just 2 weeks of playing val
@@MASTERCHIEF2434 Why does that matter again? also if it was before asc was added then it was free anyways tbh.
I think he did good. I’m a low elo player but the fact that he held his own is pretty amazing hope he gets diamond
"if theres no support, be the support" what a great mind this man has
amen brotha
Facts
just dont be jett
That why i play omen lol
Major W
finally sombody who thinks that he deserves a higher elo *and* can play like it
The extreme rare
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Proof that it depends on the team. Anyone deserves higher elo if they get put on a higher elo team
Nah, hes not that good, like plat... but diamond, is a far way from him
@@marcelgg8508 at the start, he belonged in diamond, 2nd game prolly plat, 3rd played like a good silver
I’d give him high gold/low plat. He wasn’t consistent and even though he bot fragged the last game he had 10 assists, so he was still contributing in some way.
22:44 he flicked on him through a wall
That did look weird
only thing I could think of is that chamber was running and hit the edge of his sound range but ya really weird
no bro he didnt he is just low sensitivity player and when he wants to move to the left he have to move his mouse a lot and move it up to move another time
I think something that helped him play in a lobby is trust. Knowing that DIAMONDS are watching your back or holding angles for you gives more ideas.
update: diamond 3 now, i was silver when i made the comment. yeah diamonds r pretty much glorified silvers lol
And also, it put more pressure on the diamonds because THEY are supposed to win against a silver.
That's the whole point of this. He said he was hard stuck sliver cause he did not trust silver teammates to do well.
Diamonds don't do that shit sadly, neither do low immortals I be in ranked mad asf😭💀
honestly it goes to show that teammates actually matter for example when i play low plat/high gold people get on site and dont watch any spots just run around(or rush) and die eventually same goes for def where they dont fight give out the site where you would then have to play for retake but the best part is that they leave the site open and when the team is still not there they go in again like? 1vs4/5 why? and it happens almost every round or giving out first blood every round in the same spot cause of ego not to mention in this elo every second game there is an afk/leaver even more so goes to show since ppl play in 3ppl and climb ranks but then when they play solo q they get stomped half the time
in low elo you cant play expecting your team to play correctly, so you have to play for yourself. people wont trade kills and they dont give any info. you just need to play for yourself, which is bad if your goal is to improve at the game and not simply to get to the next rank. if you play to your elo, you get to the next one and you struggle because you pick up a lot of bad habits that are then hard to drop. the kay/o was able to perform because he played with the team and he seemed to have a good general understanding of the game, for sure better than silver or even gold players
The fact that he performed well under pressure is something in itself
it's the "support" he got from jett in the first game 😏
I mean he is cheating ? lol u can see the aim lock.. 22:44
@@derpycat6941 if he does cheating you can see he missed the first shot, then micro adjust and hit the rest of the shots to the body not HEAD, dont be jealous if you dont have that kind of Aim
@@derpycat6941 skill issue
@@derpycat6941 it's called adjusting your aim bro
This is the best advice. Whether it’s your team or not, all you need to do is just carry harder
Subbed. Loved the video!
We are silver hardstucks:
-we have decent aim
-we have decent game sense
-but we zone out a lot
-get killed while looking at the map
-watch the same spot every round hoping to make some clips
-focus to much on one angle while exposed to others
-ego peak too much if we get tilted in a game
-think we are good at one agent if we frag out of one lucky game
-we know what mistakes we do, but forget to implement/correct them on the spot
I am silver and my biggest issue is consistency, I go from mvp to bottom fragger and then mvp again is crazy
@@onepoh4680 literally me 30k to 2k(THE WHOLE MATCH) real quick and im not even exaggerating
Why is this too accurate
Same. But i'm hardstuck Iron. 💀👍
bruh literally
I can't believe killua performed so well in the diamond lobby. So proud of his journey
💀💀
I have him in my friends list (he's my younger brother's batchmate IRL), he's been bouncing between dia3 and immo1 in terms of rank. He's a solid player already, just a bit more consistency and he'll be retaining immortal without problems
@@enzotansingco2199 lucky
shut up LOL!!!!!
He's on my friends list also. He was a gold player when I met him. He is really good.
I love your little avatar so much, it's perfect
Gratz on Gold 2 Dustin!
Man’s playing like 3 ranks above him and isnt 0-55. That in itself is impressive
Bro like 9 ranks above him hahaha
game is ass not impressive at all
@@jamesgary3863 like u could do better
@@ngck_ do what? tap and pray?
@@jamesgary3863 bro y u hating, have you played this game?!?!?!?!!
I didn't expect Dustin to be the silver in this video and I can say from personal experience, being one of his friends and being in a stack with a friend group, he's pretty consistent and I believe he should be in a higher rank. I believe the only reason he can't rank up is because his teammates from said stack, which also include me because I know I suck and our stack drags him down. Not to say our stack is crappy it's just he preforms better than us. His comms, mechanical skill and game sense surpass his elo, so I do hope him the best at ranking up
Edit: dstn has now gotten above silver
Might I ask if I could join you guys sometimes 😅
@@frostedfox8813 no
pepeLaugh i resisted @ everyone our discord
Don't play 5 man. Playing 5 man is broken. You can expect smurfs. Even at silv, players are bringing smurfs during 5 man plays. Duo or trio is your best bet.
Only play 5 man if u have a bunch of smurfs in on it. Otherwise you will most likely get Smurf queue.
been a while, dstnlive is an eggwick channel legend
Back when i used to play i was hardstuck silver forever, when i finally got to gold. it was basically immediately to plat. people say it's not your team it's you, but it really honestly is the team sometimes.
Me watching this realising that the "smurf" I got to play against a few matches ago is actually hardstuck and supposed to be diamond
Start learning callouts...and using your mic in game. You'll be surprised how all humans have relatively similar reaction times...regardless of Radiant or Iron...and most of it just has to deal with 1 team playing in the "dark"....while the other team has callouts and is playing with "wall hacks"...
And if you're serious about climbing...stop duoing with people that don't want to climb. Only play spike rush/escalation with them. Soon you'll climb too many levels and the game won't let you duo with him anyways...so might as well just help yourself get there sooner...
The main difference between Silver lobby and Diamond lobby and the SEN/Optic/pro team....is the comms. Silver barely has comms...diamond has comms sometimes...and a pro team doesn't stop comming...and pro teams will have very efficient language/system of callouts/priorities...Its all in the communication/brain above silver...since most people know crosshair placement by the time they get to Silver.
@@DJUwU as an immo cypher main that sometimes plays with my hardstuck silver friends let me tell ya that the difference is actually huge in my eye as someone experienced but it is little things and I agree comms are very important ever since I remember I was always comming a lot and trying to help out with out backseating but actually thinking about how you play and what to do not just cause u feel like it is important, recommended dropping by hikos stream he likes explaining his way of thinking, a simple example would be you want to play a close angle on defense on a pistol now the enemy has a Skye and raze, if u think you'll know that unless enemies make a mistake u are surely dead and won't get any value so you're better of doing another play, just think and take advice from more experienced players, you will regret some of your "takes" later, Fe used to think back in silver that cypher cages were basically a useless ability now I can't stress enough how great they are and how they come in clutch so much
@@DJUwU I make callouts, use VC, ping locations, call out damage when I die, try to preaim spots and keep the crosshair at head or at least chest level
Iron hard stuck :^)
Just gonna reply to this here and hope one of you is high enough level to respond. I started playing valorant like 5 days ago. On first round, (i always play unrated cuz I'm lvl 19 and not high enough to play competitive) pretty much everyone buys, by order of popularity, either A) Ghost B) Sheriff C) shield (i usually go for shield and save my 400 left over). However in this video egg says that he's never seen that before. To me, that's just logical. Every top Fragger in all my lobbies does that. Idk its just second nature to me and it made me question alot. Anyone know why it's bad to get ghost first?
@@nathan9901 I hope my immortal brain can give u a good general answer and hopefully not too late. Its not always bad to buy a ghost on pistol rounds. I would say it mostly depends on what agent ur playing and the level of play since its almost always better to buy all of your utility for the team rather than a gun for yourself. But if ur in an iron-silver lobby the team will probably not be able to use all of the utility in a good way anyway so it doesnt really matter what u buy there lol.
What eggwick said was weird was that he bought a ghost on an eco round (a round where the team cant afford to buy good weapons and utility) and I would agree since a ghost isn’t gonna be able to do much against the better weapons while a sheriff can one-tap. Hope I answered your question :)
He was very impressive for his rank, for sure. I think he was making too many mistakes for diamond, but I wouldn't be surprised if he gets it soon. His aim is good and he knows how to play off of his team and utilities, but consistency and I think agent experience might be a downside. I'm thinking low to mid platinum might be a better placement.
Still, he didn't really hold his team back and that's worth a lot.
according to some random comment just 2 months ago, he is in fact low plat; you were spot on sir!
nice
"If there aint no support, BE the support"
Valorant Curious is a great channel but your commentary makes this way more engaging and entertaining!
"its literally no support, like my family" he deserves more than diamond
but fr his aim and game sense is decent, can't wait for his glowup
decent>?
@@karambit821 it's pretty good
@@nesto9889 i know but it's not good not bad
He did bot frag on the last game, but he was making an impact on the game. He had 10 assists, which either means he was helping his team with util or getting good damage off
Good smokes and usually good flashes too
@@fahim2797 good smokes.... have you seen the last one? if he focused a little more and jumped a little less, Very noisy...the bad thing is that the communications you have are not heard, another important point,
@@taizocsgo6831 he did say he was an iniciator main
This is how Riot games ranking works. It is almost purely off your win rate. So yes, you can get a bad rank if you get bad teammates. Immortal doesn't necessarily mean you are better than Iron. But being immortal, you are likely MUCH better than Iron and will carry the team to win.
In this scenario, you see a Silver player capable of supporting and fragging like a Diamond. BUT, in a silver game, he would not be able to support as well for lower-tier players that can't keep up, and he would not carry hard enough. So, yes, he is silver. The difference between Iron through platinum, though, is not too different. It is Diamond and above where EXACT cursor placement, reaction time, and, more importantly, game knowledge is a huge determining factor.
@@codymyers4301 You say Iron and plat is kind of the same? i think you need to play more games, lol, stop talking out of your ass please! you literally have no idea what you are talking about, lmao
What he said about low ELO being unpredictable is really true, weird shit happens down here
I mean aims pretty good tbh, early on when he's playing with the team he seems ok, when he's doing his own thing he looks lost, he stands in the open a lot, he makes a lot of noise, he takes fights when he should hang back, there is a lot of game sense stuff he's not going very well and his utility he just seems to throw whenever he has it.
He didn’t do too bad. I think he could really progress fast if he worked on gamesense and util a bit more. His aim seens pretty good!
thanks mate!
@@dstnlive no problem! Good luck!!!!!
@@dstnlive bro you nice with it i wish you good luck on your journey
@@dstnlive bro you are very good
He can easily reach gold the way he is now
"better than getting no support , be the support" I can feel the pain
Ranking up from a rank is more than just getting good, you need to be able to adapt to different teams, which might be difficult if a team doesn't play exactly like you want them to, so that could cause you to lose games.
this is what im doing: main brim smoke, winstreak climbing ranks. "it's not all about the kills", "you can go omen smoke and delay for your team to get picks" you just have to choose your battles
YESSIR SO CAN I GET THAT SELF PROMO 🥶
Ur pretty good no cap
@@cromestone1684 thanks mate!
@@dstnlive will u carry me lol
@@cromestone1684 cant even get myself out of silver mate 😭
you are officially one of the few people who can back up their claim, saying that they should be in a higher rank
Killua mentioned an issue dstn has in the 3rd game, referring to his 'movement', but I don't think that's really the issue, it's his 'pathing'. It's catching out high-elo players because his position isn't expected, but it's only working because the rest of his team is expected to play 'properly'. It's not necessarily a bad thing, knowing what other people expect and subverting their expectations in surprising ways is a legitimate tactic in high level games. Knowing when and where to apply such tactics is the key factor. Anyway, despite what I was saying, I don't think the silver was doing this deliberately or consciously. If it's not a decision he's actively making, it's a mis-play to hold some of the angles he chooses to hold, and to push up into the places he takes gunfights from.
Due to the chaotic nature of silver, nobody is in the right position, so holding extreme off-angles isn't particularly useful. Dstn's gamesense and knowledge of how to entry/clear/retake sites needs a little bit of tightening up (i.e. frantically clearing corners while continuing to run, rather than methodically isolating and checking angles quickly with good counter-strafing,). I wouldn't say dstn deservers diamond yet, but it's not a stretch for him to get there either.
First couple seconds of the round mans getting that gawk gawk 3000
DSNT: throws a normal fade eye.
Eggwick: what is this lineup?
It’s his decision making, running with his knife out 24/7 and approaches to situations that make him silver…he just has good aim
His rotates kinda Clueless too. Never have your knife out when you don't know where the ennemies are. If they aren't on the other site it's because they are also rotating so they will catch you with your pants down 100% !
His sens is either WAYYYY too high or he flicks weirdly. When he tries his crosshair placements are good but in action, in chaos, it looks like he gets anxious and looses control of his sens too easily.
And lastly his anchors are not the best. It's good that he has aim but if you know your angles you don't need aim. Like on breeze B site he always stays on right main which is the first place the opponent will check, cross-hair ready. Instead he should go further back and jiggle peak or go back site entirely and jump peak to reposition if needed.
probably not that impactful. Its a problem but it isnt like there weren't diamonds that do the same
He jumps alot and takes his knife alot
@Bzone plat for sure
totally agree
From a pure spectating perspective(I'm not particularly high elo, but I've taught several newer players and I watch coaching vods a lot for fun), some things that stood out are
1. He's a really good shot, definitely more consistent than me... Though sometimes he takes fights he doesn't need to/shouldn't take(several times ascent mid)
2. He uses utility with team pretty well(on Kayo), but his positioning/awareness needs some practice(several times he is going really wide or standing in the open for no reason 6:21, 6:53, 9:36, 12:40, 16:00, 17:27)
3. Stop swapping to knife for no reason - you see high elo players do it but only when they are very confident they won't need to take a gunfight, but dstn seems to quickswap for no reason in the open or in the middle of gunfights. Pulls out utility a lot while in the open, tho some of it is just unlucky timing(9:20, 11:47).
Overall for sure plat - utility usage, aim, teamplay for sure, but game sense and spatial awareness just needs some practice against higher level players(a lot of the issues I pointed out I see a lot with lower level players because they don't/can't punish them, so playing consistently with higher elo players will force him to learn and he should be able to get diamond no problem)
Edit: added some timestamps
"going really wide". Do you mean wide swing?
@@fynjaaa.7946 Not necessarily?
6:21 - why he standing out in the open? If the Jett back site didn't wiff on him after killing his teammate, the round could have gone the other way. Why not just play on site where there's cover, or double up on orange?
16:00 - why is he standing in the middle of mid to look at the double doors cross? He was exposed to elbow at a wider angle than nest could hold, so he dies since the elbow chamber makes contact with him before fighting the nest chamber. He gets traded, but if he sat unexposed in tunnel, he has the same angle to double doors but the chamber actually has his elbow.
17:30ish - after getting a kill on site from tunnel boxes, he decides to stay in the same spot. Whether not changing position is necessary or not, I dunno, but he doesn't hug the box, instead going out toward mid again, exposing his back to the same angle he just got a kill from? So he dies
So not necessarily wide swinging, but more just sitting out in the open?
@@wangdh226 hmm ok. Can u coach me? Im currenly silver 2 but i dunno what mistake that makes me cant climb. (Also i always play at gold-sometimes plat)
@@fynjaaa.7946 To be frank, I'm not interested. But if you upload a video of a round you think you did great and a round you think you did badly, I can give some comments in my free time..
I understand why he believes why he should be in a higher rank than silver but not diamond or plat. He deserves Gold imo tho.
I relate to him, I get teammates who are just SO bad and people who throw, whilst I'm up against people with God like aim. Me and Dustin have similar skill set, I'm silver 2 and have been playing 2-3 months.
I love the rgx vandal its so clean and nice
The difference between high rank and low rank is consistency, thats what the ranking system works well for. 100 games and being diamond doesnt mean shit, 1000 games and being diamond does however. You were right about him possibly having a good game and others perhaps not, if you did this with him 10 times you might see him start to fall off and the others outperform him because they are more consistent with their plays and aim across multiple games, which is probably why they are diamond and hes not.
Also, you dont know how he reacts and works with other teammates on a regular basis. Clearly he already has the mentality "my teammates always suck and im just better" which is enough to ruin any team play. He cant do that here because they are all diamond and hes not.
I think he might be gold or plat because he has issues in areas where your little experiment doesnt cover.
Very true. I just started playing the game. I started in Bronze but I might drop to iron because even though I try my best to be a good teammate I am not good at the game as an individual. Because I am not consistently good I will not climb yet.
Right now In trying to figure out what weapons to use when and where and what Agent to play in what comp. I rotate between Brim, Skye, and KJ. Im not a fragger so I havent touched duelist.
why did that "your little experiment" sound angry lol
@@Willy_Warmer It is a little one because its not informative enough to be a big one and there aint enough games or any way to show he's mentality :)
Yeah, as a newer player, even I can tell that consistency is important. I am not even to ranked, but like, he should iron out his strengths and weaknesses and possibly warm up before serious ranked games.
Like, I think he should also experiment with playstyles. It's good to learn to be good at one thing, but at the same time, it can cost you. I've just started and I've been finding out that people do notice when you're not switching it up every now and again.
Tho to climb in low elo you have to be selfish and can’t always rely on your teammates for the exact reason you stated
"nobody seems out of place here"
Meanwhile, Mega Knight dying repeatedly in the most ridiculous blunder possible every time he is spectated
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Yeah I was thinking the whole time are we sure Mega Knight wasn't carried to Diamond.
@@thomasjackwelter you know what they say, mega knight users are no skill
He is lagging 🤦♀️
they didnt even have mini pekka on the other team
Great Video, I think the content is great only thing i will say is that when you are deciding if someone deserves a rank you should try to move the player between teams to gauge his impact on maps with a team. So for example its great that you did a best of 3 but if you were trying to see purely how he plays in the rank it would be best to move the player between teams for the players who play the same role as him. Its a lot like seat racing in rowing. because its hard to tell how well people can preform on any given day. you use the two teams to show the difference in play, by swapping the player between teams and seeing if the team starts to roll the other or not. If Team A had the silver and barely wins a BO3 but then you swap him for the initiatior player on team B and then Team A rolls a BO3 2-0 with 13-0 scorelines both times then he wasn't having as much impact as the diamond intiatior player in the lobby. Then its just down to school of thought as well, you want maps that are well known so that players feel comfortable and you want to play both line ups on those maps. Still a fun watch keep making content i am sure you will find a way to translate your brand to new games.
This video is a prime example of how people actually performs with the right comp doing their jobs whilst yes the ranking system is flawed any team doing their jobs can get to the top ranks and thus the people who don't do so get stuck in the lower ranks
Also he was kinda like me on r6 solo que stuck in gold yet the moment i get a competent stack to diamond i go
Sticking the spike through the sova ult was honestly pretty pog. He was either forced out to an angle a defender could shoot him or he could of stuck the plant amd put pressure on the outnumbered defenders to push in. I liked that play a lot.
20:40 Where you mention predicting lower elo. As a new player coming into silver, what I've noticed it comes down to if your opponents are observant and thinking. It's hard to trick an opponent if they're just playing random and not paying attention to when you dart, nade, place your viper wall etc. You end up outthinking yourself in the end. But in higher elo where they're paying attention to more details about positioning and utility (and have better coms) and are attempting to predict your play is where you can play more mind games.
exactly, when i was in your elo nobody really cares about more strategic ways to use util or how to block the enemy’s util. i’m p1 now not much higher but now people actually care about more common angles to watch, where the dart lands and to break it, and they end up overthinking everything. mind games are easier because of this
@@victjsofjsmdngor I peaked d2 and I'm now stuck in gold not because of teammates, but opponents. for this very reason.
@@Dremlo omg gold was a nightmare 😭 not just what i mentioned but the endless smurfs and all the higher ranks always ending up on the other team and all the worse ranks on your team was insufferable
I mean he is cheating ? lol u can see the aim lock.. 22:44
@@derpycat6941 if he does cheating you can see he missed the first shot, then micro adjust and hit the rest of the shots to the body not HEAD, dont be jealous if you dont have that kind of Aim
at the beginning *breathes in* "les go" in a high pitched voice
Love the video
He's probably worse in an uncoordinated environment. In a 5-stack with 4 players that mostly know what they're doing, his decent ability use and good aim get to shine, probably quite a bit more than in a regular game. That'd be my guess.
everybody would be worse there. he can compete with diamonds thats clear now.
yeah, you can see it in some rounds where he made hella questionable decisions on his own, aim is good, utility looks fine too, but game sense is sometimes still a bit pepega
I switched from CSGO to Valorant. I was LE in csgo, no i was silver in valo for like 4 month. struggled a bit with understanding all these abilities and stuff in the beginning, but im almost every round top fragger, 1,8 kd and people text me that i'm obviously smurfing.. i just cant get out of silver, because i only solo q and teamplay on silver elo sucks and so many people are smurfing.. its not fun to be hard stuck there.
@@bintus I’ve played high golf games and I’ve top fragged or played my role perfectly all of the games I place near the top or at least not bottom two however my actual rank is bronze three to be fair I barely play rn but when I took it seriously I got to silver three and just could not get out I only had a duo and my team just drags me to hell it’s amplified because I play viper so I started playing Reyna but if I don’t drop over twenty five every game I don’t win I can tell they game expects me to win instead of balancing they should queue skill and coms over balance if someone is a filler bottom then just de rank him or put them on the same team so we can get a more accurate system
im a team player, i tend to follow the consistency of what helps my team. i think this guy has really good team work, which is what makes him so much better. he has skill along with the ability to help his team REALLY well without trying to out perform or show off.
good teammate is definitely something we cant really gage off this video, he HAS to be friendly in this lobby because everyone knows hes silver and theyre not, so if he starts to ego them they would just flame the fuck outta him, but in a silver lobby hes probably way more confident and likely talks down on everyone ruining morale, based on his "my teammates are ass" comment, its also alot easier than you think to blend in to a higher rank lobby if ur the only one at a lower rank because you can just take a backseat and play off teammates, youll notice it in these vids cause when theres only 1 player out of rank he usually will do pretty well but when they do those 5 silvers who think they deserve plat (which is also easier than diamond so by logic theyd do better) vs 5 actual plats, they get steam rolled
He should be working on basics instead of teamplay and stuff. His utility usage is great, just sometimes he doesn't know what to do with those and that is perfectly normal for the rank where he is. He is really bad at positioning and he is doing lot of unnecessary stuff like quick switching, swinging like prod instead of regular clearing, having his knife out for too long, don't know where to walk and such. He is solid high gold, but that's it from me.
@@dusheyo6769 people typically only getting better playing in higher ranked lobbies, he has the help of the other diamonds, but he still held his ground, he just needs to slow down his panic and practice line ups, but playing in higher ranked lobbies will only better his skill
@@luvingcleo You're right. If he has not only a better team, but better opponents, then his skill growth and cap is going to be much higher than if he is facing lesser opponents and with a weaker team. As such, not only will his rank increase, but his skill will reflect it.
@@connorgarvin2056 I got that vibe off him as well.. I def think he talks down to his team if he's losing. He's seems to have that ego. He also weapon switches a lot .. Which is annoying to me.. His crosshair placement is ehhh.
I think he deserves more than silver to be sure. Playing this well, with his team, consistently and having a heavy impact on the game says a lot by itself. Having said that, the whole jumping, flipping his knife out, then gun, got him killed a few times and is habitual. Not sure he deserves diamond but I feel like he'd improve quickly in Gold and/or Plat and would consistently do well. Diamond might be a stretch.
Egg sounds like fry when he talks with surprise
Something he could work on that’ll be a huge help in the long run is isolate angles and make sure you are visible to the fewest angles possible. That is one way he died a lot this game was peaking one angle but doing it wrong to where he was visible to another 2-3 angles and died cause someone was watching the other one
Feel like this dude deserves gold or plat maybe even diamond as he said, he just needs some game sense
Yeah i agree, but he also need to stop reloading after 3-4 bullets, aswell as pulling out util in the open as much as he does, got caught a lot. He has a lot of potential.
I feel like game sense is a very vague concept, and people just throw out the phrase without elaborating what exactly the issue is
@@sarimsalman2698 fact
@@sarimsalman2698 I think game sense means things like knowing when to or where to ult, how to use your util, save round, buy round, map awareness etc stuff like these.
@@sarimsalman2698 You're right, it's a vague concept, an umbrella term that's thrown around too often, but simply put, it's an understanding of the game which helps form the player's prediction of enemy strategy and then his own decision-making and play.
2 examples I found from skimming the video
11:49
He's running knife out, through mid nest.
Gamesense is understanding that the area is not clear, and he should have weapon at the ready
42:48
his reyna dies in mid grass, he knows there's at least 2, but he walk swings garage door
Gamesense would be recognizing that "that's a dumb play, let's not do that"
i would really like a section at the end where you give your thoughts and feedback, great vid!
As a silver player. This man's aim is better than almost any teammate that I've had in a game
Dstnlive is a rarity of "I'm X low rank but deserve Y higher rank" actually being able to back it up, but maybe not diamond just yet. Certainly above silver level, I could see him getting to plat 2/3 with his current state. Fix the gamesense issues, and for sure he gets to diamond
Thanks for believing mate
@@dstnlive what this video shows....is if you get rid of your friend pulling you down...and replace him with 4 diamond friends...you'd probably be diamond right now. Not even joking...not saying you should ditch your current friends completely...but know that they are holding you back.
I am Plat right now...but I was stuck for the longest time in Bronze/Silver. After I stopped duoing with my friend in ranked...I climbed to Gold 2 in a week...and he went down to Iron 1...where he currently resides (occasionally hits Iron 2 but goes back down to Iron 1 soon after). PS- just don't be an a%%hole about it...I play escalation/spike rush with him everyday as warmup! Gives me great confidence before each ranked game!!! And give him tips to improve if he ever asks...but you'll just find yourself repeating a lot of the same stuff.....but whatever. If you don't move on...your rank will be dependent on him! (I know...its sometimes more fun to lose with friends than win with strangers...but thats what all the other modes are for!)
PS...I'd honestly say you'd be better than 1/2 my teammates if you play like this every game(s)! Have a gameplan if you really want to climb to Diamond...and stick to that gameplan until it doesn't work anymore and regroup/re-strategize. You got this!
I think one of the main things I saw from this is that he needs to not use his util out in the open as much and understand that if he plays the same angles/peeks everytime it won’t always work the other team (if they’re good enough) will adapt. But ofher than that he impressed me a lot it was really cool to watch him actually do more than expected. Good job man 👍🏼
his intro is very hilarious and funny. BTW love your videos.🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
31:48 thats quite funny coz as long as you can aim and cooperate well and know your rotations without feeding then you can make an impact even if you wont use your utils at all.
I'm Bronze and I think I deserve Iron.
Nice
im bronze and i think i deserve stone
I'm Iron 2 but I think i deserve Wood
I deserve water
Plastic
Egg is the type of guy who would roast a egoistic person about their ranks and gameplay on regular basis, but this vid is so different from his usual doings, that it is fun and lovely to watch
Should do one where they are put in one rank above to rlly reality check people 😂
definitely noticed alot of things where im like "thats a silver thing to do" but he has good aim and plays fairly well as far as team support. He should be in gold and from there i think he would have slightly better teams and would improve where he needs to alot quicker
This was another really fun video and set of games to be apart of. Thank you so much for the invite. Thank you for being an amazing creator Mr Eggwick and I look forward to seeing more amazing content
i pretty sure he doesnt deserve silver but also he doesnt deserve diamond too, maybe he deserves gold 2 - 3
For Dustin if you're reading the comments:
- you need to stop peeking with abilities in your hands
- you need to be more aware of your team's positions
- stop pulling your knife in areas you don't have control of
- stop using your abilities without taking advantage out of it, its not about using abilities its about using effective abilities and building an edge out of it
- stop crouching before shooting and use the scope less so you can strafe quicker between bursts
- stop mixing the W key with the A and D while peeking
- use the slicing the pie peeking technique in areas where its common for enemy to hold and track corners in areas of potential off angles, and get used to stutter movement
Bro, I'm plat 1 and those tips are really good, lots of mistakes I make are related to them, tks for the tips mate.
yeah I was gonna say plat 2 ( I say this despite having never played ranked, just noticed the aim was good but the game sense wasn't there)
As someone who played over watch for years, some people are genuinely stuck because of teammates
You should’ve made him play two games. One game full of silvers, and the second game in the lobby with diamonds
I like this idea of playing a silver in Diamond lobby. Keep doing this often :D I loved the convo between Reyna and Kayo haha
I feel that the sliver has great potential but when he holds and angle he is exposed to 2 or 3 angles so he is at a disadvantage
Getting some “support” from Jett already 🤣🤣
29:20 I CANT HAHAAHHAHAH THIS ,,hi daddy” IN THE LEFT CORNER BHAHAHAHAHAHH
This man is like one of those anomalies explained by the Architect in The Matrix movies. He actually has the chance to get the rank he thinks he deserves
He plays like a normal silver bronze player lol
@@kemp3746 He is like gold rank, his aim is better than the majority of silver players but on par with most gold players.
You should do a stream where you can only use guns that ur agent uses in trailers or offical valo art
Op characters like jett and kayo gonna be running with a ghost and bucky respectively XD
@@frostedfox8813 kayo trailer got him an odin tho lmao
@@ch00ms ah fk i forgot bout that 😂
Brim with the bulldog?
Damn, KJ frenzy is pretty nice ngl
i think some of it also is since he’s used to low lobbies he could have a different kind of unpredictability since he isn’t aware of everyone else’s skill
fade is like one of the best agents in the game. it gives team so much information if the fade can play. Also this lobby was like 5 real diamonds and the rest were boosted. Good video tho.
There's a difference between being able to play in Diamond and being the difference to climb from Silver to Diamond. Like it or not, if you want to climb you NEED to be the difference aka carry. And by carry I don't only mean kda wise, but communication, IGL abilities, strategy etc. By watching this, his mechanics is definitely there, but his awareness of the enemy position and game sense is just lacking overall. He definitely CAN reach Diamond, it's just a matter of how hard he tries to fix his shortcomings.
this is the best reply yet
I climbed in less than a month from gold 1 to diamond 3 and it’s not because of outstanding aim considering my rank or something my tip to everyone climbing is just give comms and communicate even if your team doesn’t say anything or is toxic and get at least one guy to queue with that you feel comfortable and that plays consistently not top fragging in particular.
Storytime, i used to say it was my teammates fault in silver so i desided to play with a imortal friend and we still lost. After that he told me,”play reyna like your going to get a ace every round. The next game i made 27 kill in 14 rounds, we won 13-1. So tbh with you, some teamates are trash but if you give positive vibes and hypes them they are also gonna play a lot better.
Edit: im now in gold 3 on my way to plat
The second he said “ on god” I knew it was “cap”
He has a w mental for support like if u can’t have the support be the support
I always find things like this interesting because guides will tell you to do things to improve but those things are irrelevant in low Elo, people don't play by logic its like ace or lose in low elo solo queue haha but , i imagine that he's spent a long time trying to improve through guides as he has some good habits and bad ones mixed with teammates who actually communicate and actually play their roles has a large impact here but you can still see the difference in the players but its the little things that really make the difference between silver and diamond, he can easily hold his own and that's really impressive!
Mad true with the fact that low elo players are harder to predict. I watch a lot of high elo players and I would be playing fps at high level and I’m just so use to smart plays not random ones. So going through the low ranks were tough
"my dog p***** on my chair brb" bruh mans said that without hesitation.
it’s funny watching dia from different regions lol
being silver myself i'm noticing a few things. dstn's really bad at checking corners and his flashes are often kinda useless. i think the big thing that keeps people in silver is the fact that we all get pretty good at one or two aspects of the game but ultimately can't bring our other skills up to match them. for example, i have pretty good aim and use guardian only but a lot of the time i don't check corners, don't check the map, or sometimes just make plain bad decisions.
True...honestly by the time people reach Gold/Plat - they have the knowledge about what they need to do...we just lack the ego/patience/practice to do everything right consistently. The only time when you're making huge game changing discoveries on the way you approach the game...is back in Iron-Bronze. Silver~Plat knows how to do correct things but can't do it consistently at all yet and still may be learning the last little bit of mechanics left in the game....and then Radiant is you actually do everything perfect consistently and pushing the mechanics to the extreme...
Honestly...I find being in high gold to be the most fun. Below Silver...people are clueless...and above Plat 2...there's too many people who used to be diamonds/immortals that fell off with the Jett changes and now are trolling every game while being the most toxic people...I'm more of a casual weekend player so Gold is perfect for me. Its just at the point where you need to communicate/play with decent mechanics...but you don't have to take warming up/learning the game seriously...
I was hardstuck silver, now diamond and I can say theres still alot to learn if youre stuck in silver. Eggwick did say he did better than usual and I assume this was the comms and maybe a bit of mid-game coaching
One potential problem I saw (I’m iron 3 so I’m probably wrong) he swaps between his gun and knife too much during the middle of the round. Very impressive performance and gunplay by dstn defiantly above silver in my opinion
I am iron 3 aswell. It's probably because he wants to get to certain places quicker. Knife gives you more speed.
I used to be hardstuck bronze, now I'm a few games away from diamond. And I gotta say, there really is not much of a difference between playing with bronze players versus diamond players.
Yes, you can trust your teammates a lot more, and you will see a lot more teamwork unfold. But in most cases it's not on-purpose. Utility combos and such start to happen naturally, so it's still not exactly "coordinated" or "communicated" teamwork like you would see in radiant.
Nonetheless, I feel like a lot of "average" players could handle themselves in diamond, because being in a higher rank does not necessarily mean everyone's aim is that much better from bronze. If you understand the BASICS of your agent fully, and you perform ALL the duties of your agent's role, then a person could definitely handle themselves in diamond lobbies, and definitely pull that 20% that they are responsible for as 1 person out of 5 on the team.
All I did was do a bunch of research, compile it into summarised notes, then visited deathmatch before & after my comp games, and it helped me rank up a LOT. If that's all it took then I'm sure diamond is not 'that' high of a rank (as I've been an average player all my life, until I dedicated myself a bit more to research).
Diamond games are definitely higher-level, but they are rarely high-level. So far I've only played 2 or 3 insanely high-level diamond games (in which I bottom fragged ofc).
BTW I'm a Sova/Brimstone main. Brim 57% wins and Sova 52% (out of ~100 games for each).
I think it's really important to find the right agent for you, because I would have never reached this high without experimenting for many hours in spike rush to see which agent I enjoy playing (and do best with) the most.
As a wood player, i can confirm that we are just seeking revenge everytime on the same spot
If he finds an LFG team to play with, he can definitely reach diamond. If it’s actually bad teammates, he just needs to find good teammates.
at 26:50 i was like its gonna be the 9-3 curse and when the game ends i was like i knew it xDD
a lot of people just dont have the time to play enough matches to rank that high, this match makes sense
love this, finally content that does not screw up ranked games for people
Honestly, the skill of every player is just so hard to determine by just ranks... Sometimes, getting hardstuck isn't necessarily your fault for not being better. This vid took me back to when I added someone a few months ago after I played with him on a Spike Rush match... We were both at bronze then... Now I'm Silver 2 and he's Immortal 1. Player skill growth is just astounding sometimes
What are you talking about, with a little game sense and crosshair placement your getting to gold easily. I'm fairly new to the game, and after the first 5 comp i immediately got silver 1, spent a few days around s1 b3 and then in one sitting i got to g2 this game is kinda easy, especially with chamber/yoru/breach there op af
@OniichanAwaa :33 true, and yet i think my statement still stands this game is pretty easy
@@learningsurvival9216 while the *mechaincs* of game are indeed easy, you have to remember that that statement holds true for other players as well. If the game is easy for everyone, then it is no longer easy, which is why it's easy to climb out of iron and bronze, but harder silver and up. Around mid silver - high gold, the mechanics become easy for everyone, leading to you either having to have extreme talent, reaction time, and mechanics like TenZ and carry yourself to higher ranks, getting lucky with good teammates, or having gamesense 2-3 ranks above your own.
@@wouldntglidingbefaster1704 that's exactly what i said "you get to gold easily" yes behind that you just need to be good at fps, good reactions aim crosshair placement and such. I feel like gold is average at best like you don't need to be good at all, also i always solo queue i don't have friends that play valorant.
@@learningsurvival9216 if you are only gold you shouldn’t be saying the games easy gold is where a majority of players are, the game gets a lot harder when you get to imm ascendant
i like this way better. private match. they will then take it like a scrim and try even harder. its more like a ASC+ lobby at that point. great vid
Sometimes, i play well and my teams sucks and I lose. I know when I'm the best person on my team, I know we are in trouble. Lol